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Post god-tier CAS aircraft.
>>30263561
I want one so bad
>>30263598
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_EMB_314_Super_Tucano
>9 to 14mi USD.
Well, it's possible.
>>30263561
>>30263598
>>30263618
cheaper to buy a P51 or any other warbird
>>30263704
I'd rather have a turboprop than a piston desu
>>30263704
Mostly, it's the avionics that adds to the huge jump in numbers.
A bare PC-7 or MFI-15 (with nothing but a radio and navigational radar) would cost less than 1 million dollar a pop
also
>P-51
>using 1940s dollar
>not factoring in ~70 years of inflation
>>30263754
P51 are selling for around 1M right now
if >>30263598 want to buy a plane he would be better of buying a P51 with modern avionic ( all of the one flying today are btw ) rather than spending 9 to 14 on something like the tucano
>>30263754
Working condition P-51s are still a lot cheaper than 9 - 14 million USD
>>30263782
All flying P-51s has modern avionics.
False, most of them only has the minimum requied by FAA while the rest is original.
>>30263782
Hence my other point.
I don't suppose people know that Super Tucano, despite being a turboprop aircraft, is actually assigned as medium trainer/light attack by its operators.
dis
>>30263561
Accept no substitutes.
>>30263933
I think that kind of defeats the "Close" in CAS
Why have i yet to see the BRRRRRRRRRT? I am of disappoint /k/
>>30263950
They'll never see it coming.
>>30263956
Because it isn't, and never was, "god-tier".
>no F-35 so far
You guys make me proud.
Probably only god-tier in looks but that works for me.
This was infact a real project.
>>30264101
AMX it's more a bomber. Idk if can be used for CAS.
Also reminds me of the Frogfoot for some reason.
>>30263956
Didn't you hear? A-10s got too popular so now all the kool kids don't like it.
>>30263967
Oh go kill yourself
best plane coming through
>>30264166
Oh man cool, how many operational hours did it fly this year?
>>30264161
I'm sorry I insulted your planfu, autismo.
>>30263561
Brazilian turd.
>>30264188
want to give me a good reason for it not being on here?
>>30264118
The AMX spawned from the cancelled B3LA-project and that was supposed to be a true CAS/light attack aircraft.
What makes you define it as a bomber?
>>30264241
Yeah my bad.
>Best CAS
>Anything else than pic related
>>30264305
proof that if you put big enough engines on a brick it will fly.
The poster child of the triumph of thrust over aerodynamics
So Embraer took over the cheapo CAS market but the A-10 is still the gold standard but they don't manufacture them anymore
Will someone step up and do a middle ground version of the Super Tucano and A-10C for countries who want a dedicated CAS platform, can't get their hands on A-10s or cunts who don't want the Frogfoot?
>>30264361
The F-4 got called that because it was the first fighter used by the US that was too heavy to glide if the engines gave out. Which is the norm for fighter jets nowadays. The F-4 was ahead of its time.
Im partial to CAS aircraft. The ALCA, Thunderbolt II, and Bronco are some of my facorite planes out there.
>>30264394
I'm giving you shit, F-4s are rad, they're just fun to make fun of sometimes
>>30264419
>F-35
>anime
Take your fucking trash taste back to
>>>/a/
>>30264450
>hownewareyou.jpg
>>30263899
>Underbelly turret
Hunter Killer?
>>30264450
FHS isn't Anime. It is made in Korea, not Japan.
>>30263561
It's breddy gud, but you can shoot it down by glaring at it.
>>30264461
Only operational planes are allowed in this thread
>>30264394
>Too heavy to glide
6:1 glide ratio..
>>30264467
That's what Japan said, but look who won that war.
>>30264477
>Only operational planes are allowed in this thread
When shit just has to die.
>>30264179
>implying that matters
>>30264489
America?
>>30264489
kek
>>30264500
>$1T superduperplane IOC pushed back yet again
>GUIZE IT TOTALLY WORKS
>>30263561
Single seater civvie version when.
Seriously, the only thing wrong with this otherwise beauty is that shitty giant canopy that makes it look like the hunchback from notre-damme
>>30264554
They already make a single-seat version of the A-29, known as the A-29A. The two-seat version is called the A-29B.
I share your fantasy though. It's just a nice looking plane.
>>30264101
Seriously, this shit would be my presidential airplane all day err day. Fuck the AF1,
>>30263561
>>30264576
>A-29A
Yeah, but that's what I mean, it still has the same canopy. It's just too massive
>>30263950
you do realize it means close to the ground troops and not close to the ground?
>>30264563
>>30264625
I feel like there should be a distinction between CAS that is performed from a distance and CAS that is actually performed up close.
In order for it to qualify as CAS, the aircraft has to come within visual range of the ground. Otherwise, it is called "armed overwatch."
Having the aircraft get up close is more intimidating for the enemy and it gives a morale boost for ground troops because they see the aircraft acting on their behalf.
>>30264605
the fuck outta here with ya weak shit
>no grach
I forgot the vatniks got banned, so I guess I'll have to do it for them
>>30264605
>still trying to work the bugs out of the ejection seats
stupid westerners cannot compete!
>毛泽东将生活在
>not posting best kraut-destroyer
>>30264691
No one is down talking the Apache. It is the best. But the Supercobra does good for what it is. In addition it preforms for what the limited budget the Marines have since over 3/4 of the parts are interchangeable with their Hueys
>>30264467
It has counter-measures against missiles. But a Colombia Super Tucano got taken down a few years back when patrolling.
>>30264554
But a T-27 then.
>>30264160
>parkplatz
>RAF harriers taking off from my autobahn
what did i miss here
>>30263899
This. The OV-10 Bronco can do everything from CAS, to forward air control to 4 man paradrop insertions and cargo delivery. It can carry MGS, autocannons, rockets, missiles, mg pods you name it.
Incredible versatility. Cool story, In Vietnam their crews were able to smell the cooking fires of the VC and direct fires accordingly.
>>30264668
How about CAS vs SOCAS (Stand Off CAS)?
>>30264477
Oh sorry.
>>30263561
Oink Oink
>>30264526
When was the IOC pushed back? I mean shit, the B variant reached IOC last year.
>>30265090
>>30265090
what the hell is that? Is that a tail gunner?
>>30263561
All hail the Jap Zero
>>30265154
It was Ilyushin's CAS design that competed with the Su-25 back in the day, Russia decided to go with the latter however. There's a couple prototypes but that was all they built
>>30265179
>zero
>CAS
lel
>>30265191
Develop your hypothesis
>>30265128
http://www.airforcemag.com/DRArchive/Pages/2016/April%202016/April%2027%202016/F-35-OTE-Slipping-Away.aspx
My bad, OT&E
>>30264161
>>30265103
The only real answer for this thread.
>>30265221
>A FUCKING RAMP
>>30265206
If you'd like to present a time that the zero conducted CAS missions, be my guest
Whether you like it or not.
>>30265207
OT&E being off schedule doesn't make the F-35B any less in service.
Not like it even matters that it's late.
>>30265255
wow look at all those hardpoints
>>30265255
Why do you hate 1N1s?
>>30265255
https://youtu.be/_w7BuwZ-u0s
>>30265269
Because they are so afraid that they could be wrong they end up making the most conservative calls thus preventing timely and effective CAS is some situations.
Gun = cylindrical object
PKM = 1 meter cylindrical object
Murder hole = wall maintenance
>>30265268
Having a vehicle flying for up to 35 hours kind of makes up for it """"only"""" carring 6 PGMs.
>>30265268
MQ-9 has seven, and no aircraft will max out its hardpoints in real world use anyways. In most situations require a good balance between loiter time and ordinance. 14+ Hours with 4x hellfires and a gbu or two is a significant for ground forces on operations that take hours.
>>30265305
So as someone about to pursue that AFSC, what could I do to not screw up and make ya'lls life harder.
>>30265325
Flying for 35 hours doesn't make for good CAS when you're empty :^)
>>30265367
For COIN, its basically perfect. I don't know of an engagement that required more than that. Low(er) cost allows you to field more, too.
Remember that an aircraft not on station is just as useless.
>>30265367
Flying with 15,000 lbs of bombs doesn't make for good CAS when you have to check off for the tanker every 20 minutes.
>>30265337
You can't, your leadership will handcuff you guy. Too much red tape in that career field.
>>30265410
Better to run to Operational Intel if I simply want to be in Intel in some form or fashion?
>>30265457
No, go 1N1 for better post AF careers
>>30265479
Many thanks.
>>30265479
Any other wisdom to bestow?
>>30265530
Don't suck, and never trust a fart.
>>30264305
>x15 M134s
>1500 rounds per second
Jesus fuck
>>30265711
Wonder how many XM-214 gunpods they could have put under there...
>>30265896
Assuming 25 or so, times 166 rounds per second per gun, is 4,150 rounds per second total
4,150 x 11.8 grams per cartridge is 48,970 grams or almost 50 kilograms of ammunition being fired per second
>>30263618
I thought they said they go as low as 500,000
MFI-9 from Baifra, check out miniCOIN from the Nigerian civil war, neat stuff MFI-9 jury rigged into ground attack craft.
Sexy, economic (for a jet) YAK 130
>>30266416
looks like a qt to me
>>30264668
WWII called. They want their Stukas back. If they can see it, they can fire manpads.
>>30263704
>>30266457
>>30264305
When I'm riding 'round the world
And I'm doing this and I'm signing that
And I'm trying to meet some girl
Who tells me, "Baby, better come back maybe next week"
Can't you see I'm on a losin' streak
I can't get no
>>30266872
Pretty sure OP asked for god-tier.
There is only 1 god-tier CAS platform
>>30267106
>May it be blessed with eternal engine stalls and overhauls so it never gets off the ground
>>30268223
They got some nice livingspace tho
>>30264047
>>30263704
Piston engines get exponentially more complex above 300-400 hp.
Turbines are simpler.
inb4 somebody links his own piston engine saying it's easy to work
That doesn't make it simpler, it's like saying guns with milled steel are simpler than stamped because you can do milling at home with cheaper tools and a stamping machine is expensive as fuck
Turbines have much fewer moving parts and barely vibrate at all.
>>30267416
Indeed, but not that hunk of trash.
Highest body count in the air force here.
>>30264202
Designed and manufactured by Romanians and Serbians.
No love for the skyraider?
>>30270726
Carries more bombs than its own airframe weight? Yes I approve!
>>30265231
Well spotted! Congratulations! Go to the head of the class but for homework read up on why some nations have them.
>>30263561
Happy plane could have been happily bombing arabs now
>>30264161
obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCVmPffxDkU&index=1&list=LLL9I3rA6WFHRUOz5J-sI3qw
>>30264668
No that's not how any of this works.
>>30270726
My grandfather flew in one of those. I'm proud of you for mentioning it anon.
>>30264700
Can somebody fill me in on why russians got banned? I heard that Russia was banning hentai but did they also ban 4chan? Or is new Moot having problems with Russians just like the OG Moot had with Australians?
>>30263561
>>30263618
>>30263754
>>30263782
>>30263791
>>30263809
I wonder how much would it cost to buy one, rebuild it from scratch (new fuselage, new engines, avionics etc.) Probably around 20 Millions i'm afraid, that is if there would be any on sale. I have a better chance building one from scratch (Could I?) Like if i'd built an f14 from scratch, new engines, new avonics, swept wings but did not arm it. Would it count as a simple Cesna and i could fly it with PPL or the fact that it would resemble military plane would send ATF to my door?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzQ3eBerHfM
>>30264305
there must be a video of this
>>30271026
A sortie would have been an amazing achievement for the X-32 considering how shitty it was
>>30271943
>Lockmart shill shits up the thread
No surprises there
![Ju87-B1-StG1-(A5+DH)-Over-Poland-1939-90[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TA0XmYd.jpg "Ju87-B1-StG1-(A5+DH)-Over-Poland-1939-90[1].jpg")
Literal master race coming in
>>30271595
>Can somebody fill me in on why russians got banned?
Rouble threads showed up on /pol/ which were basically threads that were full of Russians talking about how fucked their country was after Russia started going after people who posted anti-government things on 2ch. Cue DDOS and hack attempts, all from Russia directed at 4chan. Easiest way to stop that was just ban the country.
![1778340[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/s18fGtf.jpg "1778340[1].jpg")
>>30271026
>Plane that could barely fly and wasn't even the finished prototype design
>In service sooner than the one that could actually fly and meet all performance requirements at time of testing
>>30272172
You Boeingshills are hilariously delusional.
>>30272172
No, look up the X-32. If you think it wouldn't have had even more issues than the F-35, you're crazy. The X-35 didn't have serious structural deficiencies and didn't require a complete redesign of the intake and wings between prototypes. Add onto that all the software issues that the 35 has and the 32 would've been atrocious.
![Boeing_JSF_X-32_on_tarmac[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pNUNzT7.jpg "Boeing_JSF_X-32_on_tarmac[1].jpg")
>>30272225
And, again, the design as submitted was so fundamentally flawed that Boeing was basically going to try to slip a complete redesign through if Lockheed Martin had somehow managed to fuck up worse than Boeing did and forget everything they learned from the F-22.
>>30272255
On the plus side, the redesigned intake made the aircraft look like a spooky ghoast from the front
>>30264216
Based.
>>30263561
Cool AF
>>30266416
Beautiful
>double engine
why?
>>30264232
>More expensive than a Tucano
>only advantage over Tucano is its meme gun and a titanium bathtub which is effectively useless against any decent SAM system
>Pleb tier 70s/80s avionics
>single seater
It's effectively a more expensive tucano. Both can really only be used once air superiority has been achieved and any air defence systems have been wiped out yet the A-10 is far more expensive to maintain. Even when it was new it was expected to suffer 50% losses in the first week of a war against the Warsaw pact. It's as much of a meme as Donald Trump and Dudeweed - but seemingly memes have rather too much power these days.
>>30264305
>moar_dakka.jpg
>>>/tg/
>>30265896
>>30272787
What the fuck is this, primitive VTOL?
>>30272800
It's proof that you can count Glorious Mother Russia to do thinks you'd only do while drnk.
>A-29
Mah nigga.
>>30272800
It's a rack of PPsh SMGs hung in a bomb bay so it can strafe enemy lines.
>>30272809
>drnk
*drunk
I am
>>30270726
This
AD-2 is best CAS
>>30263618
here's the "civilian" CAS plane the former Blackwater CEO tried to build a fleet of so he could sell a "rent-a-CAS" private military airforce to the highest bidder.
Full story on the production of the aircraft - bulk of the planes were built in austria (which as strict arms control limitations) with the idea to then shuffle the fleet across the border into bulgaria to have it fully militarised and able to fire everything from air to ground laser guided missiles to wing mounted brrrts using an advanced sensor pod you can see in the picture extended from its boom so it can see around the forward propeller:
https://theintercept.com/2016/04/11/blackwater-founder-erik-prince-drive-to-build-private-air-force/
>>30272428
>perfect for Sandy missions with CSAR
>Gun more economical than just bombs/missiles
>Entire aircraft design built around survivability including dual externally mounted engines, titanium bathtub, dual tails, armor, self-sealing protected fuel tanks in fuselage, etc.
>Avionics upgraded in 2008 for A-10Cs
>Most requested by ground forces
>psychological factor
>"Meme gun" actually incredibly effective
>Extremely easily maintained due to simple design and tons of access panels
>flew 32% of combat sorties in OIF and OEF
>single seat...just like every other US fighter aside from F-15Es and 2 seater vipers
>>30272428
Also no strike package is going to go into a contested airspace without proper fighter cover and wild weasels to take out air defenses. Any aircraft carrying a heavy payload is going to have it's speed and maneuverability sacked anyway so F-15s and F-22s are put in to take care of any fighter defenses.
>>30273107
There's the T-27 Tucano which is basically the predecessor of the A-29 Super Tucano.
As far as i know you can actually buy for civilian use. No idea abot the A-29.
always loved the idea of using really small planes, like pic, and strapping some weapons on them. ranging all the way from a surplus M60 or some advanced stuff like missiles or shit like that.
imagine a massive bombing raid like the ones over dresden, but only with cessnas
>>30272428
>the tucano and the warthog are pretty much the same thing
sure, i suppose any fixed wing aircraft are all about the same. Just ask any pilot and they'll say the tuscano and the warthog are about the same. and that silly titanium bathtub, heck just do away with it, it's useless!
Maybe if memes have so much power they could simple use a meme with a "meme gun" in place of the warthog? it's pretty much the same thing. It just costs less.
great analysis.
>>30274138
False equivalency for $100, Alex.
"Titanium bathtubs" won't save the aircraft from MANPADs or SAMs, which are the vast vast majority of CAS strikes outside of COIN.
In terms of COIN, you get better bang for your buck from a drone or very low cost airframe like a Tucano.
>>30264563
>>30264750
Mah Niggas
>>30270726
Didn't Skyraider pilots score some kills against MiG-17s who tried to turn with them?
>>30272184
The Stuka was effective early on, but it was slow and had shit armor so it was an easy target for more modern aircraft
>>30271490
Air Force or Navy?
>>30274738
On at least two occasions the A-1H variant got into dogfights with MiG-17s. The first one was two skyraiders versus one MiG-17 that was coming straight at them which they both gunned down with the 4 20mm cannons. The second was 4 skyraiders vs 4 MiG-17s. The skyraiders shot down at least 2 and heavily damaged one
>>30274738
>Didn't Skyraider pilots score some kills against MiG-17s who tried to turn with them?
http://www.vnafmamn.com/Skyraider_vs_MIG17.html
Excerpt
>Charlie and I fired simultaneously as he passed so close that Charlie thought that I had hit his vertical stabilizer with the tip of my tail hook and Charlie flew through his wake. Both of us fired all four guns. Charlie's rounds appeared to go down the intake and into the wing root and mine along the top of the fuselage and through the canopy. He never returned our fire, rolled inverted and hit a small hill exploding and burning in a farm field.
Looks like the MiG tried to go heads up with the raiders and the raiders got their guns on first.
What's with aversion to prop CAS aircraft when in regards to first world nations?
I know it's probably a dumb question but it seems like a Skyraider type aircraft would be a real help to troops on the ground in the types of conflicts we're running into lately. AKA low rent terrorists.
>plz no hate just curious.
>>30274918
Going down the drone route instead.
>>30274918
While it sure as hell aint no Skyraider, The US Navy sent two OV-10s to the middle east before march this year and the flew 134 sorties and 120 combat missions over 82 days
>>30274285
>"Titanium bathtubs" won't save the aircraft
Of course it won't fucking save the aircraft, it's to save the pilot
Also a lot of MANPADs and SAMs are heaters, so an A-10 would be one hell of a lot more survivable when it gets hit in the externally mounted engine versus a tucano getting hit right in front of the pilot.
>pic related
>>30275065
US also buys Super Tucanos and give it to MENA nations.
>>30265003
Love that damn thing.
>>30264848
Get the fuck outta here with your rational logic, can't you see this is /k/ in the day?
>>30276083
>Of course it won't fucking save the aircraft, it's to save the pilot
It won't even do that against current IADS, AAA guns, and MANPADS.
>>30276757
It's one hell of a lot better than what any other aircraft has
How protected is a Tucano? What are the survivability design features there?
>>30276878
Its a hell of a lot better protection? Sure.
Is armoring an aircraft a fool's errand? Yes.
Nobody is saying the Tucano is survivable outside of COIN. Its that neither the A-10 or Tuc are survivable, but the A-10 is more expensive.
In actual war, the A-10 would get shit on, just like it did by incompetent Iraqis.
Most CAS jets avoid this by flying higher and faster.
Saab A 32A lansen was pretty cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7SVePYcPZE
See 1 min 15 sec
And some more footage of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JQ_30It6cs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o36NXomDUE
>>30274738
That applies to every dedicated attacker ever, it's food for modern fighter jets
Given the opposition it was facing and its combat records, it was a damn impressive aircraft - it could take on almost any role that wasn't heavy bombing or fighter hunting.
>>30276938
>just like it did by incompetent Iraqis.
Sauce?
>>30277218
Well, watch the webm to give you the idea.
>>30263561
I'm starting to notice an alarming trend where people claim the A-10 is useless because it can't compete against modern fighter jets.
Well dub. The A-10 is an attack aircraft. It's not meant to compete with fighter jets and it shouldn't be compared against them like that. It's like saying that the Apache is useless because it can't defeat a MiG-29.
>>30277361
I don't see how this shows an A-10 getting shit on by incompetent iraqis
>>30277513
Fucking this
The hog was made to kill things on the ground and happened to be really good at killing helicopters as well. It was never designed to fight it's way in because no aircraft is going to do that, you're going to use ample fighter cover and support aircraft to get the job done.
>>30277539
My point is to show how Iraqis are incompetent.
>>30277513
Same happens with the A-29 desu. People think that they'l be used to dog-fight air superiority jets.
>>30263561
MUH SUPER TUCANO
MUH 1ST WORLD
MUH WE WUZ KANGZ
>>30270726
THE ultimate prop CAS machine.
>>30277218
A: It shows that the gun has a lot of utility, which we always knew, but it isn't the principal tank-killer on the A-IO. The [Imaging Infrared] Maverick is the big hero there. That was used by the A-10s and the F-16s very, very effectively in places like Khafji.
The other problem is that the A-10 is vulnerable to hits because its speed is limited. It's a function of thrust, it's not a function of anything else. We had a lot of A-10s take a lot of ground fire hits. Quite frankly, we pulled the A-10s back from going up around the Republican Guard and kept them on Iraq's [less formidable] front-line units. That's line if you have a force that allows you to do that. In this case, we had F-16s to go after the Republican Guard.
Q: At what point did you do that?
A: I think I had fourteen airplanes sitting on the ramp having battle damage repaired, and I lost two A- 10s in one day [February 15], and I said, "I've had enough of this." It was when we really started to go after the Republican Guard.
-Lt. Gen. Charles A. Horner
http://mackenzieproductions.com/Gen._Horner.html
>>30277558
>It was never designed to fight it's way in because no aircraft is going to do that, you're going to use ample fighter cover and support aircraft to get the job done.
But why bother with that if you can have one plane capable of doing it all at less risk?
>>30277513
>Its useless because it can't compete
damn straight, anon.
>>30265179
>my fukin sides
>>30278524
You're always going to bother with fighter cover because if aircraft are going in with a full bomb load they're going to diminish their dogfighting capabilities. Why risk them when you can have a few flights of stripped, nimble, F-15s or F-22s flying cover focusing on protecting the strike package?
Airpower is a team effort, anon, not just F-16s and F-35s
>>30277513
That's how the Brrrt meme first started. The chairforce (allegedly) hates the A-10 because fighter jocks only care about air-to-air. So /k/, being contrarian and having more than its fair share of riflemen who've been glad to have some BRRRT show up, takes the opposite position and now we all love the warthog. Then (contrarians that we are), now we all hate the warthog.
The thing is, the A-10 IS brilliant at CAS. The idea that a small number of air superiority fighters operating at high altitude will do as good or better a job just doesn't wash (and attempts to quantify it by the air force only proved that they were eager to twist the numbers to make the case). BUT. In an age of manpads, the A-10 is also far more vulnerable than it's ever been, and it's only going to get worse. And measures to reduce its exposure will erode its advantages at CAS
So I think that ultimately, the Air Force will be right. The real questions are: 1) when will this happen (or has it already)? 2) Is the F-35 the platform to fill that role once the A-10 is obsolete? 3) If not, what do we use?
There's plenty of room for reasonable people to argue about this, and I think the dueling memes reflect this.
>>30267416
Impressive firepower, it's service record however...
>>30278897
OK, sure, but the point is that even in full stealth config an F-35 is still carrying two AMRAAMs and can freely decide whether it need to engage enemy fighters to complete mission.
>>30273107
So he basically tried to make his own IOMAX Archangel, but for cheaper
>>30266996
Not technically CAS, those are Weasels from Spandahlem. Very dangerous, but Defense Suppression isn't the same thing.
Alenna M-346
When the IDF fields the smart 70mm rocket against UAV's, peoples jimmies will be rustled.
I do not have a good pic.
>>30264668
>In order for it to qualify as CAS, the aircraft has to come within visual range of the ground.
Ayyyyyyyyy
The A-10 is the best at CAS, trust me this has been mathematically proven
>>30279784
neat, kinda reminds me of the IL2 series asthetically
>>30263561
>>30263704
>>30263899
>>30264216
>>30264864
>>30266535
>CAS
They can barley pass as COIN aircraft now
>>30270726
Much love for the Skyraider. Nothing says CAS like time on station.
>>30281918
>CAS for COIN operations doesn't count
So I heard you guys like super tucanos. Turns out the afghans do too.
>>30265235
I think he's making a misinformed asumption based around the "kamikaze = CAS" joke
>>30282810
>Mistaking Afghanistan and Austria
Jut because both start with "A" doesn't mean they're the same.
Bubble cockpit is weird1
>>30282867
>>30282810
The fuck is this afghan dirt magic
>>30282174
>tfw went to the ferté allais air display and it was supposed to come but it couldn't because of the rain
fuark
I heard that shit was FAST
>>30264668
>In order for it to qualify as CAS, the aircraft has to come within visual range of the ground.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2q65qOl1tM
>>30263694
FPicBPlane
>the numbers don't lie
The Jug was a great CAS craft and truck/train killer in Europe.
These did pretty well in Vietnam
>>30277513
But that's wrong. It can't handle modern threats on the ground either. See Desert Storm.
>>30289087
>It can't handle modern threats on the ground either
>See Desert Storm
want to bring up some specific instances?
