>Great great Grandpa marches with Sherman
>kills dirty traitors along the way
Feels good man.
I'm sorry, but unless you'd like to discuss the finer points of arson as a military tool, this would be better suited to /his/ or /pol/.
That said, we should shell Vicksburg again just for the hell of it.
>traitors
>for excercising a right
yankees are delusional, that being said sherman was a shitty general and all he knew how to do was burn things down and kill innocents.
and look at what the nor*herners have made the US into.
sage
>>30098707
dude we should build trump's wall at the mason-dixon line
>>30098715
Second post best post
>>30098707
>>30098798
Yankees go home
Leave us alone
You don't like us
And we don't like you
Lets be apart
So that one equals two
>>30098715
Let's just ignore that the south shot first.
>>30098700
Here is your (you)
>>30098948
somebody has to show the yanks that free people wont go quietly
now fuck off to your bernie rally yankee dog
>>30098959
No one likes a sore loser.
>>30098715
>a shitty general
>won the war
if it is stupid and it works, it ain't stupid.
Sorry you wanted to be a backwater farming swamp, sorry we fixed that for you.
(I'm not actually sorry)
>>30098972
almost 200 years later and poortherners are still obsessed, if you hate us so much then why not let us go I mean southerners are all inbred racist uneducated trailer trash bigots after all. why would you fine upstanding prestegious northerners want to be associated with conservative bigots?
>>30098959
Why would I vote for Bernie when Gary Johnson still exists?
>>30098982
>we
cringed
>>30098989
Your words, not mine. Also, I consider the south to be the spoils of war.
>>30098989
>he gets hate and brotherly ribbing confused
South confirmed for unable to 1. handle bantz 2. Win a war.
>>30098972
do worry we got ours, alot of yankees died during the reconstruction. Carpet baggers and scalawags alike.
>>30099007
>i consider the excercise of a right and the murder of innocents to be the spoils of war
how yankee of you
>>30099019
*dont worry
>>30099012
>MUUUUH BAAAAANTER
no yankee dog is my brother and itll stay that way
>>30099019
They shoulda ducked anyhow.
>>30099022
:^)
>>30098700
Your great great gramps was probably born in the 1880s you literal retard
>>30099038
You many feel however you wish, but I'm afraid it really doesn't matter, my war losing brother.
I don't even care about Sherman as a general, I just like that he pisses off the Dixie fags.
Anyone know where Sherman is buried? I want to load up on fried chicken and take a shit on his grave
>>30098989
You're all free to go wherever. It's the land you can't have.
>>30099131
yeah dude fuck states rights one world government now im a citizen of earth fuck borders
>>30098948
Fucker, I was born in New Jearsey and was raised in Connecticut, and even I know that Lincoln antagonized the fuck out of the South.
>>30098972
Southern culture is founded on Civil War butthurt. That's just how it is.
My great-great-great grandpa actually did fight in Sherman's army. Must've been something he was proud about seeing as it says "He fought with Sherman to the sea" on his tombstone. 2nd Minnesota Infantry Sept. 1864 to July 1865.
>>30099142
You say that like humanity being united is a bad goal.
>Great great Grandpa marches with Sherman
> Destroys the constitution
>>30099155
I'm just poking the badger for fun.
>>30099163
oh shit you're right looks like im a #hillacopter now
>>30099185
Lol, a what?
>>30099172
I can't seem to find that city on any map. Is Constitution in Georgia, South Carolina, or North Carolina?
>>30099158
What cemetery is your commie grampa in? I'd love to thank him for his service.
>>30099155
Doesn't change the fact that the south fired the first shot.
>>30098700
>>30099158
How do you know your family that far back? My records end with my grandparents parents in the 1910's
>>30099218
If I lost to an arsonist and a drunk I guess I'd be bitter too. I'll try to be more empathetic in the future.
>>30098989
>poortherners
Do I need to break the HDI map out again, Cletus?
>>30099218
>Being butthurt over something that happened 4 generations ago
Grow up, Johnny
>>30099244
My maternal family came here to the states from Trier during the German labor riots in the 1840's. Basically they lived in the same small town until my grandpa moved to the city to find a job as a machinist. I found a lot of records on them in storage at the town hall/ library.
>Ancestor rode with Quantrill
>slotted negro floppies and Yankees till he was killed in Lexington, Missouri
Feels the best, man.
>most of the people in this thread didnt even have an ancestor that fought in the civil war
let that soak in for a moment.
>>30099303
And so fucking what?
at the end of the day you lost cletus i may be a 2nd gen immigrant but its as much my history as it is yours.
>>30098798
Good idea. Let's keep those yanks out.
>>30099244
We have some records in his service and a lot of heirlooms. Ill try and see if I can find that rifle.
>>30098700
What was with generals and putting their hands in their coats? I mean I get that it's a tradition but what was with that?
>>30098700
>great great uncle has a statue dedicated to him
>>30099345
>mfw the only people that want to live in the south are retiring boomers
>>30098707
>dresden abloo bloo bloo
>>30099244
My grandpa went to City hall to get his dad's Military records. if your family has lived in the same place for more than a few generations, you can find a lot of stuff.
>>30098700
>Great grandfather was in the SS
>that's all I know other then he still had shrapnel in him when he died.
>>30099363
Nice
>>30099332
this is bait
>>30099369
I want to live in the south. I want to live in far southern Georgia in a shack so no one will bother me ever.
>>30099369
>implying
The Coastal Southern states are getting swamped by migrants because of the booming technology centers.
You can see this prominently in places like NC and Virginia.
It's fucking horrible.
>Dad's family were all filthy freedom hating yankees
>Mom's family were all uppity racist confederates
>Both families had people fight in the Civil War
>I could join reenactment groups focused on either side by tracing my ancestry back
>Double agent as fuck
>>30099381
Did he fall out of a guard tower?
My grandfather was shot for fucking the corpse of an SS who fell out a guard tower.
>>30099361
Most generals copied the pose from Napoleon I, who in turn copied it from Roman statues of senators and other great statesmen. The classic pose had one arm gathering up the toga and the other pointing or gesturing, but as Napoleon and his imitators had no toga to gather, they tucked the hand into their uniform.
>>30099332
>its as much my history as it is yours.
>2nd gen immigrant
No it doesn't, spic
t. American descended from soldiers that fought on both sides of the war
>>30099487
>not having blood from the only correct side
Yankee fucking SCUM need to stop pretending they belong in america, my ancestors took great joy in gutting your men and fucking your women.
>>30099393
Fuck off we're full.
>>30099412
Did he shoot a hot load of shrapnel into him?
Kinky
>>30099516
I think you have it the other way around Billy Bob, Sherman ran wild through the south pillaging and conquering in every sense of the word.
>>30099516
>correct side
>surrendered to a drunk
Lol
>>30099565
To be fair everyone was probably a drunk back then, just had more class about it
>>30099404
>>I could join reenactment groups focused on either side by tracing my ancestry back
Wait...Are you saying which side you are on during reenactments is based on which side your ancestors were on?
Andersonville sure was a wild place to party, my Carpetbagging Anon.
It'd be a shame if we got around to opening it again.
>>30099597
You're probably right. I just figure Grant was worse seeing as people always brought it up.
>>30099613
There's getting liquored up when there's not much to do.
And then there's Grant
>>30099599
It's pretty common for reenactment groups to do that, yeah
>>30099541
Please I'm a gun addicted Oklahoman.
I'll make food if you let me stay.
>>30099600
>Carpetbagging
>Bad
All is fair in love, war, and Capitalism.
>>30099643
Make gumbo and beef wellington
>>30099646
>being a jew in the worst way humanly possible
>not bad
>>30099656
> not Jambalaya and pulled pork.
You gotta make it worthwhile.
>>30099673
Fuck it. Stay on okla.
>>30099662
How is carpetbagging Jewish? I thought only banking and ursery was Jewish.
>>30099686
>okla.
>rhymes with Okra.
God damn i could go for some fried okra right about now.
>>30099725
Enjoy your plant jizz nigga
>>30099719
>going out of your way to financially gain from the misery that was the post war south
>not about as jewish as ashtrays
>>30099656
I'm the Okie. I'll BBQ and give you a toothy blowjob if you give me a little tiny shack with Internet connection in the middle of nowhere
>>30099764
You eat eggs, right?
Unfertilized eggs are just chicken menstruation
>>30099781
>as Jewish as ash trays
I have to admit, thats a good one.
But in all seriousness, if there is a service or product needed no matter what caused it, why should I not profit off supplying what is needed
>>30099791
but do they taste like chicken blood?
...honestly, do they? I've never tasted chicken blood I don't have a point of reference
>>30098989
>Northerners are the ones obsessed with the war.
Sure.
>>30099963
Chicken blood will have the same metallic taste of any other red blooded vertebrate
>>30098700
You're a lucky fucker /k/omrade
"You people of the South don't know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it … Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth — right at your doors. You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane. If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail."
Furthermore:
"The South began the war by seizing forts, arsenals, mints, custom-houses, etc., etc., long before Mr. Lincoln was installed, and before the South had one jot or tittle of provocation. I myself have seen in Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Mississippi, hundreds and thousands of women and children fleeing from your armies and desperadoes, hungry and with bleeding feet. In Memphis, Vicksburg, and Mississippi, we fed thousands and thousands of the families of rebel soldiers left on our hands, and whom we could not see starve. Now that war comes to you, you feel very different."
In conclusion, fuck the South.
>>30099192
kek
>>30099303
>mfw my family had people on both sides of the war
The south would've taken over central and south America too.
So instead of having a shit ton of subservient Hispanics, near endless resources and high probability that most of the excess niggers would've been shipped off to some cesspool like Liberia we have a shit ton of welfare leeches bleeding the nation dry and raping our women and race out of existence.
>Muh union dindu nuffin wrong
>Muh union str-stronk
Union defenders are literal cuckstains who can't stop swallowing the BBC.
>>30102367
I'm sorry, how exactly does anything you said make any sense at all?
ITT we rejoice at the death of the Yeoman farmer and the start of share cropping of blacks and whites.
/k/, I love you. But these threads are always a great disappointment.
>>30102402
Learn how to read you stupid fucking cuntrag piece of shit, maybe you'll fucking get some knowledge in that corn silo you call a brain instead of walking around making everyone feel too awkward because they think you're fucking outright retarded but they're too afraid of offending you to ask if you are or not.
>>30098715
Get fucked, traitor.
>>30102463
I'm not offended I'm just not sure about the reasoning behind that slavery would go away after a war is fought for it and the already cash strapped south would export blacks to Africa.
Both sides had plans to send them back and both sides realized that it was a terrible idea.
>>30102458
In the South maybe but that was already turning up sharecropping before the war due to shitty land management practices. The West was where the nation was made.
Get fucked war losers
>>30102520
This is true, but the war traces its roots back to the expansion of slavery into the West.
The death of the Yeoman farmer goes beyond the reach of the South. The North had its own issues with immigrants being treated as second class citizens, and rampant expansion of cronyism. Just a decade after the war the political machine took over. Made up of industrialists that made their wealth over the profits of the war.
People though the plantation owners were bad, but they were just replaced with overzealous buisnessmen.
There was no real winner of the war, the North just loss less than the South.
>>30098982
>"Haha look at those backwards southerners us Yanks are truly a bastion of civilization"
Why is it okay for what would become the north to want independence, but the south isn't allowed? I never understood this.
>>30098700
>supporting a war criminal involved in the treasonous War of Northern Aggression against the sovereign government of the Confederate States of America.
We won't forget when the War of Southern Retribution begins.
>>30099600
CAMP DOUGLAS. ELMIRA. UNION EXTERMINATION CAMPS.
Andersonville was a prisoner of war camp that suffered from supply shortages due to Union terrorists intentionally damaging rail lines.
BIG. FUCKING. DIFFERENCE.
Notice how the textbooks won't even talk about the Union Extermination Camps, and how the Yankee government hides them to this day while propping up Andersonville as a fucking national memorial. It's a goddamn disgrace.
>>30102617
I live 20 minutes from Point Lookout.
The memory of them is still alive and well.
>>30099163
Looks like someone never read any history ever. Until everyone has the exact same problems absolutely everywhere and we stop being decisive predatory beings, then maybe.
>>30099131
Have fun starving I guess
>>30102572
the plantation owners were just businessmen at the crux of it, had the South managed to hold out and assuming they could have been able to rout Sherman's march they would still have a small upper class of planters, a now decimated small farmer middle class and a wide majority of people who fought, lost a lot and now have nothing to show for it. Honestly think that the CSA would have collapsed and reabsorbed anyway and that would have been better as a whole for the nation than Reconstruction.
>>30098700
I honor his service.
>>30102599
>War of Southern Retribution
How exactly does the South plan on pulling that off, considering that out of the 11 ex-Confederate states, 7 of them are in the top 15 of states with highest obesity rates.
No matter what, cool story, Confedershitter
>>30102617
>camp douglas was an extermination camp
lol wut? It's a shit one if there was a 85% of prisoners walked away?
>being mad about total war
Sherman is overrated by euphoric Yankees but he was 100% right in war is hell.
>>30102683
We're just going to give the Mexicans citizenship in exchange for military service, except we'll make the US give them citizenship in the peace agreement and ship them to Detroit.
>>30102660
It should have never had come to war in the first place. Both the North and the South are to blame for that. But you do make an interesting point, what would have happened if Sherman was routed and Richmond was able to hold out?
The CSA's only hope for survival would have been international trade, and hopefully Shenandoah could recover.
But it would have collapsed, and that would have been far better than Radical Reconstruction.
>>30102690
>Sherman is overrated by euphoric Yankees but was 100% right in war is hell.
Fucking this
>>30098700
So your great great grandfather liked to go around burning down farmlands amd kill random southerners that weren't exactly in the army but just trying to survive on their land and as well stole people's belongings.
Okay.........
Dumbasses that think the Yankees are the good guys and the confederates are the badguys should know one thing that is still carried on out to today's life.
The yankee states have extreme gun control laws and the confederate states have extreme pro gun rights and that still applies today.
Unless you like defending your yankee states go right ahead.
Your gonna need a permit to buy ammo soon or need to go through the trouble to own at least a bastardized AR15 just like Connecticut and New York.
>T-the civil war was fought for muh states rights to c-choose whether they wanted slavery!
>What is bleeding Kansas
>T-THEY WUZ GOOD BOYS WHO DID NUFFIN WRONG
>>30102463
This is the single most defensive thing I have ever seen.
Question guys, it's great watching yanks and southerners duke it out on /k/, but as a first gen west coast fag, where does the west coast stand in this? Who do we cheer for? Or do we come kick both yo asses?
JP I don't want civil war I love America that's why I came here. America has a bigger destiny than fragmenting. The world is ours to rule over and we do that by remaining strong not fighting ourselves.
>>30102870
You fucking stay where you are and watch your beaner parents get deported.
I just wanna point out how badass of a name "Tecumseh" is
>>30102911
not beaner, german/hungarian. I identify as an American though.
>>30102931
Oh. Still stay there, it's pretty nice except for the liberals.
>>30102870
West Coast was nothing but a couple squabbling communities rolling the dice all or nothing on gold mining and plenty of people who wanted to steal wht little they had. They had their own problems to worry about.
>>30102915
Look up the man behind the bame. He makes Sherman look like a pansy
look at blacks today
Thats what they fought for
To have a population of 40 million animals living as leechs on our tax dollars/businesses
Destroying whole cities, destroying politics since they vote 99% for democrats, destroying the legal system, destroying all public or private institutions through forced integration
etc
>>30103025
They for every man in this country to be free. There's a lot that happened between 1865 and 2016 that turned the African American into a plague ridden shithole.
>>30098959
>free people
>talks about rights and freedoms while keeping slaves
Stay deluded, dixie
>>30098700
>muh heritage
>muh bragging about things that happened 150 years ago that I had absolutely no part in
Pathetic.
t. aussie shitposter
>>30102724
>what are the spoils of war
>that retarded pic
The difference between the Revolutionary War and Civil War is that the United States had become increasingly foreign to GB and was taxed without representatives in Parliament. The South got ass blasted because a 3rd party candidate put Lincoln in office.
>>30104576
Its just something to stir shit.
>>30098715
Traitors should've all been hung to be honest
>>30104460
>niggers
>people
And we're deluded? The word you're for is Delusional, not deluded.
>>30105029
>southern white trash
>people
Cletus and Jamal both deserve rights. If they fuck up it's their own fault, but to hold down whole groups of people because some fuck up is the same kind of retarded preemptive group punishment as gun control and NFA.
>implying there aren't fine negro gentlemen out there
>implying there aren't fine southern gentlemen out there
>>30105168
>muh white trash
Even the worst "white trash" are less violent and more able to adapt to society than your average nigger.
>implying there aren't fine negro gentlemen out there
I never did, you can find the one in twenty niggers with an IQ and ability to function in society as your average white or asian person, doesn't mean as a whole that niggers aren't much more than bipedal and vocal animals.
>>30098700
>Great great Grandpa rides with Forrest.
>kills filthy invading nigger scum all over west TN
Feels good man.
>>30099001
>Gary Johnson
He's not really even that great from a fiscal point of view. Look into his record for yourself, but he extremely bloated New Mexico's government and "balanced the books" in name only due to a state loophole about reporting state debt. He favors regulating firearms from a federal level and is "open to the argument." He is a huge social liberal and WILL remove constitutional rights from religious groups. He's also big into marijuana legalization, which I could go either way on, but he only is into legalization because he's invested heavily in the private/medicinal marijuana market.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435704/gary-johnson-libertarian-party-2016-conservatives
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435804/gary-johnson-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-election-2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58xP9PHekMU&feature=youtu.be&t=1108
>>30102526
Get fucked statist communist anti-2nd Amendment anti-individual liberties anti-property rights anti-states rights anti-agriculture anti-Constitution yankee nigger lover.
>Did I miss anything?
>>30102752
>What is Harper's Ferry Raid?
>What were "Beecher's Bibles"?
>What is the Pottawatomie massacre?
Answer those yankee faggot.
And what was Bleeding Kansas you ask? Northern abolitionists invading territory where slavery was legal and acting like spoiled, entitled little bitches until they realized the territorial government wouldn't be swayed and Congress was unable to assist them. So like typical yankees, they murdered and pillaged and burned.
>>30102870
In the idealogical/philosophical arguments revolving around the Civil War, you have two choices:
>1. The ideal of States' Rights and the constitutional premise of the 10th Amendment. The federal government had/has no right to regulate the slave trade because the Constitution does not give it that right. Also, that States have the right to secede when the federal government no longer serves the best interests of that states citizens.
>2. As the Constitution is technically silent on the exact apparatus of secession, the federal government has the responsibility to keep & hold all states and territories in the Union. Also that based on some vague moral supremacy, the Federal government can ad hoc regulate & abolish intrastate commerce, such as slavery.
In terms of the actual events of the Civil War, you can really only side with/sympathize the South. The North butchered Southern civilians. Plain and simple. There's no exaggeration to it. Northern born posters on /k/ may like to post memes and Sherman pictures, but burning cities and offing civilians is a no-no in war.
>>30103025
>>30103043
FACT: The black man between 1865 and 1965 actually did very well for himself, considering he was considered human cattle prior to 1863. Modern problems in black America started with Lyndon Johnson and the progressive liberal Democratic economic policies of the 1960s.
Democrats destroyed blacks in America because they wanted a dedicated voting block that would be loyal forever while simultaneously not asking for very much, except for entitlement programs.
Blame liberals, whether they be Democrat or Republican.
Read or listen to Thomas Sowell.
>>30104998
You know its funny, King George and Parliament thought the same thing.
Get fucked yankee.
>>30105840
>chattel
FTFY
>>30105652
>all of those words together still matter less than the word "loser"
>>30105869
Rather a loser who fought for Constitutional principles, than a winner who was just a yankee dog. Hope that Federal leash is comfortable.
>>30105896
I live in the South though.
Enjoy losing.
>>30105868
Welfare = voting slavery
>>30105907
>I live in the South though.
Than you're more of a joke than I realized.
>>30105908
I wasnt disagreeing with you, just chattel makes more sense then cattle
>>30105919
I know. I was just clarifying the connection. The average summer fag may not know what chattel slavery was.
>>30102588
America loves a winner.
>>30105918
I'm also a Democrat voter and live in a swing state.
>>30105956
Jesus Christ you are the biggest joke in America.
>>30105867
And if they had WON, they'd have been right.
See how this works?
>>30105971
>mfw I'm a second generation carpetbagger
>mfw I know people that use Motherjones as their primary news source, and millionaire lawyers that raise funds for Obama
>mfw Ken Cuccinelli got wrecked
>it took 2 million live Yanks and half a million dead ones to invade an agricultural based society.
Lel. no wonder half the US military's recruits come from redneck land
>>30105168
>Cletus and Jamal both deserve rights.
?
Why does the black "deserve" rights? Who says that? Do you think the founding fathers would have agreed?
>>30106116
FACT: In the 1780s, when the first rumblings of anti-slavery northern delegates to the Constitutional Convention began to try to morally legislate away property rights, the numbers of slaves in the north were around 50,000 (over 150,000 if you count Maryland as Northern). In an increasingly non-agricultural society.
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