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New cold war thread.
Lets start it with a one hour documentary about Warsaw Pact exercise Shield '82.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMiXInMaHM8
Documentary on border guards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJF3GR4Dp9c
>The moment when a filthy traitor abandons her country and people for selfish reasons, and you can do nothing about it because a few fat fascist apologists stand in your way.
Re-dump of Cold War forces for Warsaw Pact & NATO. Site crashed in the middle of my last infodump.
The following is lists of Cold War forces in 1988 that were immediately at hand in Europe. Obviously the USSR and even the US could quickly move far more forces into Europe as soon as war erupted.
First are Soviet forces in European states:
*Western Group of Forces (West Germany): 380,000 Personnel
-7,258 T-80/72/62/55 Tanks
-4,564 BMP-1/2 IFV
-308 BMD-1/2 IFV
-5,616 BTR-60/70/80 APC
-673 BRDM-2 AFV
-108 ASU-85 Assault Gun
-1,104 2S1 SPH
-1,488 2S3 SPH
-358 2S5 SPH
-96 2S7 SPH
-48 S29 Self-Propelled Mortar
-24 2S4 Self-Propelled Mortar
-286 D-20 152mm Towed
-540 D-30 122mm Towed
-408 T-12 100mm Towed
-648 BM-21 MLRS
-72 BM-27 MLRS
-402 ZSU-23 Gun SPAAGs
-74 SA-4 SAM Launchers
-240 SA-8 SAM Launchers
-192 SA-9 SAM Launchers
-244 SA-13 SAM Launchers
-40 SA-15 SAM Launchers
-144 SS-1 Short Range Ballistic Missiles
-18 SS-23 Short Range Ballistic Missiles
-108 Scud Short Range Ballistic Missiles
-384 Mi-24
-264 Mi-8
-144 Mi-2
-209 MiG-29
-396 MiG-23
-15 MiG-31
-75 MiG-25
-153 MiG-27
-60 Su-24
-45 Su-25
*Center Group of Forces (Czechoslovakia): ~85,000 Personnel
-1,020 T-80/72/64 Tanks
-755 BMP-1/2 IFVs
-936 BTR-60/70/80 APCs
-17 BMD-1/2 IFV
-6 ASU-85 Assault Gun
-102 BRDM-2 AFVs
-258 2S1/2S3 SPH
-96 2S5 SPH
-24 2S7 SPH
-24 2S4 Self-Propelled Mortar
-432 D-30 122mm Towed
-142 T-12 100mm Towed
-144 BM-21 MLRS
-20 SS-21 Short Range Ballistic Missiles
-36 Scud Short Range Ballistic Missiles
-52 ZSU-23-4 SPAAGs
-54 SA-4 SAM Launchers
-18 SA-5 SAM Launchers
-104 SA-6/SA-8/SA-9/SA-13 SAM Launchers
-80 Mi-24
-50 Mi-8
-30 Mi-2
-45 MiG-23
-45 MiG-27
-45 Su-17
*Southern Group of Forces (Hungary): ~65,000 Personnel
-764 T-80/72/64 Tanks
-598 BMP-1/2 IFVs
-624 BTR-60/70/80 APCs
-17 BMD-1/2 IFVs
-6 ASU-85 Assault Guns
-77 BRDM-2 AFVs
-144 2S1/2S3 SPHs
-96 2S5 SPH
-24 2S7 SPH
-24 2S4 Self-Propelled Mortar
-144 D-30 122mm Towed
-60 T-12 100mm Towed
-126 BM-21 MLRS
-54 SA-4 SAM Launchers
-80 SA-6/SA-8/SA-9/SA-13 SAM Launchers
-32 ZSU-23 SPAAGs
-16 SS-21 Short Range Ballistic Missiles
-36 Scud Short Range Ballistic Missiles
-64 Mi-24
-44 Mi-8
-24 Mi-2
-45 MiG-29
-90 MiG-23
-90 Su-17
-45 Su-25
-15 MiG-21R
*Northern Group of Forces (Poland): ~58,000 Personnel
-382 T-64 Tanks
-300 BMP-1/2 IFV
-312 BTR-60/70/80 APC
-96 2S1/2S3 SPH
-36 D-30 122mm Towed
-12 T-12 100mm Towed
-36 BM-21 MLRS
-8 SS-21 Short Range Ballistic Missiles
-18 Scud Short Range Ballistic Missiles
-16 ZSU-23-4 SPAAGs
-40 SA-6/SA-8/SA-9/SA-13 SAM Launchers
-27 SA-4 SAM Launchers
-52 Mi-24
-32 Mi-8
-12 Mi-2
-150 MiG-29
-50 MiG-23
-270 Su-24
>>30219911
>communism, ever
Zapad '81, another big WP exercise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ9aWA8ogHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZU_V2LqSgk
>East Germany
*Army: 120,000 Active, 518,000 Reserve
-549 T-72M Tanks
-2,251 T-54/55 Tanks
-150 PT-76 Light Tanks
-1,130 BMP-1/2 FVs
-1,128 BTR-70 APCs
-1,480 BTR-60P APCs
-762 BTR-152 APCs
-2,000 BRDM-1 & 2 AFVs
-96 2S3 SPH
-374 2S1 SPH
-137 D-20 152mm Towed
-176 M-46 130mm Towed
-395 D-30 122mm Towed
-407 M-30 122mm Towed
-267 T-12 100mm Towed
-64 D-48 100mm Towed
-25 FROG-7 SSM
-8 SS-21 SSM
-2 SS-23 SSM
-131 ZSU-23-4 SPAAGs
-226 SA-4/SA-6/SA-8/SA-9/SA-13 SAM Launchers
-295 ZU-23 23mm AAA
-244 S-60 57mm AAA
-51 Mi-24
-60 Mi-8/17
-8 Mi-2
*Air Force: 39,000 Active, 37,000 Reserve
-20 MiG-29
-48 MiG-23
-100 MiG-21
-23 Su-22
-22 MiG-21R
-3 An-14
-12 An-26
-3 Tu-134
-2 Tu-154
-24 An-2
-12 L-410
-10 Z-43
-30 Mi-8
-205 SA-2, SA-3, & SA-5 SAM Launchers
*Navy: 16,300 Active, 18,000 Reserve
-5 Koni Class Frigates
-16 Parchim-I Class Corvette
-5 Tarantul-I Class Missile Boats
-10 Osa-1 Class Missile Boats
-1 BAL-COM-10 Class Missile Boat
-6 Shershen Class Torpedo Boats
-6 Libelle Class Torpedo Boats
-24 Kondor-II Class Minesweeper
-12 Frosch Class Landing Ship
-23 Su-22
-13 Mi-8
-14 Mi-14
-2 Styx Anti-Ship Missile Batteries
*Paramilitary: 40,000 Border Guard, 15,000 Alert Police, 700,000 Worker’s Militia
>>30219911
Considering even soldiers liked to jump the fence, I think it was a country worth abandoning.
>Bulgaria
*Army: 70,000 Active, 420,000 Reserve
-334 T-72 Tanks
-80 T-62 Tanks
-1,612 T-54 Tanks
-862 T-34 Tanks
-86 BMP-2 IFVs
-31 BMP-1 IFVs
-803 BTR-60 APCs
-1,481 MT-LB APC
-450 BRDM-1/2 AFVs
-728 2S1 SPH
-13 2S3 SPH
-222 BM-21 MLRS
-40 RM-130 MLRS
-211 D-20 152mm Towed
-104 ML-20 152mm Towed
-74 M-46 130mm Towed
-40 A-19 122mm Towed
-675 M-30 122mm Towed
-24 BS-3 100mm Towed
-28 FROG-7 SSM
-36 Scud SSM
-8 SS-21 SSM
-30 ZSU-23-4 SPAAG
-400 ZU-23 23mm & S-60 57mm AAA
-50 SA-4, SA-6, SA-13 SAM Launchers
*Air Force: 22,000 Active, 45,000 Reserve
-20 MiG-29
-70 MiG-23
-160 MiG-21
-36 MiG-19
-30 MiG-17
-21 Su-21
-40 Su-25
-10 MiG-25R
-5 MiG-17R
-10 MiG-21R
-10 Su-22R
-6 An-30 Recon
-4 An-2
-5 An-24
-5 An-26
-1 L-410
-1 Yak-40
-70 L-29
-30 L-39
-40 Mi-24
-30 Mi-8
-20 Mi-4
-10 Mi-2
-205 SA-2, SA-3, & SA-5 SAM Launchers
-10 S-300 SAM Launchers
*Navy: 10,000 Active, 7,000 Reserve
-Riga Class Corvette (2)
-Poti Class ASW Corvette (5)
-Osa Class Missile Boat (6)
-Shershen Class Torpedo Boat (6)
-SO-1 Class Patrol Boat (3)
-Zhuk Class Patrol Boat (7)
-T-43 Class Minesweeper (1)
-Sonya Class Minesweeper (4)
-Romeo Class Submarines (4)
-Polnochny Class Landing Ship (2)
-Vydra Class Landing Craft (19)
-3 Mi-8
-3 Mi-4
-6 Mi-2
-6 Mi-14
-150 100mm & 130mm Coastal Guns
-2 Styx Anti-Ship Missile Battery’s
*Paramilitary: 13,000 Border Guard, 15,000 Construction Troops, 8,000 Civil Defense Troops, 15,000 Internal Troops
>>30219925
Do you have the NATO stats?
>Czechoslovakia
*Army: 145,000 Active, 250,000 Reserve
-815 T-72 Tanks
-1,543 T-55 Tanks
-1,547 T-54 Tanks
-50 T-34 Tanks
-2,252 BMP-1 IFVs
-242 BMP-2 IFVs
-464 OT-62 APCs
-1,568 OTR-64 APCs
-333 OT-810 APCs
-642 OT-65 APCs
-970 BRDM-1/2 AFVs
-360 DANA SPH
-148 2S1 SPH
-12 2S7 SPH
-8 2S4 Self-Propelled Mortar
-466 RM-70 MLRS
-388 RM-130 MLRS
-48 ML-20 152mm Towed
-113 M-46 130mm Towed
-258 D-30 122mm Towed
-995 M-30 122mm Towed
-120 A-19 120mm Towed
-559 M-53 100mm Towed
-36 FROG-7 SSM
-8 SS-21 SSM
-30 Scud SSM
-10 SS-23 SSM
-27 SA-4 SAM Launchers
~200 SA-6, SA-8, SA-9, SA-13 SAM Launchers
~500 M-53/59 Praga SPAAG
~100 S-60 57mm AAA
*Air Force: 56,000 Active, 45,000 Reserve
-20 MiG-29
-65 MiG-25
-305 MiG-21
-25 Su-25
-50 Su-7
-2 Tu-134 EW
-5 L-29 Recon
-16 MiG-21R
-10 Su-22R
-2 An-12
-16 An-24
-5 Il-14
-30 L-410
-1 Tu-134
-30 L-29
-60 L-39
-60 Mi-24
-75 Mi-8
-30 Mi-2
-250 SA-2, SA-3, & SA-5 SAM Launchers
-10 S-300 SAM Launchers
*Paramilitary: 27,000 National Security Corps, 11,000 Border Guard, 120,000 People’s Militia
>Hungary
*Army: 77,000 Active, 125,000 Reserve
-138 T-72 Tanks
-1,287 T-54/55 Tanks
-91 T-34 Tanks
-542 BMP-1 IFVs
-140 BTR-50, BTR-60, BTR-80 APC
-1,609 FUG APCs
-67 MT-LB APCs
-340 BRDM-1 AFVs
-160 BRDM-2 AFVs
-154 2S1 SPH
-18 2S3 SPH
-58 BM-21 MLRS
-308 D-20 152mm Towed
-51 D-1 152mm Towed
-235 M-30 122mm Towed
-106 MT-12 100mm Towed
-163 D-44 85mm Towed
-18 FROG-7 SSM
-9 Scud SSM
-14 ZSU-23-4 SPAAG
-144 S-60 57mm AAA
-18 SA-4 SAM Launchers
-44 SA-6 SAM Launchers
-44 SA-9 SAM Launchers
-14 SA-13 SAM Launchers
*Air Force: 22,000 Active, 9,400 Reserve
-45 MiG-23
-90 MiG-21
-10 Su-22R
-40 Mi-24
-2 An-24
-9 An-26
-5 Mi-2
-48 Mi-8
-120 SA-2 & SA-3 SAM Launchers
*Paramilitary: 15,000 Security Police, 16,000 Border Guard, 60,000 Worker’s Guard
>>30219957
Soldiers is plural comrade
>>30219911
>just because you're not a Bolshevik traitor that means you're a fascist
>Poland
*Army: 234,200 Active, 420,000 Reserve
-750 T-72 Tanks
-2,150 T-54/55 Tanks
-60 PT-76 Light Tanks
-1,409 BMP-1 IFVs
-62 BMP-1 IFVs
-928 OT-64 APCs
-1,000 OT-62 APCs
-414 MT-LB APCs
-900 FUG/BRDM-2 AFVs
-498 2S1 SPH
-111 DANA SPH
-8 2S7 SPH
-232 BM-21 MLRS
-30 RM-70 MLRS
-166 D-20 152mm Towed
-782 M-30 122mm Towed
-722 D-44 85mm Towed
-52 FROG-7 SSM
-30 Scud SSM
-150 ZSU-23-4 SPAAGs
-30 SA-4 SAM Launchers
-230 SA-6, SA-8, SA-9, SA-13 SAM Launchers
-795 ZU-23 23mm & S-60 57mm AAA
*Air Force: 83,000 Active, 75,000 Reserve
-12 MiG-29
-40 MiG-23
-262 MiG-21
-135 Su-20/22
-35 MiG-21R
-8 Su-22R
-24 MiG-17R
-10 Yak-10
-12 Il-14
-10 An-2
-11 An-26
-5 An-28
-2 An-12
-1 Tu-54
-1 Tu-134
-12 Yak-40
-I Il-18
-25 PZL-104
-50 TS-11
-50 TS-8
-40 Mi-24
-50 Mi-8
-3 Mi-6
-10 Mi-4
-100 Mi-2
*Navy: 22,000 Active, 10,000 Reserve
-Obluze Class Patrol Boat (8)
-Osa Class Missile Boat (8)
-Tarantul Class Missile Boat (4)
-Kaszub Class Corvette (1)
-Kashin Class Destroyer (1)
-Kilo Class Submarine (1)
-Foxtrot Class Submarine (2)
-Polnochny Class Landing Ship (1)
-Lublin Class Landing Ship/Minelayer (5)
-Debra Class Landing Craft (3)
-Krogulec Class Minesweeper (8)
-Notec Class Minesweeper (14)
-Leniwka Class Minesweeper (2)
-38 MiG-21
-5 MiG-15R
-2 An-28
-10 An-2
-3 W-3 Sokol
-15 Mi-14
-17 Mi-17
-4 Mi-8
*Paramilitary: 65,000 National Territorial Defense Force, 12,000 ZOMO, 450,000 ORMO, 20,000 Border Guard
>>30219961
Yes, will post them
>Romania
*Army: 140,000 Active, 178,000 Reserve
-30 T-72 Tanks
-1,727 T-55/TR-85/TR-580 Tanks
-1,060 T-34 Tanks
-326 SU-76 Assault Guns
-84 SU-100 Assault Guns
-20 ISU-152 Assault Guns
-127 MLI-84 IFVs
-1,962 TAB-71/BTR-60 APC
-156 TAB-77/BTR-70 APC
-150 BTR-40 & BTR-152 APCs
-39 MT-LB APCs
-75 MLVM APCs
-650 BRDM-1 AFVs
-387 TABC-79/BRDM-2 AFVs
-48 Md.89/2S1 SPH
-325 BM-21/RM-51 MLRS
-396 M81/D-20 152mm Towed
-61 ML-20 152mm Towed
-128 Skoda 1934 150mm Towed
-90 M82/M-46 130mm Towed
-266 M-30 122mm Towed
-105 M1936 Schneider 105mm Towed
-268 Skoda M1916 & T-12 100mm Towed
-50 D-48 85mm Towed
-761 ZiS-3 76mm Towed
-127 M48 76mm Towed
-60 ZSU-57-2 SPAAG
-160 SA-6 SAM Launchers
-40 CA-95/SA-9 SAM Launchers
-24 SA-8 SAM Launchers
-500 M80/88 30mm, 61-K 37mm, S-50 57mm, 52-K 85mm, KS-19 100mm AAA
*Air Force: 32,000 Active, 19,000 Reserve
-45 MiG-23
-185 MiG-21
-85 MiG-17
-20 MiG-15
-35 IAR-93 Vultur
-20 Il-20 Recon
-4 Li-2
-11 An-24
-8 An-26
-2 Boeing 707
-60 L-29 & L-39
-20 IAR-99 Soim
-55 IAR-316
-40 IAR-330
-25 Mi-8
-10 mI-4
*Navy: 7,500 Active, 6,000 Reserve
-VB Class Riverine Patrol Boat (18)
-VG Class Riverine Patrol Boat (8)
-VD Class Riverine Minesweeper (25)
-Brutar Riverine Attack Boat ()
-Type 061 Shanghai Class Gunboat (25)
-Type 025 Huchuan Class Torpedo Boat (22)
-Osa Class Missile Boat (6)
-Epitrop Class Missile Boat (12) (Osa)
-Poti Class Submarine Chaser (3)
-Kronstadt Class Submarine Chaser (3)
-Tetal Class Corvette (3) (Koni)
-Muntenia Class Destroyer (1) (Kashin)
-Kilo Class Submarine (1)
-Cosar Class Minelayer (2)
-Democratia Class Minesweeper (4)
-100 SM-4-1130mm, ML-20 152mm, Skoda M1934 150mm Coastal Guns
-4 Styx Anti-Ship Missile Batteries
*Paramilitary: 20,000 Border Guard, 20,000 Securitate, 700,000 Patriotic Guards
>>30220010
You already posted all this shit, and we don't need you taking all the image slots in the thread to post fucking flags, we fucking know what the country is by you saying what it is, we don't need a flag too.
Could atleast post some nice images of the country's military.
>>30219986
It is, but even if I was highlighting an individual case there were attempts by soldiers of the NVA to defect to the west.
Onto NATO, U.S. Forces in Europe.
The U.S. would have obviously attempted to ship substantial new forces over to Europe in the event of war along with a Canadian contingent.
>U.S. Forces in Europe:
*Army: ~211,200 Personnel
-412 M1A1 Abrams
-30 M60A3
-176 M113
-160 M2 Bradley
-60 Dragoons
-406 M109A3
-228 M110A2
-70 MLRS
-168 MIM-23 Hawk Launchers
-240 MIM-104 Patriot Launchers
-96 MIM-72 Chaparral
-126 M163 VADS
-312 Stingers
-6 M101 105mm
-30 MGM-52 Lance Short Range Ballistic Missiles
-108 Pershing-II Intermediate Range Ballistic Missiles
-84 AH-64A Apache
-182 AH-1F Cobra
-311 OH-58A/C /D Kiowa
-228 UH-60A Blackhawks
-15 EH-60 Blackhawks
-84 UH-1H Iroquois
-64 CH-47D Chinooks
-10 U-21 Beechcraft King Air
-Berlin Brigade: 22 M60A3, 8 M109A3, 18 M106, 21 M125, 36 M901, 126 Dragoon
*Air Force:~84,400 Personnel
-96 F-15C Eagle
-264 F-16C
-24 F-4G Wild Weasel
-168 F-111F Aardvark
-144 A-10 Thunderbolt II
-20 RF-4C Phantom II
-18 EF-111A Raven
-16 F-5E (Aggressor Training)
-6 EC-130
-2 EC-135
-464 BGM-109G Gryphon Ground Launched Cruise Missiles
*Navy: ~32,300 Personnel
-1 Aircraft Carrier
-2 Cruisers
-6 Destroyers
-3 Frigates
-1 Amphibious Transport Dock
-2 Amphibious Transport Dock
-2 Dock Landing Ship
-4 SSN
-12 F-14 Tomcat
-10 F/A-18 Hornet
-6 S-3 Viking
-5 EA-6 Prowler
-4 E-2 Hawkeye
-11 MH-60 Seahawk
-8 SH-3 Seaking
-18 P-3C Orion
-2 C-2 Greyhounds
*Marine Corps: ~300 Personnel
>>30219911
Look up what the Stasi would do to people, cunt. I like the aesthetics of The DDR as much as the next guy but the East German government was much worse than the Nazi's
>West Germany
*Army: 304,700 Active, ~717,000 Reserve Personnel
-1,950 Leopard 2A1/2/3/4 Tanks
-2,437 Leopard 1 Tanks
-650 M48A2G2 Patton Tanks
-225 M-47 Patton Tanks (Reserve)
-2,560 M113 APC (All Variants)
-2,136 Marder 1IFV
-408 Spahpanzer Luchs APC
- 960 TPz Fuchs APC
-316 Jaguar-1 TOW Tank Destroyer
-162 Jaguar-2 TOW Tank Destroyer
-500 Kanonjagdpanzer Tank Destroyer
-586 M109G SPH
-226 M110A2 SPH
-216 FH-70 155mm Howitzer
-244 M101 105mm Howitzer
-105 M-56 105mm Howitzer
-209 LARS-2 110mm MLRS
-36 M270 MLRS
-26 MGM-52 Lance Short Range Ballistic Missile
-432 Gepard SPAAG
~1,000+ FK20-2 20mm AAA
-202 Bofors L70 40mm AAA
-658 MIM-43 Redeye
-354 Stingers
-143 Roland Launchers
-210 PAH-1 (Bo.105 w/ HOT ATGM)
-97 Bo.105M
-138 SA-313 Alouette III
-184 UH-1D Iroquois
-108 CH-53G Sea Stallion
*Air Force: 106,000 Active, ~105,000 Reserve Personnel
-198 Panavia Tornado IDS
-152 F-4E/F Phantom II
-72 RF-4E Phantom II
-165 Alpha Jets
-84 C-160
-106 UH-1 Iroquois
-48 MIM-104 Patriot Launchers
-54 MIM-23 Hawk Launchers
-16 MIM-14 Nike-Hercules Launchers
-18 Roland Launchers
-72 Pershing-IA Intermediate Range Ballistic Missiles
*Navy: 32,000 Active, 26,000 Reserve Personnel
-20 Tiger Class Missile Boats
-10 Gepard Class Missile Boats
-10 Albatross Class Missile Boats
-6 Koln Class Frigates
-6 Bremen Class Frigates
-3 Lutjens Class Destroyers
-4 Hamburg Class Destroyers
-18 Type 206 Submarines
-6 Type 205 Submarines
-48 Panavia Tornado IDS
-9 Br.1151 Atlantic ASW
-19 Do-28D-2 ASW
-18 Lynx
-22 Sea King Mk.41
*Federal Border Guard: ~60,000 Personnel
-108 MOWAG M3
-33 SA-318 Alouette III
-15 UH-1D Iroquois
-10 Bell 212
-22 SA-330J Puma
-3 AS-332L Super Puma
-17 Bo.105
>>30220048
At least they did it with German efficiency.
>United Kingdom
*Army: 152,900 Active, 264,00 Reserve
-420 Challenger 1 Tanks
-870 Chieftain Tanks
-50 Centurion Tanks
-200 Warrior IFV
-2,400 FV432 APC
-527 Saxon APC
-300 Saracen APC (Reserve)
-271 FV101 Scorpion Recon
-290 FV107 Scimitar Recon
-230 FV721 Fox Recon
-120 FV102 Striker ATGM Carrier
-70 Spartan ATGM Carrier
-200 FV433 Abbot SPH
-119 M109 SPH
-37 M107 SPH
-16 M110 SPH
-72 FH-70 155mm Towed
-212 L118 105mm Towed
-51 Mod.56 105mm Towed
-14 MGM-52 Lance Ballistic Missiles
-50 Rapier Launchers (Self-Propelled)
-70 Rapier Launchers (Towed)
-60 159 SA-341 Gazelle
-30 Westland Scout
-120 Lynx
-4 A-109
*Air Force: 89,600 Active, 40,700 Reserve
-125 F-4 Phantom
-298 Panavia Tornado
-114 Jaguars
-101 Harriers
-65 Buccaneers
-161 Hawker Hunter
-9 Canberra Recon
-36 Nimrod ASW
-5 Shackleton AWACS
-3 Nimrod EW
-12 Canberra EW
-13 VC-10
-55 C-130
-12 Victor K2
-4 VC-10
-4 VC-10
-6 KC-130
-9 Lockheed TriStar-120 Jet Provost T5
-119 Bulldog T1
-7 Puma HC-1
-32 CH-47 Chinook
-29 SA-341 Gazelle
-18 Westland Sea King
-64 Bloodhound Launchers
-80 Rapier Launchers
-Air Force Regiment: 36 Scorpion, 90 Spartan
*Navy: 56,100 Active, 34,000 Reserve
-Type 22 Class Frigate (13)
-Type 21 Class Frigate (7)
-Leander Class Frigate (18)
-Type 42 Class Destroyer (12)
-Type 82 Class Destroyer (1)
-Invincible Class Aircraft Carrier (3)
-Upholder Class Submarine (4)
-Oberon Class Submarine (7)
-Trafalgar Class SSN (5)
-Swiftsure Class SSN (6)
-Churchill Class SSN (3)
-Valiant Class SSN (2)
-Resolution Class SSBN (4)
-Fearless Class Amphibious Platform Dock (2)
-Roundtable Class Amphibious Landing Ships (8)
-42 Harriers
-26 Hawker Hunter
-133 Sea King
-80 Lynx
-8 Wasp HAS.1
-31 SA-341 Gazelle
-19 BAE Jetstream
-3 Canberra Recon
-Royal Marines: 7,400 Active, 3,800 Reserve, 18 L118 105mm Howitzer, 8 SA-341 Gazelle, 6 Lynx, 34 Sea King
Ignore the shitposter, its interesting.
>>30219925
>>30219933
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>>30219958
>>30219971
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>>30220010
Interesting stuff. Any info on how they were organised? Fronts, Armies, Divisions, Regiments etc.
>France
*Army: 288,550 Active, 419,000 Reserve
-1,355 AMX-30 Tanks
-213 AMX-13 Light Tanks
-817 AMX-10P APC
-3,400 VAB APC
-174 AMX-13 VTT APC
-284 AMX-10RC AFV
-200 ERC-90 AFV
-425 AML-60 AFV
-210 AML-90 AFV
-90 VCAC ATGM Carrier
-210 GCT 155mm SPH
-222 Mk.F3 155mm SPH
-300 AMX-13 105mm SPH
-264 OB-150-50 155mm Howitzer
-159 M101 105mm Howitzer
-120 Alouette III
-65 Alouette III
-127 SA-330 Puma
-31 AS-332M Super Puma
-244 SA-341/2 Gazelle
-6 AS-350 Ecureuil
-69 MIM-23 Hawk Launchers
-83 Roland –I Launchers
-98 Roland-II Launchers
-60 AMX-13 DCA SPAAG
-475 Tarasque 20mm AAA
-40 Pluton SRBM
*Air Force: 93,100 Active, 70,000 Reserve
-80 Mirage 2000C
-15 Mirage 2000N (Nuclear Strike)
-44 Mirage IVA/P (Nuclear Strike)
-151 Mirage F-1C
-122 Mirage IIIE
-16 Mirage-IIIRD
-36 Mirage VF
-132 Jaguar-A
-162 Alpha Jet
-150 CM-170 Magister
-40 Alouette II
-50 Alouette III
-5 AS-332 Super Puma
-29 SA-330 Puma
-25 AS-355 Ecureuil
-48 Crotale Launchers
-299 Cerbere 76T2 20mm AAA
*Navy: 65,300 Active, 24,000 Reserve
-2 Clemenceau Aircraft Carriers
-1 Jeanne d’Arc Class Helicopter Cruiser
-1 Colbert Class Cruiser
-2 Cassard Class Destroyers
-2 Suffren Class Destroyers
-1 Du Chayla Class Destroyer
-7 Georges Leygues Class Frigate
-3 Tourville Class Frigate
-1 Duperre Class Corvette
-1 Aconti Class Corvette
-6 Commandanti Riviere Class Corvette
-17 E’Estienne d’Orves Class Corvette
-10 Eridan Class Minesweeper
-5 Circe Class Minesweeper
-3 Ouistreham Class Minesweeper
-1 Foudre Class Landing Platform Dock
-2 Ouragan Class Landing Platform Dock
-1 Bouganville Class Landing Ship Dock
-5 Champlain Class Landing Ship
-6 Redoubtable SSBN
-4 Rubis SSN
-4 Agosta Class Diesel-Electric Submarine
-6 Daphne Class Diesel-Electric Submarine
-16 Super Etendard
-7 F-8E Crusader
-12 Alize ASW
-12 Lynx
*Gendarmerie: 91,000 Active, ~130,000 Reserve
-30 AMX-13 Light Tanks
-121 AML AFV
-28 VBC-90 AFV
-33 AMX VTT APC
-155 VBRG-170 APC
-3 SE-3130
-3 SA-316
-9 SA-319
-29 AS-350 Ecureuil
>>30220075
is that a mobile guillotine?
>Italy
*Army: 270,000 Active, 520,000 Reserve
-920 Leopard 1 Tanks
-300 M-60A1 Patton Tanks
-313 M-47 Patton Tanks (Reserve)
-~2,800 M113 APC
-~1,600 VCC-1/2 APC
-270 VCC-1 TOW ATGM Carrier
-260 M109G/L SPH
-23 M110A2 SPH
-2 M270 MLRS
-6 MGM-52 Lance Short Range Ballistic Missiles
-360 Mod.56 105mm Howitzer
-164 FH-70 155mm Howitzer
-423 M114 155mm Howitzer
-23 M115 203mm Howitzer
-96 Nike-Hercules Launchers
-60 MIM-23 Hawk Launchers
-16 SPADA Launchers
-50 SIDAM-25 SPAAG
-210 Bofors 40mm AAA
-21 A-109EOA Light Attack
-22 Bell 47
-5 A-109
-20 Bell 204
-92 Bell 205
-126 Bell 206
-14 Bell 212
-11 Bell 412
-39 CH-47C Chinook
-68 SM.1019
-O-1E Bird Dog
*Air Force: 78,000 Active, 28,000 Reserve
-76 F-104S Starfighter
-19 RF-104G Starfighter
-85 Tornado IDS
-83 G.91Y/R
-18 Breguet Atlantic ASW
-6 G.222 ELINT
-21 PD-808 ECM
-12 C-130
-32 G.222
-80 MB.339A
-66 MB.326
-30 SF.260M
-10 Bell 205
-50 MD-500
-32 Bell 212
-18 HH-3 Pelican
-28 Bell 47
-25 Bell 204
*Navy: 52,100 Active, 36,000 Reserve
-Minerva Class Corvette (4)
-Cassiopea Class Corvette (4)
-Maestrale Class Frigate (8)
-Lupo Class Frigate (4)
-Alpino Class Frigate (2)
-Audace Class Destroyer (2)
-Impavido Class Destroyer (2)
-Vittorio Veneto Class Cruiser (1)
-Sauro Class Submarine (5)
-Toti Class Submarine (4)
-Tench Class Submarine (2)
-San Giorgio Class Amphibious Transport Dock (2)
-36 SH-3 Sea King
-62 Bell 212
*Carabinieri: 105,000
-240 M113 APC
-140 Fiat 6616 APC
-23 AB-47
-2 A-109
-5 Bell 205
-23 Bell 206
>>30220099
Yes I have all that as well will link the PDFs as it's too long to post.
>Turkey
*Army: 525,000 Active, 950,000 Reserve
-81 Leopard 1A3 Tanks
-3,110 M48A1/2/T1/2 Tanks
-523 M-47 Patton Tanks
-108 M-41 Walker Bulldog Light Tanks
-114 M-24 Chaffee Light Tanks
-700 M-59 APC
-2,300 APC
-600 M2/3 Halftrack
-100 M116 75mm Pack
-830 M101 105mm Towed
-15 Skoda 105mm Towed
-116 Skoda 150mm Towed
-500 M114 155mm Towed
-150 M-59 155mm Towed
-140 M115 203mm Towed
-300 M52 SPH
-26 M108 SPH
-36 M107 SPH
-16 M110 SPH
-81 M55 SPH
-20 RA-7040 70mm MLRS
-48 Type 63 107mm MLRS
-100 M42A1 Duster SPAAG
-260 GDF-003 35mm AAA
-725 Bofors L60 40mm AAA
-100 M51 75mm AAA
-100 M117/118 90mm AAA
-12 Rapier Launchers
-20 Bell 204
-85 Bell 205
-20 Bell 206
-3 Bell 212
-30 UH-1 Iroquois
-60 SA-313
-15 OH-13H
-30 Hughes-300C
-14 Bell 47
-19 Do.28
-50 O-1E
*Air Force: 67,400 Active, 73,000 Reserve
-62 F-16C/D
-135 F-4E Phantom II
-6 RF-4E Phantom II
-148 F-104 Starfighter
-54 F-5A/B Tiger
-22 RF-5A Tiger
-7 C-130
-20 C-160
-54 C-47
-12 T-34
-30 T-37
-28 T-38
-45 UH-1
-4 AS-330 Puma
-24 Rapier Launchers
-128 Nike-Hercules Launchers
*Navy: 55,000 Active, 84,000 Reserve
-Jaguar Class Torpedo Boat (6)
-Kartal Class Missile Boat (8) (Zobel)
-Dogan Class Missile Boat (4) (FPB-57)
-Ruzgar Class Missile Boat (4) (FPB-57)
-MEKO-200 Class Frigate (3)
-Koln Class Frigate (2)
-Claud Jones Class Destroyer Escort (2)
-Gearing Class Destroyer (10) (2 Carpenter ASW Types)
-Allen M. Summers Class Destroyer (2)
-Balao Class Submarine (5)
-Tench Class Submarine (2)
-Tang Class Submarine (2)
-Type 209 Class Submarine (6)
-Nusrei Class Minelayer (1)
-Mordogan Class Minelayer (5)
-Adjutant Class Minesweeper (12)
-Commandant Bay Class Minesweeper (4)
-Vegesack Class Minesweeper (6)
-Terrabonne Parish Class Landing Ship (2)
-LST-512 Class Landing Ship (2)
-Sarucabey Class Landing Ship (1)
-Cakabey Class Landing Ship (1)
-22 S-2 Tracker ASW
-3 Bell 204
-12 Bell 212
*Gendarmerie: 70,000 Active, 50,000 Reserve
~500 V-150, UR-416, Condor APC
-~20 Bell 204, 205, 206, UH-60 Helicopters
>>30220048
I dunno chump, for all its faults the DDR has never tried to breed the German populace out of existence replacing them with goatfucker subhumans. Isn't it hilarious how none of this multiculti shit would fly in actual communist state?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1CyPjQQTAM
>>30220048
Yes, East Germany caused more people to die than lived in East Germany.
>Belgium
*Army: 68,700 Active, ~100,000 Reserve
-334 Leopard-1Be Tank
-25 M-41 Walker Bulldog Light Tank
-525 M113A1-B APC
-554 AMC-VCI APC (Reserve)
-43 BDX APC
-266 FV103 Spartan APC
-77 M-75 APC (Reserve)
-157 FV107 Scimitar Recon
-136 FV101 Scorpion Recon
-43 FV102 Striker ATGM Carrier
-80 Jagdpanzer Kanone Tank Destroyer
-158 M109A2/3 SPH
-28 M108 SPH
-11 M110A2 SPH
-21 M101 105mm Howitzer
-5 MGM-152 Lance Short Range Ballistic Missiles
-48 MIM-23 Hawk Launchers
-54 Gepard SPAAGs
-56 Oerlikon 20mm AAA
-102 M167 Vulcan 20mm AAA
-59 Alouette III
-3 SA-330H Puma
*Air Force: 18,800 Active, ~19,000 Reserve
-136 F-16A
-72 Mirage V
-31 Alpha Jet
-16 Fouga Magister
-30 SF.260
*Navy: ~4,500 Active, ~5,000 Reserve
-4 Wielingen Class Frigates
*Gendarmerie: ~15,900 Personnel
-62 FN-4RM APC
>Denmark
*Army: 19,400 Active, 52,700 Reserve, 55,300 Home Guard
-120 Leopard 1DK (Reserve)
-217 Centurion Mk.5/6 Tanks (Reserve)
-53 M-41DK Walker Bulldog Light Tanks
-536 M113A1 APC
-56 M901 TOW Carrier
-76 M109A3 SPH
-12 M115 203mm Howitzer
-96 M114/39 155mm Howitzer
-24 M59 155mm Howitzer
-184 M101 105mm Howitzer (Reserve)
-55 M106 Mortar Carriers
-36 Bofors L60 40mm AAA
-14 MD-500M
-8 Saab T-17
*Air Force: 6,900 Active, 12,100 Reserve, 10,600 Home Guard
-60 F-16A/B
-40 Saab 35 Draken
-36 MIM-23 Hawk Launchers
*Navy: 5,400 Active, 7,600 Reserve, 4,600 Home Guard
-1 Besktteren Class Frigate
-2 Peder Class Frigate
-3 Niels Juels Class Corvette
-4 Hvidbjomen Class Corvettes
-6 Soloven Class Torpedo Boats
-10 Willemoes Class Missile Boats
-5 Daphne Class ASW Boats
-2 Type 205 Class Submarine
-1 Delefinen Class Submarine
>>30219925
>>30219933
>>30219949
>>30219958
>>30219971
>>30219983
>>30219997
>>30220010
>>30220041
>>30220058
>>30220076
>>30220100
>>30220121
>>30220137
can you take your autism elsewhere you literally killed the last thread with your sperg garbage.
>>30220121
Noice.
And of course posting one for NATO forces too would be great.
>Greece
*Army: 117,000 Active, 350,000 Reserve
-106 Leopard 1A3 Tanks
-190 AMX-30 Tanks
-1,100 M-48A2/3/5 Patton Tanks
-350 M-47 Patton Tanks
-184 M-24 Chaffee Light Tanks
-96 AMX-10P IFV
-1,034 M113 APC
-200 Leonidas-I APC
-100 Leonidas-2 APC
-430 M-59 APC
-517 M-2/3 Halftrack
-135 M109A1/2 SPH
-36 M107 SPH
-32 M110A2 SPH
-37 M44A1 SPH
-72 M52 SPH
-32 M116 75mm pack Howitzer
-180 Mod.56 105mm Howitzer
-180 M102 105mm Howitzer
-324 M101 105mm Howitzer
-240 M114 155mm Howitzer
-72 M49 155mm Howitzer
-44 M115 203mm Howitzer
-42 MIM-23 Hawk Launchers
-101 M42A Duster SPAAG
-101 RH-202 20mm AAA
-24 Artemis 30mm AAA
-277 Bofors 40mm AAA
-95 UH-1 Iroquois
-15 Bell 206
-1 A.109A
-5 Bell 47G
-10 CH-47 Chinook
-20 Cessna U-7A
*Air Force: 26,000 Active, 32,000 Reserve
-36 F-16A Fighting Falcon
-24 Mirage-2000E
-32 F-4E Phantom II
-5 RF-4E Phantom II
-32 Mirage F-1
-63 F-5A/B Tiger
-20 RF-5A Tiger
-70 F-104G Starfighter
-18 RF-104G Starfighter
-47 A-7H Corsair II
-8 HU-16B Albatross
-12 C-130H
-17 C-47
-10 N.2501 Noratlas
-12 Do.28
-12 CL-215
-19 T-41
-31 T-37
-36 T-2 Buckeye
-13 Bell 205
-2 Bell 206
-20 Hughes-500M
-4 Bell 47G
-3 Bell 212
-5 CH-47C Chinook
*Navy: 19,500 Active, 24,000 Reserve
-Seeadler Class Torpedo Boat (7)
-La Combattante III Class Missile Boat (9)
-La Combattante II Class Missile Boat (4)
-Elli Class Frigate (2)
-Cannon Class Destroyer Escort (4)
-Fletcher Class Destroyer (6)
-Gearing Class Destroyer (8)
-Balao Class Submarine (1)
-Tench Class Submarine (1)
-Type 209 Class Submarine (8)
-14 Bell 212 ASW
-4 SA-319 ASM
>>30220112
Yes.
>Netherlands
*Army: 63,000 Active, 135,100 Reserve
-468 Leopard 2 Tanks
-445 Leopard-1V Tanks
-~750 M113 APC
-2,079 YPR-765 APC
-430 AMC-VCI APC
-224 M109A1/2 SPH
-76 M110A2 SPH
-82 M114/39 155mm Howitzer
-42 M101 105mm Howitzer
-8 M270 MLRS
-8 MGM-52 Lance Short Range Ballistic Missiles
-95 PRTL 35mm SPAAG
-60 Bofors L70 AAA
-64 SA-316 Alouette III
-29 Bo.105
*Air Force: 17,400 Active, 11,200 Reserve
-177 F-16A/B
-46 NF-5A
-72 Bofors L70 40mm AAA
-72 MIM-23 Hawk Launchers
-20 MIM-104 Patriot Launchers
*Navy: 16,500 Active, 9,400 Reserve
-Kortenaer Class Frigate (10)
-Jacob Van Heemskerck Class Frigate (2)
-Tromp Class Frigate (2)
-Zwaardvis Class Submarine (2)
-Dolfijn Class Submarine (2)
-F-27 Friendship ASW (6)
-P-3 Orion ASW (13)
-Lynx (22)
>Norway
*Army: 19,000 Active, 146,000 Reserve
-80 Leopard 1 Tanks
-37 M48A5 Patton Tanks
-70 M24 Walker Bulldog Light Tanks
-100 M113 AIFV
-150 M113 APC
-126 M109A3 SPH
-228 M101 105mm Howitzer
-48 M114 155mm Howitzer
-108 RBS-70 SAM
-132 Bofors 40 40mm AAA
-17 O-1A Bird Dog
*Air Force: 9,100 Active, 28,000 Reserve
-72 F-16A/B
-20 NF-5A
-14 RF-5A
-3 Falcon 20 EW
-5 PC-3 Orion ASW
-6 C-130
-25 UH-1 Iroquois
-13 Bell 412
-128 Nike-Hercules Launchers
-54 MIM-23 Hawk Launchers
*Navy: 5,300 Active, 26,000 Reserve
-Storm Class Missile Boats (16)
-Snogg Class Missile Boat (6)
-Hauk Class Missile Boat (14)
-Oslo Class Frigate (5)
-Kobben Class Submarine (10)
-Vidar Class Minelayer
-5 Sauda Class Minesweeper
-1 Tana Class Minesweeper
-5 LCT
-34 75mm, 105mm, 120mm, 127mm, 150mm Coastal Guns
*Home Guard: 85,000 Reserve
-72 Bofors 40mm AAA
~50 RH.202 20mm AAA
>>30220147
What is the point of bringing that up? The DDR and everything about the USSR was still awful and completely unjustifiable.
>>30220048
>DDR
>worse than the Nazis
>ever
the Stasi were repressive as fuck and did some extremely messed up shit, but the government they served didn't commit genocide on a massive scale.
>>30219971
again, czechoslovakia didnt have a single mig 25
>Portugal
*Army: 44,000 Active, 190,000 Reserve
-86 M-48A5 Patton Tanks
-50 M-47 Patton Tanks
-142 M113 APC
-18 Chaimite APC
-56 AML-60/90 AFVs
-32 Ferret Armored Cars
-30 Saladin Armored Cars
-6 M109A2 SPH
-60 M101 105mm Howitzer
-20 Mod.56 105mm Howitzer
-40 M114 155mm Howitzer
-34 M163 SPAAG
-322 Bofors L60 40mm AAA
-30 RH.202 20mm AAA
-57 Blowpipe
*Air Force: 11,000 Active
-33 A-7 Corsair II
-32 G.91
-6 P-3 Orion
-5 C-130
-22 C-212
-12 T-38 Talon
-15 T-33 Shooting Star
-20 SA-330 Puma
-35 SA-316
*Navy: 13,000 Active
-Joao Coutinho Class Corvette (6)
-Baptista de Andrade Class Corvette (4)
-Joao Belo Class Frigate (4)
-Daphne Class Submarine (3)
-7 LCM
>Spain
*Army: 201,00 Active, 142,700 Reserve
-299 AMX-30E Tanks
-162 M-48A5E2 Patton Tanks
-375 M-47E1/2 Patton Tanks
-1,200 M113 APC
-650 BMR-600 APC
-78 M109A1/B SPH
-48 M108 SPH
-4 M110A2 SPH
-12 M107 SPH
-6 M44A1 SPH (Reserve)
-24 M115 203mm Towed
-84 M114 155mm Towed
-400 M101 105mm Towed
-170 Mod.56 105mm Towed
-176 A-19 122mm Towed
-15 Teruel 140mm MLRS
-329 GAI-BO1 20mm AAA
-96 GDF-002 35mm AAA
-240 Bofors L70 25mm AAAA
-48 MIM-23 Hawk Launchers
-9 Nike-Hercules Launchers
-13 Roland Launchers
-13 Aspide Launchers
-3 Bell 204
-71 UH-1 Iroquois
-6 Bell 212
-17 Bell 206
-30 CH-47 Chinook
*Air Force: 33,700 Active, 52,900 Reserve
-66 EF-18A/B Hornet
-23 Mirage-III
-32 F-4C Phantom II
-12 RF-4C Phantom II
-35 F-5A Tiger
-12 RF-5A Tiger
-59 Mirage F-1
-12 C-130
-77 C-212
-87 C-101
-13 CL-215
-18 DHC4
Marines: 7,500 Personnel, 18 M-48E, 17 Scorpion, 12 105mm, 12 M-52, 6 M109A3, 27 LVTP-7, 36 BLR
*Navy: 39,400 Active, 47,700 Reserve
-Descubierta Class Corvette (5)
-Baleares Class Frigate (5)
-Santa Maria Class Frigate (2) (Oliver Hazard Perry Class)
-Gearing Class Destroyer (4)
-Principe de Asturias Class Aircraft Carrier (1)
-Agosta Class Submarine (4)
-Daphne Class Submarine (4)
-22 AV-8 Harrier
-10 Bell 212
-13 SH-3 Sea King
-10 Hughes-369
-6 SH-60B Seahawk
*Guardia Civil: 63,000 Active, 3,000 Reserve
http://www.societaitalianastoriamilitare.org/libri%20in%20regalo/2001%20JOHNSON%20Warsaw-Pact-Order-of-Battle-June-1989.pdf
Warsaw Pact ORBAT PDF
http://www.microarmormayhem.com/NATO_ORDER_OF_BATTLE_mod_8.doc
NATO ORBAT PDF
>>30220202
That's meant to be a MiG-23 my bad
>>30220202
On the other hand, Bulgaria had some that he didnt mention. Though we returned them to the USSR after some accidents.
>>30220231
The NATO orbat is not in PDF form but doc
>>30220161
You tried to bait last time, fuck off.
>>30220161
>you literally killed the last thread with your sperg garbage.
That thread just hit the image limit and ran its course.
>>30220297
/r/ moar
where is this from?
>>30220367
fucking skinheads
>>30220367
>>30220379
>>30220395
>Jugoslavia:
*Army: 140,000 Active, 450,000 Reserve
-75 T-72 Tanks
-365 M-84 Tanks
-750 T-55 Tanks
-208 T-34 Tanks (Reserve)
-105 M-47 Patton Tanks (Reserve)
-237 M-4A3E4 Sherman Tanks (Reserve)
-63 PT-76 Light Tanks
-420 M-80A IFVs
-420 OT M-60P APCs
-180 BOV APCs
-200 BTR-40, BTR-50, BTR-152 APCs
-180 M-36 Jackson Tank Destroyers
-112 M-18 Hellcat Tank Destroyers
-12 SU-100 Tank Destroyers
-67 BRDM-2 AFVs
-100 M3 Halftracks
-40 M7 Priest SPH
-80 2S1 SPH
-108 M63 Plamen MLRS
-40 M77 Oganj MLRS
-12 M87 Orkan MLRS
-48 M1/M65/M114 155mm Towed
-92 M-84/D-20 152mm Towed
-180 M-46 130mm Towed
-120 D-30J 122mm Towed
-150 M-30 & A-19 122mm Towed
-105 M2/M56/M101 105mm Towed
-25 M115 203mm Towed
-150 M-63 & M-87 100mmmm Towed
-250 ZiS-3 & M48 76mm Towed
-60 ZSU-57-2 SPAAGs
-86 BOV-3/30 SPAAGs
-130 M53/59 Praga SPAAGs
-42 SA-6 SAM Launchers
-100 SA-9 SAM Launchers
-20 SA-13 SAM Launchers
-1,200 M55 20mm, M39 37mm, Bofors 40mm, S-60 57mm AAA
~100 FROG-7 SRBM's
-9 PC-6 Porter
*Air Force: 32,000 Active
-16 MiG-29
-130 MiG-21
-55 J-22 Orao
-80 J-21 Jastreb
-25 J-20 Kraguji
-60 G-4 Super Galeb
-20 RJ-21 Recon
-24 RG-4 Recon
-25 RJ-22 Recon
-12 MiG-21R Recon
-6 Yak-40 ELINT
-2 Learjet-35
-2 Falcon 50
-15 An-26
-4 CL-215
-80 G-2 Galeb
-70 UTVA-75
-40 YTVA-60
-120 SOKO Gazelle
-80 Mi-8
-48 SA-2 SAM Launchers
-36 SA-3 SAM Launchers
*Navy: 10,000 Active
-C-80 Class PCI (5)
-Mima Class PCI (11)
-Topcider Class Torpedo Boat (15)
-Osa Class FAC (10)
-Koncar Class FAC (6)
-Mornar Class ASW (3)
-Koni Class Corvette (2)
-Kotor Class Corvette (2)
-Heroj Class Submarine (3)
-Sava Class Submarine (2)
-Una Class Midget Submarine (6)
-501-Class LCM (4)
-211-Class LCM(10)
-601-Class LCM (25)
-Klanac Class Minesweeper (4)
-Hamclass Class Minesweeper (4)
-Nestin Class Minesweeper (6)
-8 Ka-25 ASW
-2 Ka-27 ASW
-4 Mi-14 ASW
-200 ML-20 152mm, M-46 130mm, ZiS-3 76mm, & 8.8 cm Flak 37 Coastal Guns
*Territorial Defense: 860,000 recall, 2,100,000 mobilization
*Paramilitary: 15,000 Border Guard
>>30220405
>>30220417
US troops finally receive M-14's while in Berlin
What a wonderful thread.
>>30220434
Interestingly, the British already had the L1A1 around the same time while US troops still had Garands
>>30220452
>>30220464
>>30220484
>>30220490
>>30219957
>single traitor jumping a fence to go to go to his family in West Berlin
>single
There were thousands and thousands of soldiers who didn't deflect
>>30220497
Now for the most A E S T H E T I C military of the cold war
>>30220520
>>30220534
>>30220520
>Fast
>>30220543
>>30220551
>>30220562
>>30220515
Pretty sure his family behind in East Germany
And he wasn't the first or last, either
>>30220573
>/k/'s favorite pants
>>30220584
>>30220596
>>30220610
>>30220577
He was the first. He jumped over the fence, as the first one at all. That fence was part of the wall, it was the day the Berlin wall was built.
And his family was in West Berlin, before the wall was built everyone who wanted to could work in West or East.
Also, there were a lot of people actually moving from West to East. Just look it up. There even were American soldiers deflecting to the East, a black one became a famous Schlager singer in the DDR.
>>30220618
>>30220414
daily reminder that most of this shit probably saw use during the 90's
>>30220628
>>30220644
>>30220654
>Sweden
*Army: 44,500 Active, 250,000 Reserve
-450 Centurion Tanks
-335 S-Tanks
-200 Ikv-91 Light Tanks
-600 Pbs-302 APCs
-35 Pbrbv 551 TOW Carriers
-30 BandKannon-1 SPH
-550 Type 40 105mm Towed
-140 M-39 150mm Towed
-300 FH-77 155mm Towed
-30 MIM-23 Hawk SAM Launchers
-114 Oerlikon 20mm AAA
-600 Bofors 40mm AAA
-20 Bo.105 Light Attack
-14 Bell 204
-26 Hughes-300
-19 Bell 206
*Air Force: 8,000 Active, 57,000 Reserve
-221 Saab 37 Viggen
-68 Saab 35 Draken
-22 Saab 32 Lansen Recon/ECM
-48 SF-37 Viggen Recon
-2 Caravelle ECM
-8 C-130
-3 King Air
-106 Saab 105
*Navy: 12,000 Active, 102,000 Reserve
-1 Gotebord FAC
-2 Stockholm FAC
-16 Hugin FAC
-12 Norrkoping FAC
-4 Vastergotland Class Submarine
-3 Nacken Class Submarine
-5 Sjoormen Class Submarine
-1 Carlskrona Minelayer
-2 Alvsborg Minelayer
-6 Landsori Minesweeper
-4 Arko Minesweeper
-21 LCM, 80 LCU
-34 m/57 75mm Coastal Guns
-6 M/50 105mm Coastal Guns
-15 ERSTA 120mm Coastal Guns
-9 CD-80 Karin SPH Coastal Gun
~50 RBS-17 Hellfire, RBS-15 Anti-Ship Missile Launchers
-30 Bofors 40mm AAA
-1 C-212
-14 CH-46 Seaknight
-9 Bell 206
*Home Guard: 300,000
*Local Defense Forces: 100,000
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>>30220677
Some Bright Star in Egypt
My eldest brother had done his National Service in Germany and moved there after getting out of the Army. I had two weeks leave in 1963 so I went to visit him and his girlfriend in Berlin. They were all arty types (aside from my brother, who had done his best to hide it), involved in theatre, very political and all very affluent.
We ended up in a bar and a woman there, probably in her mid 20s, took an interest in what I was doing. I talked for a while as she was older than me and a lot better looking than the girlfriend I had back home, and most importantly definitely up for a lot more. I flirted (as best as an 18 year old could) and she seemed to take a genuine interest in me. My brother tried to get me to go home with him so I told him to mind his own business, in less polite terms. This stunner was really into me. Unfortunately I didn't have a lot to say or divulge and she seemed disappointed, she thought I was older than I actually was and the morning after kicked me out without so much as a kiss. I don't know if it was the beer or the schnapps or naivety, but I wasn't at all suspicious of a beautiful woman in her mid 20s asking me all sorts of questions about the British Army before having sex.
I returned to my brothers flat and he and his hippy girlfriend were having an argument. They thought I'd been turned. I thought I'd fallen in love. Thus ended my one night career in espionage.
The 60s were the most fun I've had in my life.
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>>30220910
>Finland
*Army: 27,800 Active, 460,000 Reserve
-80 T-72 Tanks
-100 T-54/55 Tanks
-15 PT-76 Light Tanks
-30 BMP-1 & 20 BMP-2 IFVs
-90 BTR-50 APCs
-70 BTR-60 APCs
-80 Sisu Pasi APCs
-10 MT-LB APCs
-24 2S1 SPH
-24 BM-21 MLRS
-70 Haubits m/40 & leFH 1918105mm Towed
-268 D-30 122mm Towed
-170 M-46 130mm Towed
-240 2A36 & M1938 152mm Towed
-12 K-83 155mm Towed
-410 D-10T 100mm, 122-K-60 122mm, A-19 122mm, M-46 130mm, 130-K-90-60 130mm, 130-53-TK 130mm, ML-20 & D-1 152mm Coastal Guns
-12 ZSU-57-2 SPAAG
-100 ZU-23-2 23mm AAA
-20 GDF-002 35mm AAA
-100 L60 40mm AAA
-12 S-60 57mm AAA
-9 SA-3 SAM Launchers
*Air Force: 1,800 Active, 30,000 Reserve
-24 MiG-21bis
-40 Saab 35 Draken
-8 BAE Hawk Recon
-3 Learjet 35 ELINT
-3 Fokker F27
-37 BAE Hawk
-28 L-70 Vinka
-6 CM-170 Magister
-2 Hughes-500
-7 Mi-8
*Navy: 1,400 Active, 12,000 Reserve
-2 Turunmaa Class ASW Gunboat
-4 Helsinki Class FAC
-4 Tuima/Osa-II Class FAC
-2 Kiisla PBs
-3 Ruissalo PBs
-6 Nuoli PBs
-1 Ponkjanmaa Minelayer
-1 Keihassalmi Minelayer
-6 Kuha Minesweeper
-3 Kampela LCU, 6 Kala LCU, 5 Kave LCU
*Local Defense Forces: 200,000 Reserve
*Frontier Guard: 4,400 Active, 20,000 Reserve
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>>30220927
Where did you find this information regarding nations strenght in 1988?
>>30220667
There are infact plenty of errors here, here is the most important ones.
Total Army personel (including the Homeguard) was 700 - 800 000
The Local Defence battailons consisted of about 300 000 and the Homeguard of 100 000. So you seem to have mixed them up.
There was only 24 Bkan 1s ever produced.
We never had any Oerlikon 20mm AAAs, those were Bofors m40-70 20mm AAAs.
Many more Drakens were in reserve, over 600 was produced and most of them were scrapped in the 90s.
There was no RBS-15 launchers in the mid or late 80s. They were truckmounted and produced in the mid 90s. One heavy costal battery with Rb 08 did however exist.
>>30220625
Doesn't change the fact that communism was a shitty regime to live under.
There is just something nice about late 80's/90's US woodland. Its hard to explain.
Communist Albania, unaligned with the USSR and essentially the North Korea of Europe. Was very hard finding information on their stocks.
*Army: 35,000 Active, 150,000 Reserve
-200 T-54 & Type 59 Tanks
-100 T-34 Tank
-86 Type 63 APCs
-200 BTR-40 APCs
-200 BTR-50 APCs
-150 Type 77/BTR-50 APCs
-200 BTR-152 APCs
-30 BRDM-1 AFVs
-100 SU-100 Tank Destroyers
-50 SU-76 SPG
~500 Type 66/D-20, D-1, and ML-20 152mm Towed
~150 Type 59/M-46 130mm Towed
~300 A-19, Type 54/M-30, Type 60/D-74 122mm Towed
~100 Type 86 & BS-3 100mm Towed
~300 D-44 85mm & ZiS-3 76mm Towed
~100 Type 63 MLRS
~20 Type 70 MLRS
-18 BM-13 MLRS
~150 ZPU 14.5mm, ZU-23 23mm, 61-K/Type 65 37mm, S-60/Type 59 57mm, 52-K/Type 56 85mm, KS-19 100mm AAA
-22 SA-2 SAM Launchers
*Air Force: 11,000 Active 3,000 Reserve
-20 J-7 (MiG-21)
-30 J-6 (MiG-19)
-35 J-5 (MiG-17)
-10 J-2 (MiG-15)
-10 An-2
-3 Il-14
-6 Li-2
-20 Z-5 (MI-4)
-8 CJ-5
-6 Yak-11
*Navy: 2,000 Active 2,000 Reserve
-29 Type 025 Huchuan Torpedo Boats
-2 Krondtadt ASW
-6 Type 062 Shanghai-II PBs
-1 T-301 Minesweeper
-5 Whiskey Class Submarines
*Paramilitary: 10,000 Sigurimi Internal Troops, 7,000 Border Guard
>>30220985
IISS Military Balance, old Janes books, online ORBATs I linked in this thread already
>>30221010
This is interesting, my stats for Sweden came from this book:
https://www.amazon.com/Military-Balance-1988-1989-No-Author/dp/0860791491?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0
>>30219957
That guy had an interesting life, if you look him up. He ended up hero-ing himself in the 80s though.
>>30221122
Okay, my stats are from the people who served at that time.
>>30220339
Whisky on the rocks, I'll take one.
My dad once told me that people that refused conscription were send to West Berlin so they could see the NVA's set up at the border.
The funny thing is that he still hates pretty much anything from the old warsaw pact including the commie krauts and Trabant cars.
>>30220161
Yup, that shit ruined it. Abandoning thread.
>>30221494
Well nobody is going to miss people like you.
>>30221353
>hates Trabant cars
Completely normal tвh. They are shit.
>>30221745
Bulgarian paratroopers in the 80's
>>30221803
Bulgarian border forces
>>30221828
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6Dgye4eczk (Bulgarian army maneuvers)
pic: Bulgarian border guard pointing to a sign saying "Border zone, I shoot without a warning"
>>30222079
Military maneuvers.
>>30222116
Troops disembarking from a BTR-60.
>>30222135
Bulgarian MiG-21PFM
>>30222192
Conscripts 1
>>30222215
Conscripts 2
>>30221010
>There was no RBS-15 launchers in the mid or late 80s.
Those probably had been ordered at that point, but in wonderful world of IISS that alone makes 'em appear out of thin air.
>>30221103
>IISS Military Balance
IISS Military Balance needs to be taken with a gigantic grain of salt. Their numbers are based on very much official truth. Back during cold war they could be bit vague when it comes to numbers. Finland bought five or _more_ TOW anti-tank missile systems back in 1982, what did 2003 IISS Military Balance say about it... Finland has 5 TOW systems. It's supposed to be main armament for brigade level heavy anti-tank missile companies. I guess it's single launcher per company.
>>30220041
So... no love for Canada?
I know we had a base in Germany...
I was literally born on it.
Or did we get rolled on into some other country's numbers.
>>30220822
Looks like she has a good bum for an 80's gal
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>>30220975
Dat tactical maglight
T-72A obr. 1983g in Moscow 1991 during the August Putsch.
Despite the newer T-72B being introduced in 1985, T-72As still made up a significant proportion of the T-72 fleet by 1991 and were still in service even in 'elite' divisions.
T-64s retreat from Hungary April 25, 1989.
>>30220158
these are the worst posts. please never post again
Does anybody know of cold war gone hot books set in Europe
>>30222311
6000-8000 Men part of 4CMBG Combat brigade group. Basically a light mech. division.
144-288 fighters, 4 air stations 3 squadrons each, first equipped with tactical nukes, then removed later.
Probably a couple thousand to tend to the aircraft.
100,000 Men ready to be deployed though.
Canadian Restigouche class destroyer underway.
>>30220625
Look Ivan you can keep trying to prop up your evil ideal, but why don't you do us all a favor and die.
>>30223807
Red Storm Rising
>>30219781
dat loli... she is probably a gmilf by now
>>30220625
Thousands of civilians attempted to cross over to the west, and they far outnumber the amount that defected to the east. I assumed you were sarcastic at first, but if you're serious you seriously need to have your head checked.
>>30222311
The figures were immediately available in Europe, the US and Canada could have pumped a lot more forces into the region with REFORGER quite quickly and the Soviets could have put in 1 million + troops into Europe even quicker.
The US Army III Corps (1st, 4th, & 5th ID, 1st Cavalry, 2nd Armored plus misc brigades/regiments) and 82nd/101st Airborne Divisions were designed to get to Europe within 30 days or so. The Canadian 1st Infantry Division and Special Service Force would be a part of the force attached to the U.S. VII Corps.
Granted both sides simply would have nuked each other into oblivion in the opening salvos, so the circumstances of who managed to come out better would determine the conventional phase.
>>30224542
Specifically it was:
>8th Canadian Hussars - 59 Leopard 1's, 12 Lynx, 23 M113, 3 Leopard ARVs
>1st Battalion Royal 22nd Regiment
>3rd Battalion, Royal Canadian Regiment
>4th Combat Engineer Regiment
-1st Royal Horse Artillery: 24 M109, 15 Blowpipe
>444th Helicopter Squadron: 12 OH-58
>4th AD Regiment - Oerlikon 35mm & Javelins
>>30220377
kek
>>30220663
manlets unite
For my last copypasta, here's Chinese forces of the same era. Needless to say the PLA has come a LONG way since the Cold War, where they would have potentially fought the Soviets as a 2nd front in support of NATO. Starting by the late 1970's, the US began to provide substantial support for China and both sides hinted that the other would intervene on their behalf in the event of a major war with the USSR.
>PLA Ground Force: ~2,300,000 Active, ~1,000,000 on immediate Reserve
-150 Type 88 Tanks
-200 Type 69/79 Tanks
~6,000+ Type 59 (T-54) Tanks
~700+ Type 58 (T-34) Tanks
-1,200 Type 63 Light Tanks
-800 Type 62 Light Tanks
-2,800 APCs (Type 63, WZ-523, Type 85, Type 55/BTR-40, Type 56/BTR-152, Type 77/BTR-50)
-800-1,000 Type 86 IFVs (BMP-1)
~700-800 SPH (Type 54 & Type 85 122mm, Type 83 152mm)
-4,500 MLRS (Type 63 107mm, Type 81/83/89/122mm (Grad), Type 63/70/82/85 130mm (BM-14) )
-14,500 Towed Guns (Type 66/D-20 & Type 54/D-1 152mm, Type 59/M-46 130mm, Type 85/D-30, Type 60/D-74, & Type 54/M-30 122mm)
-15,000 Anti-Tank Guns(Type 86, Type 73/T-12, & Type 59/BS-3 100mm, Type 55/D-44 85mm)
-200-300 Type 80 (ZSU-57-2) SPAAG
-50-75 HQ-61 (Aspide) SAM Launchers
~15,000 AAA (Type 56/ZPU 14.5mm, Type 80/ZU-23-2 23mm, Type 55/63/65/74/61-K 37mm, Type 59/S-50 57mm, Type 56/KS-18 85mm, Type 59/KS-19 100mm)
>PLA Air Force: ~470,000 Active, ~100,000 on immediate Reserve
-50-100 J-8
-500 J-7 (MiG-21)
-3,000 J-6 (MiG-19)
-400 J-5 (MiG-17)
-500 Q-5 (MiG-19)
-120 H-6 (Tu-16)
-350 H-5 (Il-28)
-300 Y-5 (An-2)
-20 Y-7 (An-24)
-25 Y-8 (An-12)
-50 Li-2
-30 Il-14
-10 Il-18
-18 HS121 Trident
~1,000 CJ-5/6 (Yak-18), J-/JJ-2 (MiG-15), JJ-5 (MiG-17), JJ-6 (MiG-19) Trainers
-8 SA-342
-15 Z-9 (AS-365)
~250 Z-5 (Mi-5)
-6 AS-332
-24 Sikorsky S-70
-300+ HQ-2 (SA-2) SAM Launchers
>2nd Artillery Corps (strategic missiles): ~90,000 active
~2-3 DF-5 ICBMs
~6-10 DF-4 ICBM's
~80-100 DF-3 IRBM's
~200-300 DF-2 MRBM's (SS-3's)
~500-600 DF-11 SRBM's
~100-200 DF-15 SRBM's
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>PLA Navy: ~260,000 Active, ~50,000 on immediate reserve
-2 Gnevny Class Destroyer
-16 Type 051 Luda (Kolin) Destroyers
-9 Type 6601 Chengdu & Type 065 Jiangnan Class Frigates (Riga)
-27 Type 053 Jianghu Class Frigates
-125 Type 021 Huangfeng (Osa-I) Missile Boats
-90 Type 024 Hegu (Komar) Missile Boats
-60 P-6 Torpedo Boats
~100 Type 025 Huchuan Torpedo Boats
-90 Type 037 Hainan ASW Gunboats
-10 Kronstadt ASW Gunboats
~300 Type 062 Shanghai Gunboats
-84 Type 033 (Romeo) Submarines
-4 Han SSN
-1 Romeo SSG
-100 J-7 (MiG-21)
-300 J-6 (MiG-19)
-200 J-5 (MiG-17)
-50 Q-5 (MiG-19)
-30 H-6 (Tu-16)
-130 H-5 (Il-28)
-5 Be-6 ASW
-4 Y-8 ASW
-6 Z-9 (AS-365)
-40 Z-5 (Mi-4)
-15 SA-321
>PLA Militia: ~12,000,000. Light infantry with small arms and RPG's transported in mostly aquisitioned civilian vehicles. Designed to provide rear and logistical duties for PLA. Officially a guerrilla popular army to resist foreign invasion. Performed poorly in the 1979 war with Vietnam
>People's Armed Police: ~1,850,000 Designed to suppress internal rebellion and provide rear operations for PLA in war
>>30219957
Didnt really see a lot of people running from west to east....
>>30220161
Eat shit and die, faggot
>>30221353
>NVA
So....NVA doesnt stand for the Vietnamese in this context, right?
>>30226595
National Volks Armee
the commie kraut army
>>30220663
"Hey, Ivan, what are you looking at? Want a punch?"
"What are saying, comrade?"
can we post cold war era police/counter terrorists?
>>30223807
Team Yankee by Harold Coyle
