Hey /k/ well Battlefield 1 just released this promotional poster and many people say that the rifle the man on the right is holding wasn't developed until the 1940's.
Is this true or are people just retarded?
>>30178345
what rifle would that be
>>30178358
The one in his left hand.
We already had this exact fucking thread, numbnuts
>>30178345
The luger's sights are also incorrect for that model.
>>30178345
>intentionally pushing the White vs Black mantra
Yup keep splitting the country apart even more, racial tensions arnt doing too good but whatever
the rifle is technically correct, being its an '03, but its an '03A3, which wasn't delivered until like 1942-43.
>World War 1 with fully automatic small arms
>>30178389
>03A3
>used by the germans
>technically correct
>>30178439
Don't forget that the actual box art is of a black man in American gear with a German sidearm, yet they even fucked themselves when they said there will be no American soldier's in the game.
>>30178345
They decided to use "alternate history" for the game, ie make shit up so history conforms to their liberal feminist agenda
Expect lots of black and female warriors
>>30178345
Promotional stuff like these kinds of images and trailers are usually contracted out a different company that specializes in publicity stuff. There's a pretty good chance that that rifle won't be in the game.
" wut is dis wite man doing here? "
>>30178385
It's American v. German you retard.
>>30178345
Dice often use placeholder weapons
>>30178484
This isn't rendered retard, this is real life shit.
>>30178480
Oh, I thought it was 'Germans Steamroll North Africa' promotional shoot.
The game will be a piece of utter trash that caters to teenagers. Expect obscure automatic rifles and experimental sub machine guns to be the standard weapon. All bolt actions will have scopes and be designated "sniper rifles". Don't expect historically accurate battles either, no intense artillery barrages or charging into machine gun fire but expect to be rappelling down from a zeppelin wielding an smg as you throw sticky bombs at an enemy apc.
>>30178345
We already had this thread, major video games aren't marketed to spergs or autists, go fuck yourself.
>>30178432
>what is the lewis gun
>what is the BAR
>what is the Chauchat
>what is the Madsen
>what is the Hotchkiss M1909
>>30178528
The BAR was introduced in September 1918, so it barely saw any use.
>>30178528
>BAR
last 6 months of the war. up until 1918, machine guns were too heavy and too impractical to carry. these little shits are going to be running around with MP18s and BARs on the Somme and Verdun maps, and that rustles my jimmies hard
>>30178523
>expect to be rappelling down from a zeppelin wielding an smg as you throw sticky bombs at an enemy apc.
That sounds so gleefully stupid that it could be amusing.
>>30178460
technically it is supposed to be the 369th which was assigned to the French army and issued french weapons and gear utilizing american uniforms
>>30178528
And notice how nearly all of those didn't see widespread use until decades after WW1.
This game is going to suck. Everyone is just going to be running around with what at the time was just experimental or underdeveloped firearms that didn't come to fruition until WW2.
Looks we'll never get a taste of what WW1 small arms combat should look like.
Guarantee their is a "tank level" where you drive around at 60mph and destroy 1.2k enemy tanks.
>>30178523
>SUBJECTIVE OPINIONS ABOUND
>>30178585
nah, DICE confirmed that bolt-action rifles are going to be restricted to the scout/sniper class
>>30178568
How dare Battlefield, the series which gave the Japanese engineer in BF1942 a rifle that was never entered into service and only 250 were made, be unrealistic?
>>30178593
Literally what is everyone else going to be armed with, sidearms and clubs? For fuck sake I'm no expert but I believed bolt action rifles where like the standard for most troops in the war?
>>30178523
I'd love the game to have a level where you're calvary riding a horse, weilding a revolver.
>>30178568
>Everyone is just going to be running around with what at the time was just experimental or underdeveloped firearms that didn't come to fruition until WW2
Until they get dropped at 450m from a rifle
>>30178547
>>30178551
>>30178568
You guys must be fun at parties.
Fuck, there isn't some sort of issuing threshold whereupon a weapon becomes ok to put into a game.
>>30178593
I was really responding to the 'waaahhh its not going to be what I want' vibes I was getting from your comment.
>>30178637
>You guys must be fun at parties.
nah, i just let this out online
>>30178651
>comment
Fresh off the boat?
>>30178651
i'm not the same person you replied to
>>30178651
>>30178663
Fresh off the boat from reddit, kid? heh I remember when I was just like you. Braindead. Lemme give you a tip so you can make it in this cyber sanctuary: never make jokes like that. You got no reputation here, you got no name, you got jackshit here. It's survival of the fittest and you ain't gonna survive long on 4chan by saying stupid jokes that your little hugbox cuntsucking reddit friends would upboat. None of that here. You don't upboat. You don't downboat. This ain't reddit, kid. This is 4chan. We have REAL intellectual discussion, something I don't think you're all that familiar with. You don't like it, you can hit the bricks on over to imgur, you daily show watching son of a bitch. I hope you don't tho. I hope you stay here and learn our ways. Things are different here, unlike any other place that the light of internet pop culture reaches. You can be anything here. Me ? heh, I'm a judge.. this place.... this place has a lot to offer... heh you'll see, kid . . . that is if you can handle it..
>>30178480
>all americans are niggers
except that's not the case, at least for now although white whores will likely change that in due time.
>>30178677
Whoa there calm down man ...
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>>30178710
>not recognizing the copypasta
>>30178677
>4chan
>real intellectual discussion
>muh secret club
not even the guy you were whining about, but everyone who's been here any amount of time knows it's shit and has always been shit.
>>30178480
>implying we won't see it as Black vs White
>>30178585
The only subjective part there is saying it will be trash. The rest is all a prediction of the facts, and probably a pretty accurate one too.
>Modern, rock and roll/rap soundtrack
>SMG spam
>Maybe one map that actually takes place in the trenches, but it will be an obscure shitty one that nobody ever plays
>Bolt action rifles only given to a "sniper" class that also gets to call in artillery
>Artillery isn't that effective, basically just the same old mortar strikes
>Be able to call in aerial surveillance that works just like a CoD UAV
>Germans are basically Nazis in the campaign and the only faction that uses poison gas
>A half dozen tank/aircraft spawn on every map
>"Engineer" class that repairs them and has something resembling a rocket launcher
>Most popular maps are all cities or industrial areas where people can rush around aimlessly with SMGs looking to hose each other down coming around a corner
It's ok if you haven't played a first person shooter in 5 years and don't understand what they are, but this is what you're in for.
>>30178795
>>30178345
The gun was around, the sights weren't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1903_Springfield#World_War_II
>>30178613
>Literally what is everyone else going to be armed with
Machineguns and SMGs. Have you not been paying attention?
>Sniper class: Starts with bolt action rifle, can call in airstrikes. Can unlock SMGs
>Assault class: Gets SMGs, has grenades, possibly some form of rocket launcher for taking on tanks
>Support class: Gets LMGs, drops ammo, revives people, etc.
>Engineer class: Repairs vehicles, gets pump-action shotguns, lays mines.
If you don't think this is how it's going to be you have never played a battlefield game.
>>30178733
but it's OUR shit.
>>30178795
I know this fag is being a pessimistic little bjtch but
>>Most popular maps are all cities or industrial areas where people can rush around aimlessly with SMGs looking to hose each other down coming around a corner
I want a city map with rubble, being forced into CQB with bolt action rifles mounted with bayonets, pistols and shovels
>>30178843
>aperture sight
holy shit maybe COD WaW was right about that existing after all
>>30178853
>Assault class: Gets SMGs, has grenades
Assault normally gets AR's, so i'm assuming that they're gonna get semi-auto rifles instead.
also, assault actually revives people, engineer has carbines (so they might just give it shotguns), engineer has rocket launcher, and support lays mines
>>30178631
>Maps
>Being that open
>Implying that the most popular ones won't all be urban to help facilitate ever
Sure some maps will have the obligatory "snipers go here" spots, and they may even allow you to take the scope off of some bolt actions, but it's only a matter of time before someone figures out where you are and kamikazes you with a Fokker, bailing out at the last moment to parachute to safety before t-bagging you and stealing your rifle.
>>30178710
>being this new
>>30178697
>>30178460
>>30178385
>not knowing the Germans had black colonial troops fighting on their side in WW1
>>30178891
It's changed up a bit over the years which of the four classes gets what. I haven't played since Bad Company so what do I know.
Point is they're going to basically make everything work the way it normally works in their games and the 'historical period' is just going to be window dressing that they've stuffed the same old gameplay into.
>>30178875
>With bolt action rifles mounted with bayonets
Why would everyone go sniper on a CQB map?
Also you should go play Verdun.
>>30178878
excellent bait
>>30178952
the last one I played (BF3) they got rid of the medic class entirely. This broke the game IMO. Back when there was a medic class, if you were near a "plus sign" on the mini-map you could pretty well count on being revived and healed as needed.
With BF3 they got rid of that and gave the first aid stuff to the Assault class. Most of the time, Assault class players wont even have the paddles, but they'll have the same plus sign on the mini-map, so it's next to impossible to identify who's actually playing a medic, and who's actually playing an assaulter. It really broke the way the game worked in a lot of ways.
That and the scout/sniper class no longer has C4. Instead they get next to useless targets designators and the C4 goes to the engineer. The engineer became this mishmash class of rocket launcher, repair tool, small rifles and C4.
Then they made the "support" class, which seems to be all the stuff they forgot to put in the game. you get a machine gun, ammo cans, and a mortar launcher.
they fucked the maps too. most buildings couldn't be destroyed anymore, the maps became more linear, and objectives were now surrounded by invincible walls. the days of operator level wall entry with a stick of C4 and some quick thinking are long over. They pretty much turned battlefield into calld of duty with vehicles.
vehicles that suck. helicopters were OP as fuck in BF2 and needed to be fixed.... but really all they had to do was limit their ammunition. instead, they just decided to make them complete shit. useless jets too, all you do is fight other jets, you have zero impact on the game. tanks and IFVs were pretty cool though. they tough to drive because infantry could take you out pretty quick with some teamwork but an effective tanker could do well.
i gave up on battlefield after BF3. haven't touched the one with cops and robbers and don't plan to bother with WWI; black sjw call of duty edition.
>fa/tg/uy /v/irgin here
>>30178568
verdun.
v e r d u n.
>>30178843
except neither of the soldiers in the picture would have been using it, the german would have had a 98 mauser either Gew 98 or a K98A. The black guy if American would have been issued French gear and used a berthier carbine or a lebel
>>30178663
>>30178677
What the fuck are you on about?
>>30178462
When will this meme die? The "alternate history" angle was proven false by DICE itself, the leak was inaccurate.
If you don't want to buy the game, don't. Believe it or not people that aren't white not only exist, but also do things white people sometimes do.
Did you get pissed that all of the Marines in BF3 weren't Mexicans? If you didn't get pissy about the fact that that there were no Latino Marines in previous Battlefield games when the Marine Corps is basically 90% Hispanic then shut the fuck up.
>>30178795
You keep saying all this shit like it matters.
Lots of people like that, quit bitching and play something else if you don't like it.
>>30179053
Good news, they split the Medic and Assault classes.
Medics get CQB equipment, revive and healing equipment
Assaults get rifles, mines, heavy/anti-vehicle grenades, more like an amalgamation of Engineer and Assault.
Scouts get sniper rifles
Supports get LMGs
There is no Engineer class
Supposedly the Support class is the only class right now that resembles classes from previous games.
>>30178462
>>30178677
>REAL intellectual discussion
>4Chan
>>30179391
>the Marine Corps is basically 90% Hispanic
Yeah, this is terrifyingly accurate.
>>30178697
>What are the Harlem Hellfighters
You can bitch about the diversity quota all you fucking want but that specific piece of information isn't historically inaccurate.
>>30179053
Personally I think BFBC2 had the best class and weapon balance (at least after they finished patching it). The recons were a pain in the ass when there were more than 4-5 on your team, but that applies to every BF game (hell, every shooter with a sniper-based class).
>>30178853
>I want a AAA game to be 100% time period correct and not at all fun for most of the target audience
>So I'm going to bitch and moan all day about it before inevitably buying it anyway
>>30179566
Mines? How the hell do they justify that? Mines in WW1 meant several weeks of tunneling and hauling explosives.
>>30178620
Cav wasnt viable in the West front after the first year
Dont worry tho you will be riding with a band of female berbers on a mission to blow up some tanks with c4 charges later in the game
>>30178523
You dumb niggers are expecting Red orchestra accuracy in a battlefield game.
Yeah, a WW1 RO style game would be great. But going into BF1 expecting that is like going into a Japanese Hibachi restaurant and expecting to be served tex-mex cuisine.
You can split hairs about the guns existing in slightly larger volumes than prototypes but you still have in BF3/BF4 marines running around with P90s, Chinese soldiers with FN2000s or M39s, or Russians with a tacticooled 1894 fucking rifle: http://battlefield.wikia.com/wiki/Mare's_Leg
And then way back in the day you had the Japs in BF1942 able to field their type100 in unlimited volume, their engineers having Japanified M1 Garands, the experimental T95 superheavy tank http://battlefield.wikia.com/wiki/T95 , http://battlefield.wikia.com/wiki/AW-52 http://battlefield.wikia.com/wiki/Wasserfall oh yeah and a FUCKING JETPACK.
So quit the abloobloobloo whining you fucking autist. Be glad we'll ahve servers that will restrict weaponry to more authentic stuff of the era.
>>30178878
While I found/find that silly in WAW it was surprising to be reminded recently that they had pseudo reflex sights for aircraft back in WW2 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflector_sight and even for hunting shotguns in 1945: https://www.forgottenweapons.com/nydar-reflex-sight/
>>30179733
we're not annoyed because it's not period correct
we're annoyed because they claim it is
>>30179673
You'd think /k/ would be happy about an older, decorated military unit getting it's day in the spotlight. Fuck this anal leakage from /pol/
>>30178843
The sight isn't even in the right location, its probably the roller coaster sight from a 98 but with weird lighting. Regardless of the fact this isn't in game video its something some retarded artist made for promotion.
>>30179673
The real historical inaccuracy comes from that British webbing on an "American". Better actually be West Indies Regiment, removing kebab.
>>30178528
One must understand that automatic guns that were portable as to only have 1-3 people carrying it were a new thing for the time period
Proper use was still being formulated by the end of the war and this would revolutionize infantry doctrine for the next war
>>30179766
i have run across nydars at several gun shows, sadly they wanted way more than i was willing to spend to get them
>>30179801
Great, that's why I specified and didn't generalize I'm sure there is plenty and will be plenty of historical fuck ups but so far this specific unit isn't inaccurate for the time period or conflict.
>>30179053
I played BF3 a lot. got enough skill to counter snipe and AA with my RPG-7. I also figured out how to use people's spines and my knife instead of parachutes.
BF4 made vehicles more powerful against infantry and had some better air viable maps and battles. However, you still need a really good pilot to make that work, and their last patch before ditching BF4 fucked the AA balance up a bit.
Oh, and the Javelin is a shit. Totally useless in BF4. Same damage as an RPG, have to lock on so they know where you are, and it will fly off target on purpose if you lose lock.
>>30179772
have you ever seen the ski jump sight that isn't it
>>30178345
When did videogames start race-baiting this hard?
>>30179836
Actually read what's been written or fuck off.
>>30179871
No.
>>30179673
The regiment existed and recieved medals and was on deployment longer than other American divisions (not really an achievement when you consider that the American Expeditionary Forces were a force-in-being only and they were around for a year in comparison to the Europeans' being around for four times that)
>>30179771
4chan == /pol/ get over it negrito.^^
>>30178345
Lmao, is that an M1917 Enfield?
>>30179832
Like I said the lighting is retarded and it's made by some liberal arts major hack who doesn't know a single fuzzle fuck about the proper appearance of weapons for the time period.
Some stupid promotional wallpaper doesn't matter if the game does it properly, we'll see if the A3 aperture is actually in the game and if it is then its in the wrong place if it is the roller coaster sight then it looks ridiculous regardless there is something wrong with it.
>>30179369
it's called a copy pasta you dumbfuck. it's a meme.
>>30179896
No it doesn't. Nobody else likes you, we all hate you. Now please leave.
>>30179922
it is the 03A3 aperature, the ski jump sights are in front of the reciever those are on the back of the reciever with the bolt open.
>>30179673
And shouldn't we also see british west indies/french african colonial auxiliary troops as well?
>>30179644
Pick 1, and only 1.
you fucking racebaiting retards need to realize they couldn't make a game have all white characters even in a majority white conflict. That could be a potential media nightmare and effect sales. so they compromised and put in a small black unit to appease cuck SJWS. even though they should of put in the French Morracan troops rather than Harlem Hellfighters but whatever, they did what they had to do
>>30179950
Hmm I see it now, lets hope it doesn't get into the game.
>>30178547
>>30178551
>>30178568
And I bet you faggots had nothing bad to say about previous battlefields using vaporware or experimental weaponry that isn't even in production. Fucking hypocrites
>>30179960
Probably, I imagine we'll see numbers of both.
>>30179771
Look here lad, the Regiment was only in the engagement for less than a year and in that time it hadnt accomplished much of note. Yes, there were medals awarded. Yes, the French commended them highly for their bravery (and if the Blacks of that regiment were in any position to speak they would likely have made the same comment), but much of the regiment's claims are self-reported and it is absolutely not unlikely that exaggerations or mistakes were made as is almost always the case with soldiers.
They took one of the least deserving (and this is not meant as an insult) regiments of the war and gave them a spotlight. Why? Likely because they are Black.
And as we have seen from the trailer, people appear to have drawn the conclusion that there are Berber (Tuareg) women fighting. This is not accurate either. There was no ww1 front in North Africa to speak of. It should have shown Arabs fighting. But of course, Arabs are patriarchal and do not allow women to fight. This is also true with most of the Berbers, so why is there a woman in the trailer? It is not representative.
>>30178710
>>30178733
>>30179369
Holy fuck, summershits please go
>>30180028
Previous battlefields didn't have a fixed time to be based upon. Literally all you got was that it was essentially a modern setting.
>>30180044
while I personally would love focusing on the askari troops, even if they're not the most glamorous it's good to see some unfocused-upon troops.
>>30178878
Git
>>30178345
Either they fucked up the design a bit on a 1917, or they're correct and that's a 1903A3.
Also, the person on the left appears to be black.
Why?
>>30180070
>Battlefield 1942 and 1943 weren't based on a fixed time period
>>30180112
>why
Its the current year and we need to alter history to appease SJWs
>>30178375
Referencing Al Pacino's gun in heat is an ancient /k/ joke that no one will get here.
>>30178375
If it's worth doing once, it's worth doing a million times.
>>30180122
>1942
>Market Garden
kek
>>30180070
Wanna know how I know you're underage?
>>30180079
The Askaris and Lettow-Vorbeck would have been an amazing choice. They had four years of fighting in the thick African brush against better equipped forces and despite almost being surrounded multiple times managed to evade defeat until the end of the war by functioning as a guerilla unit.
Instead they pick a shitty NG unit that sat and played wingman to a bunch of Frenchies for less than a year then packed up and went home.
I am not sure the games creators are aware or even caring about the historical and real heroes of WW1 who were minorities and in fact did contribute quite a bit.
>>30180139
>>30180112
There actually were segregated units of black American soldiers in both WW1 and WW2. Mostly rear echelon support units but apparently some did fight in the front (IE cannon fodder). It's not a pretty history and I'm willing to bet good money it won't be depicted accurately, but there's SOME truth behind it.
>>30180212
Oh, I see. You have no idea what you're talking about, thanks for the easy filter!
>>30178345
1942 had the entire allied forces using SMLEs with 5 round magazines and double action 1911s with 8 round magazines
>>30180229
Nigger what? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/369th_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States)
>>30180229
he's right tho
>>30180249
>>30180253
Harlem Hellfighters served on the front longer than any other American combat unit :^)
>>30180198
or some Gallipoli action would have been sweet.
>>30180212
this
There WERE frontline deployed black troops
Focusing on them reeks of SJW cuckery, but its FAR from altering history.
And tbqh the particular unit they are depicting is pretty interesting. iirc they were one of the most awarded US units and saw longest continuous frontline deployment.
>>30180212
>I'm willing to bet good money it won't be depicted accurately
I really want to know where this expectation that Battlefield games are historically accurate came from.
>>30180304
people other than white men contributed to history.
>>30180212
Yes, exactly, rear echelon, or guarding some trench way off in fuck no where that no one plans to push for, and unless some serious shit went down, that dindu wouldn't be going face to face with a German.
Most blacks in the military even into WWII were rear line munitions carriers or artillerymen.
>>30180323
see >>30180281
They were one of the most decorated combat units of WWI America.
If the 369th was white you would be blowing DICE right now for including "such an interesting and vital military unit" in their game.
People OTHER THAN WHITES actually did stuff. Look at the Sepoys in India.
>>30180323
>Still in denial about the Harlem Hellfighters
>>30180168
Still set within a time period
>>30180288
You mean sitting around swatting flies, suffering from dysentery, and passing out from heatstroke while burying your friends?
Why on earth are they trying to make a WW1 game, anyway? It's either going to be mindless death and respawning or a total cartoon.
>>30180376
replace dysentery with trench foot and you have the franco-german front.
>>30180304
>one of the most awarded US units
Really though, they should have done a Brit, French or German minority unit. America's biggest contribution in ww1 was entering it.
>>30180323
>On 25 September 1918 the French 4th Army went on the offensive in conjunction with the American drive in the Meuse–Argonne. The 369th turned in a good account in heavy fighting, sustaining severe losses. They captured the important village of Séchault. At one point the 369th advanced faster than French troops on their right and left flanks, and risked being cut off. By the time the regiment pulled back for reorganization, it had advanced 14 kilometres (8.7 mi) through severe German resistance.
>Two Medals of Honor and many Distinguished Service Crosses were awarded to members of the regiment. The most celebrated man in the 369th was Pvt. Henry Johnson, a former Albany, New York, rail station porter, who earned the nickname "Black Death" for his actions in combat in France. In May 1918 Johnson and Pvt. Needham Roberts fought off a 24-man German patrol, though both were severely wounded. After they expended their ammunition, Roberts used his rifle as a club and Johnson battled with a bolo knife. Reports suggest that Johnson killed at least four German soldiers and might have wounded 30 others.
>Johnson was the first American to receive the Croix de Guerre awarded by the French government.
They were certified badasses dude. They were one of the greatest fighting regiments in the Allied forces, much less American Army.
>>30180323
Harlem Hellfighters, the unit the game is going to focus on, actually saw frontline combat and from what I understand they permormed well. Plenty of awards from both the french and american governments and saw longer frontline deployment than any other unit.
Instead of bitching about the nigger people should be buttmad about the famele bedouin warrior which is certifiably bullshit. (The closest reports we have to bedouin females participating in combat were young girls that were often charging with the warriors and acted as morale boosters. However they were often killed pretty soon as they were not really armed)
>>30180391
I would love von Lettow-Lobeck's askaris campaign.
>>30180388
*heatstroke not dysentary
>>30178345
that's a 1917 enfield
>>30180400
*Lettow-Vorbeck
my bad
>>30180394
>they advanced some meters through an understrength German division and at one point were actually faster than the French and then killed some guys who had little will to fight anyway
Again, they were fighting after the fighting had been done. This is not interesting or even badass.
>>30180391
>America's biggest contribution in ww1 was entering it.
And thus breaking a huge fucking stalemate. Fact is, there is no way that Britain could have won the war without US intervention.
>>30180400
>Instead of bitching about the nigger people should be buttmad about the famele bedouin warrior which is certifiably bullshit.
This.
>>30179960
Thats the thing that bothers me. If its so important to have a racially diverse range of avatars, there are plenty of "ethnic" colonial units that saw four years of shit, so it seems like obnoxious burger-pandering to put some random nigger unit that saw far less action just because they were Americans. WW1 was far more an Abbo, Indian or Maori war than it was an American war, so having Americans take center stage in the marketing (regardless of color) shits me to tears.
>>30180422
>Again, they were fighting after the fighting had been done.
Obviously, the fighting wasn't done if people were still fighting.
>>30180288
>get off long boat trip filled with vomiting and dysentery
>walk onto the sand and get told to take a hill
>get killed almost immediately
>campaign ends
Well ain't that some fuck?
>be Canadian troop in Yppress
>troops stacking for assault
>Germans launch artillery attack
>GAS
>trench fills with smoke
>you die coughing up your lungs while trying to put a piss soaked hankie to your face
>campaign ends
>be French soldier holding the line
>in a lull after a long battle your damaged trench collapses and you're buried in a land slide
>campaign ends
>US campaign
>near end of the war, October 31st of 1918
>be walking rear line trenches and hearing distant artillery being fired
>hear fellow soldiers spreading rumors of peace and a treaty soon as you make your way toward the rear lines in reserve
>an artillery shell finds a way into the trench and throws you back
>you come to and find your arms and lower half a bloody mess
>campaign ends
>>30180422
>>30180432
You guys have to be trolling.
Get the fuck out of here, go back to /pol/.
They saw A LOT of combat, and they performed better than many French or American units in similar positions.
>>30180288
A youtuber said he saw concept art of a beach landing with troops getting shot at from hills and cliffs, me thinkin' it's galipoli
>>30180388
That's kind of why I'm scratching my head at why this is a thing. Even on the eastern front I don't really see the making of a multiplayer game. Who wants to be a Russian conscript respawning for an entire match while being blown apart by artillery?
WW1 would make a good single player "historical experience" type of game like the older CoD, but don't see the appeal of Battlefield: Shittier Weapons and No Vehicles.
>>30180429
I agree that having colonial black soldiers present in the German Army would be very interesting. However, there is also nothing wrong with featuring the 369th (or any other American unit) in the game.
>>30180394
wow one regiment of blacks did all that! quickly, lets forget about all the sacrifices french and british troops made to showcase this token unit!
>>30180477
You do know the game focuses on multiple people over the course of the campaign, right? You're being a bigger nigger than the coon on the box art...
>>30180495
oh how could i forget about the bedouin woman! silly me!
>>30180477
I bet if it was like some random unit like the 157th you wouldn't give a shit.
>it wasn't common to be a black in WWI
>this means we shouldn't have them!
>we must play only as the absolute most bland and common thing in the war!
I didn't see you bitching about playing as the Navy SEALs in Medal of Honor, or Rangers in MW2.
>>30180512
Literally the only thing to be upset about.
>>30180428
>And thus breaking a huge fucking stalemate. Fact is, there is no way that Britain could have won the war without US intervention.
Stalemate? Too American centric. The arrival of the US in the war only guaranteed the defeat of Germany. Prior to that, the Allies had been gaining ground in the Balkans and Turkey was pretty much out of the war.
Not to mention about a month prior to WW1 Germany exploded into a revolution that was armed.
Again, the US did not play a major role in WW1. Canada did far more than the US, as did Australia, to put it into perspective for you.
>>30180446
Thats a stupid view devoid of any sense. There is one minute in the game and the other team is two players down and down twice as many points. You are rotating im fresh new players while the other team has to make due with the same players that have been playing to exhaustion the last few quarters or so.
If you were a betting man, who wins? You're a liar if you tell me the underdog does.
>>30180517
Rangers are more relevant operationally in COIN than regular units, correct.
>>30180150
I miss old /k/ :(
>>30180845
This.
This is our war. Americans need to fuck off with their cultural appropriation. Americas contribution to WW1 was perfunctory at best.
#AboriginalLightHorsemenNotHarlemMemefighters
>>30178795
> Engineer class with rocket launcher
I'm a bit late but it's been confirmed that that isn't happening. There is no dedicated tank class, best you'll get is a T-Gewehr
>>30180495
>>30180517
>>30180476
>>30180451
It's just a blatant narrative with the underpinings of realism, and it's not really surprising that no one actually cares about the truth.
Yes, there were a few colored troops that did things in the conflict, but putting them in the forefront and adding narrative depth to them while underwriting the white "antagonists" is pure subversion.
When painted into a corner by half truths and appeals to partial accuracy no one wants to be shrieked at, so they shut down.
They know exactly what they're doing.
>>30180845
>Again, the US did not play a major role in WW1
The USA played a huge role in WW2. There is a reason why the Germans were so desperate to keep American out. They knew that the war would be over for them if America got involved. And they were right.
>>30178677
Copypasta
>>30180872
Lol. Where did I say that America was the "under-dog"? Quite the opposite actually.
>>30181031
no shit newfag
>>30180895
>COIN
uh.. MW2 wasn't COIN?
>>30180978
you're reading way too far into a black character.
>>30178891
Not many semi-auto to go with at the time, aside from the Mondragon and Meunier which were only available in small numbers, the only semi-auto really used during WW1 was the RSC1917.
>>30181183
I bet we'll see a Remington R8, pretty confident the regulations at the time allowed folks to take shit like that with them. Even if it would've been a bitch to care for in the trenches.
>>30179733
>I want all my games to be rubber stamped exactly the same way they are already and for nothing to ever change.
Nobody's demanding full realism. People just want to see something that's closer to, like, "Verdun but with a bigger budget" instead of "Battlefield: This Again"
If I wanted to play "every other battlefield game ever" you know what I'd do?
Go play one of them. Any of them. Take your pick.
They have an opportunity to innovate and instead they're thrashing and struggling and doing everything possible to make sure that they don't have to try anything new.
>>30181183
>Only available in small numbers
Sounds like the default weapon of the assault class to me.
>>30180422
Holy fuck dude, just shut up. Your backpedaling is fucking amazing
>>30181283
You're missing the point
Games like Verdun have limited appeal, they appeal to people like you or me, people that want realism and accuracy and in order to succeed you have to "git gud."
Battlefield is a AAA franchise because it *can be* played as a mindless shoot em' up with absolutely 0 skill or effort and still be fun.
Insurgency and Verdun and Arma are for a certain type of gamer, one that has matured past a kill slot-machine and wants depth. Remember, a large number of people that buy this game are going to be 14 year old children that had mommy and daddy buy it because you have to be 17 to get it from Gamestop.
PC gamers aren't as affected by this, but it's rampant on consoles.
If you made it too realistic you would have the pre-teens literally complaining that "I can't hit anything with a bolt action" and "where are all the full auto guns?"
I'm still gonna buy it because my friends and I will probably have fun with it, but for those realism feels I'll hit up Verdun or Arma, maybe Insurgency.
>>30178345
>everyone is gonna be running around with fedorov rifles, mp18s, Browning auto 5s and m712s
I can see it now, and I'm not impressed
>>30180422
>blacks weren't in WWI
yeah, they were
>blacks didn't do any fighting
yeah, they did actually
>well the fight didn't actually mean anything, American troops didn't do shit
Oh, I guess that's why they got all those medals? For killing pushover, starved, surrendering Germans?
>BLACKS AREN'T PEOPLE REEEEEEEEEE
This is you.
>>30180978
>a few colored troops
Dude. Just come on. You're being ridiculous.There was an entire division of them (at least). If it was a white division, would you even be bitching about portraying a single division from ww1? I mean I hate niggers but those boys did some good fighting
>>30179252
THIS
>Play game
>"well shit, I can't even get out of my trench cuz that as hole with a machine gun has us flanked. Oh, shit. Thus IS WWI."
>>30179053
C4 went to the support class, not engineer, which is even more a bizarre decision on their part.
>>30181532
It also went to the Assault if you sacrificed some other gear.
>>30181556
BF3 assault never had C4 you fucking idiot
BF3 Support had C4, and then in BF4 Recon and Support both had C4.
If you actually played the game you would know this is common knowledge.
>>30181556
Pretty sure you're thinking of Bad Company 2 which was approximately 1 billion times better than BF3
Holy shit mods delete this thread. Not only is it a repeat but the discussion as become one entirely about the battlefield series. Take this shit to /v/
>>30181648
Shut up newfaggot
>>30181422
Definitely not in the Great War burger
>>30178432
> literally dozens of heavy and light machineguns saw widespread use
> conflict even saw the introduction of the first submachinegun
Yeah, nah, you';re just a faggot
>>30181414
Don't forget the Ribeyrolles 1918. Although I doubt DICE would be savvy enough to know its existence
>>30181661
Uh huh
>>30181622
Yeah, the last one I played was BFBC2 which was God-tier, I just assumed they kept it the same I guess.
>>30181619
Filthy fucking nigger.
>>30181668
Source?
In the end Battlefield 1 will sell millions will still being a mediocre game with historical inaccuracies.
It's a damn shame 2, DICE could have made something great
>>30180028
Everything past BBC2 has been okay or mediocre
>>30181765
Has nothing to do with anything, but thanks for spouting your opinion
>>30178460
Actually, he's wearing British webbing. 1908 pattern, to be exact. I can't tell what uniform he's wearing though.
>>30181668
"Widespread use" means, like, "one in every few dozen soldiers."
This game is going to be all automatic, all the time. $20 says even the sniper classes will have semiauto options.
DESU, I'd actually kind of like it if they went full dieselpunk and had fucking armored zeppelins duking it out and harpooning each other to send over armor-clad boarding parties with spiked cudgels and trenchguns. That would be insane and I'd definitely buy it.
What it really sounds like though is its going to be just "Battlefield with shittier weapons." After all, their last brilliant idea was "removing vehicles," so stripping core elements of what made their games fun to begin with seems like their plan.
>>30181387
When I was that age I was reking SMG fags in CoD2. All_Rifle 4 life.
>>30181422
>a few colored troops
>compared to the endless millions upon millions of Europeans that got bushwhacked in that war
next you'll tell me the won the war, aren't you?
>>30182216
*The Americans
fucking shit
>>30181414
Don't forget 1897s with unlockable bayonet
