Let me explain, I'm a newbie gun owner. Just bought a wasr-10 AK. I love it. I've shot guns all my life but never owned one until recently.
Sometimes though I get an uncomfortable anxiety feeling about it. The thought that there is a weapon that I could kill myself with a couple of feet away from me in my room. That at any moment if I wanted to I could blow my brains out.
This kind of freaks me out and makes me feel uncomfortable. Does anyone else feel this way? Or have you felt this way?
My wasr is awesome by the way I have zero complaints about it. It has exceeded my expectations for it.
I've tried to kill myself more than once, and I have an AR.
Never worried about it even once.
>>30130415
Serious Question: Do you contemplate crashing your car into a tree at 65 mph? if yes then you should seek help for depression if not than you are being a baby for no reason.
>>30130415
I had depression several years ago and I felt the exact opposite during that time. The image of my brain being splattered onto the wall in a violent cascade was actually gruesome enough to deter me. I was never afraid of suicide before I owned guns.
>>30130446
I'm glad you are ok.
I've never been suicidal, I've had some mild depression.
My father has pretty strong depression and my sister has attempted suicide. They both have substance abuse problems though.
I dunno it doesn't bother me a ton but it's just a weird thought I get sometimes about the gun.
>>30130480
That's a good analogy I guess. Makes me feel a bit better. I've never been suicidal, just kinda bothers me that I've got a means to my own demise sitting within arms length of me, even as I write this post.
I guess it's just something I'll have to get used to.
>>30130415
tl;dr no owning guns hasn't made me feel uncomfortable.
>>30130415
I've been deeply depressed for maybe five or six years now
every time I get that close I always think about pills or a rope, never the rifles or revolver
I think it has to do with how happy they make me if that makes sense, it almost never crosses my mind to use them because they're such a positive thing to me. Also cause I know I'd just be another gubber statistic.
>>30130534
it's like that feeling you get in a car when the windows down and you want to throw your phone out, or when you're next to a ledge and you feel the need to jump (?)
>>30130553
Do you take medication? I think I'm mildly depressed.
I don't feel sad really but feel low energy, sort of bored with the world and tired a lot. Nothing really crippling though.
>>30130415
>Sometimes though I get an uncomfortable anxiety feeling about it. The thought that there is a weapon that I could kill myself with a couple of feet away from me in my room. That at any moment if I wanted to I could blow my brains out.
>This kind of freaks me out and makes me feel uncomfortable. Does anyone else feel this way? Or have you felt this way?
Never felt that way. Maybe you could focus on the fact that despite there being a powerful weapon next to you, it is your will which has kept it safe and properly used all this time, and which ensures it is going to continue to be used responsibly.
>>30130568
Yes that impulsive feeling. I've felt it, but I don't act on those things.
>>30130582
I don't take meds, and yeah that sounds like depression
it depends on how long you've felt the way you have, once it's become weeks or months, that's depression
>>30130486
>>30130553
>>30130415
I used to have that slight feeling when I looked at knives. But then I realized that there really is no physical deterrant to suicide, I mean people starve themselves to death deliberately.
You just have to accept that your life really is in your hands. Even though it is true that you could make some seriously permanent choices with serious consequences of course.
I think the French came up with a phrase that captured the feeling well.
L'appel du Vide: or in english as the "Call of the Void"
http://travelingliz.com/2011/02/lappelle-d-vide.html
>>30130595
nobody ever really does, you'll get used to the things being around, they stay special to you don't worry, but you do get used to them
i like where k is headed. now there a tendency to discuss our emotional problems rather than say "suck it up". only half a year ago i made a similar thread that died pretty soon.
>>30130588
>it is your will which has kept it safe and properly used all this time
Yes this is good anon, thank you.
>>30130615
It's an extremely mild feeling that comes and goes. Nothing enough for me ask a psychiatrist about, though I am on medication for anxiety (which also treats depression).
>>30130621
>Call of the Void
That's a cool phrase, and does seem to describe the feeling I've had. Thank you.
>>30130534
>>30130568
Intrusive thoughts. I stopped seriously spending time on suicidal ideation when I became hazgunz, largely because it felt like I couldn't indulge the luxury--like I had to shape up or else I might actually bump myself off. So, data point.
>>30130553
>I think it has to do with how happy they make me if that makes sense, it almost never crosses my mind to use them because they're such a positive thing to me. Also cause I know I'd just be another gubber statistic.
This too.
>>30130415
Well, Nietzsche wrote something to the effect of "the the knowledge that he may commit suicide allows every troubled mind to sleep soundly." Going from memory here. Not that I'm suicidal, but I consider it a valid option in certain scenarios. I would go for an exit bag though, and it's fucking retarded to worry that you will uncontrollably off yourself just because the means are available. You are like the libtards that think the only thing preventing anyone from going on a murderous rampage is lack of firearms, and that any gun owner is one trigger word away from Lanza mode. Actually you are probably one of those shills now that I think about it.
I do get nervous around sharp blades when I am naked, but that's probably for the best.
>>30130679
>I stopped seriously spending time on suicidal ideation when I became hazgunz
Through some sort of concerted mental effort? How do you avoid thinking about something?
The only anxiety I ever have is because I live in CA, and therefore there's a million fucking laws that nobody can possibly keep track of so there's always some niggling question of if you're breaking some fucking law you've never even heard of they just passed last week in some closed door session.
Only the anxiety of my house being robbed while I'm away & my guns stolen along with my finger being cut or pulled off when loading shotgun shells.
>>30130553
not to mention, the eafter effects on your friends and family (grief aside).
>my so-and-so killed himself with a gun
>guns are bad, mmmkay?
>>30130722
I was looking at the CA-compliant guns when I was researching my WASR. Don't you have to have a welded-in 10-rnd magazine in your "assault rifles"?
>>30130744
It's really kind of a selfish thing if you've ever known someone who suicides. The grief of the family and friends is terrible.
>>30130746
No. You currently need a bullet button or to be 'featureless', which is no muzzle brake, no pistol grip, no adjustable stock.
>>30130746
No. We have a small metal piece that makes you have to put a smaller then finger tool into the slot to push the magazine release. These bullet buttons can be removed by an allen wrench in about 1 minute. Also if you have a featureless AK/AR-15 you currently do not need the button.
OP the propaganda has gotten to you.
Yeah I'm the same way op. Except for bleach, and prescription pills, and car exhaust. Sometimes when I'm cleaning the bathroom I freak myself out. It's like man if I mixed this with amonia I could totally reenact ww1 trench conditions. Or these pills are so easy to swollow I wonder if I could do all of them at once. Don't even get me started on warming up my car.
>>30130415
I'm 19. I own 11 guns, most of which are illegal in some parts of the country. I also own two cars and have parents who support me and my lifestyle choices. While I did work for everything and paid for it myself, I can't help but feel privileged. Whatever money I make I am free to spend on or keep for myself. So many Eurocucks and Australians would kill to own the guns I have. I've never really experienced any hardships in life. It makes me uncomfortable thinking about how many people would kill to have my life.
>>30130717
Something like that. Learning to recognize the train of thought and head it off at the depot. Cognitive behavioral therapy workbooks help.
It may have been something to do with the seasons changing, too.
>>30130816
That's what the guns are for
for killing the people trying to kill you for your stuff
>>30130786
>>30130782
That's a shame. It sounds like it's not even useful legislation, just mild deterrent. What an embarrassment. I feel for you californiacucks.
>>30130582
How's your diet? Do you exercise? Whenever I neglect to work out or have too much sugar for awhile I feel disconnected and like shit.
>>30130800
I actually read about this the other day for shits and giggles and it looks like it would be difficult to actually kill you, but would just fuck your throat and lungs up bad.
>>30130858
It's retarded as hell. The San Bernadino terrorists bought their AR's illegally, did not have a BB installed (of course) and the narrative by the media was that they had 'modified' their rifles with 'bullet buttons' to make changing magazines faster. Which is the exact opposite of what happened.
>>30130867
>How's your diet? Do you exercise?
Both shit for the last 3-4 weeks. I think thats actually an excellent point.
I was full on /fit/ mode a month ago and I haven't been working out because I moved.
I'm glad you brought that up.
>>30130816
dont think about it like that, nothing you can do to change the location and status other people were born into. dont feel bad about it, feel proud that youve worked to accomplish all the material items you have.
>>30130888
Yeah that could be it. For me that's usually a good motivator. I've been losing weight, but when I catch myself feeling shitty Ive been finding that it's because I've fallen off the wagon bad. Usually after a few days or a week or so of sticking to it my mood changes back to normal.
>>30130446
>more then once
no anon, you made two desperate cries for attention
>>30130553
>Takes into consideration the fact that use of a gun to kill oneself would be detrimental to hasgunz still living
My nigga
>>30130760
This more than anything else is what kept me out of those kind of thoughts during some dark times (which came about at least in part due to prescribed drug side effects but I didn't realize that at the time). Couldn't make my parents bury their son and couldn't fuck with my siblings' future like that.
>>30130940
fuck senpai I think you hit the nail on the head. I've been feeling kind of generally shitty the last week or so and I've been sitting around not doing shit. (recent grad with no job).
I'm going running tomorrow. No doubt about it.
>>30130843
True.
>>30130928
But this is what I meant, how lucky I am to be where I am in life. But you're right, I should be proud of how hard I've worked to get what I have. (Even though I haven't worked that hard in comparison to many others)
>>30130415
Sometimes when I'm driving on the highway and I'm in a turn I think, if I let go of the steering wheel I would die
Also when I shoot with people I think about that there's nothing stopping them from shooting me
>>30131008
I had a friend kill himself under the influence of ecstasy and alcohol and around 300 people showed up to the guys funeral.
It was in a big auditorium. Such a shame.
>>30131021
as i said, you cant control their lives or their circumstances. no reason to feel bad about something you cant control.
>>30130991
>>30130553
You should never think about direct suicide because you should remember that when you are willing to commit all of your being to a single purpose, you are a force terrifying to behold. The man with nothing to lose can singlehandedly shape the course of nations, even the world.
Pic related singlehandedly saved Japan from socialism immediately before his death.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otoya_Yamaguchi
I'm not saying go out in a deadly fashion, and if you believe in an afterlife like I do killing before death is a very bad idea. But if you reach the point where you truly want to die, you should find a way to give your death meaning, your last act doing something that can leave your mark upon the world in a way that benefits the people you care about in some fashion. Or hell, even gets you into wikipedia for "craziest suicide methods" if that tickles your fancy.
>>30130415
thats the same voice that reminds you that you can step into traffic or jump off bridges. Completely normal, you're just noticing it more.
>>30131112
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otoya_Yamaguchi
Damn what a fucking badass.
>>30131115
Yes and I'm not used to it being around when I'm relaxing in my bedroom lol
>>30130415
You sound really really stupid and worthless.
Honestly maybe suicide is the answer?
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>>30131388
(you)
>>30131424
See you think I'm baiting but I'm not. This is my genuine opinion.
>>30130679
>Intrusive thoughts.
Just this.
Ignore them and they'll go away eventually for the most part. I used to take all my shit and put it in the safe when I'd have a drink or two, now I don't even think about them until the goddamn cat knocks objects off of shelves in the middle of the night.
>>30130415
Nope. Just keep your ammo separate from the gun, and don't drink I guess.
>>30130717
Fuck Feeling. It's a good book. I'd recommend it. While I'm not suicidal there is a lotta shit that gets me down/ feel like "I'm a loser/failure/etc"
Everybody has stuff that gets/could get/should get them down. I think the winners just say "screw what I think/how I feel/what I think others think of me; I'm breathing. I've got my pants on. I can make someone smile about something today. Fuck my feelings, everything considered I'm gonna do the next right thing and that will make it a good day."
>>30130415
I'm pretty sure I suffer from some form of depression and have extremely low self esteem/self worth. I occasionally contemplate suicide but I get out of it from looking at pictures of suicide victims with their heads blown off, decomposed in their room with nobody finding them after 2 months etc.
If I were ever going to kill myself, I wouldn't use a gun. And not because of that gay ass "hurr more ammunition 4 da libruls" shit, I just don't want to. I never get uneasy knowing I have a fast way to off myself because I don't see my guns that way.
>>30131591
That was supposed to say "F*ck Feelings" written by Michael Bennett and Sarah Bennett
>>30130415
It actually gives me some relief because I know if things got bad enough for whatever reason that killing myself was an option on the table, I have the power to do so easily.
>>30130760
>It's really kind of a selfish thing if you've ever known someone who suicides. The grief of the family and friends is terrible.
Don't wanna sound like a total edgemeister, but sometimes its said friends and family that pushes them over the edge.
Not everyone is lucky to be born normal or with the same situation. And while the majority of society does share
>>30130415
IMO the people to worry about are those who freely wield powerful weapons without respecting the harm they can do.
>>30131714
*share the same kinds of values, a person who is unstable or is in a dark place is most likely on some completely set of values then everyone else, who may very well fall into a sense of detachment and inevitability that they are indeed "doomed" to be a terrible person.
Telling a severely emotionally wounded individual that they need to unfuck themselves to meet the standards of the society that has "hurt" them, tends to cause them to further decline until they accept their fate and either kill themselves or go berserk and act out, including those mass shooting faggots.
And as a result, us in society have two choices, we can blame ourselves to try and prevent as many people from trying to fall to the same logic pitfall or we can full on target and neutralize those dangerous elements like the asshole degenerates those isolated and angry people think we are.
I tend to dislike the whole "lets blame the victim" approach because all it seems to do is scapegoat said folk and preserve the pride of normal people who then don't look at themselves to make the needed adjustments to mitigate those issues. But on the other hand it lets us move on quickly and also target incoming threats to purge society's problems in a very inhumane method.
My only worry, and it is far from paranoia, is complying with my state's absolutely impossible and constantly worsening statutes, regulations and case law.
I'm also a father of a young child, and although I am insanely careful, I find myself turning over in my mind the day I will introduce him to firearms, what the deciding factor will be in terms of his maturity and readiness, and balancing that with the wife and her hormones and all that shit. You married guys know what I'm talking about.
>>30131059
I guess the best thing to do is to join the NRA and try to get gun laws turned around.
>>30130415
No way, not in that sense. It kind of feels cool/powerful in that sense, that the option is open to you should you want to take it. I've never contemplated suicide nor do I imagine I ever would, but I'm a man who loves his options.
I used to take my favorite toy with me to bed when I was a little kid, and I never understood the feeling it would give me until I had a loaded gun sitting next to my bed at night.
Feels good anon.
I get uncomfortable when I OC, even on private property. I like to OC when I mow the grass, but I have to mow a plot right by the sidewalk where people actively walk by. It's a weird feels good/but awkward combo at the same time.
But don't let it freak you out. Remember, you still have to do all of the work. I keep my WASR with a loaded mag and the safety off in my house all the time i'm there. People freak out but I think they underestimate the amount of work still required to chamber and fire a round.
Also, WASRs are great. I love the shit out of mine and would never buy a more expensive AK, it does what an AK should do.
>>30130415
Well yeah, like every day. But that's because I don't have the proper holster and I'm too skinny
>>30130415
I think the exact same thing OP.
>>30130480 is a good way to think about it.
You have it so that you can defend yourself from some wacko/nigger/rapist/bad person attacking you in your home/robbing you, anyway.
>>30130480
I think about crashing into nice cars because mine is shit and it would affect them more than me
>>30130415
No OP. Before I went on medication I was quite suicidal, but having guns around at the time never bothered me like that.
I would have rather duct taped knives to my steering wheel and fashioned pic related to my skull as I plowed my car into a church or some shit.
>hated life
>still hated anti gunners more and didn't want to become more ammo for them to use against us
>pic related, a sweet shotgun shell suicide helm
>>30130553
>Also cause I know I'd be another gubber stat
Same thought here. Having easy means to off yourself is just.. Well. I'm not going to say awkward. But it's resulted in my just staring at the wall for a while. Depression sucks. Especially when you're not entirely sure what's causing it.
I ended up picking up boxing and meditation. It's honestly helped. An outlet for stress and a way to calm and over-active mind can really do wonders.
tl;dr: It used to be an issue with me as well. Consider meditation and physical activity.
>>30131591
>>30131638
I've seen that book and have thought about buying it. Is it actually worth picking up?
If you are suicidal then keep the trigger lock in place and lock your ammo up separately. Don't get blackout drunk alone at home.
Ive owned guns all my life since I was a child and always keep loaded guns in the house. Never had an issue but I'm not suicidal. A bit depressed at times but never considered ending it. It does scare me that I could get blackout drink and do something stupid tho but im pretty safe
>>30130415
You can kill yourself 100 ways from Sunday. Don't use the AK
>>30130415
If you really have this fear, just disassemble it, then when somebody breaks into your house you just gotta speed assemble it.
You could be doing what that one anon did from /b/ where he said he beats his suicidal urges by storing dildos all over the place to make sure he won't kill himself or else people will find the dildos and sex toys he stores everywhere.
>>30130415
First week I felt very weird owning something with so much power. Every since I took it apart, examined how it worked, shot it, and practiced, I've never felt that way again. Feels great to own a gun.
>>30130415
A car and knife are equally as likely to kill you if not more so.
You've been brainwashed into this myfriend its not uncommon.
>>30130415
It's just something your brain does. You're not supposed to feel OK about potential death. It's like how you sometimes get the urge to jump when high up, but you don't. A mere test your brain pulls.
As for weird feelings about guns, I've noticed I'm much more ballsy with people now that I carry. Some Somali family felt the need to bring 6 people grocery shopping and blocked off an aisle while jabbering so loud you could hear it from the entrance. Rather than walk away and come back later, I made a snarky remark about something something more melanin equals lack of courtesy. Everyone in the aisle stared at me as I grabbed my stuff and left.
Probably not my brightest moment.
