ITT: Most overrated guns of all time
>>30225043
Your favorite gun
/thread
>>30225065
>>30225049
>>30225053
>>30225043
>Not the AR-15, it's clones and the military variants
![c7a2-lsview[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/jEvLntM.png "c7a2-lsview[1].png")
ITT: We post our country's service rifle and call each other faggots
Any 1911 chambered in .45 ACP.
>>30225070
Don't be ridiculous
>>30225043
Anybody that doesn't think the Thompson is completely overrated has obviously never held one.
Literally the most uncomfortable gun of all time.
>>30225065
>AR-18
Are you fucking kidding me man? Nobody even adopted it. Its piston was kind of copied in several other designs. Thats underrated as fuck.
>>30225070
GTP was so offended he forgot to put on his trip.
>>30225043
K31. It was an unpopular fringe gun ten years ago that went for dirt cheap, and now they're a fucking meme.
>>30225053
My favorite gun is your favorite gun so according to you we both have shit taste.
>>30225081
Agreed.
> fucking heavy (it weights the same as an rpk-74)
>bolt carrier going forward fucks up accuracy
>cyclic rate is too high
>fixed firing pin
>fixed sights
>>30225106
>Don't need bullets, we'll blind the intruder.
>>30225080
>>30225095
It really is though
>>30225108
>fixed sights
No fixed sights on a M1928 Thompson
>>30225083
>designed for poorfag countries who wanted to make ar-15s but cant into milling
>tolerances are loose
>more small parts and pieces than an ar-15
>folding stock
>its ugly
Easily
>>30225138
>Folding stock
what's wrong with that? Literally a non issue.
>designed for poorfag countries who wanted to make ar-15s but cant into milling
Yet they never adopted it as a service rifle but utilized the short atroke piston system for indigenous designs.
>it's ugly
Your opinions are shit and will remain so
>>30225138
>>30225138
I don't think its ugly, I'd fuck an 18.
Other than that though I've never shot one pham, but I always had a soft spot for folding stocks. I would argue you could call it overrated if people actually used it though.
>>30225162
>what's wrong with that? Literally a non issue.
the pin breaks frequently and often so its basically worthless
>Yet they never adopted it as a service rifle but utilized the short atroke piston system for indigenous designs.
name one thats not some shittier knock off
>Your opinions are shit and will remain so
whatever makes you sleep at night
>>30225158
Gen2 G19 is actually my favorite block oddly enough.
>>30225108
>fucking heavy
(in an era of similarly heavy guns)
>bolt carrier going forward fucks up accuracy
This is fucking autism and you should just kill yourself rather than forcing anyone to explain why you are wrong
>cyclic rate is too high
this pretty subjective but perhaps one of the only real complaints in that merit
>>30225198
>the pin breaks frequently and often so its basically worthless
To be fair that a flaw of THAT folding stock, not every folding stock
>>30225198
SCAR
I'm not a fan of the the 36 but its still an example
Type 89
K-2
L-85 is kind of shitty too, but still noteable
I know there are a couple of other examples too I just cant recall right now.
>>30225235
G36*
>>30225219
Heavy as fuck compared to MP-40
Cyclic rate high as fuck compared to MP-40
Replaced by M-3 (aka MP-40)
Bolt carrier moving forward does fuck with accuracy. First-round hits are much harder with an open bolt gun because the fucker jumps before it shoots. Please shoot a gun before you post again.
>>30225219
Not him, but have you held one to feel how uncomfortable it is? This has nothing to do with the weight.
>>30225043
>>30225198
>the pin breaks frequently and often so its basically worthless
Replace them
>name one thats not some shittier knock off
L85A2, G36, Type 95/97, Type 03, Type 81, SCAR, K2
>inb4 SA80 unreliable meme
That was the A1
>>30225219
>(in an era of similarly heavy guns)
Yeah, except this is supposed to be a pistol caliber smg. It was literally the heaviest and not to mention bulkiest smg of WWII and thats a fact.
>This is fucking autism and you should just kill yourself rather than forcing anyone to explain why you are wrong
You have never fired a gun before and this is also a fact.
>>30225043
ITT: Guns I don't like but don't really have good reasons not to like so I'm just going to call them overrated.
>>30225227
except youre talking about the merits of that rifle not every other rifle you fucking cock sucking inbred shit stain on the fucking dirty unwiped asshole of your trailer park white trash communes homosexual overseer
>>30225256
Eh, maybe a little overrated, if it weren't for naziboos it'd be rated about right.
>>30225267
>Replace them
When this becomes a phenomenon among multiple ar-180 owners then you know you have a design flaw
>L85A2, G36, Type 95/97, Type 03, Type 81, SCAR, K2
Blah blah list a bunch of guns used by armies that dont actually shoot people. It would get abolsutely rekt if it was ever put under the stress most proven service rifles endure
>>30225318
>scar
>used by countries that don't shoot people
>>30225315
>>30225324
>Guns that have become memes for being cheap and shit
>Overrated
>>30225318
>L85A2, G36, Type 95/97, Type 03, Type 81, SCAR, K2
>Use by a country that don't shoot people
>What is the NATO coalitions
>What is the Iraq coalitions
>What is the Chinese border skirmishes and insurgency put downs
>What is the Chinese military police operations
>Moving Goalposts this hard
>>30225359
>Guns that have become memes for being cheap and shit
>Browning A5
You must be joking
>>30225359
>>popularity is a meme
>>30225378
Super cool looking but yeah basically just a big garand.
>>30225424
More american army hyppee but yeah super heavy, low capacity, retarded bipod.
In no particular order, highly overrated guns:
Mauser 98
CZ 75
Colt Python
Desert eagle
Uzi
1911
>>30225245
>heavy as fuck compared to MP40
1. It's 12 years older
2. It had a full (wood) stock and longer barrel, no shit
>cyclic rate high as fuck compared to MP40
And low as fuck compared to PPSH43 and almost every SMG since
>replaced by the M3
Grease gun worked alongside it until nearly Vietnam, when we phased out the Thompson. It certainly wasn't a direct replacement.
Also keep in mind the Thompson was the oldest SMG to fight in WW2 by a decade, in an era where firearms development progressed so fast 6 months was enough to see most designs obsolete.
>>30225359
>Auto 5
>ever cheap
Nigger, for the last 30 years you could buy decent quality new-production semi's for less than an A5 in bad shape, and a good condition one was Benelli-tier pricing.
>>30225043
>itt: people who dont understand what the word "overrated" means
it has to be a popular and well known firearm to be overrated. otherwise youre just fags pointing out the obvious.
>>30225430
But the mauser 98 action is so proliferated and very robust. Honestly a good action and a good service rifle for the germans WW1.
also the 1911 was very quality for a long time, only really being outclassed once double-stack 9mms entered the pistol world
>>30225456
>only being outclassed once double-stack 9mms entered the pistol world
I'd say a bit later than that, the BHP didn't really shine til they figured out mag issues (both capacity and reliability) and that didn't happen til the late 50's.
>>30225449
Auto-5's demand a slight premium over, say, the model 11, but really I could have either for under $300 in workable condition. If I really wanted a nice one I'd maybe have to go to $600, but they're still the nugget of shotguns.
>>30225456
Overrated doesn't mean bad, just disproportionately loved. There are retards for both the 1911 and the 98 that think their respective fetish guns are god's dick in firearm form. Thus, they are overrated.
>>30225492
A $300 A5 is going to look like it went through a wood chipper then had a cow shit on it. A $600 A5 might actually function but'll have no finish left and the stock'll be cracked.
>unless you're one of those lucky fucks that finds a nice one in an estate sale run by morons
>nugget of shotguns
That'd be the Maverick 88 by a large margin, unless you mean out-of-production guns. In which case it'd be the JC Higgins/H&R/Savage bolt-action 20ga's.
>>30225496
Then you have the retards at the other end of the spectrum that think if it isn't the best of the best fighting gun currently produced it's utter shit.
As an example, the Mauser 98 action lives on in pretty much every safari-caliber rifle still produced, and the 1911 is still the reigning king of competition shooting with over 70% total representation in USPSA, IPSC, IDPA non-production, and NRA bullseye.
>mainly due to the awesome trigger that's unique to the design
>also inb4 someone claims a double-stack 9x19/.38 Super 1911 isn't a "real" 1911
>>30225108
Get fucked. Its not better nor worse than other contemporary submachine guns. And you forgot the ONLY real point thats shit about the Thompson: the awfully long stock.
Cut the stock down 5 or 6 inches to the same lenght of an MP40 or PPSh or PPS and youre ready to rock.
>>30225245
>M-3 (aka MP-40)
Pretty much the only things they have in common are that they're open-bolt tube style SMG's.
Just like 90% of all other SMG's ever made both before and after the MP-40.
>>30225136
Perhaps he was talking about wartime Thompsons
But he also forgot
No known troubles with the 20 and 30 round magazines unlinke other smgs of that era
Actually more accurate because the heavy construction is better suited for the open bolt construction
>>30225538
There's a gun store near me that has a whole rack of A5's and Model 11's.
The cheapest is a Model 11 for about $250 that has no finish left on it, but pretty good wood that's clearly been replaced recently.
The most expensive is $600 for an A5 with almost spotless bluing and really good wood except for the fact that some retard apparently rubbed the foregrip against some rocks at some point. It's even got some nice engravings on the side.
>>30225208
>Block
yep.
>>30225281
shh bby is ok
>>30225138
its ugly really isn't an argument for firearms bro
>>30225605
Consider yourself fortunate then, because in the majority of the US a good-condition A5's gonna be $800-1200.
>>30225281
You know there are generally more than just two people in any given thread right? I'm sorry you're detoxing but it's not my fault faggot
>>30225106
giving a new meaning to the term "light them up"
>>30225078
This should say any 1911 chambered in anything but 45 acp
You'd have to be a complete tryhard fool to buy this overrated, overpriced polymer hunk of junk, and all it's variants/USP too.
>>30225848
Someone has some pretty sour grapes
>>30225272
>It was literally the heaviest
I'm not saying it wasn't, but considering it's construction and furniture its surprisingly lightweight, especially when put against the other heavier smgs of the war.
Crazy how easy it would have been to improve the design though, just with a caliber swap and an inline stock, maybe a shorter barrel since it's blowback anyway buuut it wasn't made for the war after all. Too bad the belt fed prototype never worked out.
>>30225272
It would take more effort for me to remember how many guns i own that it's worth to tell you.
Stay mad, retarded faggot.
'the open bolt ruins the gun' kek holy fucking shit.
>supposed to be a pistol caliber SMG
That's the fucking definition. The thompson is the quintessential, definitive SMG. What the fuck kind of rambling shit are you even saying? It isn't a SMG, or in a pistol caliber? The weight of contemporary SMG's is very close, and the difference is likely attributable to the fact it used .45 stopping power instead of 9MM ammo, so of course it's going to weight a little more.
Any and all glocks, fucking garbage
>>30225043
>>30225158
get the fuck out, glocks are underrated
>>30225081
so you have never used one
>>30225350
airsoft guns don't kill people, kid
>>30225884
no guns detected
>>30225318
>Blah blah list a bunch of guns used by armies that dont actually shoot people.
British Army had proportionally more combat personnel in Afghanistan than US Army.
>>30226031
Not guns any more, used to be
>>30225942
Reference my post, GLOCKS ARE SHIT!
>>30225424
>>30225428
Fun fact - most foreign-used BARs are better than American ones. They usually have pistol grip, better bipod and sometimes quick replacement barrel.
>>30225456
>But the mauser 98 action is so proliferated and very robust. Honestly a good action and a good service rifle for the germans WW1.
There are very few objectively bad service bolt-action rifles.
>>30225424
>hating on the BAR
But the BAR was loved by its operators.
I can't believe nobody posted this naziboo piece of shit yet.
>>30226106
Nice b8, nigger
>>30225394
this
Not bad, but:
>8 round en-bloc
>heavier then it could be
>>30226330
senpai desu desu 8 is better than 5
>>30226330
>hating on the 8 round en-bloc
>Not knowing how well balanced those 9lbs are
Noguns confirmed
>>30226419
8<10<12<20
en-bloc<detachable mag
>>30226421
>not bad
read>>30226442
>>30226421
also
heavier than it could be=/=unwieldable
>>30225424
>>30226101
i can't imagine this is true, it recoils like a mule and weighs like 20 fucking pounds
>>30226442
this is true but we must compare it to its contemporaries. Rifles like the SVT-40 had detachable 10 rounders but were more often loaded with two five-round stripper clipclops and i think the en-bloc system is way easier than that shit
>>30226442
Detachable mags would have been so fucking unwieldy, it'd be like everyone having to carry BAR gear. Fuck that mess.
And don't even come at me with the "muh John Grand intended a detachable mag" mumbo jumbo. 8rd en-bloc was the right thing at the right time.
>>30226490
>loaded with two five-round stripper clipclops and i think the en-bloc system is way easier than that shit
It was easier. You ever notice how much people fumble with those fucking things when they get to the second five round charger? Imagine doing that shit with gloves on. Fuck that.
If anything, for the day, enblocs were underrated.
>>30226475
If you think 9lbs is too much for a battle rifle, then you dyel self doesn't belong in battle.
Where could the Garand have even been lightened? I'll wait.
>>30226523
not him, but removing bit of wood would help
ITT: people confusing outdated with overrated
>>30225378
Do you know if I can get that gun rest on Amazon?
t. living in no gun culture country
>>30226559
From where? Not to come off as belligerent, but there really isn't anything you could take from it that wouldn't compromise the durability or call for a redesign that'd basically make it an en-bloc M14...and that is a redesign because the two gas systems aren't even the same.
>>30226576
everywhere that isn't stock or hand guard
>>30226602
So, nowhere then.
>>30225884
>retards using handloads multiple times the maximum grainage the gun was meant to handle will damage the gun.
Who knew
>>30226611
>>30226640
Do you know any practical experience with guns, or is it more of a theoretical knowledge you have there?
Like I said, in practicality, that wouldn't work: no wood to cover the receiver= exposed guts of the gun, which is bad; no wood on the fore end means burning your hand in a bayonet fight..at least that was an absolute requirement at the time in the US military.
>>30226640
>>30226656
Also making the gas system more prone to damage. That's all for me, done getting trolled.
>>30226656
>bayonet fight
Not a thing
>>30226656
>>30226663
>metal cover
>bayonet fights
>>30225043
>>30225074
what a coincidence!
>>30225605
I have never seen an A5 for under $500.
I have never seen an A5 for under $800 stay in the store for more than a day.
I have no idea where you live but you're either extremely lucky or a liar.
>itt every gun that ever saw wide usage
>>30226675
honestly its the AK though, anyone who knows what a gun is will know what an AK is and its got so much mysticism attached to it just because of how much exposure its gotten due to its widespread use, im tired of hearing that its legendary, im tired of hearing that its the most reliable weapon in the world, im tired of every kid who has played a videogame pretending that they know everything about guns because they can name what sort of round an AK fires, i wish it would have been replaced in a decade by something that was actually good.
>>30226330
its antiquated by todays standards, it was anything but overrated back when it was the first standard issue semi auto, if anyone claims the garand is a valid choice for combat in modern days i would call them a moron, if someone says that the garand wasn't a valid choice for combat in ww2 i would call them a moron.
>>30225106
>a weapon to surpass metal gear
>>30225078
What's wrong with .45 ACP
>>30225043
How is it overrated? The american troops loved the Thompson.
>>30227760
it's overrated.
>>30226330
>>30226442
You are now aware that this beauty exists
>>30227771
>x loved y thus it's great
nope.
the thompson is merely an overbuilt, overweight, hilariously overpriced blowback SMG.
>>30225043
ITT: popular guns
>>30227786
Okay by the time it was used in WW2 the design was over 20 years old, which was why it was getting phased out with the production of the grease gun. Thompson filled it's roll just fine and was reliable enough in combat. It doesn't seem your appreciating its place in history, of course the modern MP5 or any other modern SMG outclasses it.
>>30225043
The Mosin Nagant probably, the only thing it has going for, is that it's cheap and just works.
>>30227804
>Thompson filled it's roll just fine and was reliable enough in combat.
overrated != bad
>It doesn't seem your appreciating its place in history
it never was anything other than an overbuilt, overweight, hilariously overpriced blowback SMG. it wasn't the first, it wasn't any better than others, it just gained a gangster image -> overrated.
>>30225117
in all seriousness, why do you say the Uzi SMG is overrated.
I own an SMG and the pistol variant as well. I agree that the pistol isn't great, but the SMG is awesome. I extend out the shoulder stock and its accurate as hell.
>>30225884
Overrated? Definitely. Garbage? Nah.
>ITT everyone posts anything to get a (you)
http://www.gunnuts.net/2014/12/04/the-5-most-overrated-guns-of-all-time/
I win
>>30225848
Did a hk45 fuck your wife or something?
>>30225074
>>30225043
After handling one of those in person...
They're just awful, but at least they're a lot easier to use with the stick mags vs the drums.
It feels like one solid box of heavy steel and is as ergonomic as a large, jagged stone.
Thank god firearm design evolved past that point.
>>30225834
>>30226330
>Tfw we never adopted the T20E2
>Tfw no giggle-switch Garand with a 20 round mag
>>30225158
Agreed
>>30225430
Mauser 98 is God tier and Colt Python is he best looking revolver ever made.
Autism
>>30225318
Moving the goalposts.
Surprised nobody has posted this yet.
>>30225095
That wasn't me, but I am here to agree. The AR-15 isn't a bad gun, it's just extremely overrated.
>>30228609
>Is that a famas.jpeg
>>30228609
Fuck the Galil is ugly
>>30228560
Not sure you know what overrated means anon.especially since your argument for thr python is about looks
>>30225848
at least it's reliable... right?
>>30225919
Hey thats one heck of a shotgun y u hating
>>30225847
including 10mm?
>>30227046
i'm far from being ak fanboy
all i meant that there is no point putting wood in those areas, even back when m1 was produced
>>30230190
Then you don't understand the M1 design. The clip/en bloc system guides press against the stock, and are totally open. The wood in that area is thin as it can be already and prone to cracking. Removing the wood and replacing it with steel would not make it lighter.
>>30225848
USP 45 isn't overrated. It's one of the best .45 ACP handguns on the market. It's just overpriced because HK
>>30225847
Ah yes, the caliber jmb only cooked up for a specific request. Anybody that knows anything about the man knows that Browning would likely have gone with a 9mm/.38 caliber.
The further away from .45acp you move in a 1911, the better the gun gets
>>30227785
>M1 with BAR mag
>muh dick
100/10
Would fuck
>>30225359
There's no reason to buy a nugget now
You can get an sks for the same price if you're looking for cheap slav guns
Anything made by HK
The worst part about it is that they have so many fucking rich boy shills for them
>>30231734
(Allege that you enjoy watching your wife have sexual relations with other men)
>>30226484
>recoils like a mule
>weighs 20 fucking pounds
You should really think about things before saying them.
>>30231734
Hello friend.
>>30225449
>tfw a nice looking A5 is going up for auction at a sale like 3 miles from my house
>older couple is selling virtually everything on in their farm and taking an RV across the country
Dunno what year it is cuz there was only 1 pic. Hopefully nobody wants it and maybe it'll go for cheap.
>>30225847
This should say any 1911 chambered in anything but .38 super
ftfy
>>30227046
Well I'm tired of ARs. So go fuck yourself.
>>30232059
hello /r/guns or TheFirearmBlog
>>30227064
>8 rounds of .30-06 in a semi auto suddenly incapable of killing people in the 21st century
I don't understand the point you're trying to make?
>>30225538
>In which case it'd be the JC Higgins/H&R/Savage bolt-action 20ga's.
don't forget mossberg
you can get a mossberg bolt action 12ga with a 2+1 magazine and C-lect choke for like $90
>>30232259
I think hes trying to say that other options are more suited for modern combat. But still a garand would still be adequate to take into combat.
>>30228544
>Tfw no giggle-switch Garand with a 20 round mag
...what do you think an M14 is exactly
>>30232301
>M14
>30-06
Pls go away
>>30232362
>M1 Garand loads
>Full power .30-06
Noping pls go
>>30232362
>military ball 30-06
>not the same thing ballistically as .308 military ball, but physically larger and harder to carry.
>garand
>not literally exploding without an aftermarket gas plug when shooting modern commercial 30-06
plz go away
>>30225256
>The closest you will ever get to an STG is either airshit or a fucking museum.
>>30232379
>he doesn't have $35 to spend on an adjustable gas plug.
>>30232390
>literally exploding
They don't explode dumbass, they bend the oprod slightly.
>>30232414
https://www.hmgunworks.com/product/hmg-sturmgewehr-standard-length-223/
>>30228511
nice reddit meme
>>30227778
>>30225078
>>30232420
>they bend the oprod slightly.
>>30225049
Personally own this and is not over rated, enjoy shooting this over my AR-15 any day.
>inb4 2000$ price tag
>inb4 high speed low drag
>inb4 muh shekels
>pic related
I seriously find everything from this company repulsive and seriously hipster tier bullshit
>get it
>bull shit
>>30236131
Enjoy what? Shooting 5MOA groups out of a $2000 dollar piece of kikeshit?
good goy
>>30225043
>this threads still up
maybe i browse /pol/ too much but i swear ive seen this same thread for days on end
>>30225106
>when u tryna operate but yo need to operate the spot light at the local rock concert
>>30225324
Auto-5
YOU FUCKING WOT M8!?
>>30225219
>(in an era of similarly heavy guns)
Talking WW2, or earlier?
WW2 there were already lighter better guns.
Grease gun, Italian one was lighter, PPS-43, M1/2 Carbine
>>30232301
>>30227785
This makes me think about the M1 Carbine chambered for .308.
Looks like a smaller Ruger.
>>30238284
>308
Meant 7.62 nato
>>30225492
> Auto 5
>nugget of shotguns
>Not Moist Mossy 500.
$400-600 for a semi shotgun that slows recoil and cycles fine after 80+ years of duck hunting abuse is pretty outstanding. Source: Muh 1924 US browning. That "humpback" non-raised rib makes aiming so fucking natural, it's beautiful, and fun.
Sure is samefag shitposting right about now
>>30238284
They're M1 Carbines
>>30238314
http://gunlab.net/gordam-ingram/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/03/18/inside-ingram-sam-gunlab/
>>30227046
Check yourself
>>30225158
Pretty gud explosive device though
>>30227046
>Replaced in a decade
>Actually good
Fixed.
>>30226330
>is heavy
Git some fuckin muscle on yourself m8
>>30239161
IMO, the only improvement that it made was the fact you can load it with SKS clips. But that is a stretch.
>>30227785
Oh god yes
>>30231734
How's your mom's basement in the summer? It isn't too hot for playing DOTA is it?
>>30225043
maybe in airsoft, then?
>>30225043
Try Mauser caliber. Weight helps control.
>>30241705
Also the safety
>>30226664
In WWII? Your a retard
>>30227778
try some forearm exercises.
>>30227804
>of course the modern MP5 or any other modern SMG outclasses it.
This just in: modern guns are better than classic guns.
What an insightful message, are you some sort of Nostradamus?
AKMs and AK-74's are fine in my book. But when no-guns and retards say shit like "the AK-47 is the best assault rifle in the world and beats the shit out of every other rifle in the world" that grinds my autism
>>30242746
Is that because they used an absolute? Or because you feel there's a more acceptable firearm?
>>30242746
That InRange mud test was eye-opening.
>>30242765
A little bit of both. The AK-47 was far from being perfect and if it was then the AKM wouldn't of existed. The mystique surrounding this rifle has been greatly over-exaggerated by media. I do agree that the AK is more reliable than the AR platform and even though it's not as accurate as the AR, the difference in accuracy is negligible at actual combat distances. I prefer the AR because of aesthetics and ergonomics. The AK-47 is fine, but just overrated.
>>30242769
Not really it was very flawed.
>>30242840
Explain.
>>30242840
Not him, but what was flawed about it? I've seen people complaining that the AK that they used was a shitty one but would that of really made a difference?
>>30242864
>>30242870
Poured mud directly over the rifle, Rifle should have been drooped in multiple conditions on to the mud loaded safety on-off, mag in no round chambered safety on-off, no mag safety on-off must have mag locked in after being drooped,
crawling with the rifle threw the mud in similar conditions.
Basically things that can actually happen not sorry I poured mud in your rifle.
>>30225158
Please shit the fuck up and come back when you have actual opinionsand not meme puke.
Glocks arent amazing by any means but they are decent and gen 2s werent that unreliable as it is.
>>30243265
Anon, this is an overrated guns thread, not a polish turd thread. Learn the difference
Anything that's a cz75 clone, and even the cz75 itself. Its a decent/reliable platform, but the way people hype up "muh czechnology" is over doing it. I felt pretty let down after buying one
>>30226757
never forget, we had the best looking FAL.
heavy as fuck though.
>>30225081
It's not overrated, it's just old. It was a fucking amazing gun in its heyday.
That's like saying the SAA is overrated.
>>30232414
I saw a STG44 in .22 at a gun store once. I also saw a .22 HK416 once, it was neat.
>>30242982
>Basically things that can actually happen not sorry I poured mud in your rifle.
would be fair point, if not for the fact that they did this for AR-15 and every other rifle they've tested.
AR-15 they tested pasted that test, because it had tighter internals. Which is good when preventing mud getting inside, but at the same time would be problematic in colder climate of Mother Russia.
>>30225848
Go back to watching your MLP marathon and quit shit posting.
>>30225848
>H&K employee shagged my mom
>>30225848
>>30228609
FAMAS has been updated bro. And it's even better now.
>>30225256
Once got a chance to get a real good look at the internals to one of those, honestly one of the worst contraptions I have ever seen in my life.
>>30244961
but you never wore mini shorts while carrying them
>>30225401
it's a M1 garand with all the updates it needed.
>>30226330
I own a M1 Garand, it's not heavy at all.
but i'm also not a malet so.
i don't think it's overhyped, most people ask me the gun is. people don't really remember it.
>>30225099
>t. Jelly guy who paid just as much for a mosin
>>30246264
>people don't really remember it
really? it shame to not recognize such iconic gun
fn 5.7
>>30225043
Your dick.
Also the nugget. It's ok to love it but don't run around treating it like the single best thing in the universe. Personally I love mine but I understand the Fudd rifle sitting next to it is superior in just about every way.
These, the whole family...
>>30246307
And these. Both these guns are the bane of interesting ones. Every time a new rifle comes out all I hear is "does it have EXACTLY the same controls, EXACTLY the same ergos, and EXACTLY the same modability as the AR15?" the glock is better for that because it doesn't utterly dominate the market with generically handsome black polymer, but glocks are still not the best best.
>>30246285
They tend to get confused with the clip.
anyone over 50yrs old knows what it is though.
>>30225605
>Guys i swear
>My local gunstore has one for 1/10th of its price
>I can still buy 20$ mosins
>I SWEAR
>>30245944
>FAMAS G2
Fuck, that gives me a boner, always loved lever delayed blowback rifles. Too bad the frogs were retarded on shutting down their own arms factory. Fucking commies, I swear, they would have gotten a chance to replace the F1
