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What's wrong with it?
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>>30110095
It's bulky, jams a fuck-ton, and is a bitch to clean.
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>>30110132
so what's the alternative?
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>>30110162

zis bad boy
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>>30110162
Negev. It has more recoil and is less accurate, but has a higher rof. Also only $500 more
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>>30110132
They jam a ton because most minimis are old as fuck.
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>>30110192
CS:GO joke, I like it. Good clean jokes, never a bad time for em.
I heard from a former IDF fella that the Negev is pretty damn finicky, made it seem worse than the Minimi
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>>30110200
This. It's like saying the M9 is shit just because you were issued a beat to shit one from the 80's
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>>30110192
Time to snap your own neck.
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>Based Sullivan design
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>>30110095
A bit hard to clean and sometimes link fuses together in the feed tray from the heat. Carrying 2 spare barrels is a bitch but eh, pretty common with most section support weapons.

Other than that? Not much. Bretty good.
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>>30110095

They added 7 pounds to it in the past decade.
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>>30111071
7 pounds of improvements?
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>>30111101

Most people issued an M249 won't be issued anything to mount to the rail up front, but they bolted on a pound of aluminum to replace that outdated plastic handguard that didn't weigh enough and held the bipod legs too well for DA's taste. The stock that had been designed for accurate machine gun fire from the prone position was traded out from the single piece of plastic housing a buffer assembly to a steel and aluminum monstrosity that made machine gunnery less intuitive but looked like an M4 stock so that was bitchin' (I guess). Then the stock bipod was switched out for a sturdier (heavier) bipod that still didn't allow for traverse. There wasn't anything wrong with the original, but a lot of people got the idea at some point that the only way to accurately fire the SAW was to put the stock right up to the railroad ties and push forward with all your weight, bending and snapping the legs because it wasn't made to do that.
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>>30111162

Also, they replaced the adjustable gas valve with a monolithic one that's harder to clean (easier to justify replacing on the reg?) and is set comparatively to the lowest level of the adjustable one, meaning it becomes completely useless in a field environment with high usage. I believe that's where carrying the second spare barrel came from, but I could be mistaken.
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>>30111162
>traverse
I don't know about the rest of you faggots, but I got along just fine with my m249 and an m145. The longer barrel is highly accurate, and the weight of the weapon system allows for easy positional shifts and manipulation.
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>>30110095
That nutsac pouch. I still have some because they were non serialized and armory never asked for them back.
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>>30111526
Out of the 8 SAWs we had in platoon, 6 were good and 2 sucked. Guess which type I had. Possibly the worst one ever issued. I tried to have it decommissioned, they wouldn't listen.
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>>30111573
Are those things easier on the forearm than the hardbox? That box is just like in the perfect position to slightly annoy me while not really being a problem.
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>>30112171
It doesn't really matter. The way the arm is angled doesn't really get in the way. The real gain is you're carrying 100 rounds instead of a 200 rnd drum, so -4 pounds.

Good for shoulder firing from standing. From the prone you're using bipods.
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>>30111641
Did you try to get your platoon leader to back you up?
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>>30111641

The best situation is to find a fracture on the receiver and put stress on it to make it look like it happened during firing. I never understood why asshole armorers never just turn old shit in. It doesn't cost the unit.
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>>30110192
Hell of a shotgun though
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>>30112332
>>30112410
I was pretty vocal about it.

I shoved it towards my squad leader after a range in Mojave viper. He thought I 'under performed". I told him maybe I should get issued a weapon that doesn't FTF every 20 rounds. Told him to take it and shove it up his ass. We got into a heated argument about it.

But yeah the armory took a look at it and said 'its good". Says the men that don't have to fire it.
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>>30110095
It suffers the same problem as the M60. It has a stamped receiver, has had a gorillian rounds fired through it, has been on half a dozen deployments, and has been maintained by PFC Snuffy for the past 30+ years. After ~20 years of heavy use, stamped receivers tend to fall apart. The solution is to replace the receiver. That's easy enough to do, but the Army and Marine Corps didn't because reasons.
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>>30110162
Thid maybe? Haven't looked into it much, but it seems like a good deal to me.
Ares Shrike is her name.
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>>30112463

This will sound dirty but drive a flat end screwdriver in between the spot welds on the cocking handle lever and break them apart. Claim it happened during the cycle of operations. They'll have to turn it in.
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>>30110132
>and is a bitch to clean.
It's easier to clean well than an M-16.
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>>30112532
That is dirty, but interesting. Wish I would have.

I was only a SAW gunner my first deployment and have been out for years. Advice for others tho.
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>>30110162
New ones. The jamming problem is because they've been shot to shit.
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>>30110898
Still though, people keep spewing that shit.
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>>30110162
Stoner 96?
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>>30112538
Thank you for giving me another reason to never ever buy an M-16/AR-15 derivative. As armorer I had to take down and clean hundreds of them and I can only say shit sucks.
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>>30110162
Makarov PM
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>>30110095
>US maintenance or more appropriately, complete lack thereof.
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>>30112523
The shrike will NEVER be a general issue weapon. It eats parts like candy in comparison to even stamped guns like the 249. It's not bad, it's a great weapon, it just needs a competent maintenance on a level that isn't available in a military setting.
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>>30112523
I feel like I've seen you in another thread...
are you some sort of company man?
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>>30113046
>As armorer I had to take down and clean
What kind of armorer cleans the weapons themselves? The people who're assigned them are supposed to do that.
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>>30112298
I've only ran around with one when the box loaded with blanks. Probably a lot heavier with live rounds but it really didn't seem any worse than a M16 for me but I wasn't carrying a ruck either so I can see why 4 pounds might be kind of nice since the thing is like 3xs heavier than a rifle.
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>>30110994
>ultimax
Breddy gud, but fires from a magazine. Very low recoil. 8/10 would recommend.
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Is it true you can make M249s feed from a standard M16 magazine?
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>>30110095
Not a damn thing!
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>>30113093
Nope, this is like my 5th time posting to /k/ actually, thus my limited knowledge of firearms.
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>>30114064
What other boards do you frequent?
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>>30114050
Damn she's hot bro, got any... y'know... sexy nudes of her?
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>>30112643
Too bad the marine corps has designated these as "legacy" weapons.
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>>30114050
Love those tripods, company just got them using what's left over from the afghan funds.
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>>30114000
Yes. What did you think the magwell was for, your dick?
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>>30114155
all we have left is "afghan funds" nothing but overseas contingency ops funds left. when your S8 G8 tells you theres no money for it they are generally lying or lazy
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The jamming is because the frame is sheet steel that isn't replaced frequently enough because the Army treats it like a machined receiver.

The answer is the motherfuckin LSAT.
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>>30114113
I started my own thread of her. Ctrl+f the catalog m249s
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>>30110162
Stoner is love.
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>>30110095
Can it be completely disassembled with hand tools or does it require specialized heavy machinery?

If you can't replace the receiver with hand tools, it's not modular enough.
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>>30113046
>armorer cleaning them
stalen balor
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>first time qualifying with M249 as a lil E1 at my unit
>my SAW works flawlessly but the M145 is broken
>buddies SAW splits brass in half every 3 rounds
>literally pulling peices of brass out of the recoil spring
>every malfunction POPS wont work so have to reload it
>squad leader tells me im gonna qual with that SAW and the broken M145 since im secondary SAW gunner
>i get a broken SAW with a broken M145
>quickly learn fuck that shit, start walking rounds on target
>180 round belt gone before the qual ends
>they give me 3 180 round belts and keep alibying me
>scored expert on SAW qual

That particular SAW had broken feeder paws. It's been fixed now and is currently in Afghanistan with the unit.

Also, my unit gets Mk48's and those things are FUCKING LOVELY. However, at 3lb per 100 rounds the ammo is so fucking heavy it's a bitch. The MK48 itself feels lighter than a SAW though.
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>>30114566
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llEWrL9ghyg

>all that dust
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>>30114629
Looks pretty normal to me. That guy's probably fucking happy he got to waste lead like that. You don't want to come back with even half the ammo you SP with. That shit is just terrible.
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>>30114701
I wonder if a linear compensator would help with the dust kickup?
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>>30114566
>3 lb/100 rnd
>heavy

My heart bleeds for you. As a 240 AG I go nowhere without a minimum 300 rounds personally, and that's 7lb per belt.
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>>30114796
You realize that MK48 and M240 use the same fucking belts right? So either my number is fucked up or yours is.
And Ohhh NOOO 300 rounds of 7.62? With the MK48 (Same as the SAW) you carry upwards of 1,000 rounds. What a stud you are.
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>>30114835
Thank you for your service.
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>>30114835
Yours is. Such a badass you can't do gun math 101, wew.

Unfortunately, I am not a badass and thus don't carry 70 pounds of ammo on top of my personal load and tripod and barrel bag with spare barrels and ammo.
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>>30114160
n-no haha
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>>30115118
>he actually brings the tripod and spare barrels

HAHAHAHAHAH
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