Post and discuss stuff pertaining to the multiple on going armed conflicts in the middle east.
Mod deleted the old thread, I'm guessing for autism. Just be more civil nerds and dont even bother replying to shitposting.
>>30217990
Yes it sucks , I was just about to post a reply too. I guess since the last thread was nuked i'll post some side news from eastern Homs. IS and the SAA are continuing to fight around Jazal oil field. People shouldn't forget IS never lost Shaer and are still active in the area.
>>30217990
Lastest Step map of the YPG/SDF at Manbji. Looks like a T rex is going chomp on it.
I was also about to post reports, before the thread got deleted. Anyway;
- SDF/YPG are still advancing near Manbij, they took some more villages early today. There are reports that the whole city is already encircled, but they have not been confirmed. But the only road to leave Manbij, if was not already cutted, is probably already under fire from the SDF. Charles Lister said that SDF/YPG killed ISIS Manbij Emir, "Osama al-Tunisi," along with his family as they attempted to flee to Al-Bab.
The pic is the now repaired, in a very simplistic fashion, Qare Qowzaq bridge.
Here's the old thread:
>>30207466
>>30218085
Oh, yes, I forget; it was deleted.
Anyway, here's the corpse of said Emir.
>>30218085
Did they just almost damed the river? kek
https://twitter.com/AJABreaking/status/740895367038947329
Update on the quiet village of Saqlawiyah north of Fallujah. After losing 60 men in a large ambush Iraqi forces had to pull out of parts of the village. This after ISF forces have advanced into parts of southern Fallujah city yesterday and today.
Reports that the Rebels are on the move again, in South Aleppo, after yet another failed assault from the Shia Militias/SAA to retake Humayra, last night. Pro Rebel sources are saying that the Rebels have captured Al Qarassi and Zaytan/zitan.
In North Aleppo, by the latest pro rebel reports, from yesterday, the villages of Tal Hussein, Ihtimalat, Kafrah, Tilalayn, Braghidah and Sawran are still on ISIS hands.
In the southern area of Mare, the YPG from the Afrin pocket decided to attack ISIS villages; ISIS claims to has repelled YPG attacks on Harbul and Umm Hawsh, while the YPG claims the capture of two villages. There also reports that the Rebels from Mare attacked ISIS Tal Malid.
Less important, a Rebel kurdish faction, from the FSA, the Kurdish Revolutionary Battalion decided that they will shell Afrin, arguing that YPG has not released their men.
>>30218212
Has anyone in this whole fucking war thought it might be a BAD idea to broadcast your movements on social fucking media?
YPG is trollin ISIS way too much lately
>pic related
>>30218232
Lastly a Deir update, heavy fighting at the SAM site by the airbase. SAA forces successfully re gained parts of Mt. Thardah. This was big for them, at least showing they can counter attack a little bit.
Deir Ezzor SS disputes ISs claim they captured the SAM site saying they already had control of it anyway. Regardless this and Rusafe are the conflict areas now.
>>30218232
Squeel like piggie
>inb4 dueling banjos
>>30218058
I thought that the YPG was in control over a section of the highway? This map looks slightly dated by a day or so
>>30218421
New go pro footage of Jaf in Humayra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1jRzQ2w8lw
>>30218212
If you have a different map you are more than welcome to post it.
I don't have time to post more today so i'll leave it at that
>>30218490
sorry it's not new, to busy to verify. This is the screen shot of the new footage but I haven't found it yet.
>>30218270
Hahaha
>>30218322
>this and Rusafe are the conflict areas now
>Rusafe
> R u safe
tandem
>>30219273
>This is for people
Breaking news; pro SAA sources are claiming that the SAA Tiger Forces started their North Aleppo operation moments ago, launching a assault on al Mallah farms, backed by Ruaf and Syaaf.
>>30219721
100 bucks on the attack failing after a day or two.
>>30219725
Being the North Aleppo region, I don't doubt that.
I forgot to mention that serving as sidekicks/cannon fodder for the Tiger forces, will be the Quds Brigade, the Ba'ath Brigades and the NDF.
I aint gonna be able to follow the action now, as I must leave. But before I leave, this image of a ISIS barricade in the Ithriya-Raqqa highway ; the ISIS guy in charge of deplying those mines was probably one big lazy son of bitch.
>>30219725
They always do. It's amazing how slow the SAA has been to retake key locations despite a massive advantage in firepower and despite massive Russian/Iranian assistance to the point where they're basically leading the operations for them. But still years in and horrible progress.
"Victory any day now" has been the mantra of the Assadfag crowd for 5 years now.
>>30219788
Masters of concealment.
>>30219721
Operations started hours ago according to Ivan. Rebels are calming to have repelled the attack and some pro regime source is calming remarkable progress by SAA, probably both sides taking a fluidic approach to truth.
On the other side of Aleppo pro rebel are claiming JAF captured Zaytan and that battle for Khalasah has started with a SVBIED opening.
>>30219788
Considering that in the last three, four assaults by Nusra we saw that they just drive up the main road into the village in question, just putting mines like that might have some effect. Also if he was smart and ran a trip wire between them it could be a party.
>>30219797
> They always do
when they broke the siege of nubl and cut of north aleppo from the city? yeah a great disaster that was. Or when the SAA first led the offensive in south aleppo and capped Al Hadher, Al-Eis and Khan Tuman?
Victory for the SAA is closer then victory for the jihadist scum.
> implying the 'rebels' dont get any foreign support or foreign fighters
kill yourself lowlife scum
>>30219846
>
SAA has a huge advantage in everything and more meaningful international support. Russian troops and round-the-clock bombing, and thousands of Iranians/Hezbollah to lead and fight for you is a bit more helpful then some TOWs.
SAA has performed miserably in this conflict, which btw is largely conventional. Despite every advantage imaginable they still don't control 2/3 of their own territory and are struggling to make slow gains even as ISIS is by all accounts collapsing.
I have no idea how Assad intended to "retake Golan" when his forces were not up to the task of defeating kids in toyotas without multiple countries coming to rescue him. Hell, even Iraniaen/Hezbollah support was not enough to save them and they had to get Russia to intervene directly just to stabilize things.
>>30219870
Nusra has shown more capability in mechanized warfare than SAA, and SAA has been training in mechanized warfare for 60 years.
>>30219273
Oh god. The amount of shit they have over there now. Al nusra has night vision and tows, there are more effective Russian atgms floating around than ever, and someone has been giving these fucks manpads
>>30219797
"Victory any day now" has not been assadboos mantra you fuck, we have real expectations and have always said the war would keep going for at least a few more years, and this is spearheaded by the tiger forces and they tend to get shit done so I don't think it'll strait up fail if it's worst case scenario
>>30219900
The Nusra mechanized platoon followed by technicals rush has worked really well against the Shia militias so far. They're really gonna have to adapt or keep losing ground.
>Bombing doesn't stop with all types of aircraft!
>>30220952
What did he mean by this?
>>30218030
A weapon to surpass metal gear?
>>30221005
METAL GEAR?
The Battles in western Sinjar City
more western Sinjar City
DeirEzzor
DeirEzzor
some stuff from Nigeria
note all of this is just cuz I found It I not supporting the bad guys
The Emir of Manbij has been killed when he was fleeing Manbij with his whole family towards Al-Bab. No survivors.
Does anyone know the status of the foreign ISIS troops' families in Manbij?
nigeria
Nigeria 2
>>30221372
That's on mt theradah or w/e right? That place is a fucking meat grinder. Attack one day lose it the exit then counter attack then rinse wash repeat
>>30221277
>>30221288
ISIS is in Sinjar?
>>30219721
Best of luck SAA
>>30219788
Lmao is this a joke?
>>30219797
>"Victory any day now" has been the mantra of the Assadfag crowd for 5 years now
>>30219870
>SAA has a huge advantage in everything and more meaningful international support.
Uhh no they do not.
And Russians only showed up in October, and Iranians in July. Since then the SAA's territory has increased dramatically.
So either lurk more, or go shitpost somewhere else.
What is the strategic importance of Khan Touman?
>>30225017
Khan Touman is very close to the M5 highway , the gateway to Aleppo.
Other than that the villages is surrounded by flat ground making it hard to assault.
I've always wondered, where do people in the middle east get their cars? I mean I doubt with their standard of living the average person could afford a brand new toyota or some shit, so where do they all come from? Do other asian countries just ship their shitty old cars there and sell them for dirt cheap?
>>30225311
.. people that arent in the dirt farming regions can afford cars because they have things like businesses and jobs. jesus fucking christ man everything that isnt the first world isnt in the fucking stone age.
>>30223407
Iran has been there since ~2014, but it was Quds force only and Hezbollah (which is an extension of the Quds Force). In July they deployed regular IRGC battalions which again proved extremely ineffective and forced Russian intervention.
ISIS, Nusra, FSA, etc. don't have multiple regional and supposed world powers fighting for it so if anything I'm surprised they've been able to still retain so much control in the face of overwhelming forces. And no, foreign volunteers != having the armies doing your fighting for you
>>30225311
Outside of Yemen most people in the Middle East aren't that poor globally speaking. Though Egypt has a lot of poverty.
another pkk attack in south-eastern turkey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMekuqZWBl0
2 police, 3 civilians died
>>30225990
uhhhh
UUHHHHHH
isis and al nusra have a lot of funding and support from turkey and the saudis and gulf states and no foreign volunteers?! are you out of your fucking mind? did you forget the 2 years where everyone and their fucking mom was going down to join them, and western countries were scrambling to find ways to prevent it?
and the fsa has had some help from uncle sam and not much from anyone else, their lack of combat experience and support is kinda why they ended up being butt fucked
>>30226267 >>30225990
it pretty much turned into the shia powers funding every ethnic group that wasnt kurdish or sunni and the sunni powers funding every fucking sunni group they could shove weapons and funnel man power too, stop talking out of your ass
>>30225311
A car in a poorer country will cost less. Also, Syria had a pretty high-tier income per capita before the war.
>>30226003
This.
Being oil-rich meant that these countries can afford to ship in lots of cars, mostly roomy sedans, 4x4s, commercial trucks and vans, and various gray imports.
With heavy duty vehicles especially often being shunted back and forth between these countries it's no surprise there are ample supply of vehicles to build technicals and VBIEDs out of.
Should Manbij eventually fall to the SDF, do you reckon they'll eventually advance to al-Bab and probably join up with SAA territory around Kweiris?
SAA living up to its reputation. Zinki captured a T-90 in North Aleppo.
>>30226583
Sauce?
>>30226771
https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/741168564699299840
>>30226319
It had a small downturn since 2008 because of the global crisis (one of the reasons for the start of protests), but yes, you're generally correct.
>>30226494
this is probably their long term objective
if they control that amount of syrian territory assad wont fuck with them and will probably give them a tonne of autonomy in whatever kind of state syria turns out to be after this war.
this in turn will give the kurds a huge and protected staging area from which to start a full on insurgency in southern turkey. as well as a wealth of experienced fighters to really ram it up the turk's ass.
we may be witnessing the birth of a new state.
>>30226583
Well the good thing is that T-90 in question wasn't lost due to poor reliability
https://twitter.com/abokeram/status/741197646203916288
Its up an moving
>>30226880
I thought the discontent originated more from drought and poor harvests for much of the late-2000s that led to spiraling costs of basic living. Syria may had been relativity high in average income, but it pushed strongly for self-sufficiency for its food source and so was highly dependent on domestic agriculture to supply its population.
When that industry collapsed from harsh weather and poor irrigation management, the government wasn't able to compensate for the declining output and so support of the government eroded, especially in more conservative rural populations that were bitten the hardest by this.
THEY'VE DONE IT THE ABSOLUTE MADMEN (and women)
>>30227508
Ouch. If ISIS does not have the means to launch a serious counter-attack, it smells very bad for them.
Cuz if they dont stop the YPG/SDF now, their link with Turkey is basically severed.
About Allah you know we do not have neither the power nor the power over them except from thee! O Allah do not let them fly over us while you are on them! O Allah, do not let them fly over us while you are on them! Oh, Allah will not let them fly over us while you are on them! There is none worthy of worship except you! Glory be to You! We ask Your forgiveness and repent to You. O Allah, indeed you are our Lord and we have enough, you Mogushestvenny, strong! O Allah let them down on the ground and not allow them to rise above us truly you the owner of Power, Severe in punishment! Oh, Allah will make them last group coming to us after which they will no longer be able to step on us but on the contrary, we will step on them! There is none worthy of worship except You! Glory be to You! Truly, we have been one of the wrongdoers! We ask Your forgiveness and repent to You. O Allah not punish us for what the foolish among us have done! Verily Allah sufficient for us, and how beautiful the Trustee and Guardian! To Him we use, to Him we trust the business! Exalted is He! What a wonderful patron! What a wonderful Helper! And may Allah bless our Prophet Muhammad, his family, his Companions and those who followed them! Amine!
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/09/cia-and-pentagon-bicker-while-russia-wipes-out-u-s-backed-rebels.html?via=mobile&source=twitter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9XV2ju382A
>>30227635
What's this?
>>30227668
White posphorous?
>>30225990
(You)
>>30227546
Not yet.
But soon.
https://twitter.com/WoDSerbia/status/741251826742353920
Random defense interest person claiming the tank that cooked off and exploded yesterday due to a TOW was a T-90 as well.
Even if it wasn't so much for the shtora system or that weird box thing the SAA was putting on everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuFqzMWg-oI
>>30227767
Is it really that hard for one guy to always keep on a lookout for missiles?
Just put a spotter above the tank who can yell at the tank if something is fired.
Another picture of the captured T-90 from the Mallah farms battle. This is the first verified case i know of a T-90 captured intact.
It wasn't all success for rebels yesterday though as the SAA/Shia militas still hold Zaytan and Khalasah.
As it's already apparent, the so awaited SAA assault in North Aleppo ended in a giant "Wow, it was nothing" again, as some anons already expected. I feel shameful for have expected something different for this time, even if we still need to see if the SAA will try again today or just leit be, again.
The good news for SAA is reports that they took Sfaiyah gas field and Rasafah junction, in the Ithrya-Raqqa highway, and are now 20km from Tabqa airbase, as well reports of SAA progress east of Palmyra.
Also, from Libya, as many of you probably already read/heard, the Government forces have reached the center of ISIS held Sirte. And with that, comes lots of stupidly funny footage of the Libyan forces.
Another IRGC officer was killed yesterday in southern Aleppo. He better have. If your cannon fodder dies you should die with them.
There is nothing worse to me than a officer sending men to their deaths while he chills in the rear.
>>30226583
could they sell it to the US?
>>30227926
i heard the rebels retreated from al-qarassi aswell. can u confirm?
>>30228140
No but there is a SAA/Shia counter attack ongoing there right now.
>>30219846
>kill yourself lowlife scum
why so mad my dear assadfag?
Mandic's being awfully cunty today.
>>30228065
>nothing worse to me than a officer sending men to their deaths while he chills in the rear
t. guy who doesn't know anything about military
>>30228456
I was referring to the Iranian human wave tactics specifically and their throw away troops. The Iranian commander in charge should die with them just in principle.
>>30227926
NOT TRUE!!! PROOOOFFFS!!!
>>30228512
YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE PHOTO WAS SHOPPED, I AM A EXPERT IN ABODE!
>>30228587
PROFI!!!!!!
>>30221713
I thought that was another case of Mark I plumbing at first.
>>30227790
>Is it really that hard for one guy to always keep on a lookout for missiles?
Uhh yeah. How can you be alert constantly while trying to watch yourself 360°, as well trying to spot something so low key as a launch signature and then having like 1-4 seconds to react or die.
>>30227790
yes
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-prisoners-idUSKCN0YW1T9
>On Thursday, U.N. Syria envoy Staffan de Mistura said he had information from Russia and Syria that "some substantial number of fighters appeared to have been released".
>Syria's government has freed prisoners on condition that they join the army upon their release
I can see several ways this could go horribly wrong. The real issue is the SAAs manpower.
>>30229357
Are they THAT bad in terms of manpower?
>>30229388
Yes. SAA and NDF manpower is bled white. Notice how around Aleppo practically half the government troops aren't even Syrians...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjnj5gd0cYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-dF8wg51s0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxsY-eCRuis
>>30229677
He had one job.... couldn't even do that right.
Is deir ezzor the Stalingrad of this war?
>>30229643
> that first video.
Good job SAA
What do you guys think: IS retreats till the airbase and tabqa itself and put of a stiff fight, or do they get rekt all the way?
>>30226494
They will probably take Al Bab, as they claim it part of Rojava and appears in their Rojava office paintings, but aside from that I dont see they coming too much close to the Kweires AB area.
>>30228512
>>30228587
I gonna piss my pants.
>>30229388
Is even worse than you can imagine, because they are each day closer from being equal, in matter of organization and formation, with their Rebel enemies, as; many former units of the SAA only exist in name by now, the majority of their fighting force is formed by more independent particular units/militias, and, they have little to no time to train properly their new soldiers.
>>30229749
Pretty much one of the number of cities that has almost been destroyed.
>>30229749
That would be Aleppo probably. Though Deir ez zour matches the German vs Russian brutality and cruelty. SAA and ISIS just slaughter each other, take no prisoners, desecrate corpses, etc.
>>30229932
i mean deaths from both sides
>>30229996
Nah,
I mean you don't really have Stalingrad level of death in Syria. What you have is a constant grinding and maiming of people.
Some fotos popping up of dead JaF in South Aleppo who were ambushed near Khalsa. It also seems the militia were able to recap Al-Qarassi today
>>30230022
but it is the battle resulting in the most death in a concentrated area right (thats what i meant, its all relative to the scale of the conflict)
SAS breaking the Geneva conventions, in Libya.
>>30229932
How do you even fight in that environment? It's not as if you can put down suppressive fire in the windows and move up, there's a hole a rifle could poke through every 6 inches!
>>30230854
Flamethrowers, or just leveling the place so hard that in the entire city not two bricks are stacked on each other.
>>30230854
that is exactly why some frontlines are static since years
>>30227767
>They had the fucking latches open again
Every time. If they need to cool off or something, they should just put a fun inside the tank
So, I know that the SAA doesn't have time to properly train it's soldiers now, but how does ISIS stand on equal footing and even beat them? Surely some basic training is better than whatever ISIS uses to train fighters
>>30228129
I'm sure the CIA/DOD would LOVE to get their hands on a T-90
>>30231093
It's a tank with 25 years, its systems are not that advanced.
>>30229995
Btw Deir Ezzor city is lighting up right this moment. Heavy fighting is reported, IS making VBIED claims, explosions everywhere aka a average night in Deir Ezzor.
>>30231146
I bet that the ones fighting in Syria are not equipped with cutting edge technology.
Besides, in a few years the T-14 will be there, so what's the point ?
>>30231087
On the ground news guy interviewed a former IS fighter a week ago and he said in the interview their training was similar to SAA basic training because the cadre(so to speak) were ex SAA. A lot of hazing people , breaking people down to follow orders, told they were pieces of shit. It all sounded like vanilla basic training stuff.
New Step map of the SAA offensive toward Tabqah
>>30231327
The penis keeps getting more and more erect, I see.
Can someone tell me what weapon this is which the USA donated to the moderate secular revolutionary freedom fighter opposition?
Thanks and Inshallah to you
Who do you support?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10450831
>>30231526
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milkor_MGL
maybe this?
Kurds have stormed Arima. That puts them halfway to al-bab.
>>30227966
What is that?
>>30228512
Arabs abandoning tanks doesn't require proof.
It's when people claim tows kill the tank that we need better proof than a grainy youtube video.
>>30228786
I guess so.
I assume the rocket coming at you is almost invisible.
>>30229909
As long as you pay them money and they are Shia, I'd not worry too much.
Rebels are in a worse state.
>>30231327
They better keep a fast reaction group with trucks in that area. Don't want the ISIS fucks raiding and cutting you off.
Just 20 guys with technicals and radios.
>>30231618
The foregrip looks different.
But it's at least something similar to the MGL.
I honestly would love one of those.
>>30231526
>>30231618
>>30231869
maybe a RGP-40?
>>30229749
I'd say that's Kobane.
>>30219797
>"Victory any day now" has been the mantra of the Assadfag crowd for 5 years now.
The anti-Assad side has not been able to call a single event right in the whole five years of the war.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Latest-News-Wires/2011/1214/US-Assad-s-Syria-a-dead-man-walking
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-uncovered/analysis-syrias-assad-set-be-abandoned-russia-iran-n403581
http://theweek.com/articles/460516/4-signs-russia-abandoning-syria
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/world/middleeast/syria-russia-airstrikes.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-syrian-military-is-on-the-verge-of-collapse-2015-4
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11934564/Russia-reducing-air-strikes-against-Syrian-rebels-as-intervention-fails.html
>>30226003
>>30226438
Being rich aint everything, as cost of living and quality of life like freedom etc matters a lot too.
Its why Africa in general ranks HIGHER then the Middle East in quality of living even though their gdp per capital is lower, if not growing. Peace and cheap everything has its perks. And the African wars are literally nothing but a drop in the bucket compared to the Mid East wars and even they are calming down.
US Chinook and Apache helicopters which took off from Rumelan Air Force Base have now been seen over Manbij
>>30231869
>>30231996
RBG-6, not new to the conflict, originally given to ahrar al sham by the Saudis.
>>30232830
>Saudis at it again
Just hearing the word "Saudi" generates this tired feeling in my eyes.
I dont know what it means.
>>30229749
Leningrad
>>30221727
How come pretty much every african picture of a AK has those tapped together mags?
>>30233199
It's for tactical reloads
Russians got banned from 4chan apparently
>>30231527
Fuck off /pol/
>>30234039
Theyre already back, m8.
>>30232616
Haha we are in a new war in Syria now.
Of course, Obama and friends won't call it that.
Btw
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-10/obama-expands-role-of-u-s-forces-in-afghanistan-against-taliban
>>30233302
>reloading
>>30234165
Confirmed
>>30234039
what did I miss?
>>30234658
T-90 got captured, they asked for too many proofs
>>30220073
>(((someone)))
>>30234603
we cant seriously be sending in real boots?
how would that work? i feel like were barely getting away with special forces in kurdistan
>>30232252
I sort of agree. Although far more people (and equipment) on all sides have been lost in Aleppo, its just a constant meatgrinder where no victories are decisive. Kobane was smaller, but had a much larger role in stopping the wave of ISIS victories.
>>30227790
The only occurrence I know of tanks avoiding missiles thanks to visual sighting was the Israelis. Their centurions managed to dodge Syrian Saggers during the Kippur war.
And it was only possible because the Sagger os slow and bright as fuck.
>>30231527
Why not Kurds AND Assad?
Saturday reports:
- In Damascus, a VBIED exploded in the Sayyidah Zaynab district, while suicide bomber detonated at the entrance of al-Dhiyabiyah, ISIS took the responsability for the attacks. I hope Zvezda is alright.
- In Raqqa, 8 SAA soldiers got killed when 5 ISIS suicide fighters attacked the Zakia crossroad. The reports say that all the suicide fighters are under their 16 years old, and it seems that they captured one, not sure if from the same ocassion.
- SAA got some good gains east of Palmyra, as they captured the Telaylah crossing, Arak valley and the Arak gas field. The T3 station is being disputed.
- The SAA and NDF launched a attack, preceded by artillery and airstrikes, against Rebel held Kabaneh, in Latakia.
In Libya, the Government forces have reached the port in the city of Sirte.
>>30237408
It seems the kurds want to take a go at taking Al-Bab and Manbij at once, otherwise an advance that far towards Aleppo without taking Manbij doesn't make much sense.
>>30237483
Yep, it seems so. It's a smart move to siege Manbij and worn out ISIS fighters inside the city. Otherwise, if the SDF had focused all efforts in assault the city, ISIS would try to exhaust the SDF/YPG forces with attrition, until possible reinforcers could arrive.
>>30237408
>the Government forces have reached
There are three governments now there- Not even the media gets their stories straight- I''m not really following libya, but I guess its Misrata yet again?
Its funny how they went from Heroic Freedom Fighters -> Powerhungry Assholes who ruin all the fun -> Islamist leaning Guys -> Big bad Evil Islamists -> Unity Government Forces fighting for Freedom and against Daesh,
>>30227604
ugh so boring. Proxy wars and specopssecretsquirreloperators are the futrue of war because MAD :,(
>>30237483
You mean Arima? Thats to cut the al Bab- Manbij road, not to get to Bab itself. Thats reserved for the SAA and I guess the Assad guys will really be furious if the kurds take and keep it (and why should they capture it only to give it back to Assad)
>>30237663
>that's reserved for the SAA
If they manage to take it in time. It would be fucked up for the government if they didn't manage to control it though, it would give the kurds a really big advantage against them.
>>30237663
> reserved for the SAA
Take a look on this pic, its a Rojava map commonly found in the Rojava offices around some foreign countries. You can see Bab on it, so, indirectly the Kurds already claimed it for themselves.
The only way of the SAA stay with Bab now, would be if they get up and go grab it before the SDF/YPG do, and even so, the SDF/YPG would probably demand it, threatening to attack the SAA if they dont hand it over.
a svieb against the commies
a town in afganistan called doh bala captured by isis
an info graph from the Philippines
>>30238085
shoot i forgot the image
>>30229996
>>30230060
Aleppo has by far the highest count, followed by Damascus+Suburbs; then Eastern Ghouta and Homs (though Homs has been the deadliest, most devastating urban battle, its just silent there for the last two years, thats why it slipped down).
Deir az-Zour comes at the end of the Top5
>>30237827
That map always cracks me up.
A shitload of territory that was NEVER in the hands of the kurds, nor had any kurdish population, being made part of Rojava.
I'll de living to see the end of this current conflict with ISIS and the rebels losing, only to see a new conflict involving the government and kurds. And the most hilarious thing of all is that I'm predicting a warming of relations between the syrian government and Turkey just to fuck kurds up.
Should be immensely entertaining.
>>30237827
I always thought that the SAA were going for al-Bab and Dayr Hafir, the Kurds for Manbij.
There is only a tiny kurdish percentage in al-Bab and even that one may have disappeared since rebel and then ISIS takeover.
>>30238130
Its even worse in Iraq and what the Kurds are claiming there.
They claim stuff like Sinjar by declaring Yazidis to be just some sort of kurds.
>>30238204
>Yazidis
>kurds
Just like Assyrians AMIRITE :DDDDDDD
>>30238204
Yazidis are Kurds.
>>30238334
Ethnically, but not religiously and definetly not culturally.
They don't see themselves as belonging to the rest of the kurds.
>>30238186
>>30238130
>>30237827
Think about it like this.
Who is currently the biggest threat to the SAA?
ISIS and then JaN and then South FSA.
Who has the best chance to cutoff ISIS from Turkey?
Who will likely fight with the FSA in North Aleppo and not as much with the SAA?
The Kurds.
As long as some ISIS is around, the Arabs in the SDF will be less likely to fight the SAA as well.
Who will lose foreign support once ISIS is not as powerful? Say in a year with a new US president?
The Kurds.
So looking towards the future, the SAA should allow the Kurds to take most of that Arab territory. But the SAA should take some of the Arab territory the Kurds claim as well.
Therefore in the future when America isn't as cozy with the Kurds, Syria will announce a liberation of Arab lands from the Kurds.
This will benefit Turkey relations, and will be a popular Sunni/Shia Arab operation.
It will unite Syria's Arabs.
The Syrian government only benefits in the long-term from the Kurds taking more land and becoming even more powerful.
>>30217990
>>30238426
>image macros
>>30238359
Actually they are both linguistically and culturally were much like Kurds. All of their oral religious traditions and names are in Kurmanci Kurdish. Their religions similar features to other Kurdish religions like Yarsanism.
>They don't see themselves as belonging to the rest of the kurds.
According to whom? Have there been a studie/poll on how many that don't consider themselves Kurds?
>>30238451
They are not Kurds.
>>30238475
They are happy to be protected by the Kurds and the kurds have no beef with them.
they can be a part of wider Kurdistan and still pratice their own religion. What about this do you not understand?
>>30237647
The GNA basically kicked out the Islamist GNC though.
SAA is allegedly dropping TNT filled water hoses. Picture of one that didn't explode.
>>30238130
>>30238186
I agree that the Kurds are being greedy in this matter, but is naturally to be expected in this kind of situation; The Syrian central government is weakened, tied with priority enemies and with difficulty to hold what they already have, while the Rojava forces and political importance are growing, maybe too fast. It is expected that the Kurds would take advantage in this kinda of situation.
>>30238389
If and when the SAA have done dealing with the Rebels and ISIS, they would probably be too exhausted to took a fight with the Rojava forces. It is more plausible, at least to me, that any future civil conflict in Syria will be within Rojava itself. Because they are already divided in their opinions about their own future, as the PYD desire the integration between the kurdish and arabs communities, and they also dont want to get independent from Syria, at least for now, while the KNC want kurdish autonomy or to join up with the Iraqi Kurdistan. And many of the arabs from the SDF fear the cessation/desintegration of Syria.
If they dont manage this well, things could explode in their faces.
>>30238656
They can't even find proper propane tanks anymore to drop onto civilian population I see.
>On 10 June, Iraq's elite counter-terrorism service reportedly moved within three kilometers of central Fallujah, and consolidated positions in the south of the city.[63]
Any good footage of this yet?
>>30234603
They've never denied that there have been SF in Syria and Iraq.
>>30238656
lol, what? Did they run our of oil drums or something?
>>30238694
One possibility is that SAA part won't be the one fighting. Its clear that Iraqi Kurds want to go independent and if they do Iraqi Shia militias are going to oppose them, and Shia militias have no manpower problems. Just as Iraq got cought up in Syrian civil war, so could Syria in Iraqs. Plus there is always Turkey, while they are blocked from taking direct action now because of ISIS, once ISIS is gone western interest will go with them and Turkey will remain there, probably hopping YPG gives them an excuse. And than there is oil, Kurds are currently sitting on majority of Syrian oil and large part of Iraqi oil.
>>30236619
>>30238972
>dat sudden panic reverse
Did it happen in Syria ? What was the missile used ?
>>30239041
Yes, it's from Syria, but what the tank dodged was not a missile, it was another tank shell, I think.
dodged your bait
level up
>>30239321
>applying firm pressure to the wound
looks fine to me
>>30238765
just close your eyes and imagine isof spray and praying over a berm, while a fat guy with a mustache bickers on the walkie 80ft behind them. Thats pretty much all there will be to see
Anyone has some more information regarding the rebel numbers?
Even with foreign "freedom fighter" volunteers after 5 years of war their ranks should suffer as the SAA.
But on the ground they still kicking ass even despite Sr/Rs air bombings, I'm guessing Al Qaida are just that good fighters and leaders on the front?
>>30219788
If he's smart there are well-concealed mines hidden off the side of the road.
>>30239482
No reliable numbers
But right now they mostly fight defensive battles, so manpower shortage is not such a problem.
>>30239931
Defensive battles where they usually lose more than the attackers
IS member Abu Abdullah executed his own brother for "spying" Iraq.
>>30240349
that's nice!
>>30240349
>warfighting in teva sandals
>>30240349
>Tacky crosshair
>Noisy labelling
What shitty post-production is this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37pJZ6v3uhw
>>30236822
Usually people favour one over the other.
>>30239482
To put it this way KSA is offering pardons to those on death row if they travel to Syria in order to fight the regime.
