Holy crap, look at this SPECTACULAR CATASTROPHIC AR-15 FAILURE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8MCiixMZGY
AKM did fine. AR-15 BTFO yet again!
>>30276751
good job, this has happened to the ar15 for almost 50 years now. only SOCOM has standards high enough requiring rifles to fire underwater or recently submerged.
wow... the whole fucking thing seized.
>>30276751
well, that Sig MCX did mighty well in Orlando, and it was submerged in semen.
ahhaah... look at these parts that fell out of it.
>>30276751
Not a problem in CA. Their mags can't detach.
>>30276751
it's a good thing the water wasnt a little muddy
:^)
In the video, RR later talks about special .223 underwater ammo that got classified. WTF???
>>30276751
well, lets see:
no water in the desert, so no hajis under the water.
ivan only knows water when its frozen, so no...
just wait for whoever is under there and pop him when he comes up. shooting rifles underwater is just as bad as the cooking bacon on the barrel stunt.
>>30276751
Why exactly would anyone need to fire a normal gun underwater anyway? There's a reason several nations have developed dedicated underwater weapons. Standard bullets are next to useless in water.
I know this is a troll thread, but I don't care.
>>30276923
>Why exactly would anyone need to fire a normal gun underwater anyway?
Because you can.
>>30276923
>this much ARfag damage control
>>30277612
When I'll want a rifle to shoot underwater with, I'll go with the AK.
But since I'm fine with just a rifle that won't shit the bed out of water whenever any mud or dirt is involved, I'll take the AR. :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=synlZgnTnXg
Jesus, all the effects and music on this video are cancer. 20 seconds of footage spaced over 5 minutes.
>>30276794
KEK
>>30276751
Why would I be shooting underwater?
>>30277800
>Why would anyone NEED a assault rifle?
>>30276923
Dolphin uprising.
>>30277800
believe it or not, there is lots of water in some places. We call it "outside".
>>30276794
Sig MCX isn't an AR-15.
>>30277800
To prove that it can work in adverse environments?
Related question:
>Why would I be shooting in sandy environments?
>>30277972
>>30277990
I mean, there's a difference between
>let's see if rifle is able to function wet
And
>let's see if rifle is able to function underwater
I hate AR's and M-16s from having to qualify with this POS for 5 years in the Marines, but this video is retarded. Who the fuck fires a rifle underwater? We all know that the upper/lower fit on the AR-15/M-16 platform is garbage. I can remember one issued rifle's fit being so bad that I could hold the upper's handle and shake the thing so bad that the rattle was very much audible.
However, again the point of this video is clearly clickbait at best.
>>30277990
Because people live in the desert, last I checked very few people live in water. Even then if you are submerged to the point where you can only fire your weapon underwater, you've got bigger problems
>>30278102
>We all know that the upper/lower fit on the AR-15/M-16 platform is garbage.
We also all know it doesn't affect the function at all, and the most damage it's ever done was triggering autistic people who only take their rifles out of the safe to take pics of them.
>>30278024
not in reliability testing. You test in over-the-top situations to see if they'[ll function. If they do, they'll handle more realistic situations.
>>30277673
Oh look, another "torture" test done by a basement dwelling neckbeard just like you, who has no idea how to use a firearm.
>>30276751
>shooting a water underwater
ayy lmao
>>30278199
>this much AKfag damage control
"The AK won't jam no matter what you do to it, lol!"
*pathetic sounds of AK jamming*
"HURRR YOU USED THE AK WRONG YOU FUCKING BASEMENT DWELLING FAGGOT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
>>30276751
>what do you know! Some hung that cannot be compressed breaks a gun when the barrel is filled with it
Brah
>>30278199
>literally DELETE THIS when his precious ak fails in the dirt
>>30278229
>other rifle functions fine
>>30278229
It's not about the barrel, this is the fault of the AR gas tube being PARTIALLY filled with water.
If you let the air drain and the water fills it completely, it will work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MA1IFKwdAQ
Again, if you raise it out of the water and take the extra one second to let water drain completely out of the tube, you'll be fine.
tl;dr: OP is a homo man
>>30278225
>>30278251
>ARfags getting triggered
I never even mentioned the AK but you niggers are going apeshit over it. Tell me where on the dolly Ivan touched you
>>30278293
It doesn't matter what gun you were talking about, because the AR won.
Checkmate, atheist.
ARfags on suicide watch
>>30278309
>Lamborghini vs f150 in a drag race
>Ahahahahahahahahahaha truckfags BTFO
>n-no I'm not retarded
>AK fags get BTFO in sand testing
>BTFO in mud testing
>BTFO in accuracy
>BTFO in general reliability
>but at least an AK can shoot in an environment where bullets are literally fucking useless!
>what is a piston AR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQGTts7xyr8
>AK fags try to defend their pig rifles this hard
>absolutely BTFO again
>>30278346
dumb slavaboo
>>30278350
This.
I have a Daniel Defense DDM4V7 with a Geiselle trigger and a spare Sig 516 upper should for some fucking reason I ever need to fire after submersion.
Both uppers have identical ACOGs
>>30278346
>>Lamborghini vs f150 in a drag race
>>Ahahahahahahahahahaha truckfags BTFO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_c1H60zlW0
AK fags making excuses again.
>>30276751
HOLY SHIT!!
AR FAGS MUST BE FUMING!
>>30276794
>>30278386
i was talking stock vehicles, but nice try dumbass. you'll get it right eventually
>>30278435
I got it right when I didn't buy an AK like a goat fucking retard.
I have an AR and an AK so I am immune from all failure
>>30278500
Your failure was buying an AK
>>30278517
>things poorfags say
>>30276751
>shilling his shitty channel on /k/
lol
>works underwater
>can actually hit and kill your target with it
AK fags btfo
New meme coming in hot
>>30276783
Muh ak can tho
>>30276751
the editing in this video gave me cancer
>>30278199
But, people live in sand. No one lives at the bottom of a filled swimming pool.
>>30278809
i didnt know ARfags are sandniggers
who woulda thunk
>>30276751
>the only environment where the AK will work better than the AR is the one where there is no point in using firearms to begin with
>ARFAGS BTFO xDDDD
It's getting a little sad at this point.
>>30278827
You may have a reason to kill people who live in sand.
You will never kill even one human living at the bottom of a full swimming pool, because if someone is down there, they are already dead.
>>30278873
>There's no water innawoods or other combat scenarios.
Maybe you're trotting through a river or lake or something where your firearm is submerged, maybe even HEAVY rain? Idk, it's nice to know that a gun won't malfunction even if the unthinkable happens.
>>30278944
>your firearm is submerged
Then you drain it, shooting from underwater it a bust.
>maybe even HEAVY rain
no
In both scenarios I will take the gun that survives sand/mud testing better because it wont die from an interaction with wet ground or rocks.
So the AR
>>30278944
>Maybe you're trotting through a river or lake or something where your firearm is submerged, maybe even HEAVY rain?
Hey, let's ask the people who have a realistic chance of actually having to fight around water!
...
Oh wait. Shit.
>>30278637
Not finished
Needs Eugene Stoner in the photo
>>30279053
>>30279134
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RWrHlx0TV_I
>>30278672
Yea it was unbearable to watch
>>30277800
Fishing.
>>30278994
The ak will not die with sand or mud same as the ar's aversion to water to fix a muddy, sandy ak you just cycle it a few times or use it as a bolt action.
>>30278159
That's retarded. That's like driving your car into a lake and going "DUrr i sucks!!" because it won't start when it's submerged in water. It's not designed to be in water, but it can handle being rained on.
>>30278159
right. I guess the testing called for guns to function in hot molten metal, because if it functions in that, it'll function in the desert, right?
>>30282607
>>30282613
So how about that unrealistic ak test instead of something that could happen like dropping it on the mud it had mud shoveled into it.
>>30282642
>encountering people on muddy terrain
>encountering people underwater
I guess? We gotta somehow deal with those mer-men.
>>30282648
>encountering people under the mud
>encountering people on the other side of a river you just swam across.
I guess? We gotta somehow deal with those molemen.
>>30282670
but they didn't shot those guns completely submerged in mud.
If you wanted to replicate that mud test with water, you shovel or dump bucket of water over the gun, then you pick it up and shoot it.
Wait, you say, they're different you say? Of fucking course, so why are you comparing them?
>>30278290
I remember this video!
It works.
>>30279042
>muzzles aren't taped
I hope they at least crack the chamber open a hair and let it drain a little
>>30282689
Fuck you
>>30282642
I don't think you are familiar with river mud...
>>30276923
>Why exactly would anyone need to fire a normal gun underwater anyway?
It's not called the Bill of Needs.
The AR is a self fouling POS, yes we know OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CXu0nh-iD4&spfreload=10
>>30278290
Its literally due to the differences in gas systems.
AK's don't funnel gas into the action but AR's do. The gas has to compete with water for space causing massive pressures that would not normally exist.
>>30282642
Uh I think all these reliability tests are retarded. Any gun will fail if you shove evough crap into it that stops it from functioning.
no wonder you guys keep having those boat accidents
Ultimate retarded reliability test, make a gun that's fully functional even when completely covered in concrete.
>>30282689
am I supposed to masturbate to this?
>>30282689
thats a pretty high test sandwich. can feel my blood thickening just watching it.
>>30282751
Yes
>>30276751
You know the Soviets specifically made an all new rifle for shooting under water, right? The AK, like any other conventional firearm, does poorly under water.
>>30278293
Well you're a huge faggot, which presumes you're OP sperging over MUH AKM
>>30282642
>something that can actually happen
Oh yeah, I curse every time I have to commute to the underwater James Bond style base where I work each day, as I'm attacked by mooks with spearguns and knives, that my AR doesn't work better when fully submerged under water.
Every day I ask myself, why didn't I buy an AK to fend off these goons? If just I had an AK instead of an AR, it would solve my life's problems, except the part where that faggot 00 Agent has eaten the last donuts by the time I get there, because he has that underwater car/craft that's faster and equipped to deal with these things, I'd fucking key it if it wasn't for the fact that it'd probably zap me with some defensive measures.
>>30277800
Expanding on this: bullets in water lose their KE extremely rapidly.
A .50 BMG loses lethal penetration after 3 feet of water, a .223 will lose it in even less.
Guns designed for underwater use look more like harpoon guns/pistols than anything else for good reason
>>30276751
More of a DI vs piston issue.
>>30276751
Fuck! How am I gonna do a drive-by on Aquaman now?
>>30276751
well shit, what am i going to do next time i'm OCing while swimming and a terrorist tries to shoot me while i'm under water
>>30278617
>manual loading gun beat self loading gun
sure
>>30279734
this, they even developed underwater 9mm
>>30282730
>>30276794
>>30276751
>oh shit now i cant kill underwater terrorists
>>30282688
You can blow up a ar if it was recently filled with water same how a ak killed with mud will jam.
>>30284324
You don't have rivers near you?
>>30276923
You don't
It's AK owners desperate for a "win"
There's literally no reason to shoot underwater because the water eats all the energy anyway
>>30278199
That's ironic since you guys are talking about guns shooting underwater
>>30286016
What about crossing rivers and your rifle explodes if you try to shoot it without clearing it now?
>>30286030
AR's still explode if the gas tube has water in it even if not submerged.
>>30287080
The test we saw is shooting it underwater you numbskull
You're not going to shoot your gun underwater
>>30276751
bought out and classified the stuff huh?
>>30287127
So you haven't seen the H&K test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGwkHktkTxU
>>30287283
So the answer is drain your gun or get a piston gun if you are going to be emerging from water and need to shoot and don't have time for draining
shooting underwater is never going to happen
DI AR > piston AR(unless you live in a pool) >AK
>>30287342
>piston AR > AK
>what is carrier tilt
>>30287369
a meme from 2008 that would not invalidate my statement anyways?
>>30287342
So the answer is to scoop most of the mud out same as dealing with watery ars.
shooting under the mud is never going to happen.
>>30287401
>carrier tilt is a meme
>when the AR BCG is fundamentally not designed for pistons, and in effect shortens it's own lifespan
back2reddit noguns :^)
>>30287408
>So the answer is to scoop most of the mud out same as dealing with watery ars.
>tilt ar15 forward for 1 second
>water exits gas tube
>open AK dust cover
>remove recoil spring
>remove bolt carrier
>remove/wash out debris
>reassemble
>same thing
>shooting under the mud is never going to happen.
No but you get plenty in it crawling in mud.
Also dirt and sand.
But the AR15 keeps those things out of it's action because it does not have a gaping hole in it's side.
>>30287440
>open dust cover
>use two fingers to remove most mud
>fire with cover off
VS.
>split AR
>remove bolt
>shake
>use pipe cleaners to get all water out
>reassemble
I can also exaggerate how hard it is to clean one while using the fast way to clean the other.
>>30287489
But that's wrong, you don't need to clean it, you literally have to lean it forwards so the Newtonian fluid will fall out due to gravity.
>hurr you just need to pop the dust cover and use two fingers
You are going to pull mud, rocks, sticks and god knows what out of your trigger pack and rails with two fingers and the BCG installed?
>>30287518
No clear enough of it out to fire and use recoil and the current lack of a dust cover to blow the rest out.
>>30287283
Lol the end of that video says "Leading trough technology"
I guess they make farm equipment now too
>>30287547
>If I take the dust cover off my BCG will suddenly have the capability to fling debris into the air instead of getting caught on them in the rails
>Akfags actually believe this
Do you also believe allah will guide your bullets?
>>30276794
>>30287566
A AK can also be used as a bolt action until it works it out even with the dust cover on in most cases of filled with sand/mud.
Does colt clean your rifle for you so you dont need a cleaning kit?
>>30287641
AR15s are sealed systems that keep external debris out.
I can shoot my AR until it locks up from carbon buildup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrPjlcJ3rtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAneTFiz5WU
/watch?v=dHwoZ6SS_pY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYfGq1yk66Q
the AR15 keeps shit out of it, and will function with minor shit in it that should not get in anyways.
The AK gets plenty of shit in it and fails.
>b-but I can shoot an AK underwater and it won't explode!
Congratulations on the ability to fight fish 2 feet away from you underwater
>>30287691
What are you going on about a AR15 will still explode after being taken out of the water.
An ak will kick debris out if you remove the dust cover.
This is retarded you you cant handle that your rifle is a poor choice anywhere with rivers or lakes and that the ak has been proven to do just fine in sandy/dusty/muddy environments please tell me about the Vietnamese complaining about ak's or the Taliban/isis.
>>30287780
>a AR15 will still explode after being taken out of the water.
Unless you let it drain for literally one second
>An ak will kick debris out if you remove the dust cover.
>an ak will kick mud and garbage up into the air instead of straight backwards if anywhere since it's non functioning due to being packed with shit
>your rifle is a poor choice anywhere with rivers or lakes
My rifle can actually survive encounters with water, drain and continue to be shot.
AKs are potmetal rustbuckets that can't handle laying on a beach without being stripped and hosed down.
>please tell me about the Vietnamese complaining about ak's or the Taliban/isis.
>please tell me about dead third worlders complaining about their free rifles that got them killed
>>30276751
>swimming with any gun
niggnogg why risk getting rust
>>30288424
>aluminum receiver
>qpq barrel
>coated trigger and pins
>rust
>>30278350
lol no kid
>>30288424
>not swimming with your rifu
they just want to have fun
>>30276794
screenshot?
>>30285951
I do but it's full of mercury from the sawmill's bullshit back in the day so it's not like I'll be running into frogmen on my commute, that river is DEAD, and I'm not traversing that shit.
>>30287342
>DI AR > piston AR(unless you live in a pool) >AK
>piston AR
You were the kid on the playground that did that 'everything a proof shield' bullshit. You saying your gun can do what another gun does if you mutilate it hard enough is not a victory for you.
>>30288799
>You saying your gun can do what another gun does
Shoot in an environment that bullets do not work
>is not a victory for you.
the AR winning everything but shoot where bullets don't work is the victory, shoving in your face that some ARs can do what this retard thread is about is just icing on the cake.
>>30276794
>>30277972
Do you live under the sea? Are you a mermaid?
>luigi
>>30276751
simple
we wait for the ivan to come out of the water
