Took the PTR-91 GI R out to the range for the first time today. I'm ordering a scope. This rifle deserves it, no shit. I love it, I really do.
Plus, I'm a South Carolina fag, and this makes me happy.
Glad you like it. Does yours have a railed receiver, or need a claw mount like mine?
Yup, has a factory rail, and a steel SEF lower receiver, not the plastic one that people bitch about.
Isn't the GI model the one built to HK spec or something so it doesn't routinely suck like other variants? Sounds like you picked the best of the bunch OP.
>>30170316
The plastic lowers aren't that terrible. A little cloth wrap or a rubber grip thing makes it pretty comfy. Plus it helps cut down on the weight if you're moving and shooting. My gun in this pic >>30170288 weighs almost 15 shitting lbs with a full mag.
>>30170271
>>30170288
camowrap is so cool, have the same shit on mine
>>30170271
What part of SC? Aikenite here.
I'm proud of PTR industries, and I still think it's awesome of governor Nikki Haley to do an opening ribbon cutting sort of thing with them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxa9T1N2qQ0
Feels gud mang to have a milf, sane, pro 2A governor.
>buy PTR91A3R from atlantic firearms
>a month later they have a model with a factory paddle release
>its on sale for $100 cheaper than what I paid
FUCK
>>30170446
Not too far from you, I'm in Chapin, not even an hour.
>>30170451
I got my GI R, with the rail, with the steel lower, with an original HK leather sling, with the paddle release and with free shipping, $899.
I thought that deal was like just a sore peter: you can't beat it.
>>30170271
>PTR-91 GI
the exact model i want. i am mad jelly. good choice OP
Classic wood or GI? They're both about the same price from what I'm seeing, but I love the look of the wood over the GI.
Is there any real benefit to dropping the $99 to HK parts to replace the polymer with metal?
I mean, if you like the look of it, by all means. Fake SEF is kinda cute, even if there is no real *there* there.
But AFA functionality or actual improvement to the rifle, what do you get?
>>30170316
Do they make one with a steel lower and paddle mag release but no rail?
All I see are the railed models, but I'm not really interested in that
>>30171958
Significantly more weight, better/cleaner aesthetics, and a slightly more comfy grip. Though the latter two are subjective obviously.
>>30171995
It would be call the 'ptr91 gi' with no r to designate it having a rail. That being said I think the welded rail is a must
>>30170490
Oh you can beat a sore peter :^)
>>30171995
yep
http://ptr91.com/products/PTR%20G.I.?id=23
>>30171995
>Do they make one with a steel lower and paddle mag release but no rail?
Yes. No distributor is stocking it yet, though you can order it direct from PTR via phone.
http://www.ptr91.com/products/PTR%20G.I.?id=23
>>30172048
Ah shit they must've updated their website sometime this month, they were still using the older model as a display picture not so long ago
>>30170451
>read post
>coming with paddle releases now
>have money
>in stock
I, must, resist
>>30172018
>tfw giant head
> claw mount allows me a great cheek weld
Really though I think the mount looks cool. Plus, it still allows use of the irons.
>>30170271
Which part of South Carolina?
>>30172008
>Significantly more weight, better/cleaner aesthetics, and a slightly more comfy grip. Though the latter two are subjective obviously.
So objectively, no. *shrug*
>Rifle is fine. Navy trigger group is fine.
>>30172298
Pretty much, though I'd recommend getting a nice pair of gloves if you're using the standard slim handguard. Those fuckers get hot as shit after a couple mags.
>>30172117
Chapin. Halfway between Newberry and Columbia.
The pins on my stock are fucking HARD to push out and in. Is this normal? Will they eventually loosen up?
>>30170271
Nice! I just ordered a GI model without the rail directly from PTR last week. I'm in the upstate area.
>>30172524
Like how hard? Can you still do it by hand, or do you need a punch and mallet? If the first, they're fine. If the second, no, but it will probably loosen up.
>>30172586
No, like, I need a punch and a mallet. They're just that fucking stiff. With my AR, I can push the break down pins with a bullet. This PTR-91 is a no go. Break out the fucking goddamned fucking soft face mallet.
>>30172052
This fag here: >>30172578
Atlantic will have the GI models without rails soon. PTR confirmed it when I talked to them.
Bumping with my monstrosity.
Gonna order some Hirtenberger this weekend.
>>30172374
>Pretty much, though I'd recommend getting a nice pair of gloves if you're using the standard slim handguard. Those fuckers get hot as shit after a couple mags.
Now we're talking - things that might improve the actual shooting experience and functionality, as opposed to "How do we make my Waifu sexxxier looking!!
>>30172646
Wide handguard is much better for sustained shooting.
Obligatory
OP here. I just ordered a Nikon Prostaff 7 3.5-12x42mm scope with a Burris QR mount on recommendation from a friend. The scope was only $286 with free shipping. Obviously a $300 scope is a massive piece of shit, but fuck it, it's better than nothing. I'm running a Trijicon ACOG Reflex on it now, and it was fucking tearing up a pie plate at 100 yards today. Once I get the scope dialed in, I'm expecting sub-1" MOA at that same range.
I swear, I fucking love this rifle. I really do.
This is a pic of my son shooting it today.
http://www.nikonsportoptics.com/en/nikon-products/product/null/prostaff-7-3-12x42-bdc.html
>>30170451
>Same thing happened to me
>With an SWFA 3-9 it shoots 3 MOA with gold medal match
>Chokes on ZQI
Feels bad man. Oh well, election season is soon enough.
>>30170271
hello fellow South Carolinian
what city?
>>30172681
Real talk though, I pity anyone who actually bought one of those Federal Arms pieces of shit.
>>30172702
Chapin. Up I-26, halfway between Newberry and Columbia. Less than 5 miles from Dreher Island State Park on Lake Murray.
>>30172710
>cast receiver
WHY
>>30172687
I use a dirt cheap vortex crossfire ii on my rifle, and still can pull 1 MoA groups with some decent soft points. I'm sure that Nikon wewill be more than fine.
>>30172710
That's that Hesse/Vulcan(?) cunt under a different name isn't it? I can't believe that piece of shit manufactures those abortions in my city.
>>30172687
fuck you for letting your son be fat
>>30170271
I'm interested in one. Tell me some fun stuff about it?
>>30172777
Way back in the 90's, it was just easier to make horrible castings in pot metal than it was to machine or fabricate a new receiver.
>>30172048
>every time i see a g3/ptr buttstock
>:O
>>30172873
>.308 Winchester
>Can reach out to 800 yards when somebody who knows what they're doing is behind the trigger (obviously not me)
>Made in South Carolina, USA
>Can harvest pretty much any game in North America with one shot with the right ammo
>Won't find another worthy 7.62x51mm NATO rifle anywhere near this price
>Built with original Heckler and Koch plans, using original HK machines and tooling, just in South Carolina instead of Germany
>Just fucking do it already
>>30172811
Federal Arms. They made M14's for a very long time and experimented with a cast aluminum receiver as a G3 clone when CAI was importing the SAR rifles from Greece.
didn't work out too well.
>>30173001
CANNOT UNSEE
>>30172873
>real
>fuckin
>NATO
>>30173004
PTR rounds can't go further?
Hell a 13" SCAR can do 800
>>30173031
>SCAR
$2500
>PTR
$900
See the difference?
>>30173004
>>Just fucking do it already
Gotta stuff my new car fund with some more dough before I can lay down that kind of cash on a new rifle.
If my WASR looks tiny on me, I figure a PTR will look right at home.
>>30173053
yep
>>30173016
I see, I thought it was the Hesse guy since he was also manufacturing barely/non functioning HK clones out of MN, and has changed his company name in the past when word of his work gets out.
>>30170271
Scopes pretty good on it
What color furniture?
>>30173016
Federal Ordnance made M14s in California. I think we're talking different manufacturers here.
Still shitty though. Crappy receivers and Chinese parts after 10k serial. I have one and it needed an M14 armorer to unfuck it, though I love it now. Mine has USGI parts though.
>>30173135
Green with the slim handguard. I would have rather have had the wide handguard, but the price was too good to bitch. You can always change stocks later.
>>30173175
Yeah, I liked the wood stock obviously but I had to modify a cetme set
>>30173077
>If my WASR looks tiny on me, I figure a PTR will look right at home.
Nah, it's really not a very big rifle.
>>30173004
>only 800 yards
maybe with iron sights, you faggot
>>30172687
>fat son
>chick lean
>PTR-91
Good god you're a failure.
>>30172687
>>30173407
Thanks for giving Sa/k/uya more meme material.
>>30173307
>>30172578
Huh, so you finally got around to buying it.
Glad to hear that you finally have a rifle to use that handguard with.
>>30172578
nice
got a stock to match?
>>30174170
Yeah, it took me long enough. Now I just need to wait a few more weeks for them to get it made and shipped. Feels good though, I bought 10 more magazines and some 7.62RFN/.308 to go with it.
>>30174229
I fucking wish. I'm gonna be on the look out though. The only reason I got the handguard was because some beautiful anon posted an ebay listing for it. Protip for everyone in this thread, robertrtg still has HK style bipods for $80.
http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/HK-BIPOD-2p1.htm
>>30172578
>>30172618
nice. my friend wants one bad, specifically
that exact model. i know he'd much prefer ordering from atlantic
>>30174297
I have no idea when they'll be available though. When I talked to PTR the first time, they suggested calling Atlantic since they had just done an order for them. When I called Atlantic they wouldn't tell me when they'd be available so I just called PTR back and set up the order. It's a little more expensive but it's nice to support a local state company.
>>30174277
ayyyy
I'll be sure to post a listing of a buttstock in a thread like this or in /brg/ if I ever find one for you
>>30174405
I'd appreciate it. I'm hoping the handguard doesn't look too out of place with the standard stock.
>>30174427
I'm sure it'll look just fine.
How are those bipods by the way? Is there a good amount of sideways movement from them? I am really tempted on picking one up myself but I can't really justify to myself paying $80 for a bipod (even though I always shoot resting my rifle on a bag)
>>30174774
There's definitely some sideways movement but it doesn't cause an issue. I'd really recommend picking one up if you're even remotely interested since they usually go for a couple hundred dollars.
>>30170348
All of the PTRs are built on HK tooling. The GI variant is the one designed after the original base model G3, and thus is the cheapest.
Does anyone have any knowledge on the ones in .243 they put out a while ago?
>>30176860
that was back before they had gotten their shit together, wasn't it?
>>30178099
That's weird as fuck.
anybody have any experience with the zenith hk clones?
>>30170271
I miss mine. Sold it a few months ago because I was broke as shit. Regret it big time.
What kind of accuracy could I reasonably expect from a GI-R? They claim its a match grade barrel, but that term is rather dubious.
>>30181045
I know their MP5 clones are considered top-tier.
>>30170490
Columbia bro here. We should go shooting sometime
>>30176364
Fuck it. I'm buying one this week.
>>30178099
Here's a video of that particular rifle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPPPcOBKPZE
>>30181923
Good luck. Wish I'd never sold mine. Now I'm flat broke and won't be able to buy another for a very long time, if ever.
Does anyone own a DSA Voyager?
what corners did they cut in order to bring down the price?
Worth it?
>>30182378
Voyager a shit
>>30182421
details?
>>30182433
Shitty pot metal
>>30182378
They made it a cast receiver which has literally no down sides compared to a forged one
Not life, not accuracy, not anything
Everything /k/ spews is conjecture and lies
>acquiring a CETME
>gonna get a claw mount and put a Primary Arms 1-6 scope on it
How much of a faggot would I be if I got the larger G3 handguard with the bipod on it?
>>30183110
A really big faggot for buying a Cetme
And the furniture isn't interchangeable
>>30183110
>How much of a faggot
Dude no; don't rice out a CETME Sporter.
>got the larger G3 handguard with the bipod on it?
Not gonna happen unless you're getting a C308.
>>30183264
>>30183225
https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/Wide-Green-Forearm-HK-German-91-G3-PTR-112p214.htm
Then are they lying to me?
>>30183359
>Then are they lying to me?
Yes; it will not fit a proper CETME sporter without modification.
>Modelo E furniture never
>>30184105
it melted anyway
>>30170271
meme rifle t bh get a fal dude
Is a Tac-Latch worth getting? I've considered having a paddle mag release installed but I can't decide.
Does anyone else have a problem with the bipod hitting the sling point on their wide handguards?
>>30183074
All the DSAs are cast receiver now, have been for a couple years. The myth with a grain of truth to it is that casting is weaker than forging; the flip side is that it probably won't matter and modern casting might be as good as forging circa 1990 anyway.
>>30172687
>PTR
>Nikon Prostaff
>I'm expecting sub-1" MOA at that same range.
do you actually believe this?
>>30182378
buy it over a ptr any day
>>30186975
it looks dumb just dont be a fucking handlet
>>30187178
Why do you come into threads about things you dont like just to shitpost?
>>30187202
i dont like when people lie on the internet about their regrettable purchases
>>30187213
How do you know they are lying? How do you know they dont enjoy something that you dont like?
>>30187224
saying hk clones are sub MOA is a joke
just dont lie about it so people read dumb shit and believe it
the shitty wood one is mine
>>30187238
pretty much this.
also having such a hard-on for what was intended to be a cheap and disposable rifle is weird.
>>30170271
I live in sc near goose creek and own a PTR-91 made in Connecticut. I feel weird.
>>30186975
I have a tac-latch and I really like it. Pushing right with the thumb lets you get an easy grip on the mag to remove it. It's not leet operator fast, but if that's what you want then you probably have the wrong rifle to begin with.
Also, lefties hate it and can't use it. I consider that a plus.
>>30172687
Indian Creek still a crapshoot on being crowded or empty?
>>30187255
So you dont like that people lile something that you dont?
Kind of childish, wouldnt you say?
>>30173100
The nose knows.
>>30187370
I said I found it weird, what's childish about that? you've never been puzzled by people being super passionate about garbage?
What's the best 91 clone you can get?
>>30187350
Yeah. Total crap shoot. Last three times I went, it was empty. The three times before that, I turned around and went home without even getting out f the car.
>>30187751
A PTR isn't a clone, it's the real deal. After the Feds kept fucking them over with various AWB's, they gave up on the American market, and sold everything off. PTR bought everything from HK, and now the PTR rifles are made using original HK plans, on original HK machines and tooling. Only difference is the factory is now in South Carolina instead of West Germany.
>>30187807
What's the best ptr is what I meant to say
Also can ptrs accept the collapsing stock or is the stock dogshit?
>>30187202
Sounds like sakuya's back at it. Just filter it. All it wants is attention. Don't give it what it wants
>>30187276
You have any trouble putting it on?
>>30187837
The best PTR is the MSG 91 SS. Total custom, straight from the factory. Even has a 20" barrel instead of the standard 18". They are NOT cheap, though.
As far as the collapsable stock goes, if it fits an HK91 or G3, then it fits a PTR. They are the same gun, built on the same machinery, just physically made in two different places. PTR actually sells some rifles from the factory with the collapsible stock already in place. As to whether or not it's a POS, I can't speak to that.
>>30187774
Kinda glad it's an hour away from my house. I usually shoot at PSA, Defender, Live Oaks, or Sandy Run. Those might cost money but at least I'll have space.
>>30187915
Not him, but mine was relatively easy to install. You just need a punch and something to drive the roll pin out from the mag release button.
If you're putting it on a PTR, you'll also need an HK magazine catch, the PTR spec ones don't have the same cut to them.
Also, dunno if it was just my rifle, but there was a slight groove in the receiver where the latch was, that was causing it to feel pretty gritty when it was pressed, so I stuck a little mouldable plastic I had lying around in there, and it smoothed out nicely.
>>30181099
I handload for mine and can consistently shoot 1moa with the factory trigger and a vortex diamondback.
>>30189576
I've been looking at getting a reloading set.
How does yours handle the brass? I've heard people say even a little ding on the casing means it's fucked, and others say there's no problem at all.
>>30189595
Well I added a little black rtv to the ejection port to prevent case damage. But I shot like 300 rounds before that and unless it fucks the case neck they reload just fine.
>>30189613
Thanks, I was planning to get a port buffer, never thought of silicone. That suits my cheapskate ass much better.
>>30189334
Couple more questions, Are they pretty solid or do they feel flimsy? They look like they have a thin shaft. Also, the button still works with these installed right?
>>30189654
>Cheapskate
>PTR owner
not surprised
>>30189854
They're solid, the metal is more than thick enough where it's not going to bend. Plus, you don't have to press it hard at all to get it to release, which worried me at first, thinking the magazine might not be very secure, but it locks in real well.
You can also use the button, the latch kit comes with another button you'll have to install.
>>30189989
Thanks m8
>>30189989
spend less on food and more and guns fampai ;)
also you think this rifle is just MOA or sub MOA?
>>30191114
No matter how much you spent on that shitter you overpaid
>>30191256
naw i dont do nfa thanks though
>>30173077
I just bought mine. It's really only marginally bigger in any direction.
Is this the right extended charging handle for a PTR-91 GI?l
<http://www.gunbroker.com/item/561880433>
>>30172687
Is that some Indian Creek I see there? Haven't been there in a while
>>30192168
That should work
Also, thanks for posting this. I've never seen them go for this much.
>>30192168
Looks pretty similar.
https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/HK-91-G3-PTR-Cocking-Handle-Extended-125p199.htm
>tfw in commiefornia and fixed 10 round mag (and now they want to take away the bullet button)
>tfw have had my ptr for over a year and now they come with steel trigger housing and grip and a paddle mag for the same price
Still waiting to buy a parkerized housing to "finish" my PTR.
>>30172495
Holy shit op I live in chapin
>>30173307
Is there any possible way I can find those key chains anywhere?
Also anyone know what the deal is with PTR32 Gen2 rifles? They do not seem to be in stock anywhere.
>>30193207
no but here you go
https://www.classicfirearms.com/ptr-762x39-32kfr-200-hk-style-rifle
>>30192656
Crazy. This is a literal 2 stoplight town. I have no idea how we could meet, without divulging way too damned much information here. It would be cool though.
>>30192218
Why yes. Yes it is some Indian Creek!
What's the cheapest poorfag scope I could get away with for a non-railed ptr?
>>30194325
you make a burner email and post it here and tell them to email it and in the reply ask them some questions only someone who knows the area would know then go on from there
>>30194325
>http://10minutemail.com/10MinuteMail/index.html
it creates an email that lasts for 10mintues. use to to get going
>>30194325
IRC channels are a good choice too.
