Hi, lets just jump right into this. Ever since I could remember my father would always rant and go on and on about how my grandpa was a nazi. He would claim that back in WW2 he killed jews and was a terrible person, I never believed him since my grandpa was such a nice guy, and I figured my dad just had some kind of grudge against him so he made stuff up to put me against him. However... Unfortunately about a week ago my grandfather passed away, and I was at his house yesterday squaring away all his belongings and such to be taken back to my parents house. So, I was in the basement rummaging through some stuff when I came across and old box, It contained some old coins, jewelry and something very unsettling... a knife with a swastika on it. When I found it, it had some kind of covering over the blade, and their were no engravings on the blade either. I took a picture of it with and without the cover. What I'm trying to find out, and im praying that it isn't is if that knife is authentic or not? We are indeed of german decent, and I need to find out if its real or not for my own clarity, please help.
>>30170280
bump. Im interested to see where this goes.
>>30170280
This is real fucking cool. He sounds like an pretty legit dude.
Defending your country isn't a crime OP. btw that's a hitlerjugend dagger. Hitlerjugend was mandatory for children
>>30170280
pics of the coins???
>>30170325
What do you mean "mandatory for children"? And does it look authentic to you?
>>30170280
also why are you scared if it is legit or not? That thing is worth a bit if it is real, and it was your grandfather's, even cooler.
Even if you were jewish you should be able to appreciate the life your grandfather had, not holding judgment against him or his items, that's how you get haunted boo boo
>>30170345
>>30170325
Yeah it does look like a hitler jugend dagger. My grandpa has one but it doesnt look as nice as this one though. No eagle.
Op, could you look at the base of the blade and look for markings and make a picture of it?
>>30170339
They're just old american pennies and a few Canadian coins, nothing special.
>>30170345
I mean kids were kinda forced to join it, but most joined it willingly. After the war a lot of fake HJ daggers were sold to the allies so I don't know
Nazis were the good guys you brainwashed faggot. We fucked up and now the kikes own us thanks to pussy faggots like you op.
God bless your grandpa.
>>30170325
>Hitlerjugend
It's not though. They looked much different.
I'm going to guess that the OP's story is entirely fabricated and that we're looking at some shitty repro of something.
>>30170363
Im not scared, he's just always told me he wasn't a nazi, and i'll be upset if he was lying.
>A knife with a swastika is unsettling.
lol what a gay
>is grandpa a nazi?
>dad says hes q nazi
Probably
>>30170364
Yeah, I can soon. Tomorrow probably since its not currently with me.
>>30170403
Also the knife looks fake
>>30170386
I e probably "wasn't a Nazi", Wehrmacht find nothin', they dindu nuffin.
The Wehrmacht engaged in the murder of Jews on a large scale and can't be said to be significantly better than the SS. They may both have been tellimg the truth from their point of view. Sounds like they were fucking Jedi.
>>30170378
You're missing the point. You can be a skin head all you like, more power to you its your choice. But, the reason I want to know if its real or not and because its unsettling that I found this, is that my grandfather lied all his life to keep this a secret, what else could he have lied about is something that could branch off of this being authentic. So kindly go fuck yourself.
>>30170280
> Praying it isn't
Anon, a knife is nothing to be ashamed of. You are not responsible for the deeds of your ancestors and neither are their tools. NEVER let anyone convince you otherwise.
It is an heirloom, regardless of its origins, if your grandfather felt that it was worth keeping, you should respect that. If you find out it's authentic and you don't want it, call some museums, it is worth preserving. If you end up keeping it, put it in a shadow box for your grandchildren. If necessary, use it for something that will "redeem" it's value for you. Whatever you do, don't trash it or destroy it, your family deserves better.
>>30170447
>You are not responsible for the deeds of your ancestors
THE SIIIIIIIINS NEVER DIE, CAN'T WASH THIS BLOOD OFF OUR HANDS.
LET THE WOOORLD FEAR US ALL, IT'S JUST MEANS TO AN END.
>>30170280
In what year was your Grandfather born? What area of Germany/Austria was he born in?
It looks like a rather ornate Hitlerjugend dagger, but there are some noticeable differences. First, the Nazi emblem is different. The ornate eagle's head pommel. The lack of blade wear and the handguard's shape. I'd think it's a repro.
My grandfather was enrolled in Hitlerjugend in Austria. Anschlüss occurred and my family felt significant pressure to enroll him. At the youngest ages, it was far more of a boy scouts thing than hardcore indoctrination. My grandfather kept his Hitlerjugend blade. His says "Blut und Ehre!"--Blood and Honor!
>>30170280
you should be ashamed of yourself for hoping your grandfather was not a nazi, if he was then your lineage was proud and once capable of defending itself from outside influences from Europe, unlike you, you pathetic little liberal worm.
>>30170633
>Nazi
>National socialist
Who's the leftist? Why, I believe that would be you.
Your grandpa was a nazi. You better get a life and sell me that knife. Do not bring it to a paw shop, I pay better.
>>30170366
0-0 bruh pls take pics
they could be stolen
>dumbbell
HAHAHAHA faggot you better get yourself a barbell and squat rack and stop disgracing your grandfather memory by being such a pussy
>>30171021
that's like a 60 man
>>30170848
the weakest of semantic arguments
>>30170280
Don't get your sissy little panties all in a bunch. It is nothing more than a bullshit replica. It is NOT a hitlerjugend dagger, or any dagger/knife made/used by the Nazi military.
Pic related is "Nazi SS Eagle Bayonet replica".
>>30170280
>he killed jews and was a terrible person
Make up your mind, OP.
>>30171163
ok so he wasnt an actual nazi then, just a sympathizer
>>30171431
Good. Sieg Heil! The Fourth Riech will rise soon.
>>30171431
This is actually worse DESU.
All the moral implications of being a Nazi but he wasn't fly as fuck.
>>30171431
no, he was an old man that saw a cool knife at a gas station or gun show and assumed it would be rare/valuable some day.
kinda like the people who buy jennings or cobrays. they do it becaue they think it looks cool and might be valuable one day, the fact that theyre black is pure coincidence.
>>30170345
>What do you mean "mandatory for children"?
What the fuck do you think "Mandatory" means you dumb shit?
>>30170848
Guess who hitler killed first. Socialists. Tell me how he was actually socialist
My grandpa had some stuff like that.... Took it off some dead Germans... Sounds like your dad is a bitch...
>>30170439
>abloo bloo bloo pappy lied to me
>>30170378
>>30171891
Nice 9gag-tier meme. It's like I'm really back in 2011.
>>30171820
>>30171820
He killed communists not socialists.
>Bolshevism communism and socialism are all the same thing!
My god you're dumb
>>30170439
No shit you retard, don't take it as a slight to you. They put a 90something year old man in jail a couple months a go because he was at one of the camps. Of course he would lie about it.
Plus, as said before, he might have just been one of the unfortunate draftee boys that had to defend the home front or a Hitler youth. It doesn't mean he actually believed in and lived the cause.
Take some pride in your heritage and the sacrifices the man made to keep his family going and safe. If you loved him and he was a good man, he was a good man. Frankly, your father sounds like the archetypal guilty German, but that's how you wrote it all. Love your grandfather's memory if you loved his presence, past regardless.
Fuck I bet I am getting trolled with a repro so hard right now
>>30170476
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>>30172760
IN THE FAAATHEEEER'S SIIIIINSSSS
>>30170280
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>>30171949
>he never heard of the night of long knives
>>30170280
thats pretty bad ass
>>30170280
You and your father are brainwashed kike slaves.
This is not an authentic nazi knife in any way. I can't think of any German weapon marked exclusively with a swastika.
>>30171494
Yep he probably brought it at a garage sale thinking it was real. Just a poorly made Chinese garbage knife.
>>30170280
>implying fighting for germany means you were a socialist
OP, I would say that your father is a commie faggot. The more communists that your grandfather killed, the better.
>>30170280
your dad is a whipped little bitch who is mad at your grandpa because he didn't support his crossdressing, and your grandpa is a senile old man who bought a $13 chinese made knife either online or at a swap meet
Guys, my great great grandfather was in Germany during the great war. He recently passed away and I found this knife in his house.
Was he a nazi?
>>30170325
Nope. Those don't have eagles and they tend to have engraving on the blade itself also the swastika is different on those
>>30170280
GUYS MY GRANDFATHER JUSST DIED AND AFTER THE AMBULANCE LEFT I FOUND THESE KNIVES IN THE DISHWASHER
Was he a nazi?
>>30174452
The SS officer's dagger and Hitlerjugend knife.
Also, roll stamp on every single firearm.
>>30174826
No... he was dragonborne...
>>30170378
See I always found combining nazi with southern pride stuff like the Confederate flag to be an oxymoron. Confederate flag is more KKK if anything pertaining to racism, and KKK doesn't like Nazis or their descendants.
>>30170378
>Tainting the battle flag with your Nazi faggotry.
You would have been hanged along side the communists .
>>30174826
He was probably a post-nigger wizard of some-sort, perhaps branching off the Merlinian WW2 sercret dynasty. Do not be alarmed but you may have latent magical wizard nigger blood inside you, I suggest going to your nearest wizardry institute and ask for their finest glock-hipoint problem solver
>>30170345
Are you stupid?
nazis dindu nufin alright XDDDDDD
>>30174840
The SS dagger has the Eagle grasping the swastika same as the inspection stamps. The Hitler youth knife has a red and white field. None of them just have a lone swastika
>>30170280
>>30171029
That's like a 40 at absolute most, probably less.
>>30170364
this is what a HJ-Messer looks like, you pseudo-german inbred.
>>30175458
>XDDDDDD
Get the fuck out.
>>30170391
this what a poof aye lad
haahahhahaha i'd be fucking glad as fuck to find such a relic
>>30170476
>mfw a christian minister went off on a froth on how "Filthy Pagan Dogs" should pay back all the gold and silver stolen from monasteries during viking raids
>>30173051
>Knight of the Long Knives
>Where they liquidated the left wing of the party
>>30175583
>taking the bait
>>30175583
lol dude THAT is the part of his post that you had a problem with?
>tfw OP is a literal faggot
It's hard to believe Germany used to be a great country sometimes.
>>30173051
>hur he killed his political opponents and then later murdered some of the jackboot thugs who propelled him to power
He ran the country in an unsustainable socialist fashion. Massive debt, the government owning every big business, "nation building schemes", it was all massively socialist. If you believe in that shit you should be voting for Bernie, because it is no differently applied socialism than anywhere else in the world.
There are a lot of books written on the subject (a good one of note is The Wages Of War) discussing the fact that the Nazi's were doomed to fail because their entire "economic boom" was based on huge debt. If Hitler hadn't started WWII then the whole house of cards would have come tumbling down, and Germany would have seen worse hyper-inflation, unemployment and economic devastation than the last time that had happened in recent memory.
Enjoy your moronic fantasies about how muh national socialism is totally different to other types of socialism. Stalin probably killed more communists than Hitler anyway, so that probably means he's a good dude in your eyes.
>>30175990
>nd Germany would have seen worse hyper-inflation, unemployment and economic devastation than the last time that had happened in recent memory.
didnt that happen after the war anyway
Guys, my grandpa Joe was a doctor during WWII. He even started a medical center and helped a lot of sick kids as you can see from pic related. I was going through some old family photos recently and my wife, never having seen them before, started ranting that my grandpa was a Nazi. How could she be so cruel when the man dedicated a large portion of his life to helping kids?
>>30176105
Here's another picture of him after he helped restore sight to twin brothers that were born blind.
>>30174826
Guys i found this uniform in my grandpa's attic, was he a frenchman?
Guys I my grampa just died and I'm very sad but my dad said bad things about grampa how he dind't like what was happening to germany nowardays and I thought he was trying to turn me against him. But as he died I looked at my browser and I found this site, am I a /k/ommando!?
>>30170438
Literally who cares
>>30175990
to some degree it could have been successful if he had been investing spending into things that would generate economic growth instead of into rearmament.
one day an airfield, road, power plant, etc will generally pay itself off. armed forces rarely do. [and when they do, as we saw in germany, they eventually get pushed back and all the stuff they looted gets taken off them.]
also, the nazis didn't own a lot of their businesses, they just ran them. during peacetime that's the most amusing thing about national socialism: it combines the inefficiency of a command economy at meeting consumer needs with the private ownership of a capitalist economy. you get to keep your factory and some profit, so long as you do exactly as you're told.
>>30170345
mandatory as in you'll get a visit from some very nice party members on why you didn't have you kid join the hitler youth. If you still refuse they will go. But forget about that nice promotion and expect other people to be treated better then you. Also your kid will be a social outcast.
>>30170325
>defending your country
You don't even know what service OP's grampa was in, he could very well have been a part of an aggressive or occupying force.
>>30170378
Back into your basement you subhuman.
>>30170439
>my grandfather lied all his life to keep this a secret, what else could he have lied about is something that could branch off of this being authentic
Well, assuming that he served, he could have been part of things he wasn't very proud of, or he's affected by that post WW2 German guilt, where even the slightest bit of national pride in any context makes you a nazi suspect.
adv
>>30171820
>but my collectivist socialism is different!
You're really not that separate from a Commie, when it comes right down to it.
>>30174763
>The more communists that your grandfather killed, the better
Arguably true.
>>30176238
>to some degree it could have been successful if he had been investing spending into things that would generate economic growth instead of into rearmament.
That's really not that far away from saying "Well Communism works on paper!"
>>30176105
9/10
Subtle. How's Argentina?
>>30177064
>That's really not that far away from saying "Well Communism works on paper!"
It's a million miles away from saying that. First of all because it's not proposing communism [or even socialism. the means of production do not have to be in state or worker control for the state to invest in infrastructure.]
Keynesian policy [which is what the state taking on debt to invest in such projects in order to hold down unemployment and tide things over until economic recovery basically is.] works in some circumstances, provided you're paying people to build useful infrastructure and not to dig holes and fill them in again or build fighter planes that then do nothing but get blown up by allied fighters.
>>30170848
Yep. Just like how the Democratic Republic of Congo is in any way democratic or republican.
>>30170378
