Would my level 3a mask stop a 223?
>>30105191
IIIA doesn't stop rifle rounds
try it
>>30105191
>he doesn't watch Matt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7W6qhNktiU
How the fuck do you breathe in that, OP?
>>30105256
That is not a problem. The problem is that any shot to the face can break your neck.
>>30105335
"What are physics?!" - The Post
>>30105233
I guess I would rather be shot with the mask on?
I don't know I'm sure those months or years of recovery would be worth it?
>>30105233
>shilling zombie survival guide
dropped
>>30105191
You should hang yourself with that Condor gear you bought too while wearing that mask.
>current year
>wasting ammo money on stupid shit.
>>30105335
No. That is a dumb statement. Go away.
>gets shot in eye holes
>>30105233
>.40 goes through eyehole and kills the dummy
>other caliber fags on suicide watch
>>30105233
why in the world wouldnt these come with replacable ballistic lenses? buckshot would still fucking blind or disable you, hell birdshot would ruin your day
>>30105191
a .223. come at me with that thing on it will be 30 .223.
>>30105191
wear two of them faggot.
>>30105357
not understanding satire
2/10 if bait
>>30106517
>Not just wearing 5 or 7 stacks of my pic with holes on it instead.
It's like you have a death wish.
>>30105735
Because I assume you can wear your goggles over the mask, Which is more flexible then having built in lenses.
>>30105191
I'm almost certain there are IV masks in existence but for some reason nobody uses them
>>30105498
>proving that shot placement is all that matters
>>30105256
You don't. Which is why nobody actually uses those things in the field. They look hardcore in photo-ops so you'll occasionally see South American cops, airsofters and Stormfags wearing them but nobody is running up flights of stairs and getting into gunfights while wearing one.
>>30107190
Weight I'd imagine. Strap a five pound barbel to your face
>>30107474
What if we combine your picrelated with a slav helmet like that?
>>30107511
I wonder if a combat helmet with the intergrated possibility of a ballistic mask (to reduce impact on face/spread carry weight over whole head) would make them more popular
>>30105226
>While wearing it
And don't you pretend that wasn't an important part to leave out either, mister.
>>30107558
it'd be a step better version of this
>>30105191
Nope. Look up helmet ballistics tests. The helmet performs wonderfully against every round it is rated for, then the tester invariably pulls out a rifle and the rounds go straight through it, doesn't even phase the bullet.
.223 would fly right through that mask and kill you. You'd be much better off without it so you can move quickly enough to not be in a shooters sights at all.
>>30107558
fuck it. low hanging fruit. fixed it. Save it before it's gone.
>>30105191
>Those things stopping anything above a 45acp
You'd probably be fucked if hit with a 223 but I'd were one, they look tacticool as fuck.
Here is a Taiwanese squad looking edgy.
>>30105191
>>30109619
Police vests wont stop rifle rounds, will sail right through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-iDguioxV8
>>30105335
Because the neck isn't flexible and your body is being held in a vice. And all the energy definitely gets transferred directly to your head.
>>30107587
The slavs have made helmets that can stop rifle rounds and even AP rounds with some kind of neck protection that removes the heavy burden.
Pic not related.
And then there is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGC4NtyPDUQ
>>30109696
>it's a shitty airshit mask
lel
>>30108556
This is great, you'll live long enough to experience being bludgeoned to death by bullets.
>>30105335
>The problem is that any shot to the face can break your neck.
read a book fgt
>>30107474
>no tactical straw
what the hell /k/?
![DIVING-HELMET_zps80d19146[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EGpJdHT.jpg "DIVING-HELMET_zps80d19146[1].jpg")
>>30105191
no, get one of these instead but replace the glass with transparent aluminum
>>30111419
>tfw we're big daddy now
>>30108624
it should say
>Experience life in Slav-Vision(TM)!
>Now in full 180p HD 3-D!
>>30105735
the mask doesnt offer good ventilation so lens would fog
How deep are your Pockets? What do you plan to do with it? What will you be fighting as such close quarters that you are in need of it? Face protection has many downsides but only 2 ballstic face platforms are even viable to field use. each costs around 500 usd and require proprietary helmets that cost around 900 usd so when everything said & done you have a 3000 usd helmet that will stop rifle rounds ( SLAAP armor). PROJECT SARIS purpose to to provide the best armor platform in existence to battle things that lurk... demons, jihadists, you name it. I will not post manufacturers nor will i post ITAR controlled manuals. But just out of curiosity why are there so many tactical storm soft faggots buying this shit?! when professionals need this for there OPS?!
also APPLES ARE GOOD FOR YOU :P
>>30108556
>Not putting your cheek on your gun
>Restricting vision to two holes
>Weighing 60 more lbs
>Losing movement freedom by being a fucking marshmellow
>Only true protection is still your center of mass
There's a reason you don't see juggernauts in swat or the military
SLAAP plates run about 700 usd and can take about 5 hits before failure with little to no neck trauma from a 7.62 x 39 API so 5.56 at 100 meters should protect you,however it is not RATED for that but velocity defeats armor, then the kinetic energy finishes you off.
OPS CORE is the only system that allows open ventilation, check welding, along with decent horizontal fov. You need training and intimate knowledge of pouch placement due to the posts above talking about FOV you will be restricted to bone conduction comms 99% of the time if you can even afford that. The gunsight maniable that I own is like wearing a hybrid dirt bike helmet that hugs your face its comfortable but very enclosed if you are claustrophobic I would seriously recommend you put your money into solutions for different applications...
>>30105191
Maybe it could stop a single round but your face would be fucked after it.
>>30109706
This dubstep music is annoying as fuck. And while the helmet may stop the round, look how hard the dummy's head gets dented in. Would wreck your fucking skull.
well you'd be dead other wise.. and besides we are all ugly anyway if you are in this field of work lol. That's assuming you're not a poser who only owns toy guns...
But eh whatever airsoft has its place, mostly for the NVG training that it provides and is the only sport that allows me to test things in a controlled environment with REAL people shooting back. The other alternative is SIMUNITIONS, live fire drills in the middle of nowhere on STATIONARY steel plates...
I sure miss my bros back in guam Simulations was fun in the air force...
>>30105335
The problem is you being a fucking idiot.
>>30111584
>Not putting your cheek on your gun
riser-stock was invented just for that.
>restricting vision to two holes
make circles with your thumb and index finger, and put them on your eyes like goggles. Now, are they that obscuring?
Not to mention you can still fairly easily move around, just not run too comfortably. The overall weight is no higher than an average full gear soldiers carry on marches.
Those are also great points to add to this informative conversation! :D But I think this posters mistake above is that he did not do his reasearch nor have the experience to identify what works & what doesn't, before purchasing a questionable product that is made or sponsored in china... Those masks have shit Quality Control, Shit breathing, incompatible with most ballistic eye pro, incompatible with helmets. It's literally 1990s tech and it's far to primitive face protection for modern warfare in my honest opinion.
>>30111835
>ABU uniforms
>ACU vests
what is this even?
>>30105191
According to their own website it'll stop up to .44 magnum, so I'm guessing no. Why in the fuck did you not just read the description of the mask before you bought it?
It was just a picture of my simunitions training over at anderson AFB. the abu IOTVS are the gen 2's hence ABUwith ACU. It also verifies ID tags in the posted photos. TO verify I HAVE experience with armor and armor carriers involving "TACTICS" .
>>30111946
Please explain why he is wrong. Bullets have a lot of energy
>>30112141
Welcome to teh Air Force lol.
>>30113340
Where seeing is believing and you better pick the right afsc or you fuck yourself for your enlistment... Also join the army they have uniforms that WORK. Air force is out of money and is neutered both strategically and socially thanks to the sexual harassment hate speech briefings all thanks to our "HONORABLE" defense secretary! :D
>searching for this online
>can't find level IV, only IIIa
Damn it.
>>30111545
Hillary will stack the court and will take away the guns, period.
>>30113458
You could ask a direct manufacturing firm to custom make you one that's in the ceramic plate business. Most will refuse to make you one due to liability and cost ...
>>30113482
minus - 2 on your fishing good sir
>>30105335
Not unless you're shot with a fucking cannon it won't.
And if you're shot in the head with a cannon, broken neck is going to be the least of your problems.
>>30113317
>Bullets have a lot of energy
No they don't. They have surprisingly little.
Also the transfer is imperfect, the neck is flexible, and the spinal column is much stronger than you think. Bet you think that movie thing where you can break a neck by just twisting it a little with your hand is real too.
/r/ing the promo picture of those operator sunglasses that can handle #6 shot
>>30113533
Sadly 99% of most people on ar15, afcom, and get off the X are so incompetent and ignorant THAT is exactly what most average people think. Until you do the science grab a pack of G force Impact Indicators, ballistics gel, and make the 1000$ sacrifice for science...
Then watch them call it fact and disprove it
>>30109706
Would want to see shooting tests of the helmet in your pic or any other russian full face masks.
>>30114365
agreed post it on youtube and link it here like a boss
>>30105335
This is the same guy that thinks you can walk up behind someone and break their neck like Steven Seagulllll
>>30105191
put it on and have a buddy shoot you with their AR. Find out for sure.
>>30109619
They all probably took it off right after the parade.
>>30105437
>doesn't wear helmet
>Gets shot in face
Never got the point of these posts. It adds additional protection, but we don't have power armor like Fallout 4, a walking tank. Hell, even if we did, people would still point out that you could get shot in a tendon in your ankle
>>30113317
Even assuming you were shot with something fairly potent like a 30-06, your head would hardly be moving.
11g @ 800m/s vs. 8000g @ 0m/s
Assuming inelastic collision..
The head would be moving at 1,1m/s.
why not just put a solid piece in front of the mask so you could have holes to breathe under it?
Like so:
\ Mask begins
0| Eye hole
\ Slope begins
#\ Mouth hole (#) and slope continues
/ Slope stops, leaving open space to breathe
I know, my ASCII art is amazing
