Thinking about buying my first bolt action, any recommendations? I would like a Mosin, but they're no longer $50.
Just buckle up with money and save for a Remington 700, there are like 25 options you can get, just check Remington's website. Another good choice is the Browning X-Bolt
>>30134684
Savage axis.
Remington 783 in .308. $360 out the door with a mounted scope.
American rimfire and supressor
Hours of cheap plinking fun.
>moist nugget
>Tikka T3/T3x
>R700
>Savage Axis II
>>30135339
These are all suitable.
+1 for the Tikka T3. Objectively better in quality control versus Remington 700 BDL ever since Cerebrus took Rem.
>>30135339
These. I recommend the Savage if you're on a budget. It's the best bang for the buck. Tikka if you've got a little more cash on hand.
>>30135310
Do not listen to this man.
>>30135128
>Remington
>post 2010
Buck up and buy a Savage Axis instead, or a good CZ. Remington QC is absolute garbage past 2010-2012
>>30135362
And why not?
>>30135368
Pretty much. I'd steer clear of Remington, and I own a 700 but it's an early 90's model. I love mine but I've heard/seen too many horror stories concerning them.
If I bought a new rifle right now it'd be the Tikka.
>>30135384
Because it's a giant turd.
>>30135401
How so?
Remington 700
Savage Axis
Tikka T3
Weatherby Vanguard
These are the ONLY acceptable options.
>>30135431
>>30135384
>>30135310
>Remington 783
>The BUDGET non-Rem 700
>Plastic parts everywhere
>1-screw rings (Absolutely not acceptable, ever.)
>Includes a scope which is trash (Any gun worth two shits isn't going to have some chink glass thrown in for the price.)
Cool paint job though. It's still an uninspired shit gun though.
>>30134684
Dollar for Dollar, I've seen time and time again that Savage is the brand to get. esp the one that comes with the accu-trigger and (i wanna say) leopold/nikon glass and 3/4MOA guarantee
>>30134684
Are you really short on cash and need a bolt gun today? Then get a Savage Axis.
Are you willing to save up a tiny bit and get something better?
Tikka T3
Savage Model 10
Used Rem 700 (Pre 2006)
>Scopes:
SWFA
Vortex
Leupold (if the price is right. Some of their stuff is more expensive than what others offer for the same performance.)
>>30135310
>$360 in the trash
>>30134684
I love my nagant
>>30135310
Reminds me of my friend who bought a Remshit 596 instead of investing like 30 more bucks for a proper 22.
>>30135368
Yeah I meant find a used one but get some knowledge on what kind that you wanted to get. The one I have is a 7mm rem mag but it's a mid 90s model
>>30135623
And no one cares. Anon specifically said that he/she didn't want a moSIN. GTFO
>>30134684
I'll throw my hat in for the Mossberg MVP's they are actually pretty nice once you work the kinks out of them.
Tikka t3 and never look back.
10 shots at 100, and as you can see I pulled one.
The center 5 measure .4 moa, the 6th on top bring it up to just under .7
Discount the 1 flyer from the pull and its a 9 shot 1 moa gun, or a half minute gun for 5 shots.
Lite barrels heat up, so thats where the dispersion started to open. But even at its worst it is a damn fine rifle.
>>30138173
Doh, phone rotated it 90 degrees.
When I say top, im referring to the far left I guess.
>>30134684
Anything in 6x55swede
Its pure bliss
>>30138235
6.5x55 in drunk and retarded right now
Heres another 10 shot.
Now I noticed after this group that I had a click of windage on the scope I have, must have bumped the windage knob while reaching for ammo. That helps explain a little why it started to group to the right, plus again a hot barrel.
3 in the center, 7 on the right.
Center 3 measure .570" so its pretty muh a .3moa 3 shot. The other 7 shots string 1.130 making them a .8moa string.
Tightest 5 on the right settle that number back down to around .4 moa.
For a 1k total investment (gun, scope, rings, bipod) thats really nice.
>>30134684
check your local gunstores if they have an older Remington 700 lying around
if you have to buy a new rifle:
Savage Axis
Ruger American
Marlin X7
those are the super budget ones
>>30138271
Damnit. Forgot to attach
>>30134684
Howa 1500 in 223 or 308
>>30134684
Any savage with a heavy barrel.
Really you should get an accurate .22 and learn how to shoot well before you drop money on a rifle that will just frustrate you.
>>30135310
good god, did you have your downy kid with cerebral palsy paint this?
>>30134684
I picked up a Mossberg patriot recently. Tons of caliber options and pretty inexpensive. Great gun to toy with though. Trigger on it is phenomenal.
>>30134684
Tikka T3x
Since you don't have a T3, the T3x addresses most of T3 owner complaints.
>steel recoil lugs now
>steel bolt shroud
>more foam in stock
>better recoil pad
>more screw holes for a rail
>bigger ejection port
It looks like it's maybe $50~ more than T3 in street prices.
Made on Sako tooling.
Rave reviews.
$500~ mid range bolt
Guaranteed 1 moa out of the box
Growing aftermarket support
Testimony on buttery smooth bolt and crisp trigger
Cabelas savage 12fv are $350 right now...
>>30134684
It really depends what you want it for. A ruger american/savage axis is perfectly fine for a plinker rifle, get a .308 if you already have an ar. If you want something to shoot further than any of your other guns then you need to consider exactly how far that is and how hard you want to hit when you get there. 7mm-08, 300 win mag, 6.5 creedmoor, etc, are all great for that kind of application. Spend $2000 at bare minimum and get good glass and a well bedded gun. I can talk a little more if that's your groove.
>>30135310
Consider suicide
>>30140815
not that guy above but thanks for the info. ive been looking at tikka t3s, i didnt know these were some of the issues
>>30134684
I bought a mauser m48, im picking it up tomorrow. It looks gorgeous
>>30141899
they're not really issues, the aluminum lugs were a problem for "some" people who had them break, but most people didn't have that problem.
But like most firearms with some very rare but alarming issues, people like to have a peace of mind and just upgrade those parts.
The T3X is pretty much customer feedback edition that they're probably going to be running from now on.
It's still new, so you might not find it so widely available yet.
Im having a hard time finding a bolt action that suits my needs. Heres my list..
Under 1500$
Ability to be fired continuous (think "battle ready" bolt action)
30-06 minimum
Not military surplus (trying to retire a mauser)
Accurate enough to hammer human sized steel targets @ 1km
Deer hunting rifles are not built robust enough and their pencil dick barrels get hot enough to melt their plastic shit stocks in 20 rounds (thanks ruger) so what are my options? Savages with heavy barrels? Massaged over older 700s?
Are my expectations overdoing it for my budget?
>>30142964
hog hunter looks pretty good, 20 inch barrel, meant to be decently accurate, they come in 30-06 and .308 with a decently thick barrel.
Apparently the short barrel helps reduce amount of spread you get from the barrel heating up, which sounds pretty attractive. Cheap too. I'm leaning towards one as my first 308
![Previewing-Lithgow-CrossOver-LA102-02[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9Thze23.jpg "Previewing-Lithgow-CrossOver-LA102-02[1].jpg")
Lithgow LA102 Crossfire.
100% Aussie made.
>>30143960
>mfw it's just wombat feces because aussies don't know shit about guns
>>30144170
>yfw it's actually god-tier
>>30135128
No, get the idea of Remington out of your head right now. Remingtons are straight up hot garbage shit and should not even be considered with how poorly they are made. Literally the only reason to buy a Remington 700 is because of their large amounts of after market parts if you intend on keeping the receiver and throwing everything else in the bin to build your own custom rifle
Howa 1500 is a similar design to the r700. Only they put much more effort into the quality of their product, i reccomend them, or a tikka t3
>>30135505
>only acceptable options
>not including the howa 1500 which is the same thing as the vanguard
>including remingtons which are horrible piles of shit
>>30137724
Commifornia here, first gun is a 10/22 but think about getting mossberg mvp in .223/5.56
They relatively cheap?
The mags seem attractive. I mean AR mags ain't going anywhere
>>30142964
>1 km
You're gunna want something like a 7mm-08 or 7mm mag then. Tikka t3x comes in 7mm-08 and it's awesome. Don't cheap out on the glass, you kike, and you'll be able to shoot well past 1000 meters.
>>30138235
I'm seconding this. Fiancé and my parents teamed up to get me a Swedish Mauser for Christmas, that thing is now my favorite gun. Everything about shooting it is smooth.
I have a Savage 111 Long Range Hunter in .300 win mag. I'm trying to sell it to get a .308, and I'm leaning towards a R700 or something similar. I want a .308 because it's much more economical than a .300, and there aren't any real long ranges around my area. I'd like a R700, because I like the thought of saving up and getting an AICS stock for it. Is cashing out on the .300 a good idea?
>>30142875
Magnum calibers with aluminum recoil lugs dont work too well. After time it stress cracks the aluminum. Dont know of anyone having problems with anything smaller.
>>30142964
Tikka varmint or ctr.
Both have heavier barrels.
>>30145258
Yes it's worth it 10 fold .300wm is retarded to get into if you don't reload and hunt elk.
>>30143903
Having a shorter barrel has little to no effect on heat stringing, it's the thickness of the barrel that makes the difference.
Shorter barrels are usually thicker.
>>30134684
obviously just buy a McMillan .338 and make it exactly like the one Chris Kyle had.
>>30144248
Where did you come up with this bullshit
>>30144248
How about a 721/722? I would argue that they are a better made action because the machinery wasn't worn out when they were built, and they are basically the same action as a 700. They will fit in a 700 stock. If OP is going to restock/rebarrel anyway it could be a decent choice.
>>30146385
Remington 40 years ago =\= Cerburus/freedom group Remington.
If you like extra expense and headache just to have an antique action then go right ahead.
>>30146099
>he thinks Remington is still good
>>30146921
No extra expense if, as I said, OP is going to rebarrel and restock anyway. There is only one possible headache in that case as well. And they are as good as or better than any 700 out there. I've shot enough 1000 yards with both to be able to say that, my friend. But then again, I'm probably a Fudd.
>>30145758
Shorter barrel have less vibratory whip, and become become stiffer as the weight is not further away from the rifle.
So you are partially correct. It doesnt affect HEAT dissipation, but does increase rigidity.
>>30134684
Just gonna throw in a plug for the Ruger M77 here...
Best value on a true Mauser-style action you are likely to find. Of course, there's nothing really "wrong" with a push-feed, but personally I've got a fetish for Mauser descendants.
I got mine for 500 out the door.
>>30135857
Reading comprehension nigger. Try it. OP said he "WOULD like a mosin BUT they are no longer $50".
Read the OP again...better yet lrn2read&comprehend
I just bought a Ruger GSR.
Did I dun goofd?
>>30150503
depends on price
>>30150820
$900
Higher price, but in cuckifornia, it's expected
>>30151104
Yikes.
>>30150503
after mags that's $1000
fucking cali
>>30143903
I dig mine
I'm looking at a first bolt action as well and stuck between the tikka ctr and the savage 10 fcp. Both in 308. Is the tikka worth the extra 300 bucks?
>>30151586
Imo yes.
>>30134684
buy a Mauser
>>30151232
how is it for accuracy? I figure the gun will be capable of better accuracy than I can delivery to it for a long time but from what I've read it's good enough for hunting.
What's the longest range you shoot it at? They are darn sexy.
Different kettle of fish, but those CZ 527's in 7.62x39 look pretty awesome. There's a serbian Zastava rifle quite similar for a lot cheaper, and apparently Howa are bringing out a 1500 chambered in the intermediate russian round. Perhaps similar concept to these .300 Blackout bolt actions or like a worse version of the 30-30?
>>30152134
Mate has a CTR the thing is insanely accurate, easy as fuck to shoot and looks amazing.
First time I shot it was my first time shooting in 8 years, by the end of the day I was making 1.5' groups at 200 yards.
>>30146099
From many many reports on their terrible quality control. And seeing in person some issues like crooked barrels, mounting holes drilled in at angles, bolts too tight to close, bolts incredibly sloppy, horrible gritty actions and triggers etc.
Why buy one when you can get so many other rifles which are cheaper and perfect out of the box. The only ones buying remington 700's are people intending on building on the action, new shooters who know the remington name and assume they must be good without actually knowing anything. Or dumbass fudds with retarded brand loyalty
>>30144170
>1m Australians who can only own bolt actions
Yeah I bet theyre real uneducated
Its why half the rifles on the ranges here are Tikka T3's
Does anybody have the picture comparing Remington and tikka rifling from factory?
>>30134684
Cheapest option for bolt action taking AR mag? I know theirs kit for Remington and savage.
mosins are worth the $150 you can sometimes still find them for, and finn nuggets are worth the $400 they go for.
mausers are a good second option.
>>30138173
>>30138281
>6MOA
then
>4MOA
https://www.birchwoodcasey.com/Targets/Shoot-N-C/Shoot%E2%80%A2N%E2%80%A2C%C2%AE-3-Bull-s-eye-Target.aspx
Sorry mate.
Im looking for nice 22LR bolt action rifle aswell. nothing overly expensive, so no Anschütz or Walther match rifles.
Bonus points for threaded barrel and bonus if you can disassemble it like a 10/22 takedown
>>30154067
Mossberg mvp does this out of the box. Check them out.
>>30154136
Not sure of your location or price range but every Cz .22 bolt has been quite nice. Just my 2 cents
>>30154086
I also have those targets. Those rings are nothing near 1 inch apart, so where are you getting 4 and 6 inch extreme spreads? Also, why are you even bothering to use extreme spread as any statistical measure of accuracy?
>>30135310
Sorry I love Remington, and I love my Remington 700..
But I agree with all the hate on this model or the 770 for that matter. Get a Remington 700 ADL if you have to or a BDL, but under no circumstances get a Remington 783.
Got my Remington 700 ADL Varmint .308 from Dicks Sporting goods,
> $499
> on sale for $449 with $50 mail in rebate.
>>30154061
where the fuck can you get those chassis', google can't find anything on them and I want one on my Howa
>>30154648
It's not that one but the lss mdt chassis fits a howa. The flat bottom on the receiver means that you have to use their mags though
>>30154648
Aus Tech Arms
To be released at shot expo in sydney later this month
What does /k/ think of the river American ranch rifle in 5.56? It has pretty much all the things I am looking for, but I don't know if it is any good. Is the American's action any good?
>>30154787
>>30154833
I'm assuming autocorrect meant ruger. Ruger Americans are well regarded budget actions, roughly similar to the savage axis.
>>30154086
Jesus christ man.
The whole target is 3 inches wide. Not 30.
.720" -.308" = .412 = .412moa.
You dont cloverleaf 5 rounds and call it 6 moa.
I dont do cheap glass, kek.
