>>30227408

>da jews

in 3,2,1...

>>30227408
Jesus Christ imagine how long and intricate that kind of sleeper cell plot must of taken, seems kinda insanely genius
>spend decades making agents work their way up the DoD ladder
>make them seemingly get weaker by pushing new policies and shit that op said
>turn the military into a pushover

>>30227438
You need to watch the yuri besmenov interview....

>>30227408
It's out in the open

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qlpODYhnPEo

>>30227408
no this is the just the erosion of america, and the erosion of practical reasoning and common sense, it is all caused by the liberal progressives socialist agenda

>>30227408
>LGBT
Have you not paid attention to gay rights for the last 20 years? The military is not immune to public opinion.

>new carriers
Carriers get old. By law the navy has to have a certain amount. The Ford class is a notable improvement over the Nimitz, and the future of EMALS is very bright.

>new bombers
The B-21 is just a B2 that takes advantage of new tech since the 90's. Reminder that the B-2s are the most expensive tool in the AF's toy box. The B-21 is intended to be cheaper.

>Zumwalt's
Seems under gunned NOW but was designed with future stuff in mind. We will have to see its performance once it gets rail guns and lasers and stuff.

>Abrams replacement
The original plan for the Abrams is being followed (a long term tank). It's performance in the gulf war further ensured it was respected and battle-proven. It does its job well, and US doctrine means any tank offensive would likely be supported with a shitton of apaches and fighters, which eat tanks for breakfast. It's slated to be in service till 2050. It's next big upgrade will likely be APS in some way.

>F-35
The US, meme or not, has strongly been convinced of the utility of stealth. The F117 went on hundreds and even thousands of sorties with only one shot down. The F-35 also combines the logistical needs of three branches and several US allies into one general-purpose stealth plane. The idea is that if everyone buys the stealth plane it will be cheaper and be a significant upgrade of NATO at large. The B variant promises to make ski-jump carriers much more relevant by ensuring the F-35B would still have an appreciable payload compared to normal ski-launched craft. This is perfect for say the Brits.


I'm sure foreign spies ARE in the DoD, but that's normal espionage. But a lot of this is exaggerated, and some of it is "business as usual", and the gay thing is cultural inertia that has been in the works since the 90s at least.

>>30227479
/thread.

>>30227479
>>30227408

I missed ABM

>ABM
Our anti ballistic missile tech was stymied by two things: sheer cost (you are spending a fortune to shoot down their nuke, which means you would need pretty much as many ABM missiles as they have ICBMs.

The second has to do with deals made during the Cold War. America and the soviets agreed not to start fielding ABM stuff against one another, lest the power balance be radically altered. US has quietly pursued this tech anyway in alternate goals against Iran and North Korea. The Russians have been pissed due to proposed ABM expansion in Europe, which they feel is an extremely aggressive move since it disrupts nuclear deterrence, which is basically all they have left.

Imagine you and your neighbor have a glawk fortay problem solver each. You don't like each other, but that's all you have. It's been that way for years. But then one day the other guy shows up in a Level 4 carrier in full battle rattle complete with kevlar greaves, groid guard, neck guard, shoulder pads, thigh pads, and a full face helmet/mask. They still have a Glock, but now yours is useless. Why wouldn't your neighbor shoot you now that you can't really do anything back?

That's the future Russia fears, that we will be able to strike them with impunity.

We've quietly expanded our ABM tech, but we aren't immune to existing deals, finance, or the fact that it is disruptive

>>30227408
>ABM technology not being used fully
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>30227408
Upvoted. Xpost to /r/creepy naw.

>>30227438
dude, have you read some of the stories of KGB spies who were to operate on US soil?

oftentimes, they were simply provided fake entry papers/a fake identity and then told "ok, now go apply at the CIA, get a job and pass us anything cool you hear".

espionage is fucking brutally insane.

>>30227706
Fun fact, one of the CIAs most successful missions was collecting trash thrown out by soviet officers. You would be shocked how much intel was carelessly tossed in bins or haphazardly shredded.

HUMINT is a very absurd business at times.

>>30227523
Dude
We're not going to nuke Russia for fun
That would be fucking retarded
Like, I can't even comprehend how retarded that would be

>>30227408
Lobbyists that work for major defense companies. Give a few millions and get a $50 billion contract to build some useless shit that doesn't even work.

>>30227408
>foreign agents
>thinking it's anything like that

It's 25% chinese/russian agents literally getting a job in the DoD and sending actual physical mail back over to their handlers, 50% lobbyists and idiots who can't even balance a checkbook but are in charge of massive defense projects, and 25% deliberate money leeching for black projects.

>>30227408
>I literally know nothing of what I talk of and I'm functionally retarded

We know, OP.

We know.

>>30227523
>This stupidity.

Please treat your stupidity with a gun blowjob.

>Our anti ballistic missile tech was stymied by two things: sheer cost (you are spending a fortune to shoot down their nuke, which means you would need pretty much as many ABM missiles as they have ICBMs.

It's a midpoint defence system, it negates the ABM missile multiplier found when terminal ABM systems engage MIRV'ed missiles

>The second has to do with deals made during the Cold War. America and the soviets agreed not to start fielding ABM stuff against one another, lest the power balance be radically altered. US has quietly pursued this tech anyway in alternate goals against Iran and North Korea. The Russians have been pissed due to proposed ABM expansion in Europe, which they feel is an extremely aggressive move since it disrupts nuclear deterrence, which is basically all they have left.

The Russians pursued an AMB system and deployed it in the 60s... It's be replaced several times since then and is still operational. Not to mention the US's new system isn't in any way resistant to an attack from a proper nuclear nation: in Europe the missiles are in no way hardened against nuclear attack and could easily be dealt with by the Russians, in Alaska the silos are stacked right up next to each other meaning the whole field could be taken out by one or two weapons.

Neither pose a threat to Russian deterrence and would only work against rouge launches or two-bit nuclear powers.

tl;dr you're retarded.

If the Chinese or Russians were smart they wouldn't bother trying to infiltrate the DOD. Corporate lobbyists are the people who actually run DC.

>>30227994
The Russians literally claimed that the proposed ABM shield in Poland would be a hugely aggressive move that was designed to weaken their nuclear deterrent.

I never said ours never worked, but there are political considerations to employing and researching ABM technologies.

>>30228641
>>30227994

Also
>can only stop rogue launches

NOW. RIGHT NOW they can only do that. If put more efforts into it that could change, and stopping a major attack WOULD be destabilizing, as it ends the old logic of "nukes = safety" that many believe.

>>30228659
>If put more efforts into it that could change

The costs of increasing the capability of the system to where it could provide a defense against a Russian first strike would be about $1.8 Trillion
Per year.
For the next 14 years.
Thats about a third of the entire US federal budget.
Thats a lot of "more effort"