MOSINFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrV3Wq59mz0
>implying literally any other bolt rifle wouldn't have fared the same
shitposters on shitposting watch.
>>30112135
that's only older mosinn nagants
newer made nuggets don't hae this problmem go fuck yourself noguns nigger
>>30112151
>newer made nuggets don't have this problem
hahahahahhaa
>>30112151
wut
i like ian, but wehraboos' autistic grudge on slavshit after all these years is truly something to behold
>>30112151
MONKEY MODEL MOSIN!
No one ever said that it was a good rifle, just that it was good for the price.
>>30112200
It's just slavaboos being taken down a peg. I remember the days of old /k/ where mosin fags would claim their 100 dollar beater gun was superior to a AR-15 that would jam up if it touched a single grain of sand.
>>30112276
Anon please, there are several slavaboos that claimed just that.
>>30112135
LOL MOSINFAGS BTFO
I want a Winchester 1895.
>>30112276
I've always maintained that they were pretty good rifles, for their time. A lot of people have had poor examples of them.
There is autistic love and autistic hate for everything on this board because it's always been filled with social outcasts trying to justify their purchases over others.
>>30112135
>oh let's dump the barrel and every part of the gun that has space with mud.
>oh look it doesn't work, mosinfags on suicide watch xd
Of course it won't fucking work. If you dump everything with mud, and completely fill every space with mud, how the fuck do you expect it to work
>>30113545
The AR 15 worked
>>30113545
It did the worst of any other gun that has been through the test.
>>30112135
>open thumbnail
>oh, it's these guys again
>don't need to watch the video to know what's coming
>hey guize, watch what happens when we throw this perfectly functional rifle that has served well for decades into a mud hole that even a retarded russian conscript would move heaven and earth to keep his rifle out of
>ohmergard, it don't werk no more, it's shit
Ian sounded so cutely enthusiastic when he finally managed to chamber the next round ;3
USING A SPANISH CIVIL WAR RIFLE FOR THEIR TEST REEEEEEEEEEE
>>30113545
>>30113581
As pointed out in the YouTube comments, using the cocking knob before trying to open the bolt may have alleviated the lockup. The locking lug *should* be able to move small blockages on its own.
I'm not saying this means the nugget is BEST GUN EVER but it's a little unfair to not use a documented practice for opening a stuck bolt. The guys making the video have a bit of bias, but, meh, whatever.
I never got the point of these videos drumping gritty mud in the action of a bolt gun kinda figured it would jam up. Anyone who uses this shit as a justification to hate or love a firearm is autistic and poor.
>not loving all firearms and constantly trying to grow and diversify your collection
>>30112135
I want to see a K98 do better before I form an opinion.
They specifically mentioned the mauser in the video, but Ians autistic german friend probably won't let them do a test on the K98 now
>>30113871
What does an experiment done one time prove anyway? This is not scientific unless they did repeated tests on the same day with the same batch of mud, and even then, it only proves that one rifle is more likely to perform well when this specific mud is dumped on it in this specific way. It doesn't prove much.
We have a pretty good way to measure how good this rifle was - in war, it performed at a level which was adequate. I think anyone who is intellectually honest knows that the mauser is an incrementally better firearm. A heated argument is retarded unless we all are about to go to war and for some reason we have to choose one of these two rifles.
>>30114015
-I meant to say repeated tests on the same day with the same mud with both rifles
>>30114015
Well it really doesn't prove much but it is a sound test of a rifle in my opinion.
I want to see him in try to beat the curved charging handle on K98 like he did on the mosin though. That would be intersting
>>30114055
What if he uses a straight handle Mauser?
>>30114087
I don't think your reading comprehension is very good
>>30113871
I would place money on any bolt action locking up under that test. They put mud on it from the top where there is a large open portion of the receiver and a bolt reliant on its specified space to move. Start introducing a lot of shit in there and it's bound to lock up, although to be honest I expected it to open just fine but bind up on the forward movement and refuse to go into lockup at least.
Oddly enough I would bed that something like a Surgeon action or a T3 or something with a more tube like receiver (solid 'top' and a small ejection opening) to do better, even though their tolerances are tighter there's less places for the mud to get in. Of course when the mud does get in the results would be the same or worse.
Closed up, modern semi-autos would probably fare better initially, but you get enough mud inside the bolt raceway, on the lugs, the recesses, in the mag or the chamber and they will all bind up. Those rifles have other reliability issues that bolt guns perhaps don't have, but after all these years of development and progress it's no surprise that modern rifles are perhaps the most reliable yet made.
>>30112135
Comrade, Nagants are for two-men squad. One crouches, the other fires and opens the bolt on the other's helmet.
>>30112135
Okay? So you cram an open rifle with mud and it jams.
If it's a closed system it doesnt.
What are they trying to prove here?
>>30112135
>Das Russgewehr ist Scheisse!
>>30114211
That the Mosin can't handle mud like modern guns can.
>>30114257
>like modern guns
What, like the AK?
>>30114211
Other than how it's interesting to see how older bolt actions that people claim to be more reliable actually perform when compared to modern semi autos? I don't know how often I've heard it claimed that manually operated guns would always be more reliable in harsh conditions and it's interesting to see testing that proves how wrong that line of thought is. I really hope they keep doing this testing and add other bolt action rifles, maybe some older lever actions (depending on the design may perform better than bolt actions, in particular the ones with the rising locking piece that's exposed on top) and various revolvers.
>>30114267
The AK, AR, M1a, and even the damn M1 Garand did better.
>>30114269
I wonder how a purpose built modern bolt action would compare in reliability to a modern self loading rifle.
I mean, I'm not really surprised a rifle from the 1890s isn't perfect.
>>30114302
Still wouldn't do well. Semi-Autos like the AR are designed to blow debris out. What is going to remove that much debris from a bolt-action?
>>30112151
Nigger, it was a '39 Tula. They literally don't get any better.
>>30113613
not only that, but the same would have happened for ANY bolt aciton rifles
shitposters gotta shitpost i guess
>>30113613
The AR15 worked.
>>30114382
Stop shitlord you'll trigger them.
let them keep justifying mediocrity to themselves
>>30114302
You mean non-Mauser bolt action?
Anyone catch waht kind of coating they had on the rifle? Pretty sure they didn't have the best finish on it and probably didn't even use authentic russian oil.
>>30114269
>>30114302
>>30114342
They did a Winchester 1895 on full30. It crushed the test. Literally no stoppage at all.
>>30114342
I'm sure Keltech could come up with some Plastic Magic to do the trick.
>>30114425
Lever nugget STRONK
>>30114423
There were pebbles rubbing against metal. Nothing you could do.
>>30114342
>Semi-Autos like the AR are designed to blow debris out
Ladies and gentlemen, out of these trials and tribulations we have a new bit of fuddlore. Yes, the AR-15 vents the gas out the side instead of into the receiver like generations of retards claimed it did. No, blowing gas out in that one spot won't do anything about every single part of the action that mud and grit could enter through. What keeps mud and grit out of the AR-15 is the tight tolerances that just don't let shit fall through. An Arisaka rifle with the dust cover would likely perform much better.
>>30114380
How about completely exposed rear locking lug designs that put any exposed metal where you could easily wipe grit away with a finger or one with a dustcover like an Arisaka.
>>30112135
i want that jacket, where can i get one?
>>30114475
>arisaka better than AR15
>arisaka better than nugget
>arisaka best rifle
gtfo war criminal
>>30113420
This. The Mosin is fine. It has good points and bad points. None of the bolt guns of WW2 are significantly better or worse than any other.
>>30114475
I agree with what you're saying. It's also worth noting that the dust covers on several rifles, including the Arisaka, were disposed of in light of operational experience. That seems to indicate that the kinds of things that dustcovers protected a rifle from did not generally happen in typical warfare.
This is a bit of an unrealistic test, even if you were crawling though a mudhole I don't expect mud would be applied directly to the top of your rifle like this. Not if you took even the slightest amount, let alone the proper amount, of care. And I am an infantryman who has crawled through a few mudholes, albeit not with a bolt action; though I am acquainted with mudphysics. It reminds me of the test the British did on the No1 MkIII where someone supposedly poured sand over the receiver of the rifle as another man fired it, I have never seen any evidence to support the legitimacy of the test so I can only assume that it's as likely as it is not that it happened.
>>30114523
Not saying it's the best, I'd just like to see how a bolt action with a dust cover would fare. Only other bolt action with a dust cover I know of is the Swiss Vetterli that most people probably don't know about.
>>30114302
>purpose built modern bolt action
Fully compartmentalized forward ejecting bolt action when?
>>30112135
All that struggling to get it open and all you'd have to do is hit the handle with a rock or set it on the ground and kick it one good time. Mosin are known for durability, by the way, not necessarily reliability. At least not any more so than your average ww2 rifle
>One week late
slowpoke.jpg, good job
>>30114523
>implying the Arisaka isn't better than the nugget
>>30114267
>AK
>able to take mud
Nice wishful thinking, slavaboo.
>>30114682
You're an idiot, I'm not a slavaboo and I'm saying "modern" russian guns do just as bad
>>30114699
Yeah I'm sure the gaping hole on "modern" Russian AK receivers take mud better than their old counterparts, you dumb poor as shit smelly slav wannabe nigger.
>>30114730
Yes but a nearly 120 year old german pistol design takes mud better than the "legendary" ak
>>30114762
I highly doubt that was the purpose of the design though.
>>30114730
I'm agreeing with you, I'm an AR and I won't be caught dead with an Ak
>>30114587
>That seems to indicate that the kinds of things that dustcovers protected a rifle from did not generally happen in typical warfare.
Or didn't work, or were too much of a hassle to justify a small benefit.
>>30114657
Or pull the cocking knob, known to contribute greatly to sticky bolt if it gets gritty.
>>30113871
Karl uses a fucking AK, they'll probably do a k98, a Lee Enfield, an Arisaka, and maybe a K31 because why not in separate vids. Only gun I doubt they'd do it on is a Springfield.
>>30113581
I assume you haven't seen the M1 Garand video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6J5m4_Is_s
>Just beat the everloving fuck out of it and it'll work like new.
Why is this bad?
>>30112151
confirmed noguns.
>>30114126
>tolerances
That doesn't mean what you think it does. Read a bit more before spouting opinions
>>30114475
>tolerances
CLEARANCES YOU FUCKING IDIOT TOLERANCES HAVE TO DO WITH MANUFACTURING
>>30116341
Which is what I'm talking about, a rifle manufactured with tighter tolerances will have less slop, or clearance, in the bolt channel for instance than your average wornass WW2 rifle with a mismatched bolt.
And nice cruise control.
>>30112200
>slavafags sit on their pedestal of supposed reliability
>two guys in Arizona literally rekt slavafags
>wu..wehraboos!
>>30115049
>in the middle of battle
>all your troops are busy beating their rifles instead of the enemy
>you're sent to Gulag for bad of design.
>>30114607
While we are at it lets make it a bullpup.
>>30112148
Arisakas with the dust cover intact.
oh and rememver, if an Arisaka blows and the explosion is actually enough to destroy the excessively strong rifle. The barrel will fly foward instead of the reciever and bolt flying back into you.
It's actually isn't surprising, considering that nuggets are notorious for failing in a similar manner because people don't clean all the cosmo from the chamber completely.
This is also slow poke. This video was up at full 30 for a week now.
>>30116773
It's actually be interesting for them to try it. They can either try an arisaka if they can find a beater, or try a siamese mauser if they can find the ammo, or find a beater that has been converted.
>>30112151
I love how people are responding to this seriously, it's wacky and wild how dumb people can get.
>>30116372
You can have tight tolerances (that is, how far off of "perfect" the listed dimension is) meant to produce a loose fit you retard.
>>30116786
They could find a beater arisaka and put an original (or reproduction) dust cover on it.
It actually does a fine job of blowing debris out from the dust port. Even Ian and Karl explain that.
>>30116792
Is allowed to be*
>>30114885
I have. I just thought I had remembered it cycling one round. My bad.
>>30112135
There is a reason that 27,000,000 Russians died in WW2. That reason is many were using the garbage rod aka Mosin Nagant.
>>30113851
To show that the m16/AR15 is the best weapons platform known to mankind.
>>30117001
>Stoner and Browning in a boxing match in hell
Who wins
>>30116443
The fact that all of the tested rifles saw service for decades in actual combat conditions and came out of it with generally good reputations says a lot about how valid these tests are.
>>30116854
>garbage rod forced meme
Or it could be because both sides ruthlessly hit major population centers with massed artillery.
>>30118578
The test isn't
>If 'X' gun cannot stand up to mud it is SHIT and anyone who carried it was a dumbass and any country that issued it should be on trial for war crimes against thier own men
The test is 'if we goop Arizona mud on these rifles would they still work? Why? Because fun things are fun.'
>>30114285
Garand fired one round and was done.
>>30118654
>The test is 'if we goop Arizona mud on these rifles would they still work? Why? Because fun things are fun.'
You're right, it's a highly specific test that doesn't emulate anything other than being dropped into a wheelbarrow full of sand and water.
It doesn't have any sort of relevance to what it would be like to have to use that rifle on the Eastern Front, but the video pretends that it does.
>>30118751
same with the mosin.
>>30116854
Remember all the dead germans who's K98's froze shut during the winter stalingrad offensive?
Yea, germany pretty much lost the war due to the K98, they never gained ground after the stalingrad offensive.
>>30118751
you said the garand did better, no one likes a liar.
>>30114285
>M1a
https://www.full30.com/video/9eef6b3a4eb6c8846a4c8dc4b8968bc4
>>30118795
Fired twice as many rounds as the mosin.
>>30118795
the garand/m14 action never was reliable, it's completely exposed and offers no way for shit to drain out since it's closed bottom, the muh greatest battle implement ever devised meme and amerifag nature covers up the fact.
I'm sure thousands died due to faulty garands in ww2, of course you will never hear anything about it.
>>30112135
I think this is funny but in a sense that it'd be surprising if someone finds a firearm that doesnt jam after having dirt directly fed into the receiver
>>30118760
It doesn't they never mention or imply that this was supposed to be anything other than something for lulz. How fucking triggered are you that the Mosin failed?
>>30118770
That wasn't the fault of the K98's design.That was the fault of the Nazi top brass for failing to issue winter gun oil when it had become WINTER. Thus, your average German soldier in Stalingrad during the winter had summer oil that had thickened so much due to the extreme cold that the bolt couldn't be easily cycled.
The german army had no winter gun oil, they used ballistol for everything up until 1945.
If they didn't freeze to death before the russians came, they were bayoneted to death with a mosin in their foxholes.
>>30117001
>implying it would work with mud in the action
>>30118877
the action is sealed thats the point. its superior in that aspect
>>30112135
As it so happens, the clay-type soil in the Phoenix valley is pretty unique so it's no big surprise when it eats guns like a mud monster eating Tasha Yar. Ian is being disingenuous by presenting his findings as final or typical. Still love him, his show, and his chocolate chip pants.
>>30117001
The AR didn't fail because it's better sealed, which also cause it to foul itself and keep all that dirty DI gas inside to jam it up, but we don't need to discuss AR reliability under actual battlefield conditions.
The tests are worthless, if you somehow manage to submerge your weapon in mud, you deserve to die in combat, keeping the rifle clear is the #1 thing taught and is ingrained into your mind in boot and after.
Failing to strip down the AR and meticulously clean and oil it after a patrol will cause clicks instead on bands when all the others that "failed" this bogus test will keep ticking.
>bought mosin for $180 shipped last week, be here wednesday
>only know three things about it
>izhevsk
>directly from a crate
>rich brown stock
this'll be neat.
>>30118915
The carbon that the AR blasts on itself (and scrapes off as it cycles) isn't a big deal compared to all the shit like mud and dirt it removes.
>>30118828
it was damn good and very reliable compared to rifles of the day. if you cant understand why comparing ww2 technology to the technology of today is unfair, i invite you to remove yourself from the gene pool
>>30118853
>they never mention or imply that this was supposed to be anything other than something for lulz
>The WW1 & WW2 Mosin-Nagant
>talking about testing it as it would be carried in combat
>comparing it to their test of another rifle the Russians used in the same period and how you'd be better off with it
do you even know what implying means?
>>30118949
I'm not that anon, and while I'm very fond of the m-14, it wasn't up to par with the FAL and the only reason the US used it was because lol springfield armory.
>>30118949
Compared to the SVT40 the garand was better, all the other infantry rifles of WW2 are better then the garand.
>>30118949
>it was damn good and very reliable compared to rifles of the day
Clearly not against the Arisaka.
Or the Winchester 1895
>>30118908
>>30118760
these two raise good points on the mud bit
mud from Europe probably has softer chunky bits like grass and twigs than mud made from sandy soil like AZ
>>30118972
Fuck off with that shit, the Soviets tried and tried to make an combat worthy autoloading rifle in a full size caliber but never succeeded like the Americans did with the M1.
>>30118942
>implies ar is self cleaning
vietnam part 2 here we come, you think parts that have something in their path wont "scrape" it away? Any metal moving part will do this, this is not a feature of the AR.
>>30118994
it took over 8 years and multiple design failures to even get the m1 to a state to where it could be deemed able to be fielded.
>>30118971
i mainly meant the garand, hence ww2 weapons. i agree the m-14 wasnt up to par for rifles of its time
>>30118972
>>30118982
better in what way exactly?
You've done it now, OP
>>30119021
The SVT 38/40 was/is a colossal piece of shit, it was a lame half assed attempt to field a semi automatic rifle, even the garand was better overall then it.
>>30119021
>In what way?
Mud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6J5m4_Is_s
Not even one round.
You are better of with a Winchester 1895
>>30114475
If you watch the footage from their AR video you can literally see the gas blowing mud from the weapon. It isn't fuddlore.
>>30119017
America adopted the Garand in 1936 and produced about 5 million rifles before the start of WWII, enough to outfit the entire army.
Quality planning and foresight? Good design and engineering? A political/economic system that wasn't in shambles? All these things the Americans had and the Soviets didn't, for various reasons.
>>30119047
im not saying the svt wasnt shit, i was saying in what way were the other semi-auto rifles of the era better
>>30119056
>if you subject a machine to something it was never designed for it will fail
wow its almost like nobody stopped mid war and dumped mud directly into the action of their rifle, never cleaned it, and continued trying to use it
>>30119074
>Gas from inside the action blows mud on the surface on the bolt carrier off
> implies self cleaning
in reality self fouling.
>>30119006
If you've ever owned an AR you'd know that the carbon does not build up in the critical areas because it is scraped away with every shot.
Remember, AR's can run fine dirty and they can run fine dry, but they have issues when both dirty AND dry.
Spray some lube in a carbon covered bcg and your AR will be good to go. (unless you have a shitty undergassed rifle).
>>30119047
>The SVT 38/40 was/is a colossal piece of shit
>jealous that the Germans didn't adopt and copy his favorite Canadian rifle, the M1 Garand.
>>30119095
Actually that IS self-cleaning.
If you're more worried about carbon build up than mud in the action then you're a dumbass.
>>30119099
"AR's can run fine dry"
Hahah, they sort of work soaking wet and dirty or clean and wet, but not dry whatsoever.
>>30119091
>wow its almost like nobody stopped mid war and dumped mud directly into the action of their rifle, never cleaned it, and continued trying to use it
Glad you and I agree the test is retarded and in no way a good metric to judge a WWII rifle's reliability. Now if only the rest of /k/ didn't take the bait hook, line, and sinker.
>>30119105
Those of you who are more astute on your history than this retarded anon will note that John Garand was a naturalized US citizen at the time he developed his rifle.
>>30119125
Confirmed for never owning an AR.
Or at least not one with a properly balanced gas system.
>>30112148
Not Ian, but this guy tested a Lee-Enfield and it did a bit better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAZuFJbe96c
I think he should have used rounds as close to the MKVII for the test, however.
>>30119095
I never implied anything. Go watch their video you slavaboo mong. The gas pushes mud off of the bolt carrier.
>>30114563
>Impying the No4 and SMLE didn't have significant advantages over all other bolt-actions of the period.
>>30119157
>A CANADIAN
bitch
>>30119197
The British were actually planning on replacing it with a Mauser style action, m8
>>30119125
>believing fuddlore
Really, people still think this way?
>>30119047
>no removable magazine
>can't be topped up
>shitty op rod that breaks
>PING!
this is what you wanted me to say right faggot?
>>30119173
I had enough shit with broken and shitty m16's and M4's after doing 4 years as a 92Y and 13 months in environment where the only fix to keep the ones that were not literally broken or unsafe was to clean them non stop and keep them slopping with oil.
I'll never buy a AR, way to many gun designs to even bother with a piece of crap.
>>30119217
Not him, but that was due to their experience in the Boer war, where they decided that it was better to have accurate long range shooting, instead of rapid fire. Later research shows that the main problems with the Lee-Enfields during the Boer War was mainly owing to poor QC for the rifles and the ammo. Tighten up the QC for both and the rifle was just fine for longer ranges.
This is ignoring (of course) that some blackpowder Lee-Metfords had also been used during the conflict.
For WW1, however, the P.13/P.14 were inferior to the Lee-Enfield for general use in the trenches owing to the more limited mag capacity, increased recoil (P.13) and greater weight.
>>30112135
>literally a WW1 Rifle
>only popular on /k/ because a handful of years ago you could have one for less than 100 USD
>literally the "poor man's" rifle, even though today you could get a properly made modern bolt action from Savage for only a little more money.
The Mosin was NEVER acclaimed for its reliability, its great workmanship, any of that. The German WW2 bolt actions are known for their god tier actions, the British for their god tier action speed, the USSR had a shit rifle produced in god unholy numbers that you used to be able to buy for 80 dollars.
Times have changed, the Mosin remains a shitty, sticky, bolt action. Motherfuckers have used a hammer to get that shit action open. It was never "AK-47" tier reliable, it never even had that "meme".
Mosin fags are on suicide alert because their rifles retail for 150 dollars on the lowest possible end, and surplus 54r is nearly out and comparable in price to new manufacture 54r.
>>30119185
watching this was painful in almost everyway
I've seen similar videos with the mosin, enfield, and mauser all failing quite badly at dealing with mud. This guy:
https://www.youtube.com/user/JohnLeePedimore
>>30112135
lmao reminds me of the time me and my friend had to dig our truck out of dry loose ass Florida dirt with our rifles. Dropped my Mosin in said dirt and the bolt was rendered fucked for that morning's hunt.
I'm not surprised at the outcome honestly. I knew that was pretty much it when my Mosin hit dirt. The question is, how do other rifles compare? I'm a bit hesitant to do the same for my Mausers or Enfields. Not because they aren't just as or even more reliable, they are actually worth some cash...
>>30119423
>>30119859
I guess that answers my question
>>30114563
>None of the bolt guns of WW2 are significantly better or worse than any other.
Yeah I like what you're trying to say but holy fuck you are dead wrong.
Comparing the Carcano to anything else proves as much; it's a terrible rifle.
So they made a pre-war Tula run like a mid-war Izzy. Seems counterproductive.
>>30119114
>>30119191
>Actually that IS self-cleaning.
Vietnam came, they're asking to give Colt back their propaganda.
>>30119975
>literally spouting fuddlore on /k/
Good try, bubba
>>30112186
>>30114351
>>30116236
Are you people literally retarded
>>30120058
>Fuddlore
>When the lack of cleaning kits and the claim of "self-cleaning" was responsible for the deaths of Americans and the main issue for the M16 besides shoddy ammunition during Vietnam War
Keep it up no guns
>hurr durr look what happens when you cram a rifle's operating components full of mud
>"slavaboos btfo"
>YFW the wehraboos still can't accept that their fave-wit awmeee lost after 70 years
>>30120264
Poorfags btfo
>>30118915
this man speaks the truth
>>30120288
>wehraboos getting mad when reminded of the truth
>"P-p-poorfag!"
everytiem
>>30120320
What makes you think I'm a Wehraboo?
Are you so dillusional from the cosmoline vapor that you think the only people that shit on Mosins are Mauser poorfags?
>>30120320
>he doesn't like the shit I like! He must like a different kind of shit!!1 I know! I'll pretend like this isn't bothering me, and that I'm not just defending my poor decisions and purchases!
>>30112135
I SWEAR TO GOD IF THEY DON'T FUCKING STOP...
>>30119279
And more importantly the fact that a lot of the Boers were top tier shots with a lot of practical experience in shooting. Look at what happened when the BEF, a small force of professional soldiers, went to war in 1914. There were several displays of excellent marksmanship on a large scale and they had far greater impact than their number would suggest. The reason being is that there was an oddly collective and intense will for marksmanship training in the UK following the Boer wars and up to WW1, and the BEF was thoroughly trained in shooting and battle.
The rifle they had was up to the task, it just needed to be used by a competent man. Which is basically the case for most weapons throughout history.
>>30119423
Watching those it seems that the Mosin jammed up a lot quicker, the same as in Ian's test, than either the Mauser or especially the Enfield. I mean you needed to use a lot of force to work that No1 MkIII but it was willing to work, and the 98 got of like twice as many rounds as the Mosin.
>>30119898
Why does the Carcano constantly get shit on? What makes it a bad rifle?
This is going to sound stupid , but...
most "dirt" in Arizona is sand and small rocks. It's literally wet sand, not mud. Ian even stated that there were rocks in the action that made it a circus to open. A mud test with no mud is kinda pointless. But what do I know , I'm just some guy on the internet
>>30120786
Keep projecting your kraut tears of anal discomfort through my screen, boi. I'm making Cesars and I need some salt.
>>30120744
>you think the only people that shit on Mosins are Mauser poorfags?
Naw man. Wehraboos are always the first, to shit on anything Soviet, though. Fast track for lulz is to remind them that their preferred side lost.
>>30122533
>/v/ reaction images
Way to shoot down your own arguments
>>30114563
But that's wrong, you mongoloid
>>30119257
Keeping them slipping with oil innasandbox is WHY your rifles never worked. Dry M16's work great innadesert.
>>30122645
I remember Frank Proctor explained that M16s do best with just a tiny tiny bit of lube on a couple contact points, then you're good to go. Definitely seems most people overlube in general.
>>30122604
>Grasping at straws this hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl46Eh_OBhg
nuggetfags BTFO.
https://youtu.be/OnEkeQF46n8?t=198
Firepower united too. It's full on frontal assault bois.
>>30123381
>literal 16-year-old memer tier humor
has ian gone too far?
>>30122533
Slavaboos and Wehraboos are basically the same to anyone that is not poor. They're just poorfags that argue over their affordable shit.
Why does /k/ always take the bait and get butthurt?
>>30112135
Jesus Christ, what's with all the Mosin hate? I thought you people loved nuggets.
>>30118920
>>30118930
These. Reliability is more than being dunked in mud.
>>30112135
It works perfectly fine. It's just that weak faggot who cannot operate the bolt because he's not /fit/ enough. Should spend more time in the gym than sucking his buddy's cock.
>>30123921
Yeah. Just that wehraboos are easier to troll because there's always the butthurt-refusal-to-acknowledge-that-Germany-lost factor. Notice this whole time I haven't argued once about "nuh-uh! mowzin iz teh bests". Mosins are fine. They're not particularly great guns, granted, but they'll throw lead all day so long as you don't go full retard and throw a fist full of mud into the working parts (coincidentally, just like most firearms that have ever been used in large scale industrialized warfare).
They're also fairly easy to produce in large quantities for mass zerg rush (see: T-34). When confronted with this fact, the wehraboo will post that same picture about "look at dem weldz, gawd daymn!" or a video like in the OP to give himself the a feeling of confidence that he's made the right decision with his dollars by going with a Mauser. What brings him back down to earth in a shooting ball of rage is the reminder that the T-34-85 frequently knocked out his beloved Tiger and the infantryman carrying a Mosin stormed Berlin.
If only we could harness this easily produced rage into an energy source...
Nobody should be surprised that a bolt action failed when filled with mud, rocks, and other aggregate. The bolt gets stuck and jammed close, that would be the case on a Mosin, Mauser, Enfield, Springfield, Krag, etc. Just as nobody should have been surprised that the M1 or M14 failed when the gunk got into the exposed op rod. There's a reason soldiers were taught to clean their guns and why it was disastrous when the Americans were not in Vietnam.
What surprised me was how well the lever action worked. What I want to see is how big of a difference the Arisaka's dust cover makes. Or something with a pump action.
>>30113613
your tears are delicious, ivan
>>30113818
the magazine wasnt feeding the next round anyhow so it still wouldnt have chmbered anything
>>30113266
I have one :)
>>30113572
Even an AR wouldn't work if that shit got into the action, kid. The only reason AR didn't fail the mudtest is because it's so tightly made. If there was room for the mud to get into the ARs mechanism, it would've jammed and failed just the same as everything else.
>>30126864
>If there was room for the mud to get into the ARs mechanism, it would've jammed and failed just the same as everything else.
it's almost as if it was designed to prevent that
>>30125933
>assmad slavboo trying to act cool
so cute
