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Wood Triangle Edition
Old thread here >>30135826
The mags are on their way, it should be a week or two before they arrive
>>30155592
Who could I send it to?
>>30155963
All of em? Or just the pretty plum Pepes and 5.45 bake forties?
>>30155963
money been sent for my 10 mags
>>30155987
Only the 5.45 plums and rpk bakes at the moment.
>>30155990
Thanks!
I have a Century Arms M70 and I put on a Zhukov-S Stock and a Midwest Industries handguard, but that shit is too heavy. Should I just throw a Magpul handguard on or is there something better? I'm in California by the way.
>>30156034
Will you be sending shipping info once you receive the mags and send them out ?
>>30156047
I also forgot to mention I have about 10 Magpul mags, 5 russian mags. Do I need more and if so, any reccomendations? Chinese? Bulgarian? etc.
>>30156060
They have to limited to ten right ?
>>30156075
Yeah. My magpuls are capped at 10 by a piece of wire, but my russian ones are riveted.
>>30155935
Went camping last weekend
>>30156087
You probly have enough but I would try to get some Magpul gen 3 so you can easily convert them to 30 just n case
>>30156148
They are. I may or may not already have some 30s loaded to go you know.
>>30156181
Ah well in that case just buy quality mags for now on tho ammo should be the priority
>>30155935
that's a fucking nice m70 man.
wonder if the wooden triangle would hold.
>>30156047
Which magpul the moe or zhukov handguard. Pic related my wasr with the moe.
>>30156118
I did that 2 weeks ago in Az
Hopefully not a campground Tho right ?
>>30156212
Undecided at the moment. Though the handguard that this guy has is nice. I've wanted to pick one of those up for a while.
>>30156217
>>30156199
Any recommendations on ammo? Self defense, chimp out defense, etc. I use 7.62 Tul for general plinking and what not.
>>30156212
Just put a wood or surplus polymer set if you just want a handguard
>>30156217
Of course not, went to Dawson forest WMA
>>30156227
Can you still order ammo online in cuckfornia? If so get some GT or mil-spec wolf/ Barnaul with the sealant
>>30156255
Nice I fucking hate campgrounds I like to shoot from my camp/fireplace
>>30156279
same, didn't get to shoot though cause I accidentally busted my friends head with a log so we had to take him home
>>30156336
Ha I read that story. That blows but at least you have a funny tale now
>>30155935
sexy wood AK reporting in
>>30156385
Yeah... he ended up not getting a black eye and all they had to do was bond the cut with some glue
>>30155935
hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng
>>30156394
I think it would look better with the slant brake but that's just my opinion
>>30156057
If I can keep all the receipts straight, I will
>>30156714
Cool thanks man it's going to be a month waiting for these
>That feel when desire for an AK with a nicely finished wood stock is increasing.
>That feel when it's too late for me.
>That feel when I cut my tang off for a folding mechanism.
ACE trunnion compatible wood triangle when?
>>30155935
/akg/ what is the cheapest production ak type rifle in 5.56mm?
well this seems like the right thread to ask.
anybody have more info on the mechanism of pic related?
or maybe even close up pics?
>>30156840
Ras 47
>>30156849
I have a bunch on my computer but won't fly home till tonight.
Also know where I could buy one but $$$$
>>30156849
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7O83nrFKEKM
There is also a later design, meant to be fired with it still in the case, but that's harder to find info on.
Cant wait to get my krink back, here's my dads finished one.
>>30156433
not opinion, it's just true fact
>>30157182
Hey zasta which etch should I use for my 89 kit?
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193553&highlight=etch
pic related looks correct but im not sure
I have been getting kinda awful groupings even with my rifle held in place on a bench, is Tula ammo just shit or something?
>>30158063
It's shit. I don't even waste any money on it.
>>30158096
What brand of ammo do you suggest fampai?
>>30158117
Golden Tiger
or at least Brown/ Silver Bear
Tulammo is even worse than Wolf
I'm working on getting my SLR-107ur SBR'd.
Once I cut and crown the barrel, do I need to get it threaded?
Could someone explain, I'm a noob at AK's.
>>30158131
No your sight/gas block should already be threaded
>>30158131
No.
The FSB is the part that's threaded.
>Only pic I could find quickly, showing the thread protector off the FSB.
>>30156212
I have that same forend set up. Switched the muzzle device back to the standard brake. Couldn't get around the corners of my house without going to low ready, which is a problem for me.
>>30158548
>>30158556
thanks, both of you.
Do you have to remove the FSB to cut the barrel? could you walk me through the process? the steps involved.
my gunsmith is pretty good, but I'm not sure he's done a UR before, so I want to make sure it gets done right.
>>30158589
Oh look, another useless trip
>>30158128
What anon said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5mQf9_FsxM
I know this is old news at this point, but does this basically confirm that besides the finish and trigger, SLRs are g2g?
>>30158808
There was never any doubt. Unfortunately a lot of people took the anti-arsenal trolling seriously.
>>30158808
>>30158906
The problem is that it has those and still charge 1200.
>>30158808
>>30158962
honestly they should just cerakote it from the factory.
>>30158906
>Thinking that it's ok to put out a product with shit-tier "quality control", atrocious "customer service" and still charge a premium price.
Wew lad.
People like you are the reason that Arsenal will not change it's god awful business practices.
>>30159028
Exactly if they cerakoted it and used a trigger without reset problems I would feel it would be worth 1200 for me but without that maybe 900-1000.
>>30159038
Welcome to slavshit.
>>30159038
Actually the reason they won't change is because they've cornered the market.
Hi /akg/, how can i distinguish a milled receiver from a stamped receiver?
>>30159125
Milled generally have big rectangles on the side while stamped have little oval-like dimples.
>>30159091
This.
If someone put out a rifle at the durability, accuracy, and cost Arsenal is selling, and on top of that has good customer service, and doesn't have any finish or trigger issues, Arsenal would get its shit pushed in.
But no one so far has been able to do it.
my girls
inb4 flash hider triggers people
>>30159125
One looks like a piece of stamped steel wrapped around and riveted to trunnions, the other looks like it's milled.
>>30159125
here is a picture for guidance
>>30159154
>If someone put out a rifle at the durability, accuracy, and cost Arsenal is selling
It's not just that either, don't forget the list of features
>CHF chromelined barrel
>rifles available in 7.62x39, 5.45x39, 5.56x45, etc
>that sweet folding stock
>foreign made where it counts
>etc
The problem is the American made market's response has been.
>hurr our button rifled nitrided barrels are fine
>there's no demand for AK's in other calibers
>they need to be as cheap as budget AR's cuz they're cheap commie guns
>etc
And as far as imports go, they're spotty at best and none of them have all the features of the Arsenals.
>>30159169
>Lefty eject AK
What is this sorcery?
Also was the pic taken with a potato?
>>30159256
>Lefty eject AK
Surely you jest!
>>30159150
>>30159173
>>30159205
Thx anons !
>>30159205
>that milled receiver
HUNNNNNNNNNF
THICC
>>30159265
>Bolt carrier is on, what is clearly, the left side of the rifle.
I get it's a mirrored pic, but it does look like it.
>>30159313
No, it looks like a mirrored pic, nothing more.
>>30156385
That's a beautiful weapon, anon.
>>30159358
I bet you're fun at parties.
People still falling for the milled meme.
People actually paying more then 875 for an SLR-107FR.
>>30159401
>875 for an SLR-107FR
Where?
And don't say buy used, fag.
>>30159439
I bought mine in summer 2014 NIB for 850 plus 25 for the transfer fee.
>>30159446
So you need a fucking time machine then.
>I bought my chinese AK for $350, so it must only cost that much today.
>>30159446
>>30159446
>2014
Fuck off dumbass
>>30159371
that's a really fat dog
>>30159470
Not my fault. I saw some for 900-1000 arround last September. Snooze you lose. Have fun when Hillary does get elected and they are worth quadruple.
>>30159468
>hey guys, do you think if I walk into the shop with this ad and demand their advertised price they'll honor it?
>>30159470
Do you want some cheese with that whine?
>>30159446
>>30159505
What's the point of bringing it up?
>>30159722
People are idiots for paying anything more then the 900 dollars for one.
I'm looking to pick up a period correct muzzle break for a 1988 themed AK74. I'm currently using a Bulgarian zigzag.
Also there's a Russian 74M brake for sale on the Files for $100 for those of you who collect muzzle breaks (I know there's a few of you)
Between 3 and 3B on this page (two piece faceted and modified two piece) would be the appropriate one?: http://www.k-var.com/shop/skin1/pages/US/Articles/Muzzle_Brake/article01.html
I'm assuming 3B/modified two piece, but would the earlier faceted brake still be considered correct? I'm just trying to figure out how much I should expect to pay for one or the other and how uncommon they are. I see Russian zigzags pop up fairly often for around $60-$80, but I've never paid enough attention until fairly recently when I started looking for one of these.
>>30159803
I have no idea how the part about the 74M brake for sale ended up in the middle of all that shit when I ctrl+v'd everything else from the previous thread after I typed the 74M brake part. Somehow it split my pasted text in two around what I had already typed
>>30159803
Probably 3
http://www.avtomats-in-action.com/pro17.html
http://www.avtomats-in-action.com/pro25.html
These are the closest examples I have off the top of my head. Also I bought mine from russiansurplus for 90 bucks, pic related.
New to these threads. I've got more handguns than I know what to do with and a few cheapo AR's. I'm thinking about buying my first AK for that glorious wood furniture.
What's the best place to buy from. I'm also trying to see if I want to get something compact, but I'm fine with full size.
>>30160006
Atlantic Firearms or KVAR
Arsenal SLR-107FR.
Buy once. Cry once.
>>30159739
>people are idiots for bringing up prices from 2 years ago as if they're relevant to the prices of today.
>FTFY
That'd be like saying it's stupid to pay more than $350 for an unconverted Saiga and completely ignoring everything that's happened, which influences its price, since they were that cheap at one time.
You're retarded for thinking that more than $900 is a bad price, for a 107fr, since you base your "logic" on
>"not my fault you couldn't see into the future to determine what prices were going to do."
>>30160019
Thanks man.
>>30160057
You're welcome anon.
>>30160028
They are pretty revelant. That's what they were going for before Arsenal announced it was running out due to the ME contracts. Then the pre panic buyers caused the spike in price.
>>30160195
>They are pretty revelant. That's what they were going for before
relevant*
>relevant
>were going for before
>before
So an event occurred, the market changed accordingly, and the previous price is no longer relevant to today's market.
If they start getting enough in to end the panic, then the old prices will be relevant, but supply and demand (or the perception of) is a bitch sometimes.
>>30158962
>The problem is that it has those and still charge 1200.
This right here.
>>30156118
Opap best pap.
>>30159256
>>30159265
taken with iphone 5s
and the pic is flipped, both aks are right eject
Anyone ever handle one of those okp-7s? I like the look and how low it is but they seem kinda delicate.
>>30155935
>wood triangle
My dick is so hard I'm finding new dirt rings. Fuggg
How much wood have you all had to file down when fitting a buttstock into a receiver? Mine is absolutely facing a lot of resistance halfway into it. I've been Filing but it doesn't seem to be helping at all.
>>30162035
It's all fun and games until it breaks, although I bet that took a solid pound off the weight of the rifle.
>>30162221
It's an aesthetics thing.
>>30162050
Show pics. What type of buttstock are you trying to fit into what type of rifle?
>>30162050
hit it against the ground until it fits
>>30162641
Don't do this unless you're sure you want that stock in your rifle forever or don't mind damaging it when you change it. It should be only so tight so that you have to tap it in with your palm.
>>30162297
>>30162641
Finally got the damn thing on. That was a bitch
hello akg. does anyone here have experience with the tws dogleg gen 2 dustcovers? I've heard very mixed opinion while doing research and i wanted some first hand experience on whether it holds zero or not.
>>30163378
Just don't drop it, bump it, sneeze on it, and it'll probably hold zero
Relatively new to /k/. I just picked up a C39v2 recently. Does /k/ hate me? Just couldn't afford a Arsenal right now.
>>30163531
hate is a strong word.
Pity would be closer
>>30163531
We don't hate you, we just think you should euthanize yourself. The C39V2 and RAS-47 are both trash. You should have just gotten a WASR.
>>30163554
Couldn't find any WASRs locally. I'm happy with it, got about 1k rounds through it without any failures with shitty ammo.
I'm more of a lever action guy, but never owned semi rifle.
t. old guy
>>30163612
Good luck when it's headspace walks out I guess. It's your face.
>>30163612
Then order one online because now you need a set of headspace go-nogo gauges and check it before every time you go to the range, it will eventually walk out of headspace could be 500 rounds could be 5000 but it will eventually happen.
>>30163641
>headspacing waling out
>on a gun where the barrel is literally pressed and pinned into place
if you're going to shitpost, couldn't you at least make it entertaining?
>>30163612
make sure to report back when it blows up in your face.
>>30163665
It's more of a pounding its way out because Century can't properly heat treat their "USA made" Parts.
>>30163665
You must be new here. AKOU's rifle's headspace closed on a no-go gauge after less than 5000 rounds.
>>30163693
It was a RAS-47 btw. It's mostly an issue with the shitty barrels in my opinion.
>>30163704
Mel64d literally tested every part for hardness and the only good part was the barrel. So no, you're wrong.
>>30163665
Never underestimate the ability of Century to fuck up shit.
>>30163531
>>30163549
>>30163554
>>30163612
>>30163641
>>30163658
>>30163665
>>30163677
>>30163686
>>30163693
>>30163704
I have a C39V2 as well. Almost 6k rounds through it and no issues, not even with headspacing. Almost everything else Century is garbage but the C39V2 really isn't bad, except for a few isolated incidents everyone says it works fine after a long time.
Quick question for anyone who knows, but is there a place I can source a Tantal optics rail? The only place I've found was Collector's Source DFW, and they only did a limited production run.
>>30163721
>test the hardness of the outside of the barrel
>not the inside of the steel
Wew. Doesn't mean much with the barrel
>>30163733
>t. Century rep
Fuck off shill. Also
>he thinks 6k rounds is a lot.
>>30163741
Yaaaa. go ahead and test the INSIDE of some steel for me. Dipshit.
>>30163749
>liking something is shilling
Standard /k/.
Also, 6k IS a lot when apparently the headspace is doomed from the start.
>>30163755
>what is cutting a cross section of barrel
Are you retarded?
>>30163763
No it is not by any means a lot for a proper ak I would continue to watch it because those rifles do have many problems. Preferably just sell it and buy something that's not eventually going to explode in your face.
>>30163763
The hardness of all its internals is off and that will eventually cause problems.
>>30163741
>>30163780
Why would you cut up something you're trying to re use? The barrel hardness has nothing to do with the headspace being off.
>>30163806
I'll keep watching but I really doubt if it's going to do anything after coming this far.
>>30163845
Source?
>>30163850
>The barrel hardness has nothing to do with the headspace being off.
It does when the groove for the barrel pin eggs out.
So why are aks better than ars?
>>30163886
The ras47 hardness tests, he also comments about testing a 39 and a v2 and they are slowly getting closer to right currently the barrel is correct or close to it and everything lese is off.
>>30163921
Who gives a fuck
>>30159887
>>30159803
>>30158808
Fuck that plum stuff looks so good. Should I get plum on my 106 or just leave the black? Sucks knowing I can never get plum mags...
>>30163932
I'll look it up, thanks for the info.
But either way, I'm happy with my rifle and nearly everyone else is as well.
>>30163955
You can fake plum by dying mags.
>>30163964
The RAS they tested started failing headspace after like 4 or 5k rounds. So it's always possible, it's good to check headspace anyways if you shoot that much regardless of shitty guns or not.
>>30163965
No shit? I need to look into this. Something tells me if I tried it I'd fuck it up.
>>30163982
Oh, I know the RAS is total shit. Never denied that. I'm talking about the C39V2. But either way, yeah, always good to check. Mine's still good after almost 6k.
>>30164010
>I'm talking about the C39V2
For all intents and purposes they're the same thing.
>>30164001
https://youtu.be/Tsr4d7gbnao
It's not hard. Just make sure the mags you want to dye are lighter in color or your result may vary.
>>30164096
Don't you mean intensive porpoises?
>>30164096
Maybe similar, but far from the same thing. I think that shows when you look at how the RAS is widely hated but the C39V2 is usually well-liked. Look at the Rob Ski testing, too.
>>30164130
>the C39V2 is usually well-liked
Wew
>>30164134
>The C39V2 is usually well-liked everywhere that isn't /k/, and excepting isolated reviews
Sorry, fixed
>>30164154
"No"
>>30158117
Tulammo for blasting/plinking
all other E. Euro sttel case for general use
Golden Tiger for stockpiling and accuracy
>>30156423
Why do I keep seeing blue tape on AKs? What am I missing?
>>30164225
When it's just on one mag and not taping them together it's usually so you can identify whose mags are whose and also make them easier to see/more visible if you drop them and need to pick them up, the latter being less of a thing.
>>30164225
it's the Commie equivalent of duct tape.
>>30164278
Not duct tape, it's electrical tape.
>>30164288
EQUIVALENT
>checked
>>30164302
Duct tape and electrical tape are two totally different things.
>>30164307
god you're thick
us non-commies use freedom tape (aka duct tape or duck tape) for all the little things we need to like taping mags together and fixing 1982 Chevrolets
commies don't have freedom/duck/duct tape or Chevrolets so they use electrical tape to fix their Trabants and what have you
Anyone know where to buy steel AK74 mags or do I have to keep trolling gun shows?
>>30164379
Last I saw apex had some but I think thier sold out
>I just got pic related on a trade
>>30164379
i think ur fuked
>>30164405
Anyone think we'll see Draco ak pistols for 3?? Again?
>>30164010
I hope you have some commie headspace gauges, the ras and c39 series use the same bolt.
>>30163554
I am the anon with Norinco type56, I am fully respected in /akg/
Kek kek kek kek
>>30156118
oh yeah? yugo camping
>>30159803
Underrated post
>>30163704
The barrel was fine, because century didn't make it. But the front trunnion was smashed to shit if I remember correctly
>>30164379
>wanting steel 5.45 magazines
they don't even look good on 74's
>slav quality
>>30167190
mujahedin quality
>>30167176
Oh but they do.
>>30167221
Is that a NATO stock?
>>30167231
>NATO stock
What?
r8 my new tee
>>30164379
4 steel tantal mags cerakoted green, 180
dunno if you want that
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261651
>>30167231
>>30167250
He means NATO length stock, and it doesn't look long enough to be NATO length. It's probably just the angle that makes it look long.
>>30167251
Need details on bike
>>30167226
I agree
>>30167313
>IO furniture on a saiga
For what purpose?
>>30167339
im guessing for dat clubfoot
>>30167366
Even the pistol grip though.
>>30167339
I got it that way I'm in the process of changing it
>dam wasr stock I put on broke during test firing lol
>>30167419
not buying surplus wood stock
>why niga
>>30167313
>>30167226
Bakelite is love, bakelite is life.
>>30167419
The fuck is wrong with you?
apexgunparts.com/catalogsearch/result/?cat=43&q=Buttstock
>>30167456
I had the stock steady from my wasr
>>30167481
*already
>>30167481
do you regret not getting a 107, or are 5.45 aks fun?
>>30167519
Well as of now I own 2 5.45 I don't regret anything. I love my wasr and its everything I want in a 7.62x39 ak
5.45 is lighter and more applicable to my needs
omg it's soo cute
>>30167541
Nutn, that you?
>>30167592
>nutn?
Hey guys, am I allowed in here?
>>30167554
I wish there were some short 5.45 magazines for bench rest shooting that arn't complete shit.
magpul pls
>>30167688
Make some then.
>Or have Bad Element do it for you.
>>30167688
I ground off the front lug of a Saiga 5.45 magazine to make it lock up in my SLR
>>30167875
I don't have a before picture
>>30167892
>>30167875
sweet. do you have a top down picture for a better idea of how much to take off?
>>30167847
>turning a slabside into a tanker
heresy.
>>30159887
Cool thanks, I've gotten a few other answers on /k/ and from AKfiles and everyone minus a few have said it would be the faceted brake. I just wanted to make sure I was wanting the proper one before actually buying one.
>>30163955
Depends on what you want it to look like. I'd stick with black with that because I think black furniture with black waffle mags looks great.
>>30165799
Why? I'm asking a specific question, not dropping some dank ass memes
>>30168199
>>30168185
I did it some vepr mags, took off about half of the front lug.
>>30168569
thanks.
>>30167190
Nah, just salted/spiked ammo. Usually I'd say it's a head-spacing issue like in link related but that's too much damage for just a headspace issue.
>>30169125
>link
I meant webm related. Fuck
>>30167672
4 me ...yes
>>30168185
Basically all I did was try to replicate the exact shape of what my plum and bakelite magazines looked like with a bastard file.
Hey /akg/ what are the differences in Saiga and Vepr magazines in .308?
>>30170625
They're different.
>>30167875
this is what the AKM dimensions look like
>>30170682
catch
>>30170682
>>30170693
>2016
>implying we can use metrics
Fuck you
>>30170708
>>30170693
convert to SAE (inch) with google or buy metric calipers
>>30170716
3
what was VAfag's email? i'v gone thru 3 old threads and i dont see it
>>30170663
helpful, what is different
Here is a rather old photo of my 74 clone.
>>30171101
The mags.
What do you guys think of DDI? My LGS owner is super cool and is bringing some in from his dealer for me.
>>30171174
Hungarian design, so some furniture may need to be fitted.
Otherwise good to go and pretty decent for the price.
>>30171159
My 74 clone and AKM clone.
will 45 round 545 rpk bakelites fit in a slr104/sgl
>>30171159
>>30171215
>AK-74 clone
>is an SAR-2
>>30171304
Unless you meant AIMS-74, which you clearly didn't given that you refereed to it as a "74"
>>30171304
It's a ROMAK-2. It's certainly not a '47' or an 'AKM' as it's chambered in 5.45x39mm.
>>30171813
Still does't make it an AK-74 senpai. It's as much of an AK-74 as a Tantal is.
>>30171848
Ignoring this autistic dude.
>>30171880
Kill yourself.
>>30160577
yessir
>>30165519
kek
>>30170943
I got you senpai.
[email protected]
>>30171813
what is up with that charging handle?
>>30172494
Blames the gypsies
>>30171174
Who are you getting one from?
>>30172609
but it looks fine here >>30171215
I am confused...
>>30172754
You can buy one yourself
http://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-053.html
>>30172494
It's a Romanian thing. Supposed to make it easier to access the charging handle with the side folding stock.
>>30172754
I swapped the bolt carrier for a standard model.
>>30172782
>>30172794
Learned something new today. I had no idea that even existed.
>>30172685
RJ from RJ's Gun Store in Oklahoma
>>30172837
>inb4 he charges you $850 for the damn thing
What is a good price for an SLR-104FR with a single magazine put through it? I found one near me on Armslist that looks promising.
>>30172837
Ah not in OK, havent seen any local at all and like to see guns in person b4 i buy, what model are you getting?
>>30172966
I got mine from my dealer for $1065 out the door, so I'd say realistically, about $1k, unless it was 7N6 and it was a year ago, and he didn't use water to stop the salts from corroding shit.
If you can get it for less, obviously do that.
>>30172966
$1k or so. Depends on how bad you want it.
>>30173020
>I got mine from my dealer
brand new*
>>30172966
$900 the trigger is crap and the finish might be.
>>30173062
"No"
>>30173070
Why the trigger has known reset problems across all models and the finish is a crapshoot.
>>30173020
>>30173030
It looks brand new from the photos and he still has the box and there is oil showing in some places so I assume hes taken care of it.
I'll shoot him an offer of $1k and see if he takes it.
>>30173110
yet they still sell for around $1.1k all day long.. makes you think doesn't it?
>>30173136
Used? Also how fools spend their money does not mean something is worth that much.
>>30173166
That's actually exactly what determines it's worth or value in a market.
>>30173129
Just buy a new one I paid 1066$ out the door
>>30173202
yeah but I can inspect this one in person and see if it's GTG without having to refuse a transfer and jump through hoops.
>>30172946
He's actually a pretty cool guy. At first he was advertising the C39V2 and spent quite a while finding the best price he could from his distributors. Went from like $760 to like $699, so he seems like a cool guy.
>>30172972
Whatever's cheapest. Hoping for a solid wood stock but whatever's the best price.
>>30156212
what forehand grip is that?
