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.303 yeah you know me!
Post enfields, or anything in .303 really. The sun may have set on the British empire but their cartridge is still going strong.
In other news, wolf started making steel cased .303 and sgammo is carrying it for ~50 cents per round!
>>30172142
WHAT!?!?!?! Don't fuck with my feelings, m8. Are you for serious?
Been years since I fired an Enfield.
>>30172206
It's real, copper washed steel under their Military Classic line
>>30172142
Best news I have heard all year
>>30172142
>Wolfs 303 is 50 cents a round
needs to be like 30-40 tbqhwy
>>30172267
Reloading the .303 was always a chore
Case head separations after 3 or 4 loads
No surplus left, but this might get my motor going for my beloved Enfields again!
>>30172206
I'm no tease friend , go look for yourself !
Failed attempt at aesthetics
Do the promag Lee Enfield mags work for a no4mk1? My dad brought home one a few months ago, but I am a poorfag and I haven't been able to shoot it yet because it doesn't have a mag, is dirty as all hell, and I can't find 303 ammo anywhere locally. (I refuse to pay 15 dollars for one box of ammo . . .)
>>30172377
>I refuse to pay 15 dollars for one box of ammo
Well get used to it because thats about the cheapest its gunna get pal
>>30172522
Why? My god damn laptop shipped for free and the box for that was at least 5x bigger than a box of ammo.
>>30172576
That's because laptops are expensive and shipping is an afterthought. Ammo is heavy as fuck for its volume. Just buy the ammo man, it's worth it
fuck OP, you're gonna make me get my enfield out of the safe?
Gorgeous gun by the way
>>30172292
>>30172142
>>30173862
http://www.midwayusa.com/s?userSearchQuery=303+brit
In addition to wolf, Midway has surplus in stock.
should I get a British break action revolver to accompany my Enfield?
You should buy some weed whacker for your toes Frodo
>>30174016
that's a sporran m8, I got drunk, threw my kilt on, and fondled my enfield
>>30173987
Yes.
>>30173987
That enfield is so sexy. You should definitely get break action revolverios
>>30174145
>>30174241
there's something so beautiful about how robust enfield/webley revolvers look. I think I will get one, gotta get me a bayonet too.
>>30172142
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!?!?!????!!'nkihsjsnk
CHEAP ENFIELD AMMOOOOOOO
>>30173862
Thanks friend , if I remember right it's a fazakerly no.4 mk2
These threads always make me regret selling my No4Mk1*
Like the week after I sold it, a new LGS opened up in my town that sold .303 for ~$20/box.
>>30173911
Oh sweet Jesus my body is ready
>>30172292
I've never had a case head seperate on .303 and I've been reloading it for 6 years or so. Some of my brass has 8+ loads on it now.
What case are you using and how do you size them?
>>30172142
>Lee enfield thread
I know a guy who may be willing to sell me one for $400. Worth it?
Milsurp or not, he said he once used it to raid a coke house & rescue his son.
>>30174673
in America? that's a little expensive imo, got mine >>30173987 for $250 from my LGS
>>30174690
Really? I thought it was around their typical retail price.
>>30174696
If it's quite nice, better than average, that's about right.
>>30174696
It is, 250 is very low nowadays
>>30174721
shit, I got lucky then. I had no idea
>>30172142
Help me out /k/ bros, im in a bit of a moral dilemma
I bought a lithgow .303 a few years ago, it was my first real rifle after an air rifle. I spent a lot of time cleaning up the wood and thoroughly cleaning the metal parts because it was pretty grimey and the wood was very dark and dirty compared to pic related now. Anyway the rifling is pretty much totally gone in the last few inches of the barrel which makes every shot tumble and fly allover the place. Id be lucky to get a two foot group at 50 meters, the rifling looks good when you look down the barrel, but looking from an angle, you can see it is almost gone towards the end. The other issue i have is it's very hard to extract rounds, this is caused by the pressure from the extractor binding the bolt up when you try to open it. Probably because its a mismatched bolt and might fit a little bit loose or something
So the rifle is pretty much a wall hanger at best, i want to sell it but i feel kind of attached to it after cleaning it all up
I wish I bought 25ish CPR greek 303 from CTD when they had them. Didn't becuase they were the "B" grade
What's /k/'s opinion about putting a stiffer striker spring in a No4? Worth it or not, I've got one on hand and it makes the cock on close action noticeably harder to push into battery and the striker and cocking piece come forward with a lot more authority. But will it actually make any difference or is it jut making my bolt a little less smooth to work?
I suspect that worrying about the effect of lock time on milsurp bolt action accuracy is like worrying about whether or not to put high octane in your econobox because you want it to be faster.
Not much of a .303 guy, but this dude makes the best reloading videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LtUS3h3kio
>>30175336
He makes cool videos all around, and I'm very jealous that he has such an awesome place to go shooting as well.
>>30175285
Does your gun reliably go bang? If so, then id say dont worry about it.
The fast action is one of the best bits about the lee enfield anyway
>>30175336
I've never heard of this dude. That video probably is the best reloading vid of a specific round I've seen, as it actually goes into the history and gives more detail and doesn't just waste time of showing the steps over and over to pad time.
>>30175376
Yeah, it's basically new.
>steel cased ammo
You'd probably be better getting just getting a cheap single stage, a cheap case trimmer, some beam scales, a powder tricker and scoop, neck sizer and seating die and some calipers then using good brass ammo to reload.
Bump for more .303 deliciousness
>>30176037
idk, its unlikely that you'll have a problem with steel case if you're using a bolt action enfield
Need to get a new magazine, the feed lips are bent real bad on mine.
Is there a good low pressure round for my ishapore? What brand or whatever? Anyone know how those plastic German bullets are or if they're even available still?
>>30178955
Pretty much any major brand of .303 is low pressure compared to military spec, any rifle that's still serviceable will shoot it fine.
The hottest commercial stuff around is probably the Kynamco/Kynoch stuff loaded in HXP brass.
>>30178985
Ishapore rifles are .308 .
>>30179010
7.62x51 you mean. I didn't know you were referring to 2As and not Empire era No1s.
You're saying I can now shoot this thing cheap!?!?! Fuck yes!
>>30179010
No.
Ishapore 2A/2a1 rifles are 308, all other rifles they made were in .303
>>30179150
Your firing pin retaining screw is a bit loose, might want to tighten that up /k/omrade.
>>30172142
>In other news, wolf started making steel cased .303 and sgammo is carrying it for ~50 cents per round!
Well shit,
Looks like the peasants will finally be able to enjoy the best rifles the world over
I hope UK dealers import some, I'll be interested to see how it compares in price to PPU. Although all ammo will instantly become expensive as soon as it reaches the country, regardless of wholesale price.
Saw some Lee Enfields this weekend at a museum, had to correct some kids who were screaming how "that one is a M1 GRAND" And how a bren gun MKIII is a type 99...
It was at that point that I thought maybe I am autistic
Pic kind of related, jungle carbine Lee Enfield
does the no1 mk3 give anyone else a boner?
>>30181630
I like it better then the No. 4
LSA 1914 reporting
Bad pic but only pic i have of my no.4 mk1 its a helluva gun
>>30172142
Does any one of you fine niggers have like an Enfield model/ type infograph?
>>30174508
nice pic
>tfw no Aussie Experimental No. 6 Carbine
>>30174736
Good news is, it's a great wall hanger. Keep a few rounds below it for a surprise HD gun
> spearing a crazed rapist with an Enfield and then blasting him with .303 British to remove kebab
>>30172292
>>30174658
I've heard that 303 is a pain to reload if you shoot it from an Enfield (which is what almost everybody will do) because of oversized chambers. Also, can you use 7.7 Jap and 303 dies interchangeably?
>>30185488
Which 7.7 Jap? The rimmed, semi-rimmed or rimless. Most dies labelled 7.7 Jap will be for the rimless. Since they copied the .303 Brit the dies should work as well for the rimmed.
The loose chambers mean you should only neck size to keep from working the brass. If you put an o-ring around the base to hold it tight to the bolt head the shoulder pushes forward and the case will now headspace off that. This prevents overworking the case and stretching of the web leading to longer case life.
>>30185488
>a pain to reload for
I've never understood this, it's not like reloading .303 is some dark art or even just more complicated than reloading any other round. All you need to know is that if you full length size case life may be short, if you neck size case life will be fine.
Personally I once I fireform a case I only size about half of the neck.
>>30185518
Which do you think?
Also, I thought that all three were about the same dimensions besides the rim.
>>30185601
The rimmed was simply a direct copy of the british for use in there vickers guns. The rimless is more a bastard child of the 30-06 and 303 and is in no way interchangable with .303 british. The semi-rimmed was simply the rimless with a bit of rim to keep machine gun ammo from being used in infantry rifles.
So I bought a surplus greyish blue sling for ten Canadian pesos and it's staining my hands blue like cheetos. It's like that chalk string you use to make lines on concrete.
I already washed it twice.
I'm considering getting a repro khaki sling for $20 from my LGS.
So here's an Ishapore I bought a while back that I've been trying to remove this abysmal black enamel from. This shit is so awful, as you may be able to see in the picture, that it hides the screw on the back of the striker.
I've heard people say that these are supposed to be Parkerized, but I can't even find anything regarding what the original finishes are. It doesn't seem parkerized under the papint because it's so patchy. Anybody know what these things have on them? I'm thinking about giving it a full restoration.
>>30185677
Huh, thought the rimless was basically a rimless 303. I wonder why they didn't want machine gun ammo being used in the rifles considering that they could have handled it fine. Silly Japs with their three non-interchangeable rifle rounds, not even counting 6.5.
>>30185732
Original finish could be blued, parkerized, or painted.
Any rifle to be used in tropical areas, including Pakistan and India, was to be painted overtop the finish.
>>30185732
In British service the black paint was Suncorite, which was extremely durable. Before WW2 mostly everything seems to be blued, although some early war No4s made in England did seem to be blued. Canadians mostly blued them and used parker later on. Savage used parkerization.
But that looks too sloppy to be done by an arsenal or any armourer, especially if it's painted over screws. Although I don't know what they got up to in India.
>>30185796
Yeah I've heard about the suncorite. That stuff sounds and looks fantastic. I've actually heard an interesting note on it, that it actually phosphates the metal underneath the paint over time. That could explain the splotchy phosphating underneath the paint on mine, but this CERTAINLY isn't suncorite. I've heard that needed some absurd shit to strip it off, and this was coming off with regular stuff like acetone, mineral spirits. Hell what i mostly used was Motsenbocker's.
I'm toying with parkerizing it though that doesn't look so great IMO. I love how the blued ones look but again, I want to restore, not refinish. I only wanna do something if I know it's going to be proper. Not that I'm planning on selling this any time soon, but I'd like to do it right.
>>30185864
>and this was coming off with regular stuff like acetone, mineral spirits
Sounds like your rifle got abused by some bubba and his shitty cheap BBQ paint or whatever the fuck. Like you I'd definitely try and strip it off.
>>30185891
No, that's the thing. This is some kinda weird preservative shit the Indians put on them, but it makes things like the sight tangent and the rear striker screw totally inoperable. Plus it was flaking off when i handled the gun so it defo had to go. Right now it looks like some WWI relic which is tight, I'm looking to get a 1907 for it since I found one that's got a hook quillion.
The last round in my 1917 MKIII is always mad hard to extract. What gives?
>>30186053
Bolt catching on the mag follower?
>>30172142
>extractor spring broke 4 years ago on my no4 rifle
>was poor at the time and couldn't spend 3 dollars plus shipping to get a new one
>couldn't remove the spring off ones in the gun store quick enough to steal them
>now I'm to lazy to buy a spring even though I make alot more then I did 4 years ago
>still using the same pink eraser as a spring
And is there any problem running a steel case threw an Enfield?
I'm kinda hesitant to try it I don't want to hurt my baby
>>30186053
Mine does something similar, you know that flippy thing on the bolt which you need to flip up to remove the bolt? Try pushing that inwards to the left as you open the bolt. Opens easily. No fucking idea why and its a pain in the ass to do, but there you go
>>30182579
LSA 1915
>>30187323
How about the Ross Rifle, the retarded Canadian cousin of the Lee Enfield!
There are so many sweet old guns like the No 4 MK II, 1886 Lebel, Martini-Henry, and 1917 Enfield that look awesome but I would never get to shoot.
>>30187804
Why not?
>>30187967
Ammo
I've got an Aussie No1 Mk3. Also got a 1907 pattern bayonet for it made in 42
It's a different kind of enfield, but what's the value on a no2 .38 revolver? Got a guy in town that wants $325 for one
>>30187347
I look at it as more of a socially awkward, somewhat ocd cousin of the enfield that's kinda pretty but tries too hard
>>30188011
M1917 uses .30-06 and the no4 mk2 uses .303, both are pretty darn available anon, can't say the same for the others sadly
>>30174145
Are you me?
I just shot my No.5 the other day but my No.4 is my pride and joy. 1941 BSA with a very nice red beech stock and some neat early production quirks.
>>30188300
Do it.
What's the going price for a jungle carbine? My gunstore is selling one with a spare mag for 200$
>inb4 wandering zero meme
>>30185732
That is shitty Indian factory paint.
>>30186184
If that's how you treat your 'baby' please never actually have a baby
anyone else have a problem with their safety lever coming down while shooting?
I could probably tighten the screw holding it, but I don't want to fuck it up, so I might just wrap a rubber band around it
Australian Air Force marked Lithgow mk3, 1941-dated. It's a mishmash, but no import markings.
>>30188984
Sorry for potato picture quality, I'm going to get a new phone soon.
>>30186184
Retarded faggot.
>>30188915
Early No4s are cool. This one is a complete beater though.
>>30172336
>>30173987
>>30182579
>>30188212
Make your fucking bed you filthy animals.
At least my parents raised me right. Also, have my No5
>>30189230
And some tasty lewds of my No1Mk3
>>30189230
my bed was unmade because I had a threesome with your parents lmfao
>>30189263
I was raised by a gay couple, how did my dads' cocks taste?
>>30188940
To be clear it looks like a Mk2*, dunno if the lack of spur takes value away
>>30189230
Nice light bubba job you have going there.
>>30189399
It's a restoration as best as I could do... was far more Bubba'd when I got it
>>30189429
May want to tighten the bolt head up and check headspace, looks like you have a bit of gap.
Could also buy the proper bolt and flash hider and move the sling swivel to the right place. After that it would be hard to tell it wasn;t oringinal.
At least you never put a gloss finish on the stock. That always seems to look wrong
1941 Lithgow reporting in
>>30190029
Same fag here. How exactly is the sling properly installed on the rifle? I heard the brass clips are supposed to face towards the stock, and I have also heard that they are supposed to be away from the rifle. I think I installed the sling on my Lithgow upside down but I'm not really sure.
>>30189230
at least get a correct magazine bro
>>30174736
Is your rifle DP marked? If so then it's a drill rifle and should NOT be fired. I've seen a DP marked No. 4 blow up on someone at the range because he shot it although the barrel was stripped of rifling, plugged, and holes were drilled in the receiver.
>>30172142
Is there a handy guide to buying an Enfield?
>>30191562
I almost fell for this. Saw a "unfired" rifle with yellow stripe and thought "noooiiiiccccee". Thanks google for saving my wallet and my fingers.
STRAYA CUNT
>>30191562
The guy kind of deserved it for being such a fucking retard. Who the fuck goes from the gunshow to the range without even a cursory examination? Even if it wasn't a DP and just a suspiciously nice looking gun there is a full well chance there might be grease or similar bore obstruction.
Bought this one for $700 Ausbucks about a month ago.
I didn't know these existed, but it's been "Regulated by Fulton", which apparently is a gun shop somewhere in Britain that did really good accurisation jobs on Enfields.
>>30193331
Unf, how does it shoot compared to other enfeilds?
>>30193356
Still haven't shot it yet because I've been crazy busy, but I'm expecting good things from it.
They put new sights on it that flip between 300 and 600 yards, so I'm guessing that if I can see the target it should do pretty well on my 500m range.
>>30193331
beautiful collection m8. aren't nuggets really hard to get in straya?
>>30193416
They're more expensive than in America, but they can still get pretty cheap (in Ausfag terms).
That's a Type 53 that I got for $350.
>>30193449
Type 53s in that condition in America actually go for around 400-600 (The 600ish ones I've seen have paperwork). Most people think T53s are all cheap becuase the only big batch were the beat to shit ones that started at 100 bucks. T53s before that were usually in much better condition and were rather uncommon.
>>30193375
>mixing imperial and standard
Pick a side, damn it. 700 for a proper ally acaccurised rifle is pretty good. Excellent if it's an Enfield, how much are mags there? Almost 40ish per here, which is a shame because I would love to have a bandolier of mags that isn't more than the gun.
>>30193522
>It was sighted in yards
>I'll be shooting in metres
Pretty clear distinction m8
And mags cost about $65-70 from what I've seen. I'm thinking of getting some basic gear for running around with it, but I'll probably just load it with clips.
![south-dakota-sd-usa-a-speed-sign-with-both-mph-and-kph-ajm8fh[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kGPpnRB.jpg "south-dakota-sd-usa-a-speed-sign-with-both-mph-and-kph-ajm8fh[1].jpg")
>>30193522
idort master race
>>30191562
What? My DP shoots fine, no blow ups even after a complete disassembly prior and the bore is like brand new.
>>30195461
DP meant a lot of things and you lucked out from what I understand. Would still recommend running a gaugeand getting it checked out
My 1918 LSAC No.1 Mk.III*
>>30193522
>reloading by changing mags
Interesting.
>>30174508
>$20/box
That's still a dollar a round though; you're burning an Alexander Hamilton with just 1 mag.
>>30193331
Nice, im always on the lookout for a no4 to add to my collection. On a side note, anyone know why no4s nearly always have mismatched stocks? I dont think ive ever seen a no1 with a mismatched stock, but id say maybe 80% of the no4's i see for sale are a weird mix of dark and light wood
>>30191562
Nope, no DP here
>>30189170
wtf that bolt
>>30190530
Pretty sure it's the other way like mine.
'42 reporting in
>>30193331
Nice collection fellow ausfag
Also, anyone know what type of sling i should get for my P14? I figure it's a web sling like the Enfields but not sure.
Can't seem to find a matching bayonet for a reasonable price either.
>>30197520
Actually, disregard that about the sling. Most likely it's just down to personal preference
>>30172142
I was using that Wolf ammo on memorial day and I was getting keyholes. I don't think it was the fault of the ammo. I think my Enfield has some weird pitting on the inside of the barrel causing. Might get it re-crowned.
![20160607_074757[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VEun7kS.jpg "20160607_074757[1].jpg")
>>30197791
How bad does this rifling look? Can't really see the pitting though in the picture.
>>30197791
A lot of people are reporting keyholes using the new ammo. It's not just your gun
>>30197807
Oh really? Last time I shot it before memorial day I was with my uncle and I think we bought some soft points from the lgs don't remember the brand he got but it was high quality a dollar a round or so. Don't remember any key-holing then. I thought only 2 grooved barrels had issues with the wolf ammo?
>>30196847
Bubba and FTR. Enfield attract bubbas while shit attracts flies, and they always have.
Lots and lots of No4s went through a factory thorough refit and while many were equipped with a new stock set complete others were deemed to only need another part. Most of the time they would match them but there were those that still slipped through.
Also Enfields were made in a lot of different wood, and all of it was used. You have Birch from Savage, Walnut which was used by the British while they still had supplies of it, Black Walnut which is darker still and was used by early Savage and most prolifically by Longbranch, then you had Beech stocks which the British made millions of. All of these in different shades, colours and patterns of grain.
pic related, this furniture is all original but now I've put a long lenght walnut butt on it, still Long Branch made, but lighter in colour.
I've swapped the buttstock of both of mine to long variants, and while I've tried my best to match them up it's not perfect.
>>30197226
The round Mk1 cocking piece? It's a left-over from the trials rifles, they eliminated it after about '41 or '42 to simplify manufacture. That's a 1941 Maltby but the only thing original to '41 is the receiver itself.
>>30197807
Undersized bullets?
>>30197800
It looks like the surface of the moon.
Also, is that a slim waisted front sight protector?
>>30198060
Not sure what you mean (about the front sight)
>>30198109
Like this, which is rare.
>>30198197
Instead of like this.
Found this beauty at my new internship!
>>30198221
Image didn't post for some damn reason
>>30198197
Oh yeah they're like the example you posted. What does it mean that they're like that?
>>30198248
It's just one of those nice little features they had early on before they were completely streamlined for mass production and cost effectiveness. As far as I know they were only made during 1941, the first year of No4 Mk1 production, and even then they were not on every rifle. I guess with all the refits and stuff throughout the war and after it many didn't survive, or at least were replaced with another protector. You rarely see them.
>>30198277
Oh that's pretty cool, I just got back from my gunsmith. Bore got gauged at .315 so needless to say I am gonna have to get a new barrel.
How much should I be paying for a SMLE in reasonable working condition in the USA?
>>30198464
Also this being said, anybody know where to find a good new barrel and what they're worth?
>>30198497
Criterion makes new ones, assuming you're in the US. Or you can still find new old stock surplus barrels if you know where to look and are patient, or so I hear people say.
I would go with the Criterion, you're guaranteed to get a good barrel.
>>30189230
I puked because of the mag
>>30189230
How do the new mags work? have to fiddle with them?
>>30199464
I've heard they're all shitty. There were some good 7.62 ones made but I have never heard anything good about aftermarket .303 mags.
