So we know SPR was all wrong, so what would the first wave at Omaha have really been like?
Hell.
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>>30106653
The only thing I didn't really like was how the defenses were made out, the fuckhuge bunker thing looked autistic as hell. Nothing like this on Omaha
>>30106697
I didn't like how it portrayed the Allies as good guys.
>>30106743
>Shows two Germans/Czechs get executed while trying to surrender
>America made out to be the good guys
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1960/11/first-wave-at-omaha-beach/303365/
>>30106653
pretty much as the film depicts, it's the rest of it thats wrong.
>>30106743
>>30106743
there's one in every thread.
>>30106743
You ever see the longest day?
A much much longer beach. The carriers would land much further away. Not so many people would be getting shot up in their boats.
Much slower sense of progress. The actual battle took hours, a good chunk of the day. I think the film is accurate when it shows things slowing down significantly at the seawall. There would be a good chunk of people there waiting for other landing waves to come in. A few tanks would be there.
No giant pillboxes. Obstacles facing the right way. Belgian gates + hedgehogs
Otherwise I think it's pretty accurate.
>>30106653
in the last thread someone mentioned the Rangers used different landing craft, though I don't remember which or why.
>>30106792
>http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1960/11/first-wave-at-omaha-beach/303365/
Here are the after action reports SLA Marshall used;
>116th Infantry Regiment, 1st Battalion, A Company - Group Critique Notes
http://www.29infantrydivision.org/WWII-Documents/29th_Division-116th_Regiment-1st_Bn-A_Company-Group_Critique_Notes.html
>116th Infantry Regiment, 1st Battalion, B Company - Group Critique Notes
http://www.29infantrydivision.org/WWII-Documents/29th_Division-116th_Regiment-1st_Bn-B_Company-Group_Critique_Notes.html
>116th Infantry Regiment, 1st Battalion, D Company - Group Critique Notes
http://www.29infantrydivision.org/WWII-Documents/29th_Division-116th_Regiment-1st_Bn-D_Company-Group_Critique_Notes.html
>>116th Infantry Regiment, 1st Battalion, C Company - Group Critique Notes
http://www.29infantrydivision.org/WWII-Documents/29th_Division-116th_Regiment-1st_Bn-C_Company-Group_Critique_Notes.html
Also some personal accounts: http://www.29infantrydivision.org/WWII-Stories/Index.htm
>>30108504
Three glasses
>>30106839
>nicht meine fräulein
>>30106653
Hard to tell exactly because almost all signal corps film, including from fixed cameras mounted to some of the landing craft, was lost. The officer who had been ordered to collect it for transportation to London dropped the duffel bag of film overboard.
There's evidence that a 38-minute uncensored report of combat camera footage, produced by the OSS to be shown to Churchill, Stalin, and Roosevelt, did indeed exist but it has since never been found.
https://unwritten-record.blogs.archives.gov/2014/09/09/the-first-d-day-documentary/
>>30109197
Why'd he dump the footage overboard? Something he or his superiors didn't want high command to see?
>>30109214
Accidentally when climbing up the ropes to board whatever ship that was taking him to London.
Pic related, his orders to collect it the film.
>>30109214
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRohPHLHeLI&feature=youtu.be&t=4
>>30106772
It's war there are no good guys. History just favors the winner.
>>30109499
Deep
SPR got many things wrong, but the beach scene was fairly accurate.
The first wave ashore was chewed up incredibly badly, something like 50% of the first wave on Omaha was dead or incapacitated by the time the second wave hit.
It does progress it a lot faster. It took 4 hours for any real progress to be made instead of the 4 minutes you see in the film. Once the seawall was breached and the first line overwhelmed more pockets opened up and eventually the German defenders were completely overwhelmed as they were encircled and taken out by these breaching units.
The beach itself was significantly longer, about 5 times as long as portrayed in the films at least. Part of the reason it took the troops so long to breach the seawall was they had to get to it under such heavy fire over such open ground. But had the beach been shorter then entire squads full of men would have been gunned down as soon as the ramps dropped.
