Hello /k/ameraden!
I saw 13 hours: secret soldiers of Benghazi last night and I have a question.
[SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT!]
When the bad guys are attacking from the Zombie land and one of them aims the RPG and gets headshotted. Then he fires the RPG at the ground and it explodes.
Doesn't the RPG have to travel a specific distance to even get armed?
>>30080518
No, simple impact fuse on the tip of the round. If you are carrying it without the cover over the fuse, trip and the round hits nose first it can detonate while still in the launcher
>>30080523
I see, thank you!
And in general, was the movie realistic?
Not in terms of the actual events, but engagements and shootings?
>>30080518
PG-7 and PG-7V use the VP-7 fuse. The fuse is two-part point initiating, base-detonating, piezoelectric ignited. The base portion of the fuse contains an inertial safety switch that is mechanically closed at booster burnout; the same action also initiates the self-destruct powder train that makes properly functioning PG-7 series rockets go boom 4-6 seconds after launch.
In other words, it will not go off at point blank, unless said fuse/round is faulty, in that rare case it could go off when fired.
>>30080541
It's a Michael Bay film. What do you think? Most everything was exaggerated to some extent.
>>30080518
It was alright, Bay couldnt help itself with the obnoxious jingonistic crap at times, but as an action flick it does the job well. Dirt Diver got fugged up though.
>>30080523
Wrong. I asked one ofmy friends who is a SEAL and what actually happened in Benghazi is that when he fired the RPG, before it had a chance to accelerate too much , a designated marksmen (what you guys might refer to in Hollywood as a sniper) shot the RPG round and it exploded. It all happened too fast so it looks like it was caused by hitting the ground at first.
>>30080518
Anyone get some good screens of the delta operators in the movie?
Reminded me of Tucker and Dale desu.
>>30080541
>wouldn't have taken a mortar to the knee if he didn't use an EOTech
>>30081008
They were just generic bearded guys with multicam
>>30080943
>Shooting a rocket out of the air
>In the heat of battle, in a blazing desert, in literal bullet hell
You're either full of shit, trying to bait us, or you need to pull Uncle Sam's greasy, circumcised manhandler out of your money hole.
>>30080943
Sure thing you fucking idiot
The RPG rockets seemed very very unrealistic in this movie. The kebabs were almost lobbing them over the perimeter defenses... and they threw out tons of sparks as they went through the air. They behaved more like firecrackers than warheads...
Overall meh-tier movie. Exactly what you'd expect from a Michael Bay film.
>>30081302
>Overall meh-tier movie. Exactly what you'd expect from a Michael Bay film.
>I expected this movie to be kinda crap
>I thought that it was exactly that
>I'M SO DAMNED DISAPPOINTED
>>30081302
Yeah i noticed that too. all the rpg's had this up and over type of trajectory.
I keked when the CIF team was armed with m16a2s
>>30081174
Hes obviously a fucking stupid shit shitposting you underage faggot
>>30081008
I wonder if those Delta boys were equally useless and did fuck all in the actual event.
>>30081440
Wasnt Tu Lam with those guys?
>>30081580
In the movie their job was to assist in the sensitive materials destruction or something?
>>30080518
Why did everyone stand still on the roof when they heard mortars incoming and most of the shooting was over. Let alone stand there to get hit by the second and third one?
>>30080518
The film was mediocre overall, and quite subdued for a Bay film. Still, it does have a few good scenes in it, mostly dealing with gore and chaos of warfare.
Bay made an actual good war movie once, I was hoping maybe he was returning to his roots. I wasn't totally wrong, but it was more miss than hit.
>>30080518
I'm not too familiar with the actual 2012 Bengazi attacks (except that every event depicted in the movie basically happened, just with less intensity). But it's a kind of bizarre US didn't just start calling in airstrikes left and right. Jurisdiction? What jurisdiction? US's been conducting semi- and non-authorized bombing runs, drone strikes in all kinds of countries, deploying SOF on occasion without even notifying the government of the state. Why not do it here?
>>30083171
Where would they stand? There were no fighting positions anyway, and perimeter needed to be manned regardless. Shitskins aren't known for proficiency in anything, including crewing mortars, to those rounds hitting anything at all was an accident.
What's going on in this thread?
>>30083371
Nothing. What difference does it make?
>>30081723
Pretty sure they didn't deploy 1st Group CIF all the way to the middle east
What's going on in here ??
>>30083422
>>30083371
Oh shit cat fight
>>30083362
The political regime that controls the US wanted to inflame the american public and make muslims more hated. They wanted to get the public gung ho for another middle eastern war (ie syria, yemen, etc). The attack happened on september 11th too, which obviously is a day where americans hold negative sentiments towards muslims - by letting the compound get rekt, rather than BTFOing the attackers in typical US military fashion, the regime thought the deaths of americans would be enough to set down a path towards war.
Instead it fizzled. The plan was apparently half assed, because the cover story turned out to be ridiculously unbelievable bullshit (that the attackers attacked the compound over a shitty youtube video). Once it became obvious that something was fishy, and that continuing to push the narrative would only cause more holes to be poked in it, the whole thing was dropped and buried.
Basically this is a good portion of what the big fuss behind killery clinton's email scandal is. That some of those emails had sensitive information that would prove the regime is actively sacraficing american lives and wellbeing to achieve their self-interests in the middle east.
>>30083404
Wasnt he (a) teamleader of the 10th SFG CIF during the Benghazi assault?
>>30080518
The short answer is: It depends. There are a large number of warheads and variants built that can fit into the RPG-7 launcher.
Many have a safe/arm minimum distance, however some do not.
This guy:
>>30080699
Is pretty much on the money. Russian made RPG warhead often use that fuze or an AF-7x series fuze, which has a safe/arm minimum distance.
Something like an OG-7 (admittedly very visually distinct from a conventional 7V warhead) or an RPG-7AP round may be be set off without a minimum distance.
Also, ya know, Michael Bay.
>>30080943
Faggot
>>30082421
True but these are Tier 1 dudes after all. Kinda ruining the delta boner for me.
>>30084379
World's most well trained paper shredders
How was the gunplay in this?
>>30080518
Watching this movie rn
>>30084841
bretty good. worth a watch.
Was the compound only hit by a couple of mortar rounds IRL as well? Wondered why they didnt continue shelling the place after having zeroed it in.
>>30080518
When I look at that picture and the first thing I think is, "What a shitty AR build" is that bad?
That seems bad.
>>30087741
spending too much time in ARG
>>30083478
How much is tin foil these days?
>>30080518
that plate carrier looks retarded
>>30081036
One guy is a ex seal and owner of half face blades
>>30081723
Wait I thought lam was delta? Are you telling me he was CIF
>>30083371
Just emailing back and forth. You know what email is don't you cunt
>>30080518
Anyone else catch the death boner at ~2:10:45 in?
You are at the embassy, when this guy slaps your gf's ass and tell you to stand down.
What do?
>>30083399
I see what you did there
>>30083171
I'm gonna need a source on that pic
>you will never smoke check ayyy rabs with a 417
why even live
>>30088020
was that a 417 or m110 in the movie?
>>30087841
He was in CIF, and then was either attached or transferred to a Delta Force Operational Support Troop
>>30088104
it's a 417
>tfw I was a Marine and I was there and now I am reading this thread...
>>30088405
Really?
>>30089100
Really really...
>>30089273
Proofs fag
>>30087741
Autistic as fuck/10
>>30087755
Spot on
>>30089273
Were you security?
Just marathoned this with my wife's son, this truly is the eptiome of operatorkinó
>>30080518
I wondered exactly that same thing
>>30089523
I was apart of the only group that made landfall but we were told to go too late. Mr. Stevens was a good friend of mine... I haven't seen the 13 Hours movie but I have friends who told me it was pretty accurate but it just doesn't show everything that was happening or that went on, it was a narrow perspective, but that is okay by me. I heard Micheal Bay was really cool and that it was not over the top like his other movies... Also, fuck Hillary and any establishment politician for that matter...
>>30080518
>Doesn't the RPG have to travel a specific distance to even get armed?
some of the shittier rpg rockets have a cap on the impact trigger that you remove before firing instead of a timed trigger.
>>30087841
He left delta to lead CIF with the 10th
>>30080699
Shitty Chinese and or domestic copies have simple impact fuses
>>30087936
hey now, if you talk to him youll know that Bob did some shit back in the day
>>30089900
Well shit, that's rough. At least the story got told, I guess. Still sucks that people will never be held accountable.
>>30083362
Take a look at a map, distances be hours.
The route in was litteered wit manpaads, we send helo releif and more die.
It was the dumbshit ambassador leaving the embassy at fault, and even then that's questionable if the embassy would have held.
What more likely happened was a CIA clean sweep to hide the gunrin op and chem weapons for ISIS going to Turkey.
As well, the main attack was over by the time it got up the horn, much less oversight being established.
RIP Vile Rat.
>>30089900
double-dubs don't lie
The movie didn't make it clear, but did Dave the State guy survive?
>>30087780
You rode the short bus to school, huh?
>>30090958
The black DSS guy who got hit by the mortar? Yeah he lived.
So what was the story with the militant who blew his hands off? Was he trying to kill the GRS team or was it just imcompetence?
They had a pretty comfy job (not including the attack ofcourse). Go abroad, eat local food do some general operating and play vidya.
>>30081723
What a retarded looking watch
>>30093308
Looks more like an altimeter for parachuting
>>30091204
Yep, that's the one. His last scene in the movie is him being laid out on a table with a clipped artery, so I wasn't sure.
>>30092039
I haven't read the book, but the movie he says he's Feb 17. Unless he was lying, he was most likely some retard who played fuck-fuck games with a grenade and got what he deserved.
>>30083447
Underrated post
who /17feb/ here?
