What does /k/ think of Florida's gun 'laws' being a contribution to this latest shooting?
>>30248509
it was islam and their gay hating ideology that caused this, not guns.
>>30248542
Funny thing is, they're saying
>it wasn't religiously motivated
>he just hated homos
Which I have a really hard time believing considering how incredibly anti-gay Islam (particularly radical Islam) can be.
>>30248557
>>it wasn't religiously motivated
>gay people should die
>kill gay people
>we're gonna kill gay people
>gay people killing will happen when we get the chance
>allah tells us to kill gay people and you're gay so you will be killed
>by us
>okay we're gonna do it now
>okay we're doing it
>this is clearly nothing to do with islam
>islam is a religion of peace
>>30248609
>we never saw it coming
>>30248609
Exactly. Even better, he's of Afghan descent, so it's the perfect storm of
>repressed homosexuality
>violently anti-gay
Ohgod its beginning again.
>>30248542
Absolutely. Islam is a cancer.
>>30248683
>repeal 2nd amendment
anon, is that you?
>>30248557
>>30248646
kek, this. Afghans are some of the worst at being kiddie diddlers of young boys but are yet strongly opposed to homosexuality when someone displays it.
>>30248683
20 first graders were gunned down in cold blood and a sitting member of congress took a bullet to the head without any gun control being passed on a federal level.
Given that the effected group here is a marginalized group and the atrocity was committed by an Islamic terrorist, I can guarantee that nothing is going to get anywhere close to passing.
There's nothing to really worry about from this as far as laws go. If anything, effort should be directed towards supporting the LGBLTBBQ community to make them less marginalized and garner more support for gun rights.
>>30248509
He had a record cleaner than a gay's butthole, brah. He could have gotten a gun no matter what.
>>30248683
Could you imagine how many bullet holes would be on his MT Rushmore face?
It would be unrecognizable in like 5 years...
>>30248509
Florida should have banned murder. Then this wouldn't have happened.
>>30248730
this
it's sad but in the least this along with the Pink Pistols victory might surge LGBT interest in self defense.
>>30248736
he was literally on the no-fly list and you don't end up on that just by being Muslim.
>>30248719
>Afghans are some of the worst at being kiddie diddlers
Not just kiddie diddlers. They diddle cross-dressing kiddies. The cognitive dissonance in that culture is absurd.
>>30248730
>>30248750
And what about "legislating from the bench"? Can't courts, or even executive order fuck us over without passing new law?
>>30248750
Yup. Though we need to find a better way to attract them to groups like Pink Pistols than the heavy-handed
>well if they were armed this wouldn't have happened!
While it may be true, it almost amounts to victim-blaming and doesn't tend to go over well with most people.
>>30248683
>Mt. Ruchmo
Please tell me this is a troll account or something. He's not serious, right?
>>30248683
>mount Ruchmo
fucking niggers
>>30248760
then how do you explain this? https://licensing.freshfromflorida.com/access/individual.aspx?TYPE=INDIVIDUAL&CATEGORY=&COUNTY=00&LICENSE=G%202704169&STATUS=IND_DETAIL
the guy had permits for security work. They dont just hand those out like candy.
>>30248760
>no fly list
>actually matters
Has nothing to do with his criminal record, brah.
You can't carry in nightclubs, bars, etc.
t. space /k/oast fag
>>30248774
which is exactly what will happen if killary gets elected. a liberal appointment to the SCOTUS will swing it 5-4 in their favor.
>>30248774
Not really in this case. The shooter had an incredibly clean record - the FBI had briefly looked at him, but he'd never done anything suspicious enough to warrant investigation. The kind of anti-gun activism you usually see from courts tends to be support for existing laws, so there's nothing to worry about there as long as nothing gets passed on a local level.
And as far as executive orders go, there's really not much else Obama can do. Of course he could try to direct the ATF to not let people buy a gun if they've ever been looked at by the FBI, but that's such a massive breach of due process that even if he was stupid enough to try it, it'd be smacked down by the courts incredibly fast.
>>30248814
Please tell me you've been to Valiant Air Command.
>>30248730
and that was a white guy!
>>30248839
Yes, but only once.
>>30248844
Yup. We've already had the perfect storm for gun control and still nothing's happened.
As terrible and callous as it sounds, people just don't care as much about the victims when you throw in the qualifier of "gay," and, because the shooter was associated with radical Islam, it's going to split the people calling for action, with many demonizing Islam as a whole and undermining the whole movement.
Of course the real terrifying thing here is that this guy was a lone wolf terrorist that could not have been reasonably stopped, no matter what we did.
>>30248836
>gets passed on a local level
This is the bloomberg plan, though--to pass state and local legislation and keep fracture the market for firearms, and in turn availability.
I live in 15roundsville because of this very thing. Shopping online for firearms can be surprisingly painful sometimes now. They keep these "common sense" small measures and it's cumulative pressure.
>>30248948
>Yup. We've already had the perfect storm for gun control and still nothing's happened.
It wasn't the current year then though.
>>30248509
stolen
>A Muslim walks into a gay bar.
>The bartender asks, "What'll you have?"
>The Muslim replies, "Let me get some shots for everybody!"
>>30248509
but he had a license op
>>30248509
can't carry in bars
shooter was a muslim and as they proved with the paris attack they can get guns fucking everywhere regardless of entirely the bans they openly flaunt. Time to solve the muslim problem; send anyone who isn't a citizen back to their own fucking country and close immigration from the region, all powers the president has in the constitution.
even if superman threw every gun into the sun the guy could have burned the place down and would have killed more people. Arson is still king of american mass killings and mass killings internationally
>>30249029
How does an occupational license and a concealed weapons permit relate to a mass shooting?
>>30249044
>send anyone who isn't a citizen back to their own fucking country and close immigration from the region
Kinda funny that what you're proposing is just as difficult and ludicrous as banning all guns
>>30249069
>What does /k/ think of Florida's gun 'laws' being a contribution to this latest shooting?
>>30249069
well the implication in ops post is that firearms are freely available in florida (they are=) were a contributing factor in the shooting. having a concealed weapons permit means omar would have had access to equivalent weapons in any state, possibly just with smaller mags.
>>30248509
The shooter was a duly licensed armed guard. Even if Florida were Cuckifornia tier regarding gun laws, this guy would have still had access to "assault weapons".
>>30249069
He didn't have a CCL, at least there's no way to know if he did, since that information isn't public. He had a class D and class G license which makes him an armed guard.
>>30249082
kinda funny that you're fucking wrong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consular_nonreviewability
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerry_v._Din
immigration enforcement and policy interpretation lies firmly with the executive branch and the state department. we've done it repeatedly in the past, do it now, and can do it more thoroughly with the right man in office.
>bu...bu...bu...
if we don't import them across the fucking ocean we won't have the california attack or "Omar Saddiqui Mateen" shooting fags for being haram
>>30249082
> just as difficult and ludicrous as banning all guns
How Is pulling a truck up in front of home depot and waving a $10 bill at some spics hard?
>BPR has uncovered a voter registration of a 29-year-old Omar Mir Seddique Mateen that shows he is a registered member of the Florida Democrat Party.
every
fucking
time
>democrat
>>30248509
>What does /k/ think of Florida's gun 'laws' being a contribution to this latest shooting?
In Florida you can't carry in a bar, so anyone with a CPL who was obeying the regulations, would have left their handgun at home.
Though there was an Orlando cop apparently doing security there who exchanged shots with the attacker, but we don't know what the situation was in the night club and an AR trumps a handgun.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Orlando_nightclub_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Florida
Concealed carry
Firearms regulations are uniform throughout Florida, and a carry license
is valid everywhere other than in a few specially-defined areas. These
specially-defined prohibited areas include:
Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for
consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily
devoted to such purpose;
Open carry when on foot in a public area is generally illegal, but is permitted
in certain circumstances, as defined by Florida statute 790.25(3). For example,
open carry is permitted while hunting, fishing, camping, gun shows, or while
shooting, and while going to and from such activities.[15]
The open carry ban statute is currently being challenged in Court[16] In 2010,
Florida was one of seven states that had a ban on open carrying of a weapon.
[17] In 2015, Florida is one of five states that has a ban on open carrying of
a firearm, but there is currently a bill in the works to legalize open carry to
those possessing a valid concealed weapons license(see hb163 and sb300).
[citation needed]
>>30248509
What shooting? There can't have been any deaths, because I distinctly remember immediately after the Charlie hebdo shooting all those claiming that it wouldn't have happened if France had less gun control, and that picture of the phone filming the police getting shot replaced with the sight picture of a gun. Therefore I believe you're lying about this shooting and it's just another government false flag
>>30249237
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39JYVm8CrXc
>>30249267
Source?
>>30249294
>>30249267
kek
>uncovered
Voter registration lists are public records in many states, and often available online. Florida probably hosts them itself, given its open records policies.
>>30249312
Thank you.
>>30248972
Luckily in FL state gun laws trump all local laws. It came up four years ago when the jackassed mayor of Tampa wanted to make the city gun free during the Republican convention and the governor told him to pound sand.
>>30248705
Its not, unfortunately.
>>30248760
National Guard helicopter pilot here. No fly list is a joke. Three years ago I had a bird strike (fucking geese) take out an engine and wound up having to set a Black Hawk down on the tarmac of a regional airport.
TSA put me on the no-fly list for "making an unauthorized entrance to a secure area (read: landed a crashing aircraft at a place designed for aircraft rather than plunging into the Mississippi River or a busy freeway) with possible terroristic intentions" (read: Damaged fuel lines leaked their contents onto the ground)
>>30249331
but we are still vulnerable to changes in state law, which is what they've been pushing in washington and oregon
>>30249388
Unlike the federal government Florida politics isn't held in the balance by one Supreme Court appointment. The fact open carry was sidelined by one Democrat with an R next to his name in the Judiciary Committee was a fluke that will likely be rectified with the new committee appointments coming up.
>>30249349
that's pretty shit, did you just land and forget to declare emergency on the comms? that's the only scenario I can think would cause that reaction by tsa
also we know what gun the guy was using and if it had been modded at all?
>>30249069
Bernie and other Democrat retards will insist "expanded background checks" should be passed because of this shooting.
This fucker had state firearms licenses, with extensive background checks.
Use this information to call them out on their disingenuous bullshit.
>>30249494
The bird strike happened right as I was approaching the turn point where I would have crossed the river to avoid the airport's no fly zones. apparently the damage happened where the fuel pump and lines were still functioning, but it was just spraying out the side of the bird. By the time we got it leveled out and the fuel shut down, most of it was gone. Basically, it was river, freeway or tarmac. I was down so fast I didn't have time to call emergency. I mean, the fucking ATC saw us take the strike, we were that close.
>>30249349
> fucking geese
>>30248509
>implying America's immigration "laws" weren't a greater contributor
>>30248683
mt satchmo?
>>30249545
>apparently the damage happened where the fuel pump and lines were still functioning, but it was just spraying out the side of the bird
that's fucking metal
>>30248805
yes they do
>>30248509
I think that if they didn't need permits to carry handguns, some of the faggots could have been armed and able to fight back.
>>30249768
that's reasonable action in event of emergency. sounds like beaurcratic BS stung you out of spite.
>>30249773
No, they don't. That isn't the same as a CCL.
>>30248509
was his guns even legal?
Not even reading through the thread before posting this but:
> Security officer
>Went through all the training and gained all permits needed to be seen as capable with the firearms
>Declares allegiance to ISIS over a 911 call before shooting
>Goes on to commit a horrible act
>Obama speech proceeds to remove focus on Islamic ideology and instead focuses on how easy the guns were to acquire.
This shooting should be an eye opener for a lot of people, showing that Obama is trying to gun grab at the max with that speech he made. No law would have stopped this guy, even if he was already being investigated by officials.
>>30249545
How did you obtain the details of your TSA ban, and did the Guard have anything to say about it?
>>30248683
>nonenvoid
>Mt.Ruchmo
Goddammit nigger
>>30249824
Security work? Like a guard card? Any druggy fucknut can get those anywhere.
>>30249887
You could say the same thing about police then. The same class "G" is required for them.
>>30249868
>Obama speech proceeds to remove focus on Islamic ideology and instead focuses on how easy the guns were to acquire.
I don't think we watched the same speech. He indirectly referenced gun control once and mentions ISIS and terrorism repeatedly
>>30248509
>media can't even come up with accurate figures
>first report was white male, neo nazi related, 20 dead
>few hours later: jewish guy, 30 dead
>now: muslim 50 dead
it's way to early to know if the gun was legal, and sourced in FL.
apparently fucknut has domestic violence issues in the past, which is why he was under investigation. How in the name of fuck did that not show up on a background check for his licenses?
>>30249868
Imma need sauce on that 911 call
>>30249923
>sourced
I despise people like you.
>>30249828
Well there are some idiots in every single continent...
Might be worth noting that Europe is geographically a large area, where both legislation and attitudes vary from one place at least as much as in US states. In addition - not all countries are experiencing the similar level of danger.
Also, there is not terribly much that average citizen can do. Certain countries in Europe have kind of had to learn to live with the fact that there might be occasional act of terror every now and then - it just does not stop us from living our lives.
I'm European.
>>30249958
Unless he was actually arrested, why would it show up on his criminal record?
>>30248509
there is only one course of action...
>>30249995
being charged with domestic violence unless exonerated is an insta DQ from buying a firearm. have you never filled out a 4473?
>>30249987
The reports change each time. Ive been awake and bored at work since 12 am PST with nothing to do but follow this shit.
>>30249868
>showing that Obama is trying to gun grab at the max with that speech he made.
He made a standard speech the same as all the other ones after mass shootings, there was no push to ban guns, fucking relax
>>30249958
I'd just like to point out that wearing a maroon dress shirt with a purple striped tie is a cry for help from an obviously closeted faggot.
>>30250019
Yes, I have filled out a 4473. Where does it say he was ever charged with domestic violence? Just because he beat the shit out of his ex, it doesn't mean she ever had him arrested.
>>30249913
Took the time to watch it again and he stated that it was currently being investigated as an act of terrorism but the actual connections to any specific groups is still to be seen. He goes on to give his condolences to the people of Orlando and the gays, stating an attack like this is an attack on all Americans. Afterwards he brings in guns into the speech by saying how it is a further reminder of how easy it is to gain access to them and basically a call to arms to strengthen current legislation. Although this might be just a single instance that he brought guns up, he only needs to bring it up once to show you what his immediate response to blame the gun.
>>30249958
Probably because gun control doesn't actually work.
>>30249970
Literally looked up the guy's name and 911 call.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/orlando-gay-club-gunman-identified-omar-mateen-article-1.2670581
>>30250059
Shariah law permits husbands to beat their wives. I think the only restriction is if you use a stick it must be smaller diameter than your thumb.
>>30250069
he shilled 1/10th as hard as the other times. obamas never seemed sincere in wanting to ban guns, unlike established eternal neocons like shilldog. He has a year left, he can't do jack shit, knows it, and doesn't have to stroke the shaft for a reelection campaign.
>>30249226
The shooter was born in America. He was a native American citizen, regardless of his heritage you dolt.
>>30250229
>1st generation
>being investigated for terrorism
The boston bombing was done by some dindunuffin first generation "americans" too. The last ISIS terrorists in california however were immigrants, same in the paris attacks, sydney, and brussels.
We'll see whether the next is a radicalized islamic youth or a "refugee"; either is unacceptable and blocking immigration from the latter frees up resources to better investigate the former.
>>30248683
>nonenvoid
>>30249528
that's not calling them out, that's like asking for even more inquisitional background checks.
>>30248761
It's what happens when you fuck relatives and goats for 1400 years in the mountains.
>>30248509
I mean the fact it is Florida is the #1 reason shit hit the fan. Florida's official motto is "Where Shit Gets Real".
>>30248730
CALL THE PINK PISTOLS
>>30250414
I know that's what their politicians want, but their mindless followers simply repeat the meme that "expanded background checks" will solve the problem.
So call them out. Expanded how? What should these checks look for that they don't already? If they try to change the subject to "muh gun show loophole," I know that "loophole" is bullshit but don't get derailed - he clearly passed state background checks, so discussing a nonexistent "loophole" to avoid background checks is irrelevant.
Don't let them spread bullshit unchallenged. "Expanded background checks" is disingenuous bullshit and gun control types repeat it having no idea what it means.
>he had a firearm license, which meant limited background checks when buying firearms
goddamn fucking CNN kikes
>>30249267
This is not surprising, with that image that muslims have in the US, it would make sense as to why they would vote Democrat.
>>30250575
they've doublethinked that because he got a security guard's license and Concealed carry permit, it let him get out of background checks when buying guns. As if the 4473 will start going WOOOP WOOOP MORALS TEST FAILED CRIMINAL INTENT DETECTED if you fill it out instead of running your valid CC which has a higher bar of entry than "didn't get caught beating your wife, not a felon" to things like "2 or less misdemeanor convictions" and "has $300"
>>30248557
It's a cognitive dissonance for multi cultis. They can't acknowledge that Islam has some abhorrent beliefs that are incompatible with liberal democratic values, so they have to say it was just "regular homophobia" and then turn your attention to firearms with made up bullshit like the "one mass shooting per day" statistic some faggit on Reddit made up.
>>30248509
Latest information is that the guy was a licensed security guard in Florida and thus was able to buy a LEO/ffl weapon.
That was not a normal AR it was a full auto m4.
So all this "guns r the problem durr" shit is hilariously dishonest and retarded to watch, because even with comprehensive gun seizures this man would still have had this weapon.
The failure here is one of security, how does someone twice previously investigated by fbi and known to the feds get a clearance and security guard licensee and presumably ffl necessary to own this thing and nobody fucking noticed?
HOW the fuck does that happen?
All this fucking gun grab shit is the left trying to cover up the fact that Obamas fbi missed this guy.
>>30248646
And his father is a supporter of the Afghan Taliban.
>>30248760
>he was literally on the no-fly list and you don't end up on that just by being Muslim.
You're right, you can end up on it for absolutely no reason at all.
>>30250744
>was able to buy a LEO/ffl weapon.
no
>CNN reporter points out he could have used a bomb
surprised
>>30250747
Right exactly.
Not only does fbi miss getting the guy fucking twice but nobody stops to revoke or prevent him getting a security guard license and ffl
There will be a congressional investigation about this
>>30250768
Yes nigger:
http://myfox8.com/2016/06/12/gunman-in-florida-terror-attack-that-killed-50-was-private-security-guard/
>>30250744
>>30250773
Bureaucracy at its finest
>>30250744
thats not how it works. you dont just get to buy nfa items by becoming an ffl. theres a process involved for every single NFA item that takes months.
>>30250800
being a security guard does not allow you to buy full auto weapons, kys
>>30250770
Or fire which killed twice as many people at that Great White concert. Chain the doors and torch the place.
>>30249545
they rectify that or did it cause you all kinds of bullshit?
TSA really shouldnt be allowed to do shit, they're total fucking bottom barrel retarded niggers
>>30250773
Because it's for collecting fees, not actually performing a service. Purpose is to fleece people for more tax revenue.
>>30248683
>people are really this stupid
ouch
>>30249288
You can't legally carry in an establishment that makes most of it's profits from alcohol sales you dunder head.
>>30249824
ok mr security guard, whatever you say. they pass out armed security certs like they're last years model going out of style
>>30250884
dude I'm pretty sure you can't buy full auto m4 with a barney 5 license.
>>30250815
as a practicing LEO you can purchase things us less equal animals aren't allowed access to.
If he met the qualifications he could legally purchase fucking anything and even if he just had a grab bag of LEO certifications, CC, and an FFL he would have gone through multiple state and federal background checks.
>>30250921
no. that is not how it works
>>30250884
>ok mr security guard, whatever you say. they pass out armed security certs like they're last years model going out of style
You just have to pay to take a class you fucking moron. It's literally a class for your unarmed and a class for armed. A class you pay for and can take so long as you aren't a felon. Holy fucking shit you're so fucking stupid dude.
>>30250815
I'm well fucking aware and clearly it didn't work because the feds dropped the ball.
My personal theory is that they intentionally fail to profile these people because Obama insists Muslims not be "harassed" inside his government, Robert Gates has said he does this.
>>30250833
No but it does make it easier to do your nfa ect when applying for a license to buy them.
>>30250861
Yes
>>30250747
Yes
>>30250814
Yep
This is just more proof of the true disarmament agenda. They want all of you to be limp wristed government dependants with no means of resistance so when the time comes to put you in camps or outright get rid of you in favor of cheaper immigrant labor you can do anything about it.
Gun control literally would not have stopped a single one of any of these shootings especially not this one only true profiling as the kikes do in Isreal could stop this stuff and if you used that the rest of us not crazy fucks could still own guns.
But again they don't want that they want the chaos and disarmament.
Example: Europe
>>30250019
>charged
I think you mean "convicted"
>>30250953
*can't do
>>30250737
I've been seeing more that people are taking the words of the father at face value when the father claimed it had nothing to do with Islam.
Instead of understanding that a family that didn't realize their son was planning something like this might not have the best understanding of his motives, everyone's just jumping on a statement that amounts to someone trying to divert criticism as "proof" that it had nothing to do with Islam.
All while conveniently ignoring things like the fact that Islam, particularly radical Islam, is so homophobic that it makes most Christian sects look like a gay pride parade, and that the family's from an absurdly homophobic part of the world. Or that the gunman literally declare support for ISIS before he went on the rampage.
Honestly, I see those people constantly trying to downplay the role of Islam in these attacks just as toxic as the people openly hostile to all muslims. By trying to hide the fact that Islam - no matter how radicalized and distorted it may be - was a motivating factor in the attacks, it gives many people the feeling that Islam's being unduly protected. Hell, it's part of the reason Trump and a bunch of far-right candidates are so popular across the West right now. By pretending the problem doesn't exist, you get a bunch of pissed-off people who start looking for more extreme solutions, because an extreme solution like deportations and an immigration ban is (to many people) better than a government sticking its fingers in its ears and denying that the problem exists.
>>30250047
i dont know any gays that would willfully wear a jersey shore combo like that
>>30250953
>My personal theory is that they intentionally fail to profile these people because Obama insists Muslims not be "harassed" inside his government, Robert Gates has said he does this.
either that or theyre afraid to fail them so they dont get fired for racial profiling or something like that.
>>30248557
>>30248609
>>30248646
Ordinary homophobes could never enough focus to take down 50.
Islam is astoundingly good at nurturing a focussed drive to slay major-event-level hordes of homos.
So what specific guns was he using? All I've read is a Glock and a "high powered assault weapon"
>>30250975
>Instead of understanding that a family that didn't realize their son was planning something like this might not have the best understanding of his motives
This is the crux of the issue for me. It's 99% likely his father and ex wife were completely unaware of his radicalization, especially after his wife left him. It just so happens his reaction to that gay couple in Miami was it bubbling to the surface and his father didn't recognize it.
The reason they are trying to downplay it is to "protect a marginalized group", but it really does come off as just being retarded.
>>30250960
>get charged with DV
>go to buy a gun to shoot your cunt wife
>JK she also filed a restraining order on you
>no guns for you
>jk, the state didn't bother to send that info to the FBI and it doesn't come up in the NICS check
>shoot wife
>commit suicide by cop outside a liquor store
>used as an example of why we need more gun control to make the current gun control work.
>>30250975
Sanity on my /k/? What is this sorcery?
A good point well put. Top marks to you.
>>30251035
Ive heard Ar-15. Could've been using a Ruger Mini-14.
>>30250170
>not sincere
except for the import bans, for the russian 5.45, the russian guns, and the korean surplus
and the attempt at banning 855
and the push for universal background checks
annnnnd the SSA rep payee ban
annnnnnd the VA ban
annnnnd the call for renewed AWB
annnnnnd the kitchen table dealer restriction
annnnnd the confiscation of 40mm illumination rounds
annnnnnd the attempt to fuck trusts by requiring fingerprints and photos
annnnnnd the restriction on the m201a1 fuses for smoke grenades
Im sure theres more I cant think of off the top of my head.
>hillary a neocon
get off our board you fucking communist
>>30251035
>>30251098
Considering how clueless the media is it could any of those.
>>30250744
>latest information
i didnt realize YOUR ASS was putting out news briefs.
>>30251131
>the president doing any of that besides crocodile tears over muh ded kids muh AWB
i'm assmad about all of that but it's bureaucrats who need to be shot over it
>hillary
>not a neocon
>not a alinsky trained bank shill working towards a social state corporatocracy
wew
>>30251131
So I can't own an M203 anymore?
>>30250800
you're a worthless moron who hasnt got a fucking clue as to what he's talking about.
get the fuck out
>>30250911
its wasnt a full auto you troll.
>>30250911
being an armed security guard gives you no extra rights buying a gun.
it wasnt a full auto and he sure as hell wasnt on the NFA registry
>>30251057
I've gotten really good at contrarian shitposting because there's hippies on my facebook feed always posting shitty articles making terrible arguments so they and their friends can circle-jerk. While they'll block anyone who's openly racist/sexist/special-snowflake-ist, I've gotten good at walking the fine line where I'm contrarian without being overtly offensive so I can call people out on their bullshit.
And half the time it's not even stuff I agree with I'm arguing. A lot of the times they're just making such terrible arguments that any half-assed devil's advocate can tear apart their circle-jerk.
>>30250921
>as a practicing LEO you can purchase things us less equal animals aren't allowed access to.
no, you cant. some agencies allow you to buy a semi auto carbine if you want to carry one in your vehicle, and some agencies will issue you a gun.
to access a full auto gun its either going to be issued directly from your department via armorer/supervisor/quartermaster who has to be certified to order those things, on department letterhead, just like bangs, smoke, CS, etc...
>If he met the qualifications he could legally purchase fucking anything and even if he just had a grab bag of LEO certifications, CC, and an FFL he would have gone through multiple state and federal background checks.
thats not how it works Jr.
you're not a LEO, sit down, shut up.
>>30248557
it was an isis attack. their radical mosque had recently an imam come in and say all gays must die
remove kebab
>>30251412
It was pretty normal muslim behavior. No need to go calling him an isis radical, anon.
>>30251382
>having a FFL isn't a higher tier of background check than a 4473
at least I know I should have no problem getting a tabletop commercial FFL if suspected terrorists are issued them.
>my department is shit and my boss hates me for being a faggot
sounds like a personal problem if you're a cop and they didn't toss you a hand me down M16A1 to stick in your patrol car. Maybe they think you'll go all Pvt. Pyle.
>>30251382
Hey ignoramus:
every single state has laws or clauses within gun control laws, exempting LEOs and retired LEOs from said gun controls. The only way you could be this ignorant is if you live on Mars or a foreign country, or if you're a kid, kid.
>>30251056
a charge of a criminal act and a restraining order are 2 different things and one does not require the other.
its also 2 seperate questions on a 4473.
the 4473 at no point asks if you've been "charged" with anything
only if you have been convicted
and/or
are subject to a restraining order
they cant dent you rights based on dropped charges
>>30251434
This. Mainstream Sunni Islam is all about killing kuffar.
>>30251195
did i say that?
lurk more, preferably somewhere that actually knows what they're talking about
(hint: not /k/)
>>30251434
this is why western muslims need to start a reform muslim offshoot religion so we can channelize our ire at the bronze age death cult ones.
If they aren't willing, then they aren't modern western muslims and are Taqiyya practicing kebab that needs to be treated like any other batshit fundamentalist group and outright removed whenever fitting.
>>30251477
they don't let you drop charges of domestic violence. if you're charged the only two end results are exonerated or convicted.
>>30251195
You can. There was an issue where some IR illumination rounds got sold improperly and the ATF went knocking.
>>30248780
Agreed. As a queer, if someone told me that I'd be a pissed even though i agree. Its pretty shitty after a tragedy to have someone be like "well you should have done xyz"
The shooter shiuld have killed queers. Thats all there is to it.
>>30251465
hey ignoramus
there is no state law exemptions for active or retired state or local leos that supercedes federal law.
all full autos go on the registry, all full autos must be aquired thru someone licensed to deal with the ATF who has an SOT stamp to deal specifically with full autos.
even police departments have to order their full autos thru this special type of FFL.
>>30249388
Btw whats up with oregon laws?
>>30248509
Don't worry anons, Trump is going to win.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>30250343
Strange there is more blood there than what you saw from the Paris nightclub "mass shooting"
>>30251588
>they really should be reformed before they ever set foot on western soil.
There is no reformation. The media and britain has shown these fucks that society will bend and conform to their will/ways due to the fact countries want to stay on their 'moral high horse'
Back in 1850-1950, immigrants knew that they were coming to a new foreign land and bringing their culture with them, but it was not the culture of their new home. Just speak to some old people, they will tell you that. irish, italian, etc etc parents would teach their 1st gen kids, they are in america and need to learn american ways. But not today, now its all about being PC and tolerance/acceptance of others who are different than yourselves. Fuck that shit, its lead to nothing but problems: Feminism, LGBT, peacocking about anything that isnt the quo-accepted norm. All of this idiocracy is leading to the demise of a once great nation, and turning it into the squabbling of amassed turkeys.
>>30251527
>they don't let you drop charges of domestic violence
1) depends on the state.
2) if a witness refuses to testify there aint much you can do. doesnt matter if the charge is dropped by the prosecutor or dismissed by a judge the result is the same and my point still stands which was on a 4473 there is only questions for convictions or subject to pfa.
there are no questions regarding "charges"
>>30251719
Yeah this is the failure (or goal) of the multicult--no pressure for integration, which dissolves nationality of their new country. They're the same nationality before they left; the only difference is geographic location. However, this is straying far off topic for /k/ so I'm done.
Pic related, what the bar looked like during the shooting (BREAKING NEWS)
>>30251558
>Its pretty shitty after a tragedy to have someone be like "well you should have done xyz"
Yeah. We need to find a better way to encourage self defense for at risk groups.
Problem I see is that it'd run into the same opposition any kind of anti-rape defense runs into - people getting all belligerent because "you should teach people not to rape, not how to avoid getting raped." Of course that's the case, but there also should be a degree of pragmatism to it because the world's a shitty place. Really I feel like the focus should be something like
>Yes we know the focus should be on stopping faggots from bashing homos
>but until that stops, there's still gonna be homo bashing
>so it's best to take some proactive steps to stop from getting bashed
>>30250118
That rule comes from elsewhere
>>30252045
All the Quran says is you're supposed to use a rod, not your fist; and when she relents and spreads her legs, you should stop caning her. Because Allah is merciful and so should you be.
Isn't that wonderful?
/simper
>>30250343
>aktchually....
The boston bombers weren't born in America. They immigrated here as children
>>30252310
so batting 800 on immigrants being the key demographic for islamic terrorism
20 dead kids couldn't get rid of guns, 50 dead fags won't do either....right guys?
People realize this is just Islamic terrorism like the Boston bombings, right?
>>30249792
and bar carry were legal, you make a fine point.
>>30248509
He passed the background check to become a licensed security guard, he could have accomplished this in any US state.
Plus it isn't like France's stricter gun laws helped them...
>>30252663
Bar carry is legal all over the place. Maybe Florida and Texas need to get over their "most conservative" club self image and work to improve their laws.
>>30248509
So anyone can buy the gun and carry it without a permit/license?
Seems bit too dangerous isn't it?
>>30253066
critical thinking isn't your strong suit, is it random cuck anon.
>>30253066
Background checks are required for all FFL transfers. Open carry is illegal. Concealed carry is legal through licensing, and additional background checks/registration/fingerprinting. OP is faggot.
>>30248509
Not much. It happened in Cali and Paris; they don't stop much.
>>30252683
He had also been beating his wife since 2009, which would have prevented him from owning firearms and had his confiscated
I wonder how being muslim influenced the fact that it went unreported, though
>>30253066
Criminals don't need permits and licensing since they already carry their firearms illegally
>>30248683
Can we repeal the 13th amendment first?
>>30248760
>>30250763
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/local/right-name-wrong-man-knoxville-veterinarian-cant-get-off-no-fly-list-26f4d248-2e52-111a-e053-0100007-362692771.html
>>30250975
I would say the father was most likely unaware of his sons radicalisation.
Moderates arent getting investigated by the FBI over their links to known terrorists. Nor do they have such a rage over seeing two men kissing in public that their father even becomes aware that they saw two men kissing in public or that they got upset over that.
>>30253245
I think if they could fix the issues with the no-fly list it could be used to at least provide some degree of extra scrutiny on people.
But at present its a fucking joke and I dont think its actually possible to fix because .gov is always stuck on full retard.
>>30248774
Executive orders can be overthrown by court law and it can also be overthrown by the next chief executive. Courts can only form case law by the current laws. So if there was a clear cut amendment that said American citizens can bear arms, then states can do whatever they want but outright ban guns otherwise the courts would have to overturn that legislation. And oh look we have 2A so we're straight.
>>30249315
why is that? i dont like seeing myself in those lists
>>30254104
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5MBQ9UhS01swTh860m_tvQ/videos
>his father was most likely unaware of his sons radicalisation
wew
>>30249958
Shes trying to avoid charges of being an accomplice?
Also yes, OP, change that last yes to a no and chances go up that someone in the area has a pistol, and might be willing to shoot the nutjob.
