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So what does K think of the mini 14? Is it stupid that I am thinking about getting a mini 14 tactical instead of an ar15 (Don't have a raifu yet.)
>YFW Wal-Mart stopped selling 'skeery black guns' but still sell Mini 14s
>>30087298
I work at a Walmart and our best seller is the one HD shotgun we still carry
Black scariness And ll
>>30087298
Walmart near me still sell ar15s. Maybe Texas is just cool like that.
Mini 14s are very underrated. They are easily on par with any other tactical rifle on the market. Personally I like minis more than ARs.
>>30087275
There is nothing wrong with the mini 14, I just don't think they are worth the price they cost. But hey, that's just like my opinion, man.
>>30087275
$700 mini > $700 ar15 ootb
If youre gonna keep it basic get the mini, if you're gonna spend countless dollars on tampon holders and Vagisil dispensers and whatnot attached to your rifle gof with the AR platform
>>30087642
This.
But mags are expensive, and they're not as hardy when it comes to dust as an AR-15
As someone who loves Mini-14s, the AR is better value and tends to be a better rifle. That said, a Mini-14 is viable as a rifle of choice. You'll be spending more money on quality magazines and getting less in the way of fancy gadgets but it's still plenty of fun to shoot and kills things dead when called upon to do so.
>>30087275
They are great fun rifles. The Tactical isnt really worth buying though.
Watch out for retards posting internet memes about these rifles.
I'd say it's the best $600 gun you can get for $800. Nothing inherently wrong with it, but you've got more options if you go with an AR. But again, nothing wrong with the mini. And I kind of hate Ruger.
>>30087275
Mini's over AR any day. Mini is designed to be a rifle where you throw it around. Haven't had a mini jam on me yet. Mags are harder to find though.
It's a $550 gun for $800
How many mags do you need to be ready for inawoods? 5 minimum maybe 7?
>>30089095
>mini is designed to be thrown around
>as opposed to the rifle that's been used by the US military for the past 50 years
>>30087275
I bought a Mini-14 awhile back. It was OK but the trigger is funky and I couldn't shoot it accurately for the life of me. I found a guy who said he'd trade me his Windham Weaponry AR for it, so I did. So far, I'm liking the AR infinitely better. Pic related is my 25m zero and 50m group with cheapo UTG irons.
>>30087275
Mini 14 are illegal in California now
Don't let them take your guns
>>30087275
jams, shitty accuracy, expensive, also jams a lot
It's a bad rifle for bad people
>>30087275
It's the only gun I ever sold.
Mini's are cool guns in the sense that you're getting the M1 action in .223 for $700. Slap some midrange glass on them and they're great pig/durr guns in the southwest and some of the south. If I lived somewhere deer grew larger than 200 pounds I'd just get a PTRS for the cost.
>>30087275
soon-to-be assault weapon in CA
>>30089971
Not if it's "featureless."
How expensive is 308 to shoot compared to 223 I am debateing whether I should get the mini or just pay more and get what I really want, an M1A. I don't have a lot of income so I saved up and have enough for one, but If I get the mini I can get a bunch of extra mags and ammo. Approximately how much more is factory 308 compared to 223? If I can't afford the ammo I won't really get to play with my raifu and what will be the point of getting the nicer gun?
>>30090060
eh, you can shoot 22cal for under a quarter/rd
30cal is .40/rd on the lowest end
>>30090048
It has a detachable mag, sorry friendo
>>30090094
If it's featureless, a 10-round detachable mag is OK.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billCompareClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1135
>>30090094
what he said. they, the bastards is sac, are gonna make detachable mags a feature. by new definition one feature will turn gun into an evilbabbykiller. thats why i said soon
>>30090103
>gut and amend
God damnit I hate that bullshit.
AB1663 is still lurking though
>>30090114
Which bill? The ones I've seen don't do this.
>>30090138
D'oh, that bill.
I'm not too worried about that bill. It hasn't passed the Assembly or the Senate, as compared to AB1135.
>>30090075
Maybe I could get a garand. Although ammo for that is even more expensive.
>>30087367
that's very likely, we've still got them in ohio too
>>30089971
I think we should just remove California from the united States. They obviously think their laws supercede the fucking bill of rights.
Depends on the price.
I want to ask Americans this: Which one would you buy if you take a look at the price considering that 1 Swiss Franc is the same as 1 USD?
Mini 14 Tactical:
>http://www.waffen-joray.ch/halbautomaten/ruger-mini14-detail.html
Price: 1390 USD
Ruger AR556
>http://www.waffen-joray.ch/halbautomaten/ruger-mini14-detail.html
Price: 1090 USD
Is the MINI 14 superior in any way?
>>30087298
>Had a customer point out that we had to stop carrying the AR platform.
>"It's a good thing too, those things are downright dangerous."
>Tell him the mini 14 shoots the same ammo.
>"Well yeah, but they don't kill nobody."
>Drank at lunch.
>>30090810
All fucking fudds must fucking hang
Is the mini California legal?
>>30087529
Same here, if this was a 500 rifle, then okay.
>>30090138
Has passed?
>>30087275
Eh...i'd rather have a M1A scout.
More reliable 10 round mags.
>>30090802
No the mini isn't superior in any way. It is just personal preference. Do you want a grand action or an AR 15 action? I would also stay away from the folding mall ninja mini 14. Just get one with a normal stock. They are much more comfortable to use.
>>30087275
I did this initially... I regretted not just going with the AR. Mini-14 is heavier, not nearly as accurate, and the god damn thing rarely made it through a full mag without a hiccup. Icing on the cake is the firing pin broke.
Btw this was with one of the new "improved" 581 series rifles and with those $45 Ruger magazines. The gun sucks, only redeeming quality was that it was sexy as hell.
>>30091779
This sounds similar to my experience. My fuddtastic parents (in high school at the time) didn't want a scary black rifle or Commie gun in house, so that left me with a Mini-14. Of course, I got fucked and overpaid, but that is what you get for supporting local business and because my parents didn't feel 'safe' with me buying a gun from Walmart.
It was a 4-5MOA gun from a rest with 77gr Nosler, 62gr, Black Hills, and literally everything else I tried. It wouldn't cycle 55gr PMC at all, usually locking up without even starting to eject. Other 55gr loads just failed to eject without locking it up.
The shop I bought it from told me "Rugers don't do that" and my fuddlord father agreed, which made getting it sent in for warranty work at age 16 hard.
I eventually traded it for a SKS, a Mossberg shotgun, 1000rds of 7.62x39, and two cases of shotgun shells. At the time, I was still losing money. I disclosed the issues to the elder fudd I traded it to, but he quickly pointed out "Rugers don't do that." He caught me a few weeks later and accused me of cheating him and wanted to trade back.
>>30087275
People give it shit but is is definitely better for the money than an equivalent AR. Not to mention it is something different and not just another same fag AR.
>>30090177
Go to the cmp store and get a 308 special. It's one of the few things they have a ton of. It's still a garand and isn't some foreign built m1a.
>>30091931
No, it is more expensive than a better AR.
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/eagle-arms-armalite-eagle-15-orc-ar15-556mm-nato-black-651984019115.do?utm_source=slickguns&utm_medium=referral
$504, plus $10 shipping. Yes, I know it's Cheaper Than Dirt.
http://www.mrgundealer.com/product.ruger-mini-14-ranch-sa-223-remington556-nato-185-51-hardwood-stk-blue
$691, plus $30 shipping. Lowest price after used rifles from Bud's.
>>30091908
How did he think you were cheating him?
>>30087663
The Tapco Gen 2 mags are good and run about $15.
>>30091985
How much do they run?
>>30092042
He thought I had broken the rifle in some way, because obviously a Ruger-brand Ruger wouldn't do that, despite going into the trade telling him it only cycled heavier loads.
>>30092063
$1030
>>30092066
The chamber was probably too tight and not cut well enough for the lighter stuff to eject properly.
>>30092066
Sounds like the recoil spring was too heavy. Was it a new gun or used?
>>30092079
It was probably the gas system. The whole action was very rough to cycle, even without a cartridge in it.
The chamber was open enough to slip nech sized loads from another rifle into it easily. It would even eject them with 77gr Nosler and compressed loads of Varget. "Safe" loads wouldn't eject.
I know the rifle was a lemon, but Ruger seems to make a surprising number of lemons.
>>30092082
New. I no longer have it.
If both the shop and my father weren't being asshats about it, I would have just sent it back to Ruger. I understand that their warranty service is great. Instead, an opportunity to unload it quickly appeared and I took it.
>>30089947
They're still legal moron.
>>30090810
>"Well yeah, but they don't kill nobody."
And you haven't pointed out to him that the bloodiest mass shooting in recorded history was carried out with a Mini 14?
Holy shit, you had one job, Anon. One job.
>>30087275
I've got an old 183 series gun. The rear sight is one of the good Garand style sights before they cheaped out. It has the thin barrel, so after about ten rounds it goes from shooting a three inch group at 100 yards to groups the size of a pie plate.
That said it's fun as Hell, is accurate enough for shooting yotes and hogs and of the thousands of rounds I've fired through it, I've had one malfunction, a broken case head while shooting factory reloads. It took less than a minute to clear. Given the same experience of clearing a broken case head ham in an M16A2, I think I like the open Garand style action better as long as you don't go diving into mudholes.
>>30087275
Here's the thing. If you compare it to an AR, it's lousy. It is well documented to be of a lesser performer in essentially every category to any modern AR15 platform firearm. And no amount of plastic is going to turn a gun with an 80 year old design into a solid, modern setup. And I suspect the crown that appeases to such aren't going to like it, much like the crowd that appreciates the older classic designs more than modern ones, so you're likely to get drowned socially/publically on that regard.
But, if you have the hankering for an older, tried and tested design the mini 'is' about as advanced as you could take it with these older industrial model of guns. They're basically a smaller and more advanced ("mini") m14, which is a more advanced M1 with hopped up firepower. And it's a sound AR alternative, if you happen to be in the group that is sick and tired of seeing ARs all the time. It is something you can shoot without worry which is exactly why they were a common ranch gun in the 90s, despite the "ranch" style mini that was marketed by Ruger.
It's a little against the grain in this modern day and age. But that is exactly why some people love them. I guess you could say the gun crowd is a complicated bunch sometimes.
>>30092132
Don't blame you. Ruger has great warranty service, but they occasionally let some dogs out of the factory. Things got pretty bad post Sandy Hook when they were working double shifts and still couldn't keep up with demand. Sorry you got a lemon.
>>30092187
This was 2008, around the election rush. Same deal, I imagine.
>>30092218
Yeah, I think so. Every manufacturer has been playing catch up since Obama got elected. I went to Larry's in Huntsville the Saturday after the 2008 election. The counter guy told me they had done as much business that week as they normally did in six months and they were cleaned out of anything with a passing resemblance to an "assault weapon".
The only thing that has really changed is the general public shifted to buying a shit ton of handguns around early 2014. S&W scaled back on AR production to build more pistols and revolvers. Big N Frame Smiths are going for north of $850 for a decent example now.
>>30092167
>IRIA
>project a-ko
Excellent taste
>>30092313
Larry's pistol and pawn is beast. Just some of the people behind the counter dgaf.
Ask guy behind counter if they carry a particular item, right away he answers "no", conversation with another guy behind counter, "of course we have those, right this way"
>>30092167
I have a 197 series Mni30. What's annoying about it is how much you have to spend to 'improve' it to basically make it as decent as something else would come out of the box.
I have to do a trigger job, buy a barrel strut (~200 bucks), replace the firing pin with a longer one and fit it properly, put in a smaller gas bushing, replace the rear sight with something non shitty. Then even so the fucking scope rings are ruger only.
It's like ruger designed a rifle to be as annoying as possible to the consumer.
Whatdaya. Think should pull trigger or a fast one?
>>30092382
>>30092396
>>30090802
Before handling one, I would have warned you off of the Tactical model. I had a chance to put my hands on one locally and was surprised by how solid it was.
If you like the looks of it, go for it. You can also get a wood stock for it later if you want.
>>30092406
I mean it's preeettttyyyy "Special"
>>30087471
Mini 14s jam like a mother. Incredibly unreliable but fun to shoot.
>>30092396
From what I've seen the folding stock alone goes for $600+ if it's a stainless in good condition, and the complete rifle itself at least $1100. Might be worth jumping on if you like the look or are planning on flipping it.
>>30092433
But@ 1.1k ? Price seems STEEP don't ya think? He won't budge a bit either.
For the money I could own a ebr...
>>30089967
You have a shelf you can make a rack for your long guns m8.
>>30092396
It's got the proper side sling swivel gas block, which means it's an original factory folder. It's definitely worth the $1100 he's asking for it.
>>30092469
The gun I'm talking about is the folding stock version like pic related. The ones without a bayonet lug and factory flash hinder were pretty rare, as King Fudd Bill Ruger didn't like ordinary citizens owning tactical guns. Despite that, Ruger still are some standard Mini 14 in blued and stainless steel with the side folder.
The way you tell if you have a gun sold with a side folding stock (called a "factory folder") is that the sling swivel will be on the side of the gas block instead of the bottom. I've seen stainless factory folders go for as much as $1700 to the right buyer.
From a practical standpoint, there's nothing really special about the gun, other than you could fold it up and stick it in a gym bag.
A collector would be willing to pay a premium for it, though.
>>30089967
>wrong house motherfucker
>>30092450
That has not been my experience. I'll cop to the design having accuracy issues, but "unreliable" is not something I would associate with the Mini 14.
Got an M1a recently, love the hell out of it but still have an itch for garand derivatives. Someone talk me out of this
>Mini-14 tactical in 300BO
>Accurizing strut and choate handguard for maximum aesthetics
>Throw something from silencerco on the bitch and have fun not blowing my dad's eardrums out when we jump something in the road
>>30091985
Can you just walk into the store and buy one? I thought you had to be a member of a gun group or something.
Are these factory folding stocks really that rare, they made them from 1980 all the way till 1989.
>>30087275
The design is inferior, and that's not only my opinion but that of the US army as well who tried to make the M14 a worthwhile gun.
The AR-15 is better in all respects.
>>30095547
Member of an affiliate club. But I think they have a club at the store that you can join. Call them and ask. You'll still need the rest of your paperwork.
>>30092621
Thanks if he isn't to much of autismo bout it I'll purchase. He had it armslist also with no bids so wasn't sure. Many internet's and prosperity to you and yr bloodline.
After the r9k/b takeover of all boards usefull info is unheard of.
Much appreciated
