I'm going to a LGS to buy a CCW today. What would you buy? I've finger-fucked everything at this point and it all feels good so I can't make a decision. pic related is the budget.
>>30134455
Shield
btw will take pictures when I get back. I'll leave within a couple of hours after I get some recommendations. I'm basically buying what /k/ tells me.
>>30134496
Seconding the Shield, spend the rest on a box or two of good defensive ammo and some for pinking.
Third for shield, but I would also reccomend you try out the glock 43. If you're willing to wait another week for your next payczech, you should seriously look into the cz rami.
>>30134455
P64 or Makarov
i cc a springfield xds 4.0 9mm
sometimes i cc my glock 42
works for me
>>30134496
IN 45 ACP
>>30134496
>>30134779
>>30134817
>shield
lol there really are shills for the shield here. I thought that anon in the other thread was joking.
>>30134826
Isn't the P64 a POS? It's just a shitty Makarov and a shitty PPK put together.
Stop being poor and get a Sig 938
>>30134455
Please tell me that's not all your money your spending?
>>30135372
The shield is a good cc gun. Light, durable, reasonably accurate, good warranty, good aftermarket, and fun to shoot.
People liking something nice isn't shilling.
>>30135461
>SIG
he probably wants a good gun so i don't see why you'd rec this
sig shills, I swear.
>>30135507
I'm extremely poor and have been saving for a handgun for nine months.
>>30135528
can you afford the ammo to put into the gun ?
>>30135461
>Premium Shit
No thanks, I'm don't buy into marketing and gimicky finishes, I'll get a gun that actually works.
>>30135539
...that's sort part of the budget right now. I have enough to pay for ammunition each month, though.
>>30134455
Glock43 with the "1" stamped inside the magwell and "2" on the mags
>>30135563
>with the "1" stamped inside the magwell and "2" on the mags
why is this?
>>30135577
"1" is the updated (newest design) frame, "2" is the latest mags
There is no other reasonable option, beside you like how the other gun looks.
>>30135510
Apparently it is. Probably just a buttflustered glock ganboi
>>30135528
Well done op. If you didn't put yourself out financially and responsibly saved money in order to secure your rights I think you did great.
Go buy a shield.
>>30135563
that a boy
>>30135577
cant find the original pic, but here, check out this over9000 hours in paint.
>>30134496
>>30134779
>>30134817
>>30135510
>>30135512
>>30135548
>>30135616
>>30135627
FUCKING SHIELD SHILLS GOD DAMMIT YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS ARE IN EVERY RECCOMENDATION YTHREAD FUC KYOU
>>30135548
I get being a poorfag, I'm not making it rain over here myself, but not everything is arbitrarily expensive.
Sometimes, things cost more money because they are actually much better than the cheaper alternatives.
Passing it all off as marketing tricks is ignorant.
>>30135677
but they literally aren't good guns. Those micro 1911's all suck and have problems.
>>30134455
Glock 43. The single stack 9mm is simply the best for all day, every day, no exceptions carry. I like the xds, but the G43 is lighter and just looks better to me.
>>30134817
Rami is badass, I would love to get one someday.
>>30135563
>>30135595
>>30135647
Why take this over a Shield, though? What's better about it?
>>30135718
But shield is the better gun in multiple areas...
Capacity
Grip angle
Felt recoil
Price
Proven reliability
>>30135718
>Rami is badass, I would love to get one someday.
you can today, just go ask your metalyard for a piece of 1"x4"x"3 steel bar stock. Will feel and function just the same, except it may actually stop your attacker
>>30134455
Tristar T-100 or C-100.
>>30135725
Shield all the way, its my EDC
>>30135760
Turkshit need not apply
>>30135651
Gaston pls
ITT GLOCK 43 fags and SHIELD fags fight to the death
What is so fucking great about the Shield? I really don't get it. There are so many of these polymer wonders that they all seem the same. I just don't know what in the Shield strikes everyone to like it so much.
Get the M&P Shield. Its my CCW and I love it. I have put 700 rounds through it and it hasn't malfunctioned once. Trust it with my life.
>>30135746
You can get +2 base plates for the Glock, but I like the compactness of the flush mag. 7 rounds is fine for me. Also it's lighter, and isn't made by S&W (I still haven't forgiven them for the hillary hole)
>all of these faggot ass shield shills
daily reminder that the LC9S is a better gun in every way.
>>30135815
It's simple, reliable, made in America (belive it or not lots of customers still think that glocks, fns etc are still manufactured in other countries) and cheaper than most well known alternatives.
T. Gun store worker
>>30135853
lol, whatever poorfag. LC9S is a piece of shit, ugly as fuck and that trigger pull makes me want to cry. I used to carry one till I upgraded to a shield.
this fat non-white manlet explains why the Shield sucks dick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2xuspv0ZlE
shield fags BTFO
>>30135889
they're the same price faggot
Hopefully I don't derail the thread too badly, but I have a question.
Something happened this past semester at college and I want to start carrying IWB on the daily to school. Probably appendix carry. I have zero carry experience, and would like a few recommendations on a good leather gun belt that just looks like a casual everyday belt. I would also love it if anyone knows of a better Makarov holster than the Outbags one that I currently have as it rides much too high.
I will eventually pick up a Sig P938.
>>30136024
http://agcustomgunleather.com/
>>30136024
What the fuck are you posting your gay irrelevant shit in my thread for, exactly? Are you incapable of making your own shitty thread?
>>30136024
I carry my Mak with a sticky holster, I use a nylon reinforced belt from Amazon.
Sold my P938, it was too small to shoot and too small to carry. They're neat guns, but more of a problem looking for a solution, unless you have issues concealing compacts.
>>30136065
Your thread has already been answered, though. Get a Glock 43 1st choice, S&W or XD-S 2nd choice
>>30135651
>lots of people like and use Shield for CC
>glockfuckbois get assblasted because they can't compete in the subcompact market
>>30135979
I fully expect s&w has a higher body count than the turkroach dolphin company.
>>30136093
That's not at all how the thread has gone glockboy. Substantially more shield recommendations.
>>30136093
>Cock 43
Shut the fuck up you dumb glock shill faggot. OP is getting a fucking Shield, right OP?
>>30136089
Bro if you cc that you need some dick grips. They make it so much thinner. I've had both.
>OP is on limited budget
>Glock 43 $450-500+++
>Shield $300-450
>only one of these is proven to be reliable enough for CC
Hmm I wonder which is the better choice...
>>30134496
This. Great little gun, accurate and if you can't handle the trigger there is decent drop-ins for it.
>>30136203
But muh Perfection©® REEEEEE
>>30136089
Thanks, I have a 31" waistline so I need something pretty small. The grip on my Makarov seems to jut out too much no matter where I position it.
>>30136059
Thanks, I'm going to give these guys a serious look.
>>30134496
this. newer ones don't need any trigger work either.
all of the shield posts are from one guy. he shills it because it's his only gun.
>>30135897
>one in the chamber with safety off
Alright let's forget that I'm a pussy that usually likes filters on my cigarettes.
It really can't be rocket science to take that safety off can it?
>>30136637
Shield safety is almost inoperable. Under stress, you're out of luck.
>>30136235
I dropped from a 34 to 28. Still no problems CCing my Mak or CZ75 compact.
>>30136024
check out lucky gunner on YouTube he gives good cc tips
>>30136671
28" waistline? Good god man. I guess I need to keep working on it.
>>30136637
>>30136655
They literally don't even make it with the safety anymore because it's the only thing anyone bitched about with the Shield. The new one is the same thing without the stupid safety.
>>30136655
They make them without one, you know that right?
>>30136528
glock/cz fanboy booty blasted that the Shield is the #1 selling handgun for concealed carry.
>>30136815
but it isn't.
>>30136089
fuck maks what a fucking meme
>>30134455
Glock 43 or 26
>>30135679
Confirmed not owning a p238. 3800 and counting with 0 failures.
>>30140586
t. glock shill
>>30140881
t. sig shill
>>30136815
t. shield shill
Shield
Shield with apex trigger.
LCPS Pro.
Glock 19.
LCR.
LCP.
>>30144582
LCP is garbage. Glock 19 is too big. I've never even head of the LCPS Pro. The LCR is fine, I'm sure.
The Shield is the only good choice you posted.
Shield. Single stack glocks suck.
ITT Smith & Wesson shills holy fucking shit this is so obvious
>>30145012
I used to be a glockboi but I am proud to announce that I am now a #Shieldmissile
>>30145012
Vast majority of the thread recommends the superior option.
Must be shills. Smith must spend a lot of money on them to sell a $400 gun...
>>30145129
They are recommending it over and over again without explaining why it even is the superior option. This is how you spot shills.
Alternative opinion coming through, try a Steyr. Well-built, good ergo, should be just inside your budget.
>>30134455
I would into Springfield XDS as a CCW. If only the M9 wasn't so big..
>>30145225
>brazil
no
>>30145151
Pretty sure the traits have been pointed out too...
>>30145012
I have an M&P Shield 9mm by Smith and Wesson.
It's a very soft shooting gun for its size which can't be said about other single stack 9mm's.
A good amount of aftermarket like Trijicon HD sights, Talon grips, Apex Tactical and Magguts springs.
Buy a Shield by Smith and Wesson today!
Glock 43 or M&P Shield for thinnest guns
If that's still too much, Ruger LCP Custom (for actual sights/trigger)
>>30145763
>This is what glawkfags actually think is happening
>>30134455
Walther PPS
>>30134455
Are you spending all of your money in a gun? If you are, that financially irresponsible. Either way, Glock 19. Trust me.
>>30145796
I've wanted this for a long time anon.
>>30145783
But it's true. I am a Smith and Wesson Customer Service Representative!
But I'll be quite frank. The only gripes I have with the Smith and Wesson M&P Shield is that it's quite a bother to put a magazine into it when it is closed, requiring extra effort when conducting "tac-reloads" and the slide stop cannot function as a slide release.
The Glock 43 to my knowledge has the ability to close home when utilizing the slide release.
But don't tell my boss I said this! I could get fired!
>>30145822
The desperation.
>>30134826
>>30135760
>>30136089
People recommending actual shit.
>>30145829
What are you talking about? I've listed two negatives about the Shield.
OP (Original Poster) has a budget of $490. The Shield is reasonably cheaper at $350 (or $320 in some cases) with the rest of the money able to go to things like a gunbelt, holster and hollowpoint ammunition.
A Glock 43 would be at $450 at a minimum new and you don't even get metal sights!
I was on a lunch break earlier and I swung by the mall to buy some socks and looked at the Glock 43 over at Cabellas and boy, I might buy one cause it sure felt nice!
But don't tell my boss I said this! I could get fired!
>>30136637
The safety on a shield is smaller than the size of your average person's pinky nail. You're not going to be able to operate that miniscule thing under stressful conditions.
>>30145858
>The Shield is reasonably cheaper at $350 (or $320 in some cases)
The new one without the shitty ass annoying fucking safety is actually $419. OP wouldn't actually have a load afterwards after the tax. He could buy like 100rds of 9mm and that's it.
A shield will do everything a Glock 43 will do. It's also less expensive, carries an extra round stock, comes with an extended magazine, and has better sights.
The only "drawback" is a manual safety. Either get the model without one, train to use it. Also magazines are hard to seat on a closed bolt. Train around it.
>>30145945
the new one come with 3 mags and no safety
>>30135217
I'm buying one cuz KNOCKDOWN POWA!
>>30145957
That would seal the deal for me.
>not buying the .45 auto Shield that just came out
lol 9mm
Anyone know why crimson caravan is giving a password prompt?
>>30145899
http://palmettostatearmory.com/smith-wesson-m-p-shield-9mm-w-o-thumb-safety-10035.html
>>30142997
t. Noguns
really hoping OP returns to tell us who won.
>fingers crossed for glock
>>30145645
Im...im american tho?
>>30145945
>>30145899
>>30145863
Honest? I don't find the safety to be a huge issue. It's more important to be able to disengage a safety than vice versa. All you need to do for the shield is a quick thumb slide.
>>30145822
>>30145829
>>30145858
this can be a real concern and is what led to lots of older generation handguns being loaded down from max capacity
>>30134455
Shield or Makarov (in 9x18 not those disgusting 380 ones)
I dunno if the shield suffers from the same issues as the full size m&p. but the trigger is crap. part of why i chose a m&p over perfection is steal barrel, and slide
>>30150527
I'm going to need that vid
You can't afford to buy firearms if all you have is $500 bucks in your bank account.
>>30150527
>i have a video somewhere where a guy buttfucks a male wolf and it just stands there panting and loving it
I require proofs
>>30134455
I hope you're planning on using that gun to embark on a career of crime. Because otherwise, that's not a very smart investment.
>>30150632
If you only have $490, you don't have anything worth protecting. Even a violent death would be a step up.
>>30150592
what does this have to do witht his thread
>>30150592
Shibe always remind me of Korean Nureongi.
I wonder if they're closely related breeds.
Uber to welfare office, or buy Oil ASAP
>>30150821
>Tiffany and Co.
Better have been for the engravings
>>30145945
>>30149331
>Just train around it
Failure to disengage the safety under stress is one of the highest reported reasons for failing a course of fire. Better to buy a gun without one, and give Murphy less room to fuck you.
>>30147872
This would make its point better if it was just some normal chick on the right instead of a model, because that sure as shit ain't a model on the left.
>>30150563
he could buy something at like $300 max IMO. he won't have enough for cleaning supplies, ammunition, and holster otherwise.
This may not make sense now, but OP, buy a Taurus TCP. They go for $175 new are are one of the better pocket .380's. you can't afford anything that is really good without not buying anything else, and what would be the point of that?
I would say makarov, but the 9x18 isn't that great compared to even a .380.
>>30153183
Look up ballistics for 9x18 vs 380
There's actually quite a large difference. I love 9x18 because it's such a low recoil round
>>30150527
> i have a video somewhere where a guy buttfucks a male wolf and it just stands there panting and loving it
we're going to need this video, for science purposes
>>30150962
Causation/Correlation/ Assume OP is a massive retard
so he's probably right, for the wrong reasons
>>30134817
The Rami's lack of a proper decocker (on the decocker model) turns me off.
It doesn't make any sense imo to just lower it to half cock. Why would you want to carry at half cock where the hammer can get snagged on shit
>>30134455
Glock 43 or Shield
Shield has safety so there's that if you like to carry cocked and locked.
I feel like the Shield's ergos are much better, it fits nicer in the hand and as a result doesn't feel as snappy as the Glock when shooting.
Both have pretty shitty triggers from the factory imo, though the Shield's is a little less terrible.
Shield's flush fit magazine holds more vs the Glock's, but Shield's 8 round magazine is retardedly fuckhuge. Seriously does it really need to be that much bigger for 1 extra round? Glock has some nice baseplates which expand capacity while still staying smaller than the Shield's 8 round magazine.
Both have a fuckhuge aftermarket so any issue you may have is fixable I guess. From the factory overall I'd say Shield has the advantage, while keeping a lower price tag so you can blow your extra bucks on correcting its flaws. The Glock I would personally want to put a little more money into before I'd feel comfortable CCing it. In the end they're both great guns and you can't go wrong either way.
ITT Glock and Smith & Wesson teamed up to shill the Cock 43 and the Short & Weak Shield
What about the Beretta nano? I personally prefer Beretta guns over most other brands.
>>30154631
Me too anon but the nano from what I hear isn't great. Neither is the subcompact px4.
I hear the compact px4 is pretty awesome though.
