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/k/, I'm in the market for a new vehicle. I posted this on /o/ but that wasn't all that helpful. I would like for it to be /k/ related and reasonably built probably 2005 or newer, but mainly /k/ related. I have some specific needs for it. Here it goes
I am replacing my Explorer. It rolled over 200k and just fucking died. Everything just broke at once and today for the third time this week and the fifth time in its life time I have had failure to start the engine(no issue with battery or starter, had those checked.) It is time in the American way to replace this fucker.
I need a vehicle for
>snow
>mountains
>general safety
>ability to take a deer with minimal deformation or damage
>some modern comforts
I am not about to buy a new or even newer car, but I definitely need a 4x4 with some good crash safety equipment. I live in West Virginia. It snows a shit ton and sliding off the road is inevitable, I need to survive that. Hitting a deer is inevitable and I would like something built well enough to take the hit without breaking fucking everything on the front end incase I can't afford repairs right away. I am routinely on interstates and will need some acceleration and decent handling at speed. I feel a truck would be best, but am generally unsure of where to start as this will only be my second car and the first time I am in control of the buy. I am limited to 15000 max.
TL;DR I need a solid, yet modern enough for comfort truck for tough weather and daily use.
>pic is current 2001 sport trac
Toyota Tacoma Crew Cab, not exactly luxurious, but it'll get what you need done... well, done. If you want something bigger, get a previous generation Ford or Chevy.
Get a 'yota and learn to wrench. It'll last forever.
>>30242876
check into the nissan pathfinders. i have a 2nd gen i just bought with almost 250k miles and it is still running strong. they are very similar to 4runners in terms of reliability and off road capabilities, but way cheaper because they aren't as popular or well known.
>>30242960
Thanks. Forgot to mention, a bed is very useful for my usual purposes.
>>30242876
4.0L Jeep Cherokee
/thread
>>30243110
Dude wants a bed. Go commanche.
>>30242876
Land Cruiser
>>30243110
Yes, it's like a tug boat. Very reliable. Lots of parts.
Basic Ford f150 is always a good choice too.
Put a 4bt into a toyota pickup 20 years old or older
>>30243123
>90 cruiser
shit
Patrol or nothing
>>30243164
>unironically recommending a ford
head gasket salesman pls
>>30243168
>Patrol or nothing
die nigger
Old Tundra or Tacoma would be your best bet. Pic related replaced my '03 Tundra, but that thing still sits out on the in-law's land, only thing fucked on it is the power steering pump is starting to give out after nearly 200k miles throughout high school and college (has completely left the ground 4 times and been mudding more times than I care to remember), and many long distance drives. The thing is fucking bomb-proof.
>>30243210
>be a cruiser owner
>brake my diff
>swap a patrol diff in
>>30242939
Not OP but this is my plan.
What are some good resources for learning about car maintenance? General stuff is good, but I feel a lot of it is model specific.
I'm a mechanical engineer but you'd be fucking surprised how little you'll learn about cars if you don't work in that field.
>>30243226
Shit that's nice. I want a LC but poor collegefag.
>That feeling when you want a fj70.
>that feeling when you'll get nothing but sloppy imported seconds because you live in america
>>30243182
I have been driving my Ford F150 2 wheel drive through deep mud here in Texas for about a month now on my ranch everyday. I have those new bf goodrich all terrains, it is a great work truck if you know how to maintain a vehicle.
>>30243231
chrisfix on youtube
or a get friends who love cars and you will be all about that ls swap life n shit in a month
>>30243257
>about a month now
>Requires maintenance already
isuzu trooper senpai
>>30243242
Recent restoration. A BMW M57 was swapped in.
>>30243231
dealership job is the best way to learn. bust your ass till they let you in the shop. Proceed to use and abuse your newfound access to over a million dollars worth in tools and machines
>>30243282
>>30243278
Ford life
>>30243282
Not OP but I'd like to get something like this, what are some similar SUVs from 1990 or before?
>>30243226
>>30243123
>>30242939
And aren't there two variants of the Land Cruiser that were made at the same time?
>>30242876
>bulletproof
>4wd
>05 or newer
>comfy
> $15k
So you're looking for a mall crawler with a gorillion miles on it?
Sounds like you should just fix your Explorer again, you'll just inherit another pile of someone else's problems at that price point.
>>30242876
I just got a 2015 sierra last year
13500 miles in and no regrets
>>30243278
There is a reason most government vehicles are Fords with a 4.6
>>30242876
armoured landcruiser wagon
>>30243359
So they can pay $20,000 for a spark plug every month or two to fund their secret projects?
Speaking of which, theoretically what caliber of round would be viable to put on a truck mount without the suspension having a fucking seizure? When I use my truck bed as a firing platform with my nugget it rocks back and forth pretty good, can't imagine how hard it must be to hit anything if I had a machine gun on there.
Of course this is all theoretical
>>30242876
If you are in America then the answer is 4runner.
>>30243334
>And aren't there two variants of the Land Cruiser that were made at the same time?
I think way way back.
>>30242876
>ctrl-f
>no sotv
What the fuck, /k/? Get on my level.
http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/there-is-is-nothing-special-about-the-special-forces-ne-1694594128
>>30243388
What do you drive? Or are you allowed to drive?
>>30242876
I love my FJ. cant go wrong with a body on frame Toyota
>only 200k
kek
>>30243231
Vehicle maintenance is actually very easy if you are somewhat intelligent and not lazy and willing to get dirty. Basic toolsnone should already have are most all you need to perform basic duties. Yourube has info on almost any vehicle. Weapon also. A vehicle is a weapon.
>>30242876
CHEVY C1500
There's a trim for everything
Also, does anyone know a bit about cars? I've had a little problem with mine lately, and /o/ was useless in helping
What's wrong with the car?
>>30243283
>Putting a BMW engine in a Land Cruiser
Sounds very difficult. How do you get the motor mounts to work and connect the new engine to the transmission?
>>30243510
Do you mean the patrol?
>How do you get the motor mounts to work
polski magic
>connect the new engine to the transmission
An adapter pretty much
>>30243463
go ahead, i'll do what i can.
I had an issue with it dying on idling and putting it into gear, and quickly resolved it by replacing the Throttle position sensor and gutting the throttle body and cleaning out all of the injectors. In the process of re-gasketing the the TBI, I unfortunately must have put a gasket on wrong and had a small fuel fire, but it didn't damage too much.
After that, it runs very weird. The injectors don't spray a fine mist and the truck will die if you keep one of the vacuum hoses connected to one of the air sensors.
I'm pretty stumped. Where can I go from here?
>>30243550
Well you say you had a fire? Something is melted is my first guess. Hard to say without pics
>>30243572
I'll have to take some, but it really isn't much that melted. I fixed the vacuum hose that was burnt, and the TPS was pretty burnt, but still works just fine. It's dark, but let me see if I can't get some decent ones.
There's still a small gas leak from the TBI that I need to fix if that helps anything
>>30243589
If your throttle position sensor was burnt bad maybe, but that leak is not normal at all lol
>>30243589
that would certainly helps things.
>>30243606
>>30243612
Yeah, good point guys. The vacuum hose thing is weird though. I had actually just died in the middle of the road today while I was going to the store thinking I had it disconnected
>>30242929
Came in prepped to suggest Nissan frontier, but really both are fairly equivalent. Would recommend either.
>>30242929
'01 Tacoma owner here, can confirm. That truck is rock solid, the only problems I'm having are a persistent rattle in the exhaust and I need to get around to replacing the valve cover gaskets.
Doesn't do as well with trailers though. Plus the 3.4 gets some shitty mileage.
>>30243612
>>30243606
>>30243606
>>30243612
>>30243763
From what I see there is some burn damage that may invole the wires being damaged as well. Why is the hose disconnected again?
All these modern mommy mobiles with modern conveniences like power steering and brakes that work. You're going soft, I tell you.
>>30243817
>dat Geo Metro
>>30243763
Yeah, you're gonna need a tps and the pigtail for that connector, that shit is hosed.
>>30243831
Don't be knockin' the 1.0. Easily the best $900 I ever spent. In the almost decade I've owned it it has never had one issue. It is a beast in the snow, too.
>>30243802
The hose is only disconnected because it won't run if it is connected
>>30243849
Well shit, Lol. I just bought that one. Good thing they're cheap as hell. Mine was like 30 bucks, and my local O'Rileys is managed by one of my redneck buddies so I bet I'll be able to get one for free because it's under warranty
>>30243857
I'm just kidding, cheap compacts are cool in their own way. Anyway, what engines do those trucks have? 460s? Any experience with swapping Ford engines? I have a 1987 Lincoln TC and I want to put a 351 Windsor in it
>>30242876
OP reminded me that I want a Subaru Baja.
>>30243934
How embarrassing of a dream car.
Just kidding, my dream car is an '85 K5 Blazer
>>30243857
if you bring 2 friends you'll each have your own cylinder
>>30243903
The grey '77 F-150 has a 351M, the Bronco has a 302 and the blue and white '68 F250 has a 390.
I haven't done much with fuel injected stuff other than routine maintenance and several engine swaps for identical engines. I do know the later 5.0 and 351W had much in common and swaps between the two are quite common. I'm sure there is a how-to out there that details what you'll need to complete the swap.
>>30244018
I'm probably going to be switching to carburetor since 351W fuel injected intakes are very expensive and TBI is lame
>>30243988
The engine is so small that during the winter I can put the car and neutral at the top of a large hill and by the bottom of the hill the temperature gauge is almost back to cold again. I need to put a thick piece of cardboard in front of the radiator just to get any heat in the cabin from the heater.
Its not all bad. it fits in any parking space and I once drove 270 miles on $12.11.
If you ever get one, the giant Fram XG8A that usually goes on the big older Fords fits right on the tiny 1.0 and gives you almost a whole extra quart of oil capacity along with insane oil filtering capacity compared to the thimble sized stock one. I run that filter along with Rotella T6 5W-40 synthetic and it runs smooth and quiet.
>>30244108
Thats what I like to hear. I need a bigger filter for my truck... I normally have magnets on mine as well.
>>30244169
I put a rare earth magnet right next to my oil drain plug. When it comes time for an oil change I just take off the magnet and remove the plug. Any ferrous metal it has manged to capture will just drain out with the old oil.
>>30244228
Im pretty sure my Cherokee has a magnet on the drain plug itself.. my Ford doesn't. Either way magnets I think are a great way to keep fluids clean.
>>30242960
Thats not why they're cheaper m8.
>>30244341
Magnetic drain plugs can be bought at just about any parts store for a few bucks. A worthwhile addition to pretty much any vehicle that might not already have one. Don't be scared when you pull it out to see some metal stuck to it. Pretty much any engine will produce a little.
>>30243231
Pick up a Hayne's manual for your specific cars. I learned how to take care of mine that way when I was 15
Many do not know about this vehicle but it is definitely a solid vehicle.
I have a 2005 Mitsubishi Endeavor and that thing is a beast.
Extremely comfortable on the inside with plenty of cargo space (76.4 cu. ft) packed into a mid sized frame. I can pack all my camping gear, kitchen and climbing gear inside without even having to secure things on the roof.
Awd handles mud, snow, dirt like a god damn champ. The only time I've gotten stuck was because I was being a fucking retard but she'll handle most terrain you throw at her.
Decent fuel economy, I usually average 21mpg coupled with its 21.4 gallon capacity let's me drive close to 450 miles in one tank.
Handles superbly with its robust suspension yet comfortable enough to enjoy cruising with.
I got it new and since then the only stuff that has failed me are some comfort electronics but mechanically I've never had any trouble with it. Also the large engine bay makes it very easy to self service.
Honestly I don't know why the endeavors never picked up. I always get compliments on my endeavor. If Mitsubishi reintroduced the endeavor and kept true to its origins, you bet your ass I'll be buying one.
10/10 would definitely buy again
>>30242929
Too bad a lot of them are really overpriced, but I guess the market demands it.
>>30242876
>I would like for it to be /k/ related and reasonably built
they don't sell the Hilux in America anymore but there's the Tacoma I guess
>>30245000
Fucking Chads
>reee
>>30244752
Drove one of those fucks in Iraq a couple times. I'd get one but what do for parts?
>>30244752
>General Safety
>Modern comforts
>>30242876
>Snow
Lol
>Mountains
Made for that shit
>General safety
Do airbags and a roll cage count?
>ability to take deer with minimal deformation or damage
In mine I've hit: A giant fucking boar, a deer, and a cow. Grill guards lol
>Some modern comforts
Umm, it has a radio and air conditioning ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>30245180
>>30245253
>100 horsepower 4 cylinder
>>30243282
How do the rodeos stack up to those?
>>30244563
then why?
Manuel or automatic? which is it /k/
>>30242876
Subaru Outback. Plenty of room, decent on mileage, reliable (don't let shills tell you otherwise, subarus have their issues like any other car but they are, in general, very reliable), and AWD that will get one of these to places it had no right getting to. Look up videos of outbacks off-roading on YouTube if you like.
>>30242876
>fifth time in its life time I have had failure to start the engine
that's not a reason to scrap a car since it's entirely fixable
But yeah, your vehicles old
2005 and newer vehicles are fuck ugly
>>30245000
What's the difference anyway?
>>30245462
>>30245237
Those are fucking shit worst vehicle they make
>>30243182
>posting memes
My family has driven Fords for 40 years+ and has never replaced a head gasket
>>30245462
5 speed is only speed
4 speeds are for muscle cars
3 speeds are for fudds
6 speeds are for gays
>>30245488
I seen the video of one going up a very steep muddy hill with fucking street tires like it was nothing if i get a new suv that would defiantly be what i'm getting
>>30245518
That's because the dealer does it, dummy
>>30245531
are automatics really that bad?
>>30245534
It amazes me what those stupid things are able to handle. My parents bought a 2016 Forester a few months back so I went and checked out some videos of it off-roading and there was one of it driving in like 2-3 foot deep snow with no issues. Uphill.
>>30245536
>>>/Yurop/
>>30245531
I'v never drove a Manuel but i plan on getting one soon is it hard? can i learn to drive it on the way back or what?
>>30245542
You lose a lot of power to the wheels
Manuals give better gas mileage, more power, and more control, AND don't burn themselves out when towing
New DCT automatics are just automatic manuals so they've merged the two, but DCT is for windowlickers
why don't they make Manuel trucks any more?
>>30242876
get a isuzu there great
>>30245555
>is it hard
Nope
>can i learn to drive it on the way back
Nope
You'll need time to practice because you'll want to jump off the clutch when you panic because it starts jumping, but you actually want to stomp the clutch to prevent it from killing the engine
You have to learn to feel for the grey area with your foot
I originally learned on a motorcycle, so my only real challenge was getting my left leg enough finesse to let off the clutch smoothly
All vehicles are different though and you have to essentially relearn each one you hop in, but it will never be as hard as when you first started
I really wouldn't recommend learning trying to drive it home
You'll probably forget to take it out of gear coming up to a stop and rear end someone
>>30245570
They do
You can get them as options, but I'm betting you'd have to redesign the interior for it
>tfw center consoles are ruining vehicles
>tfw my kids will never know what a bench seat is
And it's Manual
Manuel is a Mexican man
>>30245555
>>30245570
No sé.
>all of these Europoors suggesting Nissan, Toyota, Isuzu, and Jeep
Confirmed for having driven your vehicles for less than 50,000 miles
Have fun with that part cost when you have to replace ANY part or when the wiring goes bad on your Jeep
>>30245548
I'm American m8
>>30245580
so i should learn to drive it off road or somewhere empty? how long does it take the learn? i plan on driving half weigh across the country
>>30245585
barley though
>tfw no Manuel tundra
>>30245598
And I'm suggesting you go back to Yurop where every car snob shitposter is from
>>30245595
All of those are great besides the jeep you faggot and i'm A American
>>30242929
Terrible idea if you live in a place where they use salt on the roads. Only viable inna cat box. Look up toyota tacoma recall
>>30242876
>west virginia
i feel sorry for you
>>30245599
>so i should learn to drive it off road
Do it in an empty parking lot
>how long does it take the learn?
I would recommend watching a video to understand the concept and have someone who knows how to drive one in the car with you
Actual learning time depends on your dexterity modifier
If you've got an innate class bonus, you'll learn it much quicker
>:^)
>i plan on driving half weigh across the country
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yeah don't, you'll burn up that clutch before you even make it home
Or possibly your throw out bearing
>>30245611
Yeah, great for the parts guy who's charging you $400 for a tail light or $80 for a fucking valve cover gasket
>>30245621
>yeah don't
how long would it take to get good enough really
>>30245613
>corrosion and stress could cause one of the three or four leaves in the rear suspension's leaf springs to fracture
Holy fuck what kind of shitty ass cost cutting material could they have made possibly the most important suspension part of a vehicle out of to make that happen?
>>30245637
I would give it at least a week of every day driving
And even then I probably wouldn't take it across the country
You'll burn up the clutch if you try to start on a hill or you'll roll back into someone
I'd look around a month desu family before I'd suggest a total noob go across the country through different terrain in one
>>30245644
alright i hope i don't fuck up
>>30245653
why are you buying it before you go cross country anyway?
Manuals are a different beast and require different maintenance than an automatic
Don't you have a car you could use to go across the country and then buy one when you get where you're going?
Also, what vehicle are you looking at
>inb4 Civic or Subaru Impreza
>>30245629
You pretty much proved that you know nothing about cars
>>30245662
A toyota or maybe a isuzu i don't have anything myself right now so yeah
>>30245669
The Nissan Murano when it first came out had a tail light that cost $400 to buy
Foreign cars have much higher maintenance costs than domestic ones
This is across the board
>b-but foreign cars are made here!!!!
Doesn't change the fact that my moms Toyota Corrola has asinine part prices
>>30245678
Why in the hell are you looking to buy a manual as your first car in a vehicle that doesn't benefit from it
>>30245691
What? i thought all vehicles benefited from it. what benefits and what doesn't?
>>30245719
all vehicles benefit from it, but you won't really notice a difference or have any particular reason for it unless you either have A) a fast car or B) something to haul
Those vehicles are fairly slow and don't have very strong engines
Granted a weaker engine will do better towing with a manual transmission, but getting a manual in those options is more of a preference thing over a true upgrade
Get what you want, but I really think you're making a bad decision if you've never driven before and plan on going cross country
>>30242876
I nabbed this 2006 5.3L Z71 with 95k on the odometer for $13.8k in 2013. Leather heated seats, Bose stereo, dual climate control, flawless push button 4x4, it kicks ass in every environment except unpacked sand, but if I hit it hard enough I float through it. Only thing I've replaced in 3 years was one exhaust manifold gasket because I ran it straight piped.
It's currently at 136k and I'm about to drive it to El Paso to hike Big Bend.
>>30245726
i don't know i guess i'll go to /o/ and ask
>>30245730
Z71 isn't a model
It's a suspension package
>>30245736
>i guess i'll go to /o/ and ask
If you want to be given suggestions by yuropoors with no practical experience
The equivalent of /o/ is like F35 and other jet threads
It's entirely filled with people who've had no closer contact with the object at hand than articles they read online
Hell, they shit on the ZX2 even though it's fast, economical, tight controlling, cheap, long lasting car ONLY because the Yuro version of the Escort sucked ass and they instinctively shit on US cars
>>30245756
oh alright thanks
>>30245726
By the way i will probably do a little offroading will that make a difference?
>>30245772
manuals are a much better offroading option, but I would look into something specifically for it like a truck or off roading specific SUV
I don't like foreign cars very much, especially when actual use is involved, but the Xterra is a damn nice vehicle for it and if you can find a 5 speed version, buy it immediately and sell it to me because they're unobtanium
>>30245739
It's not even a good suspension package desu, aside from the skid plate. I want to swap in some new Bilsteins. But it's generally referred to as a trim package where I am over the usual LS/LT series because the Z71 has more "useful trim" than the LS/LT packages. Sorry if I was misleading.
>>30245787
>It's not even a good suspension package
It is for a factory upgrade compared to what they normally have
>I want to swap in some new Bilsteins
Why?
>>30245794
>It is for a factory upgrade compared to what they normally have
I won't try to argue that and it's still a better upgrade for the half tons of that era than Dodge or Ford but it's still not THAT great.
>Why?
I am due to replace them and I'd rather use 5100's than OEM. I did the brakes and transmission last year, suspension is next. I beat the shit out of this truck and want it to last to 200k.
>>30245824
>THAT great.
Never said it was, but you're talking stock factory senpai
It's a pretty good option when you're talking factory stock is shit in just about ANY vehicle
Of course aftermarket is going to way outperform it
>I did the brakes and transmission last year,
>want it to last to 200k.
>transmission
>not even at 200k
Dude
>>30245838
It was a preemptive strike. I have access to free parts through a family member with a junkyard. The tranny was good but I swapped it anyways, the brakes however had gone to complete shit.
>>30245854
>The tranny was good but I swapped it anyways
That...seems unnecessary but I guess if you have spare time
>the brakes however had gone to complete shit.
meh, that's maintenance on all cars
not even really a major thing
>>30245882
Spare time is something I've got too much of. I've been painting my guns indiscriminately and am currently starting a small zucchini farm.
Are 4x4 half ton pickups /k/ despite the shit mileage? Or did everybody realize Tacoma a best?
>>30245956
>Are 4x4 half ton pickups
4x4 is the only /k/ option and why the fuck would you get a truck that's under a half ton that isn't a Ranger
>>30245992
>ranger
tacoma is much much better
>>30246023
other than the interior being shitty and uncomfortable, the engine expensive to maintenance, and the rear end being about as strong as a 4 year old's wrist
>>30246032
nice meme
>>30246032
The older toyota trucks are way better
>>30246038
Ford has objectively the strongest diffs you'll ever find in a truck
>>30246059
I will agree that old Toyota trucks were breddy good for small trucks
My grandfather has one that just keeps going
OP here. Thank you all so much. This gives me a decent list to go through and see what is in my area.
>>30242876
Fuck that anon, look for surplus APCs and shit, then you can visit the hood with no worries!
This is /k/. You need a Lada Niva, komrade.
>>30242876
Suzuki Jimny
>being a fag who gets a truck as a non-work vehicle
reminder: its always coupes and sedans that break Pikes Peak records and win snowy rallies, not trucks. get a Lancer and lots of RACE stickers.
but seriously, get a FWD or AWD coupe or sedan. Trucks are a meme for snow, all that power don't mean shit when it just slides around, is too heavy to brake on ice, and has a suspension made of jello.
t. canadian
>>30247898
Don't listen to this Euro-Lite maplenigger.
Get yourself a FORD F950 CREW CAB FREEDOM EDITION with the optional 18.5L V18 engine
>>30243283
do the stickers make it faster?
>>30247924
I know you're like 1/18th joking but srsly everyone up here gets Outback wagons and Audi's for a reason. And Echos. shitloads of Echos.
(inb4 that photo of a dumpster with the Audi logo spray painted on it w a skull blower shopped on top)
(please someone post that photo)
>>30247964
I'm from Oklahoma, so literally everyone has a truck.
When I moved up North for awhile I quickly learned why everyone used AWD.
>>30247955
yes. get blue neons for enhanced turbo intercooler performance too
>>30247898
>its always coupes and sedans that break Pikes Peak records and win snowy rallies
>ONLY THINGS WITH GOOD TURNING AND LOW CENTER OF GRAVITY WIN TIGHT FAST RACES
o rly who knew
>Trucks are a meme for snow
>HURR PEOPLE WITH TRUCKS HAVE SMALL DICKS
This is you at some point in your life
>is too heavy to brake on ice
You have no idea how ice traction works
Like, at all
>and has a suspension made of jello.
Are you literally retarded?
>>30247974
Aren't most modern trucks RWD
unless you are an Italian rally driver, I don't think you want that
and even then that shit better be mid engined
>>30247964
>I know you're like 1/18th joking but srsly everyone up here gets Outback wagons and Audi's for a reason.
That reason being that American vehicles are incredibly expensive there and Subarus AREN'T
But you dumb fuckers don't give a shit about having to replace tires because those are expensive as fuck too
>>30247974
Optional 4WD > AWD
>>30247995
>Aren't most modern trucks RWD
>talks about vehicles
>knows literally nothing about them
Holy shit fucking drown yourself in syrup, faggot
>>30247978
>HURR PEOPLE WITH TRUCKS HAVE SMALL DICKS
>This is you at some point in your life
wow man you are really offended by facts about traction and center of gravity I think you should look at some pictures of angry ute to calm down
>>30248016
>everyone is going to be racing so they should always buy vehicle designed for it
>no one would ever haul a trailer or boat or anything else that requires a truck
>WHY DO YOU EVEN NEEEEED A TRUCK
>JUST MAKE TWO TRIPS WHEN YOU NEED TO CARRY THAT MUCH STUFF
>YOURE JUST HURTING THE ENVIRONMENT
~u
>recommend getting a good car instead of a meme truck
>americunts flip out
I bet /o/ told you the same thing and you cried just as hard lmao
get a bus pass :^)
>>30242876
>it snows a shit ton and sliding off the road is inevitable, I need to survive that. Hitting a deer is inevitable
have you considered learning to drive
>>30248078
>not replying to make yourself seem cool and get hypefags
Yeah, okay
No one ever said he had to get a truck, faggot
You're the one who shit on them without knowing a damn thing about cars
And /o/ is filled with a bunch of faggot yuropoors who don't own anything nice to justify a truck so they have to increase the size of their e-peen by shitting on them
It's purely sour grapes
see>>30245756
1990 ford bronco 2. Yours for the low low price of $2300.
>>30248091
If you've never gone in the ditch, you've never driven in snow for a meaningful amount of time
If you think you can always avoid deer, you're retarded
>>30248105
Big engine or little engine
>>30248098
I'm saying don't get a truck because op will be slipping and sliding all over on the snow and ice
centers of gravity and inertia and momentum are things. and op apparently can't drive anyway
a truck seems genuinely unsuited to his needs as a bad driver in snow. an AWD sedan or wagon would be better for him than a trukk
no one is "shitting on trucks" as a whole outside of your paranoid mad burger fantasies, clapper
>>30248119
6 cylinder
>>30248108
m8 you are just shit at driving, plenty of snowniggers go their whole lives without going off cliffs or creaming moose
>guys I keep shooting myself in the foot, what gun should I get??
Literally only a tracked vehicle can brave snow. get a snowmobile.
>>30248144
>op will be slipping and sliding all over on the snow and ice
Unless he puts it in 4 wheel like he's supposed to
>centers of gravity and inertia and momentum are things
That only matter when you're cornering hard
i.e. racing
>a truck seems genuinely unsuited to his needs as a bad driver in snow. an AWD sedan or wagon would be better for him than a trukk
See above
>no one is "shitting on trucks" as a whole outside of your paranoid mad burger fantasies, clapper
>>being a fag who gets a truck as a non-work vehicle
If you've never owned a trailer, 4 wheeler, motorcycle, or done anything that requires a truck, or ever hauled anything that won't fit in a car, you're not qualified to speak about what others should and shouldn't get
Have fun bringing home rebar or 2x4s in your Subaru Fagback
>>30248152
>not the 454
Shit
>>30248184
There are no cliffs by me and moose aren't what you're worried about
Deer come running at 30 miles an hour out of the woods and you don't see them until you hit them
Again, you've never driven in snow or around high deer population areas for any meaningful time
Where I live, it's a given that you'll likely hit deer at some point
>>30245503
as I've heard it the Tacoma is engineered more to give a smoother ride on roads whereas the Hilux is an all around tough truck
>>30248286
the Tacoma is just a heavy grocery hauler as far as trucks go
>lightly sprung
>tiny engine
>weak drivetrain
>>30248262
>wahhh wahhh everyone hits deer all the time
>2016
>not having deer whistles
What the fuck? Are you literally 18 years old looking for your first big boy car?
>where I live its basically a given that we're gonna get drunk crash and fuck our sisters
Its obvious OP
>>30248475
>>wahhh wahhh everyone hits deer all the time
>>CURRENT YEAR
>>thinking deer whistles work
I've used them
Still hit a deer
Took them off
Keep cryin bitch nigga
>cityfags who've never been in a deer infested area
We literally have road crews specifically dedicated to deer removal and they go out all day every day
Get an old Chevy CUCV
>>30248622
>Wanting a CuckV
>>30242929
Hilux
>>30249678
>>>/Yurop/
Gets the job done.
Personally I would like a Jeep Renegade
>inb4 Italian Chrysler vehicle.
Its smol, can offroad with some tweaks, has good mpg, and people are actually buying them; making the market for spare parts and aftermarket grow.
>>30248541
>acts like he's some special snowflake because he has deer and road crews in his area
You're not special... You're just stupid.
We've had moose strikes on the interstate in my state, you southern fuckers should take your dicks out of your cousins/aunts/mothers/sisters/dogs pussy and look north for some real animals.
Deer whistles work great when you do your part and do at last 35 while watching for the deer that's about to run because it hears an ultrasonic whistle.
>>30251051
>you southern fuckers
Nice conjecture
>and do at last 35
My interstates are 70, I'm not driving 35 for 3 hours just to say that HURR IMMA GUD DRIVER
You're that faggot with out of state plates driving 10 miles an hour down a road because there's road construction
>>30250334
Sadly, these are the only "4x4"s with a stick I can even find nowadays.
>>30251718
Stick is kinda dead, automatic and semiautomatic is becoming better and better. Which is okay with me to a degree.
>>30242876
>>ability to take a deer with minimal deformation or damage
Unless you have a massive brush guard installed that is impossible. My step father hit a deer at 60 mph and totaled his F-150. Totally crushed the front, crumpled the hood, destroyed the radiator, headlights etc.
>>30250334
i loved this car but when i saw the specs it put me off
>~180 hp
>3500+LBS
>low to mid 20mpg depending on model
>>30251786
DCT is the only thing that even comes close to automatics in power transfer and towing abilities
>>30251804
get an old one
My 91 K2500 hit 2 deer in it's life and the only damage was a slightly dented fender and hood and a cracked grill
>>30251786
Manual transmissions are much simpler. There is far less to go wrong. I will always prefer manual simply because there is like 10% as many parts in a manual compared to an automatic. And semi-automatic is just a problem waiting to happen.
I don't see a semi-automatic being reliable when it is 10 years old. I imagine it being a absolute maintenance nightmare.
>>30251812
The thing is capable. Its the replacement for the Samuri the world needed in the small offroader market.
Also you can blame CAFE for it not being more powerful.
Maybe Nissan and its 3 pot 400hp beast can be swapped into it
>>30251804
These do on a regular basis
>>30251826
The speed involved matters. Simply hitting a deer is meaningless.
INB4 you say you were going 70mph. Which is bullshit.
>>30250334
Can't lift it or put bigger tires.
Shit new uni body construction
>>30251827
>There is far less to go wrong
This implies that automatic transmission DO go wrong often enough to make a difference
The likelihood of you having to replace a throw out bearing, clutch, bearings, or syncros puts both styles in the same boat
>>30251840
I was doing 55 when I hit the first one
The other one was before I bought it
You really think trucks are built the same today as they were 25 years ago?
That truck weighed a hell of a lot more than they do now and had a much stronger frame and body
>>30243119
If only they kept making them.
2000+ Comanche would make me diamond hard.
It just wasnt to be :(
>>30251851
You can lift and put bigger tires you tard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFC3ZeKHldI
>>30243182
My 250K plus sport trac, was Killed by a 87 olds cutlass.
>>30245488
Looking it all over, and based on cost, handling, ability, efficiency, speed, trail ability, storage space. It is down to an outback or forester. Fuck it. A truck is not what I need or what is reasonable price wise, or handling wise in the mountains. It seems fucking built for what I need and has what I want in a vehicle. I'll get a light trailer and a roof basket. Thanks to all of you for your contributions into this.
>guess I Canadian now
>>30251827
>10%
No. Also I wouldn't say a manual is much simpler than an automatic, only major technical variable between the two is the gear set used. A traditional manual uses standard gears and clutches an automatic uses planetary gear sets which is why automatics are almost always only available in multiples of 2 gears (2,4,6,8,10...).
P.S. Dual clutch automatics are different than both traditional manuals and automatics.
>>30251897
1.5 inch spacer lift that's pushing drive line geometry......
It's not a real lift. It has the same style suspension as the new Cherokees Jeep had to completly redesign engine and radiator mounts for a 3 inch lift concept Jeep. It's not liftable in stock form at all.
>>30251975
>only major technical variable between the two is the gear set used.
And the fluid pumps
And the torque converter
>>30251975
>only major technical variable between the two is the gear set used
Except, ya know, the one major thing that makes automatic transmissions work you fucking moron
>>30243231
1) You tube
2) library computer (all data, chiltons)
3) books ( those hard things with words in them.)
>>30252034
>>30252005
Torque converter is its own part, not technically the actual transmission.
>>30243231
check the oil at 3000 miles, if it's pitch black, change every 3000
If it's not super deep pitch black, change every 5000
If it's still amber at 5000, use synthetic oil and change at 8000
Grease your zerks at every oil change
If you feel any pulling, jack the car up and wiggle the tires side to side and top to bottom and feel for play
Wherever the play is coming from is what's worn out
Youtube will have a lot of it
>>30252073
>>30251112
>do at least 35, meaning the deer whistles only work above 35
>somehow comprehends that as don't drive over 35
Wow you really are a stupid motherfucker.
>>30252089
You're the guy who doesn't live in a deer infested area, cumdumpster
deer whistles don't fucking work here because they're used to humans
>>30252088
So by your logic the engine and wheels are also the transmission because they are all attached.
>>30248091
you haven't been in wv the roads are shit there and theres twice as much deer as any other state
>>30252134
That /o/ yuro garbage chart is ass
The complete lack of Taurus and Escorts means it's just a bunch of pretentious fags
they recommend a fucking Dodge Neon for a cheap car, but not the escort
Just goes to show how fucking dumb they are when it comes to cars
>>30252128
>cumdumpster
I have seen, in the heat of argument, a man called a hoagie. But that is just silly.
>>30252144
No other transmission style has a torque converter on the car, therefore it is an automatic transmission specific component because it cannot go bad on a manual transmission
>>30252128
You're the one that can't comprehend how a deer whistle or basic English works.
>oh they're used to humans, there's so many deer in my area I see them daily
Then why haven't you learned to avoid them?
>still have not once said where I live, not even state
Willing to bet $50 my states record buck outclasses OP inbred shit
>>30252165
I don't know why I'm laughing so hard
>>30252177
>Then why haven't you learned to avoid them?
>you see cars literally every day, why haven't you learned to avoid them
Not even that guy but man you're a fucking moron
>Willing to bet $50 my states record buck outclasses OP inbred shit
>size of deer making a damn bit of difference
okay, Iowafag
>>30252172
I think they put torque converters on various types of off road sport vehicles to buffer the engine and transmission regardless of the actual transmission type.
>>30252183
It is entirely the same setup in horsepower, torque, and is sprung exactly the same as a Ranger and is more expensive
Tacomas are a faggoty millenial meme
>>30252211
A manual transmission literally could not work with a torque converter
Well it could but it would be entirely fucking pointless
>>30252211
just learn clutch control
a torque converter is simply what transfers the output shaft power to the transmission vs a clutch
one uses liquid, one uses friction plates
>>30252229
Better than blowing an engine during a race when you hit a rock or hole
>>30252239
That wears your clutch plates
>>30252262
It doesn't work like that you simpleton
>>30252199
But I have learned to avoid them, I drive past cars every day without getting into an accident.
>Maine
>335lb, taken 1955 before the B&C cock measuring system
My state has been producing monster white tails before you assholes learned what a food plot was. Please try to tell me how to drive in the snowey woods, West Virginia is such an arctic tundra I don't know how OP does it.
RANGER
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inb4 buy a taco
>not buying an American truck
>not buying a ford
>buying some shitty nipmobile
>ISHYGDDT
>>30252324
Tacos are just better overall senpai
>>30252219
nice meme
>>30252262
>he doesn't know what torque ratings are
>he doesn't know how to match the proper clutch to the torque of the engine
Clutches are designed to slip when caught suddenly like that, faggot
>>30252285
You will always wear clutch plates through use
>>30252322
>But I have learned to avoid them, I drive past cars every day without getting into an accident.
The next dumbass to respond to this trolling faggot is getting a big steaming pile of shit airmailed to their door
>>30245488
>decent on mileage,
I love subies, so don't get me wrong, but never ever post this lie again. Subaru is terrible on gas mileage for what it is. Sure it's better than like a 3/4 ton truck, but as a wagon? It's bad.
>>30252348
other than putting out the same power with a weaker drivetrain
>>30252367
well memed
>>30245719
Let's dispense with some of the memery that's been thrown your way:
>better gas mileage
Debatable on some vehicles and depends entirely on you both knowing HOW to shift for better gas mileage and actually doing it
>better for towing
This is pretty well true. It lets you shift in anticipation of upcoming features like curves and hills.
>lose a lot of power to the wheels
Varies based on the engine and drivetrain, in most cases it's a non-issue though, especially for a daily driver
>more control
Depending on the design of the transmission in question, this goes from being kinda almost true to being you're fucking smoking crack and lying out of your ass, but it's also an additional level of control that in most every situation is at best marginal, and at worse splitting your attention between further from other driving tasks that need to take place at that moment because you insisted on controlling something a computer can control faster and more accurately than you.
For stuff like daily, commuter driving manual transmission is little more than a fetish.
>>30245787
It is a trim package. The name "z71" is its serial identifier in their inventory control system...same for all z designations.
>>30252402
I don't see Ford make Rangers still.
>>30247898
As a Southerner who transplanted to the frozen north for work, let me say this:
You northern fucks have no clue what driving on ICE is. Compacted snow is not ice.
>>30247995
RWD is easy as fuck on snow and ice. Just don't jump into the gas or on the brakes as well as don't accelerate too quickly and you're good.
>>30252580
>Debatable on some vehicles and depends entirely on you both knowing HOW to shift for better gas mileage and actually doing it
More power transfer to the wheels means less engine usage to get the same speed
But yes, if you can't drive a manual for shit, you'll probably get the same
>Varies based on the engine and drivetrain, in most cases it's a non-issue though, especially for a daily driver
For a daily driver, no, but a car wiht an auto will objectively have a lower whp rating than a manual will
>Depending on the design of the transmission in question, this goes from being kinda almost true to being you're fucking smoking crack and lying out of your ass
You just admitted above that it entirely gives you more control
here
>It lets you shift in anticipation of upcoming features like curves and hills.
>because you insisted on controlling something a computer can control faster and more accurately than you.
Confirmed for never having driven a manual ever
I can shift faster than 99% of automatics on the road and it doesn't take any attention away from the road when you're used to it
>>30252632
and?
Buy an old one
Fords probably going to bring back the Ranger because it was stupid to discontinue it
They just wanted a reason to move the plant to Mexico
>>30252640
this so damn much
>>30252664
>RWD is easy as fuck on snow and ice
yeah no
Snow is one thing but if you have to go up a hill and need to give it extra gas to prevent yourself from not making it up it, it will immediately spin out
>done it before
>inb4 YOU STOMPED THE GAS
>>30252640
>you get snow but you don't get ice, they're too entirely separate entities and only occur on road surfaces below the mason Dixon line
...
>>30252324
Ford mechanic here.
Rangers were mediocre for most of their production run. 4.0L 4x4s in the late '90s-mid '00s are the only decent ones, and even they had shit transmissions. I'd go for a Tacoma any day over a Ranger. However, Toyota's 1/4 ton trucks had some model years that were real stinkers too, like some in the T100 era.
>>30252324
>>not buying an American truck
Literally no vehicle is fully made in America. Supply pipelines are global and I'm not being some jerkoff twisting words around because "muh iron ore was mined in ironmineistan". Significant components of *every* vehicle come from overseas. A Tacoma or Tundra is literally just as "American" as a Ranger or F150.
>>not buying a ford
Fuck Detroit. Almost my entire life they've pumped out shitty, disposable vehicles all while jacking up the price. Should have let all of them fucking crumble.
>>30252671
>You just admitted above that it entirely gives you more control
>here
You're aware that most vehicles with automatic transmissions let you still select your maximum gear, right?
>>30252733
Congrats on missing the point
not even that guy
>>30252694
>Not buying American
>They wanted an excuse to move to Mexico
Yep...
>>30252756
My family has owned 3 rangers
One being from the 80s, the second being late 90s and the last being a 2004
They all ran great
Same goes for my 2 friends who own newer Rangers as well
I've never heard of these transmission problems before
Can you elaborate?
>>30252767
>Almost my entire life they've pumped out shitty, disposable vehicles all while jacking up the price.
>and no other car maker has
>>30252802
uh what?
