M'anbiji edit
SDF crossed the Euphrates and captured some villages.
Amphibious assault
>>30138198
where is that?
>>30138073
What's going on in Iraq?
>>30138367
Syria on the Euphrates river. South of Kobane.
>>30138404
The assault on Fallujah has stalled due to concerns about ISIS using civilians as human shields. So the ISF and Militia are trying to surround the city and basically starve them out
Jarabulus next?
>>30138936
>oh no we might accidentally kill some civilians
>lets just starve them all instead
10/10 logic.
>>30139097
lel that grenade launcher has Oury fixfag hipster meme grips
>>30138936
It's stalled because its gonna be a fucking bloodbath
>>30139460
This
Heres the last thread:
>>30100269
Thanks god we ain't gonna need to read the questions of the lost guys from the MEG thread. Now remember, this thread is for the discussion of the military aspects of the wars and conflicts on the Middle east. Be polite, contribute and back your points with proofs.
For reports:
-After crossing the Qarah Qawzaq bridge and link with the forces coming from the Tishrin Dam, the majority of the fighting between the SDF/YPG against ISIS is happening around Karsan, east of Manbij.
-The SAA is preparing something in Aleppo, as they are bombing and shelling the northern outskirts of the city. Soon we will discover what it is; two bets could be the encirclement of the Rebels in Aleppo itself, or another assault to take back Khan Touman.
-Major General Ashraf Taha, Syrian police I presume, was released by the prisoners of the Hama Central Prison (Yes, this shit is still ongoing). He is in good health.
I gonna let Fallujah and Deir ez zor to Five Stars.
>>30139709
Aight
Where is Khan Touman again? West of Aleppo?
>>30140038
Yep, it's more like southwest of Aleppo.
Some reports that I forgot to post, before I leave for today:
- Southern Front Rebels declared that they will now only focus on fighting ISIS forces and affiliates in the Region.
- A 47 hours truce that was being proposed was acepted by both parts in Daraaya.
- Ivan Sidorenko is saying that the SAA preparations for pushing east, from Palmyra, towards Deir ez Zor are all done, and that now they will begin this operation. (?!?)
https://twitter.com/Mohamma07193029/status/738081193359507457
Iraqi Helos bombarding Fallujah
>>30139097
>US SF on the ground backing Marxist-Anarchists against a faction backed by an unhinged NATO 'ally'
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE
>>30141489
I'm not sure that calling them Marxist is accurate, since their ideology deviates quite a bit from his, communist, a much broader word fits them better imo.
T. Communism expert.
Breaking of IS taking the village of Um Thubyan on the Iraqi/Syrian border, near Shadadi, from the YPG/SDF in a surprise attack today. This could be ISs responding to Manbij. They love open a new front in the middle of a opposition offensive.
-heavy fighting in Deir Ezzor but nothing big so far
-IS still in Kafr Kalbyn between Azaz and Mare
-air raids across Syria, too many to list
-SDF/YPG continues their attack toward Manbij but I have no breaking on it.
Fighting continues around Fallujah. AJ story on at least 130 Iraqi forces killed around Fallujah.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/06/battle-fallujah-iraqi-troops-die-isil-attacks-160602040503487.html
>>30143965
Also heavy fighting between IS and the SAA north of Ithriya at a checkpoint. It's serious enough the Ruaf has seen over the area.
>>30143983
Pro SAA sources claim this fighting is a major SAA offensive toward Raqqa. Guess this is it.
I will be out for part of my morning, but gonna let some stuff for you guys here. Use Dr Partizan twitter to get some good footage and images of the new Manbij operation.
As some images show, both passageways of the Qareqowzaq bridge have been destroyed, and the SDF/YPG used rafts to tranpass the river. Also, by the images, it seems that the majority of the forces are from the arab groups of the SDF, like the Northern Sun Battalion which the logo appear in some technicals.
According to Hassan Ridha, the clashes are still 10km away from Manbij, mainly in the cities/villages of Kharfan, Karsan and Jubb Hasan Agha, as the SDF approach in three wings.
>>30143999
IS released a short statement, they are facing a major attack by the SAA/Ruaf at this point.
>>30144011
Here's a image of the condition of said bridge.
>>30144015
Why the hell they used this kind of font?
>>30144011
>Floating a excavator across
Fuck digging trenches with a shovel.
Last image before I leave, until later.
>>30144011
I do have more on the Manbij offensive. IS claims 10 US airstrikes east and south of the SDF/YPG advance and now a IS counter attack at Khafiat Abu Qalqal. If that is true this is the first attempt by IS to slow them down. Before this they were offering token resistance and falling back toward Manbji.
Ruaf and USAF are very active with IS trying to counter. Weather forecasting steel rain for the next few hours.
>>30144015
IS now claims to have repelled the SAA attack north of Ithriya. Pro rebel source claims SDF/YPG advanced at Jubb Nashab in the ongoing fighting around Manbij.
That's it for now. Will return if it's called for or later.
>>30144450
Interesting stuff
>>30144450
Pro SAA source, Hassan, is saying that the SAA forces advance is still ongoing in the north Ithriya area; They reported the capture of some four hills east of Ithriya and reports of heavy artillery are bombarding on ISIS positions along the Ithriya-Tabqa highway. Looks like that is from here that the SAA have choosen to start advancing towards Taqba/Raqqa, but is still some 100km to go.
Hassan also reported that ISIS have captured Um al-Dhubyan, southeast of al-Shadadi, and Um Jaris, southeast of al-Khatouniyah, after clashes with SDF in Hassakah governorate. If true, is probably the tipical ISIS "gonna press you elsewhere when under threat" tactic.
>>30144015
they kill they rape and they treat their gear like shit. all that i can deal with, but releasing their statements in Comic fucking Sans.. its too fucking much..
Before I post more photos from the Manbij, news from the Afrin Canton; Looks like that the Turkish Army entered into Afrin again, and it seems that they are preparing to build a wall.
More than that, Asayîş (Rojava security forces) from Efrîn region arrested Rebels in Qatma village, that are hidding among the refugees from the Azaz pocket.
News from Latakia, by Hassan:
- A suicide attack killed five people near Caliphs al Rashideen Mosque in Latakia city. He also adds that security forces stopped a second attack to take place in the city.
>>30144823
ERDOGAN'S GREAT WALL
didn't read this for months
nothing in news
who is winning?
>>30144917
US :^)
>>30144942
so, isil...
fuck...
>>30144978
Was that a /pol/e?
>>30144777
I would like some evidence being IS completely denies any advance, killing 15 SAA and capturing 5 before they retreated. I don't believe IS sources either until further info.
https://twitter.com/JohnArterbury/status/738394760344309765
Arterbury with the full statement. I think some healthy skepticism is deserved for both claims.
That said pro IS sources are not disputing the YPG/SDF Manbji offensive gains to a point, barring a few villages. SDF/YPG still moving on Manbji however their paced slowed a little.
I'll follow up with whatever the case is.
Talking about sketchy or maybe not so sketchy IS claims today in Fallujah to have blown up 2 Abrams MBTs on the bridge in southern Fallujah with ATGMs.
https://twitter.com/AJABreaking/status/738398644970389506
AJA of a IS VBIED killing 25 Iraqi forces in northern Fallujah just now
Full 5 min video of the YPG/SDF Manbji offence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGdEf5tUyow
Liveumap of the Aleppo area as pro Syrian gov sources claim another Aleppo offensive is coming.
Pro rebel source reporting heavy IS counter attack around Manbji ongoing now.
https://twitter.com/VivaRevolt/status/738409361081524225
IS likes to do their main attacks at night. I wouldn't doubt this. US SF is probably ringing up CAS now.
>>30145686
Same pro rebel source with YPG/SDF gains.
https://twitter.com/VivaRevolt/status/738412606583492608
YPG/SDF are closing in on inner IS defensive lines. This is why IS started to make a stand.
Lastly a Orlan-10 Russian drone shot down over Latakia. With reports of IS counter attacking near Manbji and disputed reports of the SAA offensive toward Raqqa I can't wait to see how this shapes up tomorrow. Major battles ongoing.
>>30146032
Any word on the Daesh counter attack, I'm guessing the SDF/YPG are doing what they do best and defending pretty well especially with USSF in the area the CAS must be ridiculous?
>>30144011
>>30144036
Wasn't that bridge blown up a long while ago to keep the SDF at bay?
>>30144015
>That font.
If all IS tweets were formatted like that my sides will be gone.
>>30144036
>Why the hell they used this kind of font?
Isn't this just a clientside font that whoever screencapped this was using?
how al nosra is doing in syria ?
They are still relevant ?
>>30141489
Anarchist- Maybe
Marxist- No
Definitely a variety of Libertarian Socialist though
>>30148232
They're basically in charge of the FSA in the Idlib Governate, to be very short about it.
>>30141489
>be granddad fight commies in vietnam
>be step-granddad spend war decryption commie radio chatter.
>be great uncles spend decades in Germany with army
>be dad spend half of life worrying about commie take over and nuclear apoc
>lots of vets at my church all hate commies
>love og red dawn
>syria starts
> government all like btw we supporting commies,
fuck cant our gov have a little integrity make a truce with isis and kill the commies. i know some arabic and i know for a fact that several times isis leaders have hinted they would want at lest a ten year truce, i also remebr twitter when isis bumrushed the commies and how they were screaming that isis was american funded. no matter how much we hate them it better than funding frolicking commies. not to mention commies that have been fight natos second biggest spender for 30 years
>>30144803
Truly they are fucking monsters.
>>30149052
>Fund commies to buttfuck islamists in syria
>Let turkey buttfuck commies in syria after islamists dead because "muh national security"
>Let Russia buttfuck turkey in syria on syrias behalf because "muh national sovereignty"
mfw
Latest reports of fights from the Manbij front are of clashes on Abo Qalqal and al-Nashi villages, south of Manbij, some hours ago.
Early in the day, clashes have also been reported on Dushan, east of Manbij, as ISIS was probably trying to delay the SDF advance or repel them back to their bridge head.
Talking on the Qara Qawzaq bridge, SDF/YPG started to repair the bridge, and when I say repair, it means pic related; nothing out of extraordinary, just put lots of rocks on the downed parts of the bridge.
Pro Kurdish, Dr Partizan, is saying that one NRT journalist is saying that the SDF/YPG are already on Manbij outskirts, and that ISIS is using civilians as human shields.
Back to Afrin Canton, the YPG stopped a van loaded with ammo coming from Turkey that was meant for the Rebels, that what they said.
In Mare, North Aleppo, Coalition planes dropped crates with supplies for the Rebels over there, as they are still cutted off from the Azaz pocket and the Turkish border.
The pro SAA sources still claim that the SAA is advancing along the Ithiyra-Taqba Highway. The composition of their forces are: the Desert Hawks, elements/remnants of the 10th or 11th Armored Division, NDF, and elements from other militia groups, like the SSNP.
Here's a video of them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs48EViqxMQ
>>30144978
The fuck are you on about? ISIS hasn't been able to pull off anything like the older offensives. They're being hemmed in, slowly but surely.
>>30150113
Hot damn, the Kurds are on a role what with floating shit across the river on barges and pushing IS back. I'm aware of the support they're getting from the air but they've come a long way from the beginning of the war. I do think the move for immediate autonomy was premature though, should've waited for that.
Catching up on what I missed IS made advances in Jubb al-Jarrah, eastern Homs. Everything else will have to wait until the morning reports start.
>>30150526
ISs most recent battlefield victory was at Shaer. On a strategic level they stopped 1,000s of barrels of oil instantly. Resource wise it doesn't get any worse.
>>30152704
doesn't isis still control Shaer at the moment?
>>30152704
hey 5 star you hear anything about the russians air dropping armor into deir ezzor yesterday? the dude on twitter said "light tanks" but i assume he means something in the bmd family
>>30153586
isis conducted a night attack in mare last night but the fsa repelled it, they claim to have killed "tens" of them what ever that means. mare is still going heavy. thats all i got.
>>30153586
Please be sprut PLEASE BE SPRUT
>>30153080
Yes IS still controls Shaer. While IS has not had their old major city victories I wanted to point out they still have made advancements. Shaer isn't a joke, it's a real strategic lose.
New map of the Manbji offence as SDF/YPG approach the gates of the city. Losing Manbji would be a strategic lose to IS.
>>30153586
I don't know what kind of tanks were dropped. I will wait until someone like Oryx figures it out.
Pic is a captured IS PPsh
Also Jaf moving on the Kahn Touman warehouses today. It was the closest point the Shia mulitas/Iranians got in their effort to re take Khan Touman before stalling
>>30150113
>The pro SAA sources still claim that the SAA is advancing along the Ithiyra-Taqba Highway
And they have been , more progress on the roads there today although I am not sure of the extent of it. Pro rebel source markio says they are only 60kms away from Tabaqah now. IS flatly lied about repelling them.
>>30141489
>>30143712
they are left wing in the name only, because of propaganda reasons. they were supported by Soviets in the 80s though
t. turkfag
Why is the US assisting the Kurds push to Raqqa with SOF as frontline units only now? Do they really wanna get there before the SAA does?
The Kurds will not hand over the governorate once the fanatics have been purged, which is what the US is banking on I'm sure.
>>30154594
Just as recently as the US Iraq war the CIA made contacts with Iranian based PJAK/PKK branch and they are considered the most left wing of all PKK branches.
Some media reports were accusing Bush of supporting terrorists due to this.
So, how is Yemen doing at the moment?
>>30154779
tl;dr stalemate
Map of Jaf advancing around Khan Touman in a new offensive. Jund al-Aqsa/TIP is involved as usual
Is Manbij a diversion op so the SAA can push towards Al Tabqah, get the dam back and then Raqqa? Good old keep 'em busy
>>30154815
Reported rapid progress made by Jaf at Qarassi hills and a air defense battalion nearby. Heavy SAA/Shia militia casualties as well as Ruaf air strikes. Knowing TIP/Jund/JAN some good videos will come out of this.
>>30154410
Latest reports on the Manbij front, are that SDF currently have the south gate of the city in their sights and are shelling the silos on the outskirts, but, according to this source, they "will not storm city until units from Qarah Qawzaq reach east side of city".
The advance of the SDF/YPG forces coming from the bridge got somehow stalled or slowed down, as they are encountering stiff resistence from ISIS defenders in that area.
>>30154514
Damn, I feel sorry for that PPSH.
>>30154618
>>30154862
The whole Raqqa offensive seems now, almost certain, to have been a hoax to distract ISIS from the main real operation, that is the advance against Manbij.
>>30154573
The SAA taking Taqba would be glorious for the kurds and regime, and totally ruinous for ISIS
A picture today before the Jaf offensive. With men wearing helmets , tac gear and alots of armor/heavy weapons they are beginning to look like a real army instead of rag tag rebels.
>>30155001
Ok? I don't think I ever said otherwise.
>>30155015
Well as a tax payer i am completely in shocked how put together >>this
Other than that top kek
>>30154514
>That tacky IS sticker on the drum magazine.
What a disgrace.
Latest pro SAA reports that the SAA forces are now 47 km away from Tabqa, after they took control of the Zakia junction.
Back in Manbij, reports od SDF moving again in the east, as they captured more two positions/villages.
Reports that ISIS, in response to latest SDF/YPG advances, attacked Ayn Issa and the south of Suluk.
In iraq, Peshmergas repelled ISIS assaults on their newly acquired territory, east of Mosul, but one Pesh commander got killed.
>>30155015
JAN announced a 2nd phase to this offensive. JAN said they are kicking off the second half at Humeira with one VBIED already used and reports of them inside the village. This is in the direction north of Al Hadher.
>>30154594
Fuck off cockroach, you don't have any power here.
>>30155310
JAN has taken Humeira. JAN is moving on Khalsah.
>>30155384
Jaf claims taking Khalasah. Latest map , Jaf just cut a path through southern Aleppo. Shia militias left to fend for themselves at this point.
>>30155480
Odds of JAN keeping these gains?
>>30155521
The question I would ask are the odds of SAA forces keeping Al Hadher. If they lose Hadher than all bets are off.
Russians blowing up some shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=117&v=DqM7hqNdI1w
>>30155480
New map, Khalasah still in SAA hands. They are still fighting over it. Shia militia holding but they need help fast.
Breaking from Deir Ezzor
https://twitter.com/DeirEzzor_SS/status/738758510310232064
This tweet is Deir Ezzor SS saying that IS took the top of Mt. Thardeh in Deir Ezzor
IS has released the video around Mt. Thardeh today
http://agencyvideos.pw/v/rr03062016.mp4
Footage of SAA forces being gunned down in retreat but what struck me is it sounds like some IS kids are shooting them.
>>30155621
Russia run extensive air campaign, while U.S deploy special forces on the ground...
>>30155661
Russia's intervention is one of the cheapest in modern history, they're using old stockpile bombs of which they have millions and they already had a presence and military infrastructure in Syria so its basically just wages and fuel. (And cost of repairs/replacements of course)
There is a IS counter attack around Manbji right now. Not sure of the extent. A couple of VBIEDs and one ATGM hit. US airstrikes have been working these areas hard. As the SDF/YPG approaches the city IS is going to show if they intend on defending it or abandoning it.
More US airstrikes after another failed Iraqi army/Shia militia attack near Fallujah today too.
Major battles across Syria ongoing. This is exciting.
>>30155346
Easy there son. We made a cease fire with the turks no need to stir it up again.
https://twitter.com/24Aleppo/status/738777617202085892
Aleppo24 making a serious claim that a US solider has been killed near Manbji and two SDF members. I won't vouch for the source, just posting it,
Livemap reports that the kurds have reached Manbij silos at the south. Fuck that's pretty much the southern entrance of the city.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phf-M4gKMuc
>>30139460
What kind of fantastic gopro footage can we expect? Do they plan to invade the city 1 building at a time or are they going to something incompetent like drive tanks in their on their own without infantry support?
Why is Manbij so important?
Does taking it cut the oil route to Turkey?
>>30156539
It's a IS hub. A lot of their fighters are based there. While these same fighters go to locations in eastern Homs or Aleppo etc their "home base" so to speak is Manbij. They may defend it fiercely. So far they melted out of the countryside. The city is another matter.
If they do with US SF on hand plus a large SDF/YPG force it could turn into a large battle.
>>30156539
It's where a lot of ISIS families live.
It's also a big transit point for goods and supplies.
It also completely dominates the surrounding area, because it is the biggest city there.
>>30155646
Another JAN VBIED in reported in Khalasah and JAN claiming SAA forces retreated from Qalaajiyah. It's on the side closer to M5. Those guys are in trouble.
Jaf came out swinging today and it's a disaster for the Shia militia on the front lines. I am sure a few Iranians got caught in it as well but most of them are in Al Hadher.
Some minor but interesting stuff from the SAA advance towards Raqqa;
- The SSNP boys in charge of dismantling ISIS IEDs during fights near Zakia crossroads had found something very creative and deadly; ISIS IEDs disguised as rocks, as you can see in the picture.
The SAA troops also killed the ISIS driver of a BMP SVBIED, before he could detonate. They also claim that they killed 70 ISIS fighters around the Zakia junction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF7j6B3ruHY
Jaf video preview from southern Aleppo today. They have some go pro footage.
>>30157186
Here's the ISIS BMP SVBIED that the SAA captured near Zakia.
>>30157018
Qalaajiyah has been captured , rumored high death toll from JAN gunning down those retreating.
>>30157186
IS love IEDs
Faylaq Al-Sham commander, Lieu. Col. Bilal al-Atrash, was killed today in south Aleppo.
As many of the footage already posted here can clearly show, the Rebels in SOuth Aleppo are using, again, agressive and quick armored attacks against the the Shia militia guarded positions, to quick gain small concentrated objectives. The South Aleppo Rebels are generally the factions in this civil war who best use their armored assets.
According to pro SAA sources, clashes are now at Qal'ajiyah and Khalsah, and pro gv forces still hold Qarassi. I think that if the SAA let the Shia militias to fend of the Rebels attack for themselves, the shia militias will probably keep losing.
In North Aleppo, Azaz Rebels are preparing to try to break out the MAre siege, again.
Map of the SAA advance toward Tabqa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McabrBm3ZbI
JAN video from Khan Touman ammo storage area. The first to be taken today.
>>30157451
>According to pro SAA sources, clashes are now at Qal'ajiyah
Pro rebel sources claim it just fell. This reminds me of the last southern Aleppo offensive only with the sides switched around.
Is SOHR accurate or biased in its casually estimates?
>>30157566
It was posted 17 minutes ago, when I typed it you have already reported that it have fallen and I didn't have time to change.
I gonna leave now, but damn, it almost looks like it's just me and you here right now. Wished the anons contributed a little more to the threads.
See you tomorrow.
>>30154514
Well as far as I know there are no pictures right now, and for all I know it might have never happened but we'll find out soon enough
>>30157671
It's dead of night there, I probably won't have more until the morning either unless southern Aleppo villages keep falling over like dominoes.
>>30154618
Well Raqqa is Arab territory. I wouldn't I it past the Kurds to try and hold it permenently but if they try to hold a lot of Arab land after this is all over that will mean another war
The SAA seem to be gaining ground in the east while being chewed and losing west of Allepo, that is quite concerning
>>30155015
Earlier on in the war I could usually tell Jan videos from any other groups because they tried very hard to look professional
>>30157451
Well what happened to all that fucking armor the saa put in Aleppo? I think it's obvious it was a bluff now but is it all moving toward Raqqa did they not leave anything behind Incase this happened?
>>30157743
The Kurds has that taken into account by adopting some level of power-sharing of captured territory with SDF Arabs, especially along the lower reaches of the Euphrates where Arabs are more numerous. The SDF has already made a statement during the current Manbij offensive that Arab SDF forces will be managing Manbij once it falls into their hands.
If the SDF by some miracle takes Raqqa, you may be seeing more SDF Arabs than Kurds keeping the peace, at least until the SAA catches up. My money's on that place being under SDF and SAA control eventually if Raqqa is wrestled from IS.
>>30155646
Last map of Jaf Khan Touman offensive. I don't see them getting too much father tonight unless they take Khalasah. Heavy fighting still ongoing there.
from new ISIS Makhoul mountains release, thought this was a neat DIY camo'd HMG
>>30157924
armour doesn't matter when the crew and adjacent units are incompetent.
Jaish al Fateh advance in southern Aleppo.
As others have said previously, looking quite "professional" kit wise. 3 BMPs carrying infantry and 2 T-72s.
>>30158605
and I forgot the links durr.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF7j6B3ruHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McabrBm3ZbI
Also a T-55 along with the others. The combined armour assaults they do seem pretty effective versus the easy to route Shia paramilitaries.
>>30158621
Yes , I seen these. Check this out. JAN released southern Aleppo drone footage just now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d8ejMR7ViY
>>30158536
got a link for the vid please?
>>30158658
Fuck that's gorgeous.
When RTS games finally reach that level of graphics I don't think I'll ever leave my house
>>30158675
>>30158675
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw06n-5xF1kpcldNNFhGa2dsd28/view?pref=2&pli=1
Also, June 3rd release from ISIS from ongoing battle of Fallujah.
https://sendvid.com/ynlpax08
>>30158728
thanks
>>30158621
Their methodology is pretty simple. A little preparatory bombardment from a couple of howtizers, mortars, sometimes some Grads or Elephant rockets if it's within range
Then a very large SVBIED if it's a hardened position
Then usually 2x MBTs and 2-3x BMPs. Sometimes foot infantry accompanies this wave. A couple dozen men hit the targeted position in the first wave.
Then there is a follow-on wave in technicals.
They concentrate the attack on one position, usually one with few obstacles in the path of the vehicles and only one layer of earth berm as defense.
>>30158940
Oh wow, they shot that unarmed unsuspecting civilian dead! How brave and heroic!
>>30158789
Yeah. I'd like to see the SAA keep their mbt's off the front in reserve positions to react to this. Might even get some armor on armor gopro footage for once.
>>30159005
Thing is the whole reason Jaish al Fateh is trying to blitz south Aleppo again is the elite manpower of the SAA is elsewhere. That's how bled thin the actual weight carriers are. Left behind to defend southern Aleppo are rag tag militias, foreigners, and a motley crew of SAA. I'm sure some SAA unit with some actual competence is currently being spirited away from another front to try and combat that offense.
>>30158658
Well once this war is over Nusra production team will have no problem finding work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPniJsIEqfA
Video is a group of Shia militia captured and led away by Jaf.
Ruaf airstrikes over southern Aleppo ongoing right now
>>30138073
>"Standing in his undershirt on the patio of a house commandeered by his men, Colonel Thair Kana’an, of the federal police, claimed with grim pragmatism that the Iraqi forces were learning better how to take the fight to Isis. “We are losing more men, but it’s more effective,” he said."
>“In general they are much weaker now. I have been fighting them for two years. They used to conquer the land; now they can’t hold the area … And we also have changed; we don’t depend on armoured vehicles. We started using their techniques of infantrymen spreading through the high grass.”
Is he right? was western military doctrine and reliance on western tech the reason the Iraqi army was ineffective?
>>30158022
Lccsy is reporting Khalasah has just been taken and i'm done until the morning updates seriously. Jaf is still rolling on these villages in the middle of the night. What a crazy day.
>>30158987
that's a military aged man, American military murdered lots of suspicious looking civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan.
>>30159679
No, they are incompetent but since USAF bombs any ISIS they see Iraqis get to advance, if not for USAF, Baghdadi would be ruling from Baghdad.
>>30139709
Thanks for the link to the last thread R.Updater, been away for a bit.
Rock On Middle-East-General Trips, you guys do great work.
>Meanwhile British Special Forces is supposedly trolling ISIS in Sirte, Libya by blasting Bollywood music at them
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/what-music-british-special-forces-8090316
Shitty sources, but funny if true.
More Iraqi vehicles captured by ISIS in Fallujah
How the fuck do they abandon these things when they're barely damaged
>>30160906
>>30160915
>>30160931
>>30160906
>>30160915
>>30160931
>>30160941
So what, do they just slap an ISIS logo on it and send it back out the opposite way it came?
>>30149199
This. I really hope that's the plan.
>>30161019
Sometimes they fill them with explosives and politely return them
What's the current state of the SAA?
>>30150526
Nice meme
>>30156539
>Little London
>>30155015
Future terrorists for America to blow up!
>>30157186
Wew
>>30157451
These should be heli bait
>>30160646
This
Doesn't bode well for the future
>>30160906
>>30160915
>>30160931
>>30160941
Iraqis are honestly the worst fighters in this entire war.
>>30161561
40% competent
60% shit-tier militia
Better than ISIS and the rebels though. They have Russians to bomb shit.
>>30138936
is it 2005 again?
>>30161780
The Iraqi Army in 2014 was a ghost army, especially in N. Iraq.
They were shit fighters because they didn't fight. They just gave a percentage of their pay to their commanders and stayed home.
ISIS gets its gucci
>>30139324
Welcome to the Umma.
>>30160906
>>30160915
>>30160931
>>30160941
Iraqi soldiers pissing their pants and running away from ISIS
Where did we see this before
Baghdad has really changed its tune concerning sectarianism in its military operations, but the problem is that all the Sunni soldiers piss themselves and fuck off back home. They can't use Shi'a militias when retaking Sunni areas either. What are they going to do?
They copy the SDF and have purley tribal brigades, as that seems to motivate them when they're fighting for their family's honour
>>30160906
that officially is the least amount of bullet impacts ive seen on an iraqi humvee by far and they fucking abandoned it
>>30161801
it may be more of 30 70 now considering they only have man power to attack one front and that is it, which is worrying
>>30138073
Could anyone give me a very brief TLDR? I've been out of the loop (again) and need to catch up.
Swear to god I need to manage my time better, im either binging on middle east general research or fucking off to either travel or work.
>>30164257
when did you start your hiatus?
>>30164293
its been three to four days. Just had a lot of things to do recently that haven't helped me.
Last I checked ISF barely captured a few buildings in the south of Fallujah. It was mid way through the last middle east general thread I posted where i mixed up the YPG and the peshmerga.
It doesn't help that im heading out of country again tho, so i'll probably be out of the loop for even longer.
>>30164336
shit footage it didnt see your trip shit im drunk. ok ill do my best,
SAA - the aleppo op was a bluff and they only had the man power to move on raqqa and the shia militia holding aleppo are crumbling as al nusra and friends fuck shit up
kurds - theyre still fighting around the whole manjib thing. isis is hitting random points, noone knows it theyll try to hold manjib or pull some crazy shit
FSA- mare is still hot and heavy and isis is even conducting night attacks but the fsa seem to be holding for now
and the russians dropped some armor into deir ezzior thats what i remember
>>30164336
oh and fallujah is stalled and they are getting ambushed outside of the city proper kek the fucking iraqis are just bad man
>>30164257
What do you do for a living?
>>30160646
Alright how fucking dare you challenge me you worthless sack of piss and wind.
Get something straight in your thick skull, you don't know jack shite about the tactics of a modern military, or why the Iraqi military has bee unsuccessful/successful. My post, despite having a question mark, was a open ended statement, and did NOT need your cunt self to just fucking galavant in like the hot shit you think you are and counter my post with your ill informed credulous crap. Did your dad hit you too much as a kid is that why you've got a chip on your shoulder acting like a jumped up gym bunny You wouldn't dare speak to me like that in real life, Mr hardman, so how dare you do it over text? fucking coward post your address POST YOUR FUCKING ADDRESS FUCKING WORTHLESS CUNT
>>30164453
>>30164464
cheers
>>30164480
student/ (used to be) store supervisor.
Just been busy trying to get my life together all at once while trying to find a new job and attending strategic/political conferences.
>>30164566
well cheers to all the dead over there. ill be drinkin a beer for them next. take care of yourself out there footage
>>30158987
they were clearly enemy soldiers wearing civilian clothing to throw off their enemy
>hey Mahmoud let's wear bright green hoodies, they'll be looking for army fatigue wearing guys so they'll never suspect us!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBMiGXIK0tU
Holy fuck get hype
>>30165110
> road to fallujah
> road to a toll booth you have no money for so you turn around
>>30165128
>>30165128
What did you mean by this? Also who will direct the inevitable biopic about the liberation of fallujah?
>>30165110
>>30165128
im no jihadi fanboy in the least im pro assad for fucks sake but there is no way they are taking it with out fuck huge involvment from somewhere else, or oddly enough unless we let them starve it out, which we might because its not assads boys doing it
>>30165131
this > >>30165134
>>30165134
Do you seriously think Iraqis can mount a proper blockade of the city?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reefnxPHhos
>>30165527
They did it in 2014, after Fallujah had fallen.
Also I'm somewhat sure thats what they did when Ramadi fell and before they retook it.
https://twitter.com/VivaRevolt/status/739065204768661504
Pro rebel source tweeting a furry of YPG/SDF moving on villages east of Manbji and also some fighting. IS is mounting counter attacks. YPG/SDF is fending them off however their loses are starting to mount as they approach Manbji.
-IS has moved on Taym hill killing some SAA today as the IS net around Deir tightens (confirmed by Step not just IS)
Seeing Iraqi forces claim control over Saqawai near Fallujah today but I wouldn't get my hopes up. This is the 3rd time they have made this claim and it turned out to be false. Fallujah has been an embarrassment to Iraqi forces to the point where they outright lie to media everyday.
>>30164336
Just to add to this >>30164453 ;
The Tiger Forces are still stationed in Aleppo, even if nobody know what they plan to do.
The SDF/YPG Northern Raqqa operation, reported four or five days ago, was a bluff to diverge ISIS attention while the SDF crossed the the Euphrates River and advanced hard into Manbij.
The mix of SAA forces is still advancing quite without much problems, until now, towards Taqba/Raqqa. The armored reinforcements reported few days ago, as going to Aleppo, are indeed the ones with the SAA in Raqqa.
>>30164566
Well, if you are from Chile and want a stable job, you could join the Carabineros. Heard that Chile have a great tradition of student protests and riots, so, putting those riots down is probably a stable job.
Jokes aside, wish you the best of luck in your career life. You seems someone who could do well in a diplomatic career.
Southern Aleppo excitement has calmed down. There is only pictures of dead bodies and captured weapons now. Today rebels in Aleppo city somehow blew up a SAA HQ /ammo storage base at Tell Sheikh with rumored high death toll.
>>30164541
Is this a new copypasta?
Forgot to post this yesterday; a Rebel Malyutka strikes retreating pro gov forces in South Aleppo.
https://twitter.com/bm21_grad/status/738831753943601152
Backstory behind this video is these media guys are doing reports on the Jaf offensive at the new southern Aleppo frontlines like Khalasah and Humeira. The front still simmering with SAA/Shia forces shelling the area. One of them was almost killed by shrapnel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njSwEoIa6qw
>>30165731
calm down. Fallujah will fall, which is all that matters.
>>30165731
Alot of sources confirm the cap of Saqawai. Its for reall this time. Pictures are also being released
>>30166056
I am not against you posting these sources.
>>30166053
I'm perfectly calm, a lot calmer than I would be in southern Fallujah
>>30157273
wonder how they managed to kill the driver.
>>30164166
They have the most territory to guard, therefore at least a decent number of their competent forces have to be used to guard the borders.
Hence why campaigns are more difficult now than in October when they had less territory to guard.
>>30166056
>>30165731
>Saqawai
The town is called Saqlawia.
Also, dont get your hopes up, it was taken 4-5 times by the ISF/tribes/Hashd in 2014-15 and lost again soon after.
>>30166053
Optimism is dangerous
>>30165792
This use of ATGM for infantry units is honestly wtf.
>>30166110
Your right, I keep misspelling it and I don't believe any official Iraq army source about Fallujah either after all that shit they said earlier. The lines are blurred.
>>30165764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOaLfgFgZck
Video of what caused the explosion. They hit a MRLS with a ATGM and then....kabooooooom
>>30166085
I can't find the photo of the driver's body, anymore, but the only gun wound visible was shot in the middle of the forehead. He probably poked his head off of the driver hatch to have a better view while driving and someone got a lucky/good shot on him.
>>30166148
Its not neccesarily lying (though 90% of iraqi battlefield reports are pure bullshit), its just that these towns are easily lost again, as long as isis has some huge bases of operations nearby, like Fallujah in this case.
>>30166202
I found the photo of the said driver, or at least who the source says was the driver. Left side of the temple exploded by, almost certain, gunshot. The other wound marks are probably due when they dragged the body to the side of the road and, probabbly, had beaten the dead body a little.
>>30166238
On the battlefield report bullshit theme heavy fighting in Khalasah, southern Aleppo with another VBIED reported there. Pro rebel sources reported captured 3 times yesterday. It's a big village. I think they captured parts of it and got over optimistic. This ends up being the cause of most fake reports.
>>30166164
Massive rocket cook off here too. MRLSs are very flammable.
Last post to wrap up. IS claims all of Taym hill and Taym oil field in Deir Ezzor. The SAA has been cleared away from there ending every attempted SAA counter attack the last couple of months.
Viva revolt claims the YPG is going to attack IS from the Afrin side of their line during their ongoing Manbji offensive. Manbji is still going well for the most part although taking the city is going to be interesting. Manbji is still a major IS stronghold. They are not going out easy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKWGVrsQByg
Video is the full comp of IS fighting FSA by Azaz. At the 9:45 mark go pro footage of a FSA eating it. Some A-10 footage as well. Nothing special about the video, just posting it for the thread.
I will follow up on Fallujah later, especially Saqlawia.
>>30166964
This is the main IS video out of Fallujah today. A cluster fuck of Hummers and armored dozer getting shot up.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/s1uyh1D52gA
>>30165792
a few guys on twitter claim this was friendly fire incident. Faylaq al sham on JN. The emir was killed in this explosion
>>30167164
>the iraqi """""""""""""army""""""""""""""""""
how fucking embarassing
I was trying to wrap it up for the day so this post wouldn't come unless it was a big deal
https://twitter.com/DeirEzzor_SS/status/739138355254951936
Deir Ezzor SS claims General Zahreddine was injured by Mt Thardeh. Not sure of the extent of injuries.
>>30167444
>Yet again?
>>30167164
And those black vehicles are ISOF, too
none of them are turning the turrets around to cover their ass
>>30167164
Just dissolve Iraq already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PrhFP3gix0
>>30166116
nigga please. There is no possible scenario in which IS holds Fallujah. They are outumberd, outgunned and soon or later they will fall.
>>30168050
To be fair, they have held it since 2014.
>>30166164
>dat fucking catastrophic ammo explosion
slav engineering at its finest
>SAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuf7gFQqBQI
>>30168416
where 2 cop
>>30168416
Of course SAA would throw a heavy mechanized unit into assault into open desert against an enemy that has shown to have the ability to melt away into said desert to regroup and operates in small units when in desert area all the while SAA is loosing in an area where a heavy mechanized unit would do wonders against an enemy that is committed to fighting for static positions.
Looks like the kurds are getting btfo by sandchimps in aleppo rn
https://www.rt.com/news/345415-nusra-front-syria-aleppo/
And pootin is still too much of a pussy to send in ground troops proper
>>30168050
Kek like the other 4 times they tried to take it?
>Yfw you realized one single motorized waffen ss division brought in from back in time would prolly be more than enough to clear out daesh from the whole of syria + iraq for good
>>30169004
>Oy vey!!!
>>30169004
>implying one division could hold 70brazillian square miles of desert spanning two nations all full of angry goat fuckers who want to kill you and their neighbor with equal barbarity.
>>30168411
I don't think that it's so much slav engineering as it is the SAA's tendency to just pile up ammunition in the open.
>>30169004
>>implying they wouldn't get blown the fuck out
>>30160646
Actually it was the Iran sponsored Shi'a militias that stopped the advance of IS in Iraq.
Reports from a Kurd near the fronts is that SDF are 2km from Manbij in the South and 6km from Manbij in the North.
>>30168896
>Kurds losing Sheikh Maqsoud (their largest defeat during the whole war)
>somehow noone noticed the largest military defeat of the whole Battle of Aleppo but wily russian reporters
RussiaToday at its best.
>A 17-month U.S. effort to retrain and reunify Iraq's regular army has failed to create a large number of effective Iraqi combat units or limit the power of sectarian militias, according to current and former U.S. military and civilian officials.
>Concern about the shortcomings of the American attempt to strengthen the Iraqi military comes as Iraqi government forces and Shi’ite militias have launched an offensive to retake the city of Falluja from Islamic State. Aid groups fear the campaign could spark a humanitarian catastrophe, as an estimated 50,000 Sunni civilians remain trapped in the besieged town.
>But Garver acknowledged that the lion’s share of military offensives has been spearheaded by the Special Forces, and that two years of battle are taking a toll on Iraq’s elite soldiers.
>“The Government of Iraq has relied heavily on the Iraqi special operations forces and the potential for these forces being depleted into combat ineffectiveness is a real concern,” he said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-exclusive-idUSKCN0YP2DO
Why are the Iraqis such shit
>>30169921
>50,000 Sunni civilians remain trapped
Im not trying to be an edgyshitlord, but pre US battle of falluja the population was 250,000 people in the low estimates. Apparently there are non IS supporters there:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/05/residents-fleeing-fallujah-horrific-isil-rule-160531053836836.html
But at this point im inclined to believe that the only people left have got to be hardcore shia hatin sunni types and isis sympathizers.
>>30169004
>get BTFO'ed by sandniggers with an ATGM
>>30170136
So your plan to reconcile the shia and sunni is for the shia militias to massacre some tens of thousands of civilians and leveling the whole city without concern to any collateral damage?
That will surely teach the sunnis their lessons for relying on ISIS protection against the shia government abuses.
>>30169161
whats the context of that picture?
>>30167164
.... that whole column of armor got routed by what seems to be one dude with a .50 and probably 12 other guys taking pop shots. thats just sad
Nice map but who is this """""DAESH""""" you talk about?
I thought the ISLAMIC STATE where the one doing the executions, kidnappings and rapings in the region
>>30170755
theyre the same thing daesh is just another name for them, people think it insults them but they really dont care
>>30170767
Ah, so it insults them. Alright. I was just thinking, silly me, that using DAESH instead of ISLAMIC STATE was a way the liberal media used to avoid saying that the ISLAMIC State has anything to do with the Islamism.
rpg-29, Darayya
>>30170788
Man, I legit never thought of that. Mostly because I didn't think that anyone would fall for that bullshit, but that's got to work on a measurable percentage of people.
>>30170936
That's a big RPG
https://twitter.com/lopep416/status/739132399804657664 this is from aleppo and jesus that dude got wrecked
some kurd on twitter is claiming the kurds are going to open up another front and attack from efrin towards dabiq.
pic is shia militia in south aleppo after a vibed.
they claim 80 dead
thats all i could find for now
>>30171040
for you
ISIS in conflict in Northern Aleppo with FSA rebels.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8tWeC4974tkODg4d2dncXNzNW8/view
Damn that close combat cat and mouse between traffic at 9:30.
Apparently the civilian truck drivers were helping the ISIS guys out by
calling out FSA who were creeping through the traffic.
>>30171040
RPG-29 is quite a threat to tanks, even modern ones.
>>30171090
for some reason that is terrifying to watch, it's like a video game. How can these groups be so fucking retarded?
>>30171123
>like a video game
more like video games are like real life, but yeah I know. From playing so much arma damn does war ever feel like a game.
And it's hardly being retarded, its just the nature of close combat. Shit ends fast and it's scary to be in.
>>30171090
>RPG-29 is quite a threat to tanks, even modern ones.
Of course it is, just seems to large and heavy compared to Panzerfaust 3 for example
>>30171123
>In that situation in real life
>One wrong step and years and years of your life down the drain and it's over with no respawn
I already have a habit of consistently looking behind my back in FPS to make sure no one is sneaking up. I feel like I'd be the next Abu Hajaar in real combat.
>>30171123
It's the nature of close combat. It's a place where the line between life and death gets thinner than ever, between miliseconds.
>>30171065
If i understood the it correctly there were two SVBIEDs by Nusra, one as picture shows 80 claimed kills, second 36
https://twitter.com/NorthernStork/status/739150507873337349
>>30171217
im gonna just say youre right im really hung over so i didnt watch the video. its shia's getting massacred in explosions day all over twitter with all the atgm's too
>>30169834
they lost like 1 building complex just beyond the northern edge of Sheikh Maqsoud
not the whole neighborhood nigger
>>30170788
>arab media is using the arab acronym for that arab terror group
>IT HAS TO BE SOME LIBERAL PLOT
Fuck americans
>>30171206
>One wrong step and years and years of your life down the drain and it's over with no respawn
>>30170755
>>30170767
>>30170788
>>30170982
To clarify Daesh (more accurately Da'ish) is basically the the Arab language equivalent of the English ISIS/ISIL acronym. IS is known in Arabic as "al-Dawlah al-Islamīyah fī al-ʻIrāq wa-al-Shām".
"Da'ish" not officially used by Islamic State supporters because the a simple spelling like that could be twisted to insult the Islamic State, so they get really autistic about wanting Arabic speakers to referred to it in its full name. Naturally Arabic speakers who hate the Islamic State's guts use "Da'ish" anyway to spite them. That's how the mainstream news caught on about it being an "insult" without understanding the context.
>>30171347
he was responding to some dude saying the kurds were getting "BTFO in aleppo"
>>30166265
That's an amazingly massive but clean bullet hole. What bullet caliber do you reckon made a hole of that size?
>>30167164
>Iraqi military
>>30171516
meh heads explode sometimes it doesnt mean the round had to be huge
>>30171527
>Syrian Lanister
>>30168050
>literally ignoring the fact they've held it for 2+ years
>>30168896
Good job America!
