Is the Sig P320 the best striker fired gun out in the market right now?
All I know is, I personally think sigs are ugly as sin...I actually prefer glocks aesthetically over them
>>30112153
You should stay the fr*ck out of my thread if you're going to post something so useless like this but I do also like how the Glock 19 looks.
>>30112146
>buying american SIGs
>>30112216
Hi noguns! I think I saw you and your stupid opinions in a thread elsewhere! >>30112165
>he capitalizes Sig
>>30112146
I held one at a gunshow. It felt really nice but the grip was on the small side for my giant meathooks.
>>30112227
>apparently a nogun because I write SIG in capital
The name of the manufacturer is written SIG because it's an acronym that stands for Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft. Sig is false. You would know if you were a real firearms lover
>>30112146
It's very good as are others.
>>30112256
>You would know if you were a real firearms lover
And you wouldn't blindly hate Exeter Sigs if you were one. Quit acting like an idiot, it isn't healthy.
i admit i'm biased, but i think it's an excellent pistol. i do have a few gripes, but most of those will be addressed when the P320 Target comes out. my decision will be whether to keep my existing full size and get an upgrade kit, or get the new one for the purported trigger mods (or get both, why not)
>>30112242
good thing the entire grip module's interchangeable
http://www.selwayarmory.com/sig-sauer-p250-p320-grip-module-assembly-compact-large-9mm-357-sig-40-s-w-black.html
>>30112256
who gives a shit.
>>30112271
Exeter SIG Sauer factory makes shitty and inaccurate weapons anon. Denying it won't make it magicaly go away
>>30112277
>P320 Target
I want that as my next pistol.
>>30112277
>>30112291
>P320 Target
oh my
>>30112146
>best
Only thing going for them is that you can theoretically get cheaper replacement parts, since the trigger group is the serialized part. However, with Glocks being so goddamn common, it's still a hard sell. Only reason to really buy one is for
>muh csgo [it's a p250 but so what, same difference]
>muh SIG
>muh caliber change gimmick [which isn't as useful considering you could just, oh, i dont fucking know, buy another gun and have TWO guns ready to go instead of just having one and then spare parts]
I used to love the idea of a P320, and then i actually got a job that pays me more than minimum wage. For the price of extra parts for the caliber change, you could just buy another pistol.
Or hell, a cheap 5.56 rifle. I know this isn't what the thread's about, but money matters.
>>30112146
They are pretty good. The trigger is very nice.
>>30112146
Yes.
>>30112146
No.
This is, doesn't have a 5 story bore axis and has ambi controls.
>>30112299
>muh csgo
Yeah, I don't think anyone has ever said this. You're reaching a bit but I agree with the having two guns thing. It makes more sense if you get a custom trigger job on it and rotate it from a fullsize to a subcompact when you conceal carry so you don't end up having to get custom work on two guns. But I do see where you're coming from.
>>30112291
yup. refined trigger with flat shoe (swapping trigger shoes isn't that hard), integrated magwell, rear sight's on a plate so you can swap it for a MRDS, adjustable sights, fiber front, longer barrel, higher backstrap, and the grip panels are blank with grip cutouts so you can stipple or apply grip tape to a clean surface.
SIG's about to hit a home run with this one.
>>30112299
the caliber/size swap is really only useful to an agency. frame swap is a godsend though.
>>30112277
>who gives a shit
I don't know, everyone? Just like a clip isn't a mag. Those are the kind of things that differentiate noguns from real gun owners
>>30112319
CS has helped sell more guns than any of us will ever see in our lives.
>>30112227
Only noguns use "Sig" and not "SIG"
>>30112324
>frame swap is a godsend
You've got my attention, what makes you say this? Something I've overlooked?
>>30112327
>Those are the kind of things that differentiate noguns from real gun owners
Such esoteric and rare knowledge
>>30112314
the only ambi control the P320 doesn't have that the FNS has is that the P320 has a swappable mag catch while the FNS is ambi right off the bat. no safety on a P320 and the Target gets your hand higher.
>>30112364
Everyone with a brain and basic Google knowledge would know but most of the noguns use wrong terms. Unfortunately even some gun owners say clips or shit like that....
>>30112362
two reasons:
you can experiment all you want (glue and grit, stipple, add a mag well, undercut... hell take the trigger guard off if you want) and you're only out a $40 part.
the grip size is a more completely designed thing rather than just something that increases trigger reach like any pistol with an interchangeable backstrap. even the VP9/P30 have interchangeable side panels and an interchangeable backstrap.
>>30112146
I love mine, but best on the market is a bit hard to argue. Personally I love how easily it can be swapped out for a different caliber and size, the trigger is pretty damn sweet and the overall design is solid, except some people complain the bore axis is a bit high. If somebody asked me what was best I'd say check out flock 19, sig p320, and the Walther p99 or something like that, because they have a decent mix of features and sizes. It's definitely one of the best on the market, but I wouldn't say it's the best because everyone has different preferences, and this doesn't match to everyone. Not yet at least.
God damn it's a sexy gun though.
>>30112364
Clips are still used though. That picture is stupid
>>30112146
Yes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZTRjXD7AVU
I handled one and it felt great, easy to reach the controls. Seems accurate enough from reviews Ive read/watched.
Pros: relatively affordable, ergonomic, simple, easy to change frame.
Cons: slide serrations felt a little sharp for me, & Sig is changing the slide catch so there may be some compatibility issues with the "older" models
The only reason I haven't bought one yet is because I already have a G19 & USP 9.
Might get one eventually because I do like the P320.
>>30112146
that doesnt look like a P99
>>30112153
You think Glocks are better looking than Sigs? You have some issues with taste. Glocks are a step above HI points in terms of looks.
>>30112146
Yes
Why do SIG owners enjoy the super high bore axis compared to typical Glock/Springfield/S&Ws/most guns? Honest question.
>>30112216
I have ~14,100 rounds through my Sp2022, not one malfunction. Care to explain?
I also have ~4,500rds throught a Glock 19, ~6k through a P250. What was your inexperienced ass babbling about again?
>>30112271
lol, he lost his semantics argument over how to write SIG SAUER®
I think this beautiful website has left you behind, no one cares at all about your utterly shit opinions, or what your fat, tryhard fingers bang out angrily on whatever cheap trash you type your idiotic thoughts out on.
Truly, kill yourself. Suffer as much as you can so that I can cum to thoughts of your suffering you utter piece of fucking subhuman filth
Nah jk, you're pretty cool
>>30112950
Bore axis height is a non-issue for most end users that can be compensated for with proper grip and recoil management technique...
>>30113073
But you don't get to pretend like you know shit about shooting if you don't mention bore axis.
It isn't even an issue unless you're a serious competitive shooter. Seeing as how 90% of /k/ are dirtshooting poorfags, it is legitimately a non issue.
>>30112167
>fr*ck
The SIG is really nice, its trigger is much better than Glock. For EDC though, I would still choose Glock, because if the gun gets taken away, it's less of a loss than the SIG. If I wasn't going to carry I would choose the SIG hands down.
>>30114710
Pretty much this. If I have to shoot someone, I'd rather do it with a basic glock then something fancy.
>>30114710
>it's less of a loss than the SIG.
They're literally the same price. Hell, you can find P320's for cheaper than a 19 new.
>>30114868
I thought the SIG was $100 more. At least it is at my local gun shop.
>>30112146
No. They are extremely ugly and feel extremely cheap. The worst kind of plastic quality possible on those things. Grab something like an HK USP to feel what great plastic feels like.
>>30112314
ARe you on crack? THat bore axis is very tall. Steyr can brag about it's bore axis, hell, even Glock but that gun you posted there? no.
>>30114982
You must live in an area where siggers are more numerous. They tried to get people to buy P250s and P320s AT MSRP, nobody wanted em, so I was able to snag my 320 Carry for 500 flat.
Also, the TLR-1 HL and a 12pk of Cells showed up at my door today. Now I have the perfect nightstand setup.
Anyone know a decent OWB holster that will take the light. Safariland thinks $200+ is an acceptable price for a light bearing paddle retention holster.
>>30112319
Buying a gun because you enjoyed it in a videogame or movie is surprisingly common and totally a valid reason to buy a gun
>>30112873
Yes, sigs just look stupid fat to me with their fuck huge "bore axis"
>>30112319
How the hell do you think the desert eagle keeps selling?
I have a 320 and just got a glock 40(10mm) and I like the way glocks shoot. That being said, I do like my sigs
>>30112146
It works well for me, I will say that I'm starting to notice the full size is a little heavy in the front, but damn if it ain't accurate.
>>30112146
Yes
>>30115398
>Grab something like an HK USP to feel what great plastic feels like.
*Grab something like an HK USP to feel what shit trigger feels like
Learn some reading comprehension, talking about striker fired guns, noguns
>>30121063
Side note, full size looks and feels damn big, like Beretta 92 or robocops gun big, for 2 extra rounds. Guess that's why carry size exists. Can conceal carry it fairly easily, So I guess I'm lucky there.
I am looking to buy my first handgun, and it has come down between the 320 and the vp9. I think they are both awesome guns from the research I have done, and I am going to go shoot them both and then choose based on what feels best to me. Any other ideas/tips?
>>30121492
Go with that, start where you have gotten so far.
>>30121570
God that 5th line is fucking retarded.
It feels great to hold and shoot, not really into the caliber and size kits but the grip frame being able to be swapped out for different sizes textures and styles for $40 is pretty sweet. The trigger is wonderful and the night sights are glorious. People don't like the high bore axis but I grew up shooting sigs almost exclusively so it's perfect for me. It's a balls accurate reliable striker gun. At this point these guns companies are churning out are almost identical it really boils down to preference. You won't go wrong with it or a glock or a m&p or a XD or (insert polymer frame striker pistol here)
>>30112378
>even some gun owners say clips
some?
>>30112277
>>30112291
>>30112297
Any idea when it's coming out and how much it's gonna be? Quick google search turned up nothing.
>>30121715
>>30112378
>>30112364
>>30112327
I get what he's saying though, getting mad because of small and minor details is pretty much the same as progressives freaking out because someone doesn't know their pronouns. You really want to stoop to that level of hormonal hysteria?
>>30112146
>Best striker fired anything
If I ate goose liver pâté for a week straight, and shat in your mouth, you could call it the best shit you had ever tasted if you wanted to, but you'd still be eating shit.
>>30121570
Those are some good tips! Thanks! I have done like 85% of that. I have been interested in getting a handgun for a while, and I figured this was the summer to do it. A Cabelas just recently opened up near where I live, and I was amazed by their staff. I was helped by two incredibly knowledgeable, nice, and accommodating people behind the counter who were happy to let me hold every single gun, and gave me tons of advice. I was honestly stunned. I think I was there for over an hour and a half! Afterwards I researched and researched and researched. Basically the only thing I have done in my free time the last week. So many good websites and videos out there.
There is a range nearby which rents guns and has a lot of options, so I am going to go there and shoot them. I still can't decide if I am going down the right track with the striker fire, since I have mostly shot DA/SA in the past. I am also having issues because I want a gun which does everything, which I know does not exist. I want a gun primarily for defense, the range, and in case the world goes to shit... but I have also thinking about getting my concealed carry permit recently. So yeah... tough choice, haha! I have never been particularly good at decisions anyways.
>>30121626
Why?
>>30121772
At this point with your gun joy I'd tell you to pick the love of your life and fuck it when you get home, but that would be me having a laugh.
Just start with what knowledge you have, work it up from there, and do all you can to keep yourself from getting a raw deal. Besides, once you buy one gun you're gonna realize you need to buy ALL the guns.
>>30112146
>bore
Why does sig insist on having one of the highest bore axes on the fucking market?
>>30121814
Same reasons why niggers insist on posting their half assed posts.
>>30121812
Hahaha. Yeah, I'm pretty excited. And I am sure this will be the first of many to come... that is always how it seems to go.
Should I be worried as a first time gun buyer about buying a gun without a safety? Someone mentioned that I should consider a gun with a safety. Also, what are other guns I should be taking a look at?
>>30112407
>& Sig is changing the slide catch so there may be some compatibility issues with the "older" models
Should I just wait until they do this since I want a P320?
Dugan likes them, watch his vid.
tfw im the only person left who truly believes in the P250 master race
tfw the P250 was pretty much thrown in the dirt after the P320, which is just a P250 but striker-fired because muh niche Glocklike market
at least they gave us the .22lr p250 but, fucking hell
feels bad man
>>30121828
>Should I be worried as a first time gun buyer about buying a gun without a safety?
No. It doesn't make a difference, because you'll be following the 4 rules.
>>30121887
dat diction doe
*tfw the P250 was pretty much thrown in the dirt after the P320, which is just a P250 but striker-fired because muh niche Glocklike market, was released
at least they gave us the .22lr p250 but, fucking hell
>>30112950
You will never shoot well enough that bore axis will matter for you.
>>30121814
Implying you could ever shoot at the level where that would matter.
>>30121828
A safety doesn't matter that much if you are following the rules and being as responsible as possible.
Anything beyond that is just getting in the way. If you are unsure of your skills and control, then maybe, just to get you used to it. Beyond that? don't bother, push your skills and knowledge further.
>>30121909
>>30121949
this. You just sound like a retard complaining about bore axis
>>30121949
>>30121968
Bore axis changes recoil dynamics you fuckwits. Lower bore axis results in a more in-line recoil, whereas high bore axis causes more pronounced muzzle flip. This has nothing to do with the accuracy of the gun, you goddamn noguns.
>>30116590
>Buying a gun because you enjoyed it in a videogame or movie is surprisingly common and totally a valid reason to buy a gun
i got my P226 because of robocop
>>30121107
Rekd
>>30122171
I bought a P226 because of The Veteran
>>30112167
Glock 19 fo life
>>30112167
>>30112873
Sigs with rails are worse than the gay plague aids. At least glocks look like they were designed for them.
>>30112263
This. There's over a dozen plastic striker fired handguns on the market right now that are roughly the same price, very accurate and very reliable. Which is best is really up to one's personal preferences and needs.
>>30116210
Halfwit. The bore axis is relatively the same on both handguns. The steyr adds unnecessary bulk on the front to make it look like you're getting a higher grip, and the slide is moved further back to avoid the beavertail look. It's designed that way purely for aesthetic purposes. Quality wise that thing is on par with the s&w svd9e. It's a budget gun.
>>30122301
All handguns should have rails at this point. You're buying antiquated crap if it doesn't.
>>30122708
May or may not be unrelated but will everyone start adding rails onto their subcompact pistols like the glock 26, m&p9c, p320 subcompact etc now that the xc1 is a thing?
>>30112146
I've enjoyed mine, but I would love to get a hold of an Arsenal Strike One to try out
>>30122751
Hopefully. Why there are no rails on the g26 is beyond me. The rails on all glocks are basically concealed carry friendly rails...
>>30112146
it's a mediocre fucking ugly gun with a high bore axis with absolutely nothing new that poorfags buy to be part of the sig club.
seriously, we have a thread about this every single day, you guys are more cancerous than VP9 guy
>>30121890
>>30121961
Alright, that makes sense. I am my own safety.
>>30122909
>accessories on your ccw
>>30123721
The safety isn't a substitute for trigger discipline, it's a mechanism that allows you to safely holster and pick your weapon up off a surface while a round is chambered, and one should be.
With older hammer fire guns it's less necessary because you can put your thumb on the hammer and the gun won't fire, with never striker fire guns it's absolutely necessary. Don't fall for the machoman no safety meme. If you shoot yourself in the leg, dont call an ambulance. Call your family and tell them you love them, because that's not often something you live to tell about.
It also aids in a gun grab scenario, if someone is able to get your gun out of your holster, put it on you, and pull the trigger, it's going to take at least a second for them to realize what's going on. Niggers never use the safety on their hi points, I doubt they even know what one is. Even if they do, you have that second to go all in and take it to the ground or do what you have to do, draw your knife, etc.
>>30123727
>seeing in the dark
Tell me your secrets, trashman.
Is bore axis even relevant? I've shot a Glock 17 and a P229 side by side with the same ammo. The 229 was much softer shooting, what gives?
>>30123932
The p229 is metal, extra weight helps reduce recoil, but is extra weight.
Bore axis's influence on recoil is minimal, but it just looks shitty imo. So do guns that go out of their way to make it as small as possible, like the strike one and lebedev. It's all just preference I guess, but seriously Sig needs to stop fucking around and update their designs, there's no reason for a striker gun to be that retarded.
Any reason to get this over the P250?
>>30124058
250 = DAO, long pull with resistance and no break
320 = Striker fired with short reset and crisp break
With the long DAO trigger, the user has more opportunity to pull the trigger off center.
>>30123808
Carry a separate flash light. That way you don't have try to conceal an even bigger weapon and you can use the flashlight for other purposes.
Get a fully ambidextrous gun with a better stock trigger.
Walther PPQ
>>30124378
I own a 320 and rented a ppq. The ppq was actually very nice but as a lefty, it was no easier to use, like at all. I also wouldn't say that it was "better" I really like the feel of the 320 trigger with it's clear reset and take down method. I'd be as happy with one as the other though.
>>30123808
>>30124343
>>30124657
>Fumble around with flashlights in a life or death situation
>>30126589
>being in a sudden life or death situation in total darkness
Do you live in the underground city of the mole people?
>>30126606
>I don't go out at night
I live in a red state that doesnt have enough tax revenue to afford street lights in a lot of places so yes actually.
