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Say Russia's heads say "screw the military industrial complex", and invested the entire military budget into assassins.
Each assassin is invested in a billion dollars worth of tech, training, etc.
The premise is if US aligned military assets invade Russia, these assassins will kill US aligned oligarchs, senators, presidents, etc (appropriate to scale) within in the US.
Or would the billion dollars be better served just to bribe senators to lay off Russia, like the Israelis or Saudis do?
>Or would the billion dollars be better served just to bribe senators to lay off Russia, like the Israelis or Saudis do?
juvenile fantasy or something that's done in the real world, i dunno
>>30111599
you're a juvenille fucking idiot and you should be ashamed that you made this thread
that i took the time to tell you such is more than you deserve. as such you basically owe me
>>30111599
>juvenile fantasy
Assassins exist.
It's happened.
What would a competent Lee Harvey Oswald with a billion dollars of tech, training look like?
>>30111599
>A Billion dollars
>On a single soldier
Would still die to a $0.50 bullet.
>>30111599
>Russia disbands military, invests more money into spie assassins
>U.S. invades Russia with absolutely zero military resistance
>The 30 Russian spies kill a few people over a long period of time
>Too late, Russia becomes U.S.A.R.
Genuis plan for the Russians. That is to say it would be as imbecilic as pointing out my spelling after reading this sentence
>>30111599
Israel and Saudi Arabia do not bribe the US. We pay them for some damn reason.
>>30111663
>spies kill a few people
Those would be the same people behind that pushed or profited from the war.
Which would a senator care more about - a Russian jet shooting down a US jet -or- being killed at home, street, work, etc?
>>30111674
in the last counter intel course I took, it seems that an assassin with billions of dollars of training would be a worse investment than an actual agent, when it comes to tracking the damage done.
don't you watch CSI:Miami? Joke reference but serious point, forensic analysis would eventually, and within 10 years, track down every single active assassin. Meanwhile, Russia was long ago invaded and is now no longer it's own country. This means that the assassins are fighting for a country that doesn't even exist anymore. The entire premise is kind of poorly thought through. Yeah I know it's a joke thread but why are you even playing along with it
would be much cheaper to make some random no-lives to do it
>>30111673
Saudis buy a ton of US bonds knowingly losing money.
>>30111653
No, Ivan, you see, when you invest billions in single soldier enemy not shoot soldier due to fear of collapse entire global economy
> these assassins will kill US aligned oligarchs, senators, presidents, etc (appropriate to scale) within in the US.
Sounds good. War with Russia NOW.
>>30111696
Why would an invasion, or confrontation happen if the people signing off on it or push for it will PERSONALLY BE AT RISK OF DEATH?
It's better than WMD, because the civilians won't be at risk, it's the few hundred people at the top.
Granted, this hinges on the idea that an assassin can get to it's target. The main question would be, would a billion dollar assassin look like?
>>30111642
>What would a competent Lee Harvey Oswald with a billion dollars of tech, training look like?
You'll get a slightly mroe efficient Lee Harvey Oswald, but with a billion dollar's worth of Intel footprint, meaning even the CIA will have a chance to see him coming.
Meanwhile you can spend a few hundred dollars on booze, blow and hookers and get your own pet USN admiral.
>>30111717
>What would a billion dollar assassin look like?
Normal.
>>30111599
>billion dollars worth of tech
For billion dollars Russians will build a powered exosuit with lasers, jetpack and mini fridge. As for targets inside US - not government, but arsenals, nuclear silos, key components of energetic system, cyber attacks of finance system. US-wide blackout will create more damage than anything conventional military response Russian can make.
>>30111599
>Each assassin is invested in a billion dollars worth of tech, training, etc.
So Russia can afford 3 assassins?
You're retarded, OP.
We ghost squad now
>emp bullets
>adaptive camo
>mini tactical nuke
>airborne becomes a useful skill again
>>30112202
>we post relevant picture
Oh but assassins already do exist, They're called Special forces Snipers.
OP you illiterate nigger
>>30111599
Why even bother with all of this assassin business when Russia already has soldiers that could be supplied with foreign weapons and/or uniforms and sent to do all the same shit just as covertly?
>tech
Go be 14 elsewhere, watch a TED talk or something.
>>30111717
>Why would an invasion, or confrontation happen if the people signing off on it or push for it will PERSONALLY BE AT RISK OF DEATH?
Because you just killed them and rallied a bunch of people to follow his policies on impulse.
>Oh fuck they killed the guy who wanted to strike at Russia it must have been the Russians
>>30111777
Le gray man
>>30112208
Why is the heaviest armor covering her non vital areas?
>>30112228
Pretty much. With a $1bn Russia could easily enough smuggle some of its asian/hispanic looking soldiers across the mexican border and use the network of sanctuary towns to form sleeper cells.
I mean they probably do just that already, that whole stenographer spy ring showed that they still have long-term undercover agents in the states.
>>30112413
Ask blizzard. They're from Cali so they have zero clues.on how a gun or related.equipment work unless they can add spikes to it
Nothing beats a sexy girl honeypotting your ass.
Real assassins, including ones way back in the day in Japan and everywhere else. Look just like everyone else and just drop some poison in your food and you die. They look like house cleaners, like a tree trimmer, like a business man, like a delivery guy. They are better actors than the ones you see on TV because their lives depend on it.
Cool gear is for people that are in a group and are overwhelming something, not just assassinating someone.
>>30111703
Kekd
>>30112425
>smuggling easily discriminated minorities instead of normal white agents.
Nigga you wot? Learn to Spy network pleb, unless you are just some /pol/fag who gets asshurt that fellow whites are more likely of being some backstabbing traitor lying piece of shit then some brown or yellow people who'd you normally suspect.
Real Clancy of you.
>>30112413
Because muh sexism
>>30112316
I would actually be inclined to think it's whoever wants us to think it's the Russians
>>30111703
10/10
Um OP, there are already highly trained assassins in NATO, and eastern blocks. those are Special Forces operators, trained in espionage tradecraft and working for Human talent gathering, or somekind of wetwork/blackbag stuff that never comes up in news.
>>30111599
Historically most assassinations always involved hiring local talent to do the fucking job. Rarely your own guys being supersekrit soldiers.
Poisons and accidents.
Until they start looking more like this they aren't worth the investment.
>>30113637
That's because you wear tinfoil
>>30113637
Yes you're very smart
>>30111599
Seriously, if this sort of thing worked everyone would already be doing it. One person or a small team can only do so much. You bump off a head of state all you do is give his veep a promotion.
>>30111599
Why isn't he wearing any boots? What happens to his feet if he steps on a nail?
>>30111696
>don't you watch CSI:Miami?
You mean the show that defies the laws of fucking physics with its "forensic analysis"?
>serious point, forensic analysis would eventually, and within 10 years, track down every single active assassin.
Just like how there's no unsolved homicides over ten years old in the US.
I'm definitely not throwing my lot in with the lel assassins nothing personell kid bullshit, but forensics versus a well trained operative is basically a wild shot in the dark.
>>30114636
Lololol eeeeeee
>>30111717
>The main question would be, would a billion dollar assassin look like?
>>30112413
>The chest is where the heart is located.
>Suit is meant for survival and not direct contact.
I don't know man, I mean you can say the same thing about how Marines get BTFO by needle spines and 8mm bullets for wearing power armor.
>>30111696
>in the last counter intel course I took
>forensic analysis not being complete bullshit
Does not compute.
Let me guess, cop?
>>30111777
Nah, coated in platinum with the rarest gemstones and covered in high denomination bearer's bonds. That's about the only way I can see you able to spend upwards of $50 million on one guy. As for a billion? Not possible.
>Be Russian.
>Invest 100,000,000,000,000 rubles into training Ivan.
>Ivan is going to bring those American pigs down.
>Send Ivan to live among the Americans.
>Ivan gets killed in a ghetto strip club by negro and is robbed of his moneys.
>Nyet.
>>30117990
>What happens to his feet if he steps on a nail?
That's probably why he wears boots in the movie.
>>30111674
our geostrategic aims against Russia (and theirs against us) are multigenerational and not merely tied down to this-or-that senator or oligarch.
you would literally have to kill all of our federal government representatives, all of our military brass, their successors, and a good deal of our academics in military fields.
so...it's not cost effective.
>>30111599
that's stupid, killing the senators etc does not stop the military from attacking their targets.
>a billion dollars per assassin
I'm sure investing that much money into one person is not a mistake...
>>30111642
Lee Harvey Oswald.
because the LARGEST part of being a hitman/assassin is to get to a position you can get the kill shot without being noticed.
That's why ninjas were literally dressed like everyone else, used a poison dart or knife and then ran like fuck while their target either died from a lung wound or lived long enough to die from horse shit bacterial infection.
The best thing you could do is invest in a concealable long range rifle you could hide on your personage.
>>30111703
holy fuck I laughed
>>30111703
Would this work even?
>>30111673
trading agreements, ensuring stratigic alliences, intell sharing, tech sharing, etc.
Hell, in the US-Israel case, the US owns money to Israel for the Suez cannal deal.
>>30118347
>tfw you shed all over the crime scene
>>30111717
>Why would an invasion, or confrontation happen if the people signing off on it or push for it will PERSONALLY BE AT RISK OF DEATH?
>Russia starts assassinating US citizens
>US gets pissed and calls for war
They aren't going to assassinate everyone in the country
>>30111599
>The only kind of soldiers that would be worth a billion dollars investment each
>>30116110
Oh lawd, real life eversors would be hilarious. They'd get rekt but it would be incredible to just let 50 of them loose on a town
Try a couple million or some shit if you have absolute cutting edge technology and some sort of trump card. A billion? Holy shit, unless it's a prototype nanosuit with active predator camouflage, you're not going to get much use.
>>30111620
>>30111633
OK, so you guys have seriously never heard of Spetsnaz? Have a quote:
>In October 1985, specialist operators from the KGB's Group "A" (Alpha) were dispatched to Beirut, Lebanon. The Kremlin had been informed of the kidnapping of four Soviet diplomats by the militant group, the Islamic Liberation Organization (a radical offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood). It was believed that this was retaliation for the Soviet support of Syrian involvement in the Lebanese Civil War.[12] However, by the time Alpha arrived, one of the hostages had already been killed. It is alleged that through a network of supporting KGB operatives, members of the task force identified each of the perpetrators involved in the crisis; once these had been identified, the team began to take relatives of these militants as hostages. Following the standard Soviet policy of not negotiating with terrorists, some of the hostages taken by Alpha were dismembered, and their body parts sent to the militants. The warning was clear: more would follow unless the remaining hostages were released immediately. The show of force worked, and for 20 years, no Soviet or Russian officials was taken captive, until the 2006 abduction and murder of four Russian embassy staff in Iraq.
Sounds like ... uh ... you know, assassins at work.
For completeness:
>However, the veracity of this story has been brought into question. Another version says that the release of the Soviet hostages was the result of extensive diplomatic negotiations with the spiritual leader of Hezbollah, Grand Ayatollah Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah, who appealed to King Hussein of Jordan and the leaders of Libya and Iran to use their influence on the kidnappers.[13]
A funny line for those who really believe that "diplomacy" will secure 20 years of no Soviet or Russian officials taken captive.
>>30111703
nice 1 also why no puting 2 nukes at his back ? would actualy do pic related
>>30125934
Weeellll... if they were ACTUALLY Eversors, I am not so sure anything WE have would stop them, since in 40k, they're roided up maniacs with nigh-impenetrable armour and blinding reflexes, hopped up on enough combat drugs to have virtually bo limits, and a small tactical nuke that goes off when they die... but I would also like to see what would happen if you dropped an eversor on some country's leadership. Probably a PR nightmare, once the cellphone videos of eviscerations start turning up on liveleak. Eversors are notoriously indescriminate.
50 could probably wipe a country, spaced out enough.
Remember individual Eversors have killed regiments, and in one case, shut down a necron tombworld.
