Hey /k/ are antique pistols viable for personal defense?
Interested in owning my first firearm, how can I purchase one without a papertrail? Or no paperwork basically.
>>30050932
They worked back then and they'll work now
I've got an old Bodeo revolver I'll carry
Or you could just buy a modern handgun from a private seller and not have to fill out any paperwork, unless you live in a cuck state.
>>30050938
Man those revolvers are nice, I would love to own one, I really like the .38 Lemon squeezers.
>>30050947
Yea I could do that, I live in FL, Older weapons can be less trouble.
>>30050977
Maybe in regard to purchasing from a retailer, but I'd go with this suggestion >>30050947 if possible... but I'd also prefer not to every day carry something that has been used and abused for the last 100 years. If you do get something old, take it to a gun smith and make sure that shit is in proper working order.
>>30050977
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOyaAjQyMbU
Corn Lund says yes.
>>30050977
Nah OP. They're pretty much shit in comparison to anything out today. Especially anything that would be uitable for carry.
The best option would be an 80% SPECTRE, basically a glock 17 that you can mill out with a hand drill.
http://www.polymer80.com/Polymer80-80-Pistol-Frame-V1-Black_p_1788.html
Then jump on YT and look at the build options. It's stupid simple.
>>30050994
Dont want a paper trail. This is not going to he carried on me everydy, this is for my home.
>>30051013
Not really looking for carry, I mostly want something to use in my house.
I don't know how to mill or do any of that.
>>30051026
Perfect. Then the Spectre is the gun you want. No milling. Just a hand drill.
>>30051038
How accurate would that be? Looks cheap but sounds fishy, does it bring the whole gun?
>>30051083
It's just a Glock 17 frame. Functionally identical to a factory Glock. You will need Glock frame parts + slide readily available from lone wolf distributors or gunbroker.
>>30051083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44y4XsodRZk
>>30051083
I'm not the anon who posted, but it's the same concept as milling out an 80% AR lower, but looks like it's probably easier to complete. You still need to get the other parts, barrel, recoil spring, trigger/fire control, mag release, slide... but no paper trail.
>>30050932
You could get an old black powder revolver and buy a cartridge conversion kit. Alternatively, you could simply buy spare black powder cylinders for it and pre-load them, allowing you to drop and replace the cylinder quickly.
>>30051114
All the internal lower parts come with it. You just have to slap a complete slide on there (~$400 on gunbroker) from a g17 or g24 and it's good to go.
>>30051168
No they don't.
>>30051114
>>30051168
I don't want to build the gun, I want to buy one, I was considering older guns because they are not much of a hassle, and bring no trouble.
>>30051122
That is way to old man, I was thinking a normal revolver from that time.
>>30051192
Whatever faggot. Get some hipster shit that Jamal will shove up your ass when it doesn't fire because it's a 100 year old relic.
>>30051195
That's what you need to do to avoid the paperwork. You can buy black powder firearms online in any state, as well as conversion cylinders to make them take modern ammo.
Otherwise you'll need to find an actual antique SAA or Schofield or something, which is going to be thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars.
>>30051195
Antique implies pre 1899 poorfag.
>>30051192
What the hell does "bring no trouble" mean? Try shooting a dindu an 1851 navy. The cops will think you are a loonatic.
Building a gun from an 80% lower has the same paper trail as buying an "old" gun online or wherever, except that you are only buying parts. So there is no proof that you own a gun until you use it in self defense.
>>30051205
>>30051243
The reason why I don't want to make it is because I am going to spend $400 on this shit, when I could have just bought one to begin with.
I have to mill with drill, and do some shit, I don't want to risk fucking it up.
>>30051213
Actually not a poorfag.
>>30051243
He wants to spend $50 and hide the purchase from his wife. He's thoroughly cucked as evidenced by his inability to drill a piece of plastic and belief in a registry.
>>30051266
Naw man, I was looking to spend like $300.
>>30051273
>I..I'm not poor guise
>>30051273
Why no paper trail?
>>30051280
Well sorry that I don't want to spend a crazy amount on my first firearm.
>>30051266
And is it really as easy as drilling plastic? Never assembled a firearm as well.
>>30051286
Don't want anybody to know that I own one.
>>30051273
ON FUCKING WHAT?
You just said you want something "old" because it will "bring no trouble" but those things make no fucking sense. I don't care if you so cucked by modern society that you don't know how to use a drill and can't do anything by yourself. I just want to know what the fuck you are talking about
>>30051273
Then buy an old black powder pistol and a spare cylinder. You won't even be able to afford cartridge conversion at that price m8
>>30051293
Building an unserialized gun for yourself is the only legal way to do that unless you buy a single action blackpowder handgun. Or buy anything from a person locally in a private sale through armslist, the want ads or whatever you have available locally. You still will have a record of communication with that person in an nsa databank somewhere though so It really doesn't matter. Live your life and stop worrying about trying not to be seen, because if they want to see you, they already are.
>>30051287
The lower receiver is the only part that's legally a gun. 80% lowers are lower receivers with extra plastic. Because of this plastic, they aren't functional, and are therefore exempt from firearm laws. You buy them with no background checks or registration, drill out the extra plastic, and buy the other parts of the gun to attach to it. The other parts are also not guns, so no background checks for those either. Guns like Glocks and ARs are super modular, so you basically clip them together.
>Antique pistols
I'd say yes on pretty much all old revolvers (Not something that's changed significantly over time), and maybe on old semi-autos. I say maybe, because for keeping a firearm for personal defense, I would definitely always want to keep 1 in the chamber (Or at the absolute least, have the ability to safely have a round chambered at all times). A lot of older semi-autos are lacking in the safety department compared to modern ones, ie. no drop safeties, a regular safety that may or may not function, etc...
As an example, I've got an old (~1917) Spanish Ruby in .32 ACP that would make a decent self defense gun, as it's pretty compact, feeds like a champ and never fails to fire ever because it's so damn simple, and is heavy enough that I'd feel confident tomahawking someone with it after emptying the magazine. I'd never carry it on me though, as it lacks a drop safety and it's been shot/abused enough that the safety is iffy on whether it will work, and if it's loaded and you whip the gun just the right way fast enough, the hammer will slip and fire without touching the trigger.
My dad has one too, his safety works pretty well though and it's a lot harder to make the hammer on his slip. Personally I wouldn't carry either, I'd rather carry my 9mm 1911 even though it's much larger and magazines are more finicky (Resulting in occasional jams on the last round) than risk that little .32 firing at any time I don't want it to.
>>30051213
According to the ATF no, antique just means 50+ years since date of manufacture
>>30051294
Look sorry, I have more money to spend, I just set 300 as a price, because I thought it could be legal, I did not know that it was that easy, of course I can drill of some extra plastic.
>>30051313
>.32 ACP
>Good decent self defense
Anyways, you're thinking of curios and relics, not antiques. Curios and relics you can get a license for to have them sent directly to your door. Antiques require no paperwork whatsoever.
Anything that doesn't use fixed munitions is an antique, as is anything before 1899.
>>30051309
>>30051312
Okay, Ill make the gun then. Did not know that it was that easy. What part has to be drilled? How much would everything cost me?
Im guessing that I can order the other parts on Ebay or some shit. I have little experience with firearms, but I assume it is easy to put together, trigger might be hardest part.
>>30051348
They still look at your license (drivers), and have your name.
>>30051313
I thought 50 years was the rule for Curio & Relics? You need a very restrictive specific FFL for that. Though, the 50 year rule encompasses some full autos at this point, even some uzis.
Pretty sure that 1899 or 1900 or whatever is the date for non-firearm "replicas" like the 1851, etc.
>>30051313
Yea this can be dangerous.
>>30051353
You can build a pistol ar15 really easily (pistol legally means <16" barrel and no stock) or a rifle length if that would suit you. Polymer80.com has the lower receiver that you need to drill out. Instructions are all over youtube. And you can buy the rest of the rifle as a kit from gunbroker or other places. Palmetto State Armory has periodic sales of ar parts and, for a budget build, will become your best friend. Total likely cost is ~$600.
If you want the glock, it might end up costing around $500-700. same company sells the 80% lower, then the rest of the parts (glock 17 gen3 slide and trigger group) can be had on gunbroker. Poly80 links to sites that sell glock parts too btw. Instructions are on their website.
This stuff sounds way harder than it really is. It's 90% reading/watching videos to learn and 10% actually doing the work.
>>30051394
Do you think it is worth it in terms of costs?
AR sounds cheap for that price, but the Glock seems a little expensive.
>>30051104
>>30051111
>>30051114
Not him, but I'm curious.
Do these 80% frames come stamped with a serial number?
>>30051273
You should buy a rifle for that price if you're not looking to carry.
>>30051421
To me, it was worth it because it is satisfying to diy, and because it is homemade, you legally don't need a serial number or a background check or a paper trail.
In terms of cost, it is more worth it to buy through a private sale like armslist. The glock is way more money than just buying a handgun but they can ship all those parts to places where there are unconstitutional restrictions on owning them. ie, people use them to get around handgun licenses. Your best bet is probably a private sale if you are trying to avoid papertrail and not spend a bunch of money.
>>30051432
Gun control act of 1968 says that homemade firearms do not need serial numbers. No they do not.
>>30051313
>9mm 1911
for what purpose?
>>30051452
>Gun control act of 1968
Really?
I never read that part of it.
Are the dindus too lazy to mill a gun instead of filing off the serial number?
>>30051452
I understand man, how much did it cost you?
I was reading something that you need to register after making it, is that true? What are the laws, your state might be different, I am in FL.
Looking through Armslist but all the handguns listed are from some Pawn Shop, I rather not get from them.
>>30051447
I could, but a Pistol is easier to hide, carry, and etc.
I was seeing this really cheap one yesterday, was like 300 bucks, shoots 22 Magnum rounds.
>>30051421
Glock
>>30050932
You ask around shady people for handguns cash and you do it in a way that doesnt spook them or make yourself vulnerable.
>that sounds hard I have no idea how to interact with the criminal underworld or tell a thug whod as soon rob me from a professional.
Lurk more so to speak. Those types have an act right or fuck off policy.
>>30051562
I can get a Glock for $180 USD, I don't get it because who knows, could have a fucking body on it, could be stolen, who knows. Trust me I am not a pussy, I rather just not get into trouble.
>>30051479
Haha filing off the serial number is breaking a federal crime, you will go to jail.
>>30051452
Guns like this seem pretty cheap
>>30051531
Why hide it if it's for SD?
Put a sling on it if you want to carry.
A rifle is much more versatile.
You can at least learn marksmanship with it if you don't use it for anything else.
>>30051597
No shit, I was asking why people commit a felony when they can legally mill an 80%.
>>30051613
They're dumb. Also you can't file it off. You have to smash it with a nail, otherwise they can recover the number.
>>30051359
So? If you buy online it's all the same as getting one of those 80 percent frames.
>>30051604
True. Shit I wish I lived in the woods or some shit, and I was able to shoot in the backyard.
>>30051660
What?
>>30051677
>Buy black powder pistol online
>Have to give address and credit card info
>Buy 80% frame online
>Have to give address and credit card info
>>30051708
Oh ok I get you. Well, at least if I make it, it's better than buying one from a place that gets a lot more paperwork. If I bought the parts on Ebay there isnt much they can do with it.
>>30050932
>Doesn't want to buy a gun
>Thinks the goverment is gonna know all about his stupid first purchase of a stupid handgun
>Lives in Florida, of all places
You should be aware firsthand that everyone from that place is a fucking lunatic. You're not gonna be the only one pissed off if the government goes full Mao.
>>30051013
>>30051026
>>30051038
>>30051083
>>30051104
>>30051111
>>30051114
This is retarded. Guy doesnt know shit about guns and u nerds want him to mill an 80%.
Armslist com
Youre welcome OP
>>30051521
I spent about $550 after watching palmetto state armory sales for a few weeks. I'm in NY so it was easier and cheaper than going through a gun shop that is going to up the price like crazy. I only had to change one part to be compliant with my state's shitty laws.
You don't have to register them unless you want to sell/give them to someone else. they are legally yours until you either destroy them or serialize them and fill out some paperwork to sell them.
>>30051786
Thanks man, and thanks to everyone that helped me and gave me suggestions, I appreciate it /k/
Looking through right now, guns here are fairly cheap.
How would the purchase go? Would the weapon be mines and I would be good to go?
>>30050932
Private seller, if legal.Why is this even a question?
>>30051026
If it's just for use in your home, then you'd be MUCH better off with a shotgun or rifle. You could probably buy a used mossberg 500 from someone for $150-$250.
>>30051361
It is, he's just a moron.
Buying guns with a C&R completely defeats the "no trace" purpose of an 80% build. Even then, everything you purchase has been logged anyway per FBI requests to CC companies. That's why I'd just buy a poorfag S&W SD9 from Academy and not worry about it.
>>30051859
I am thinking about it. Should I really though?
Havent seen any on armslist for that cheap.
>>30050932
Oh shit, OP. I just realized something. If you're willing to go as low as an old muzzle loaded firearm, then you'd be much better off (and leave ABSOLUTELY no paper trail whatsoever) if you made your own slide fire shotgun. It takes like $20 in supplies and is functional. All you'd have to do then is pay cash for some simple target birdshot loads and cut the shells for added umpf.
>>30051613
They're niggers with a low IQ obviously. Why pretend to not know why they're stupid? It's genetics.
>>30050947
I'll sell you my PPK/S for $400
>>30051887
You could get a model 11 or A-5 for under $300 easily
Semi-auto, 5 rounds, badass long recoil action.
>>30051893
Good idea man, and I appreciate it, but it would be kinda dangerous, and not very accurate.
>>30051926
Cheapest I found on armslist is a Mossberg 500 with ATI stock for $400
>>30051828
Yeah nigga, u just give them cash and they give u a gun. Sometimes they want you to sign a form saying youre not a felon. Usually not tho.
>>30051971
Awesome. Except some fuckers want more.
Surprisingly easy to get a weapon.
>>30051957
That's the unfortunate side of armslist, tacticool shit that has no value is always listed really high. There is a button to turn off FFL vendors on that site btw, I see you mention pawn shops flooding the space, that's a problem near me too.
>>30051957
Go to a gunstore. I'm sure they'll have model-11's. They're basically the mosin nagant of shotguns. Everyone has them.
>>30052002
http://www.armslist.com/posts/2425508/lansing-michigan-shotguns-for-sale--remington-model-11-
>>30051994
This is america theres more guns than people ofc. I got the rifle in the middle off armslist last week for $300 and its mint.
>>30050932
Just get the biggest ball and cap revolver you can. Most are 50cal iirc.
>>30052000
Yea man, people tend to overprice there shit by a lot. I don't like that, yea I know about that, you can turn off the pawn shops also if you disabke vertified vendors.
I just want them to take me the gun give them the money and we leave. No paperwork.
Also what are the chances of getting a stolen firearm, or a weapon that has commited a crime.
>>30052010
Wow that was a crazy good deal. Nice guns btw, I wish one day I could have a collection like that.
>>30050932
This one got 5 shots off and got a dude killed.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=166564
>>30050977
you live in florida? fuck man, how do you not have a paperless gun already? save up 3 or 4 hundred if you want an okay handgun, 2 or 3 for a bolt or shotgun and drive yourself to the webster westside flea market next monday. keep your spaghetti in your pockets and trade cash and a handshake for gun.
you need a ccw if you want to carry in public though.
>>30052071
I think I rather just meet with somebody from armslist. I am going to keep this as an option, I need to wait a few years to get ccw.
>>30052033
Holy shit they dangerous.
>>30052019
Nothing's impossible but the chances are just about 0.
>>30052221
Why so low?
This Mosin is being sold for $300
>>30052270
It is OP, should I do it?
>>30052256
Because of how pointless it would be for anyone to try to do that. It is expending extra effort to put yourself at more risk. If you used a gun in a crime and don't want it, most criminals would just toss it into a large body of water or sell it to a nigger really cheap. Posting on armslist makes no sense. That being said, people are very stupid and it is possible to run into someone selling a hot gun on there.
>>30052270
Whats with that brass banding?
>>30052256
If you get it from a pawn shop or gun store, they have systems to check.
If it's from a private party, people usually don't post murder weapons online.
"Hmm, looks like the victim was killed with a 9mm pistol."
"Oh hey, our suspect has an ad on broker for a once used 9mm pistol!"
Protip, if you ever murder anyone, just ditch the thing, preferably in saltwater.
>>30052010
>shotgun
>pistol grip with no stock
>why...?
>>30052314
Maximum high speed low drag
>>30052071
An important thing to note (this is directed towards OP) is that there is absolutely no form of open carry allowed in Florida. It's bullshit.
>>30052303
It worked out fine for the zimzam man.
>>30052302
I really dont know man.
>>30052294
Why not?
>>30052334
A mosin is totally unweildy for self defense. At that price you could buy a secondhand 12ga pump at a flea market like >>30052071 said and buy some tacticool furniture if you want. Probably with cash leftover to go practice at a local skeet/trap range which is fun as fuck.
>>30052302
pre war 91/30
>>30052334
too much money. i like nuggets, i have an m91 and an m39, but you could get more gun for that money. 7.62x54r is overkill for hd and the gun is unwieldy indoors.
>>30052334
Imagine, for a moment, that your couch fires as large caliber projectile. Now imagine you wake up in the middle of the night to the sound of tyrone breaking a window and climbing in. Now you grab your couch and try to swing it through the house to clear each room. You could certainly put some lead into treyvon's skittles but it'd be a real challenge to navigate close quarters with a long, heavy, monster piece of self defense furniture.
>>30052019
>a weapon that has committed a crime
>>30052331
>>30052399
That's not even the post I replied to faggot, I was relating "used once". Obviously it's not a real analogy anyways, just a joke.
>>30052391
>>30052375
>>30052352
You guys are right it is pretty shit in that regard.
I live in a good place so the chanches of a break in are pretty slim to none. I would like a gun that I can take to the range as well, and have some fun.
>>30051021
>>30050932
Felon detected.
>>30052439
i'd think about a hi-point or a milsurp handgun like a tokarev in that case, cheap solid guns.
>>30052447
Gun control supporting complacent fudd detected.
>>30051921
I just inherited my grandfather's PPK/S that was made sometime in the 50s in West Germany. As well as a 1956 Galesi model 9.
It's pretty sweet, especially since I live in Maryland and the only guns I can buy are antiques, curios, and relics.
>>30052447
See >>30052600
>>30052472
I was thinking of something with cheap ammo, and enough power to stop a person or animal.
Something that I can have a lot of ammo for just in case shit goes bad.
>>30052447
Not a felon, I have a clean record. Not even a ticket.
>>30052472
Would something like a 10/22 Ruger Charger be good?
>>30052631
if you're the anon that lives in maryland buy an antique 12 gauge that doesn't have a damascus or welded barrel, something proofed for smokeless powder.
if you're the one that lives in florida a hi-point in 9mm is under 200 and has cheap, commonly available ammo.
i'd like to add that i'm also not a felon and nothing would prevent me from passing a background check, however for my 30+ guns i've never subjected myself to one.
>>30052700
FL anon. Yea I get you, I don't want to be subject to that either, I rather get it from someone.
What do I search for the hi-point? Have looked all around armslist and haven't seen it.
I saw a listing for a 10/22 Ruger Charger, and the price is $300, uses 22 long rifle.
>>30052654
i'd prefer something that shoots a beefier round, .22 does have the most kills in most of the statistical rankings, but has an edge from the absurd commonality of the caliber and that rifles aren't separated from the data.
>>30052726
https://www.armslist.com/posts/5456717/jacksonville-florida-handguns-for-sale--hi-point-c-9---extra-mag
takes awhile for what you want to show up, keep checking back, but they are pretty common guns.
>>30052729
Yea I wanna get other guns in the future, I wanna have at least 3.
A good pistol, a good rifle, and a good target gun, like the Ruger Charger.
>>30052746
Wow how are these so cheap? Are they any good?
>>30052746
Can't find this in my area btw.
>>30052776
they are heavy, boxy, and uncool but they work well and have a great warranty. /k/ommandos will give you a hard time for owning one, but we'll give you a hard time for everything.
>>30052801
The design looks bad, thing about this is if you bought it and it ends up being complete ass.
>>30052776
They are the bare minimum of a device that shoots bullets.
There's nothing wrong with them, but there's nothing good about them either.
>>30052820
so buy an hk
>>30052833
As long as it does not jam, and break and shit.
>>30052836
Are those any better?
>>30052836
They are pretty expensive $400-600
>>30052447
>thinking its good for the government to keep records of all gun owners
>thinking this is for purely benign purposes
>thinking it is unreasonable to not want the government up in your ass because you own guns
>thinking it is unreasonable for wanting your privacy to exist
>thinking it is unreasonable to take steps to safeguard your privacy from an ever more intrusive government with an ever more naive, lazy, entitled generations coming to voting age and willing to support totalitarian leftists who platform on taking away your guns
>but it'll just be the evil scary semiautomatics, they'll let you register and keep your bolt action fudd guns for the time being
kill yourself.
>>30052949
This.
>>30052314
Literally for thug life. I never shoot that shit.
>>30052031
You can, its pretty poorfag
>>30051463
9+1, extreme local .45 shortage, and it was my first non-fudd gun
Shoots smooth as butter though
>>30052907
>>30052925
>Are those any better?
yeah but you pay for it, and they aren't worth the price difference, it's all subjective of course.
>They are pretty expensive $400-600
that's my point, if you cheap out and get a poorfag one you pay 3 times what a base level bullet spitter goes for.
>>30053202
on what?
>>30053039
why is it poorfag?
You could always check out nearby states for gun shows, flea markets or just on armslist for better selection also.
>>30055807
I like armslist, but for reason shit seems to be overpriced.
>>30056437
cheap stuff sells fast, overpriced stuff sits around.
>>30056476
Who can I pickup good deals?
>>30056714
How*
>>30050932
Get four of pic related, then practice your New York reload.
>>30056733
Am retard; forgot pic. Cap and ball black powder snubnose.
>>30056733
>>30056743
Im gonna buy a modern weapon, but would love to start a classic gun collection. How much is this?
>>30056714
Be vigilant. Check every day, make it as routine as checking your email of 4chan or whatever. Only takes a few minutes and you usually catch the good deals as they pop up that way. That's actually just the best way to find deals on anything on the internet. I have never paid more than $1000 for a motorcycle by watching craigslist this way. I also got a sweet fucking deal on a decently rare muscle car doing that for about 5 months. Takes time, weeks, sometimes months but eventually the right deal for you will come along.
>>30056772
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1972136266/pietta-1860-army-snub-nose-steel-frame-black-powder-revolver-with-checkered-thunderer-grips-3-barrel-blue
The only CCW that doubles as a smokescreen!
>>30057128
>$399
I will pass on that
>>30056901
Thanks, I spent the whole day browsing it at regular intervals, and found only few good deals. Fuck, I wish that the prices were cheaper for some pieces. People wanna sell used guns for retail value.
>>30057339
yeah it's pretty bad. Most people have room to haggle but people don't like to believe that their guns loose value (though just about everyone on /k/ will call you a redneck/old man/nigger if you mention haggling cause millennials are afraid of confrontation). And it looks like you saw earlier in the thread (i've been lurking this on and off all day) how people think making a shitty cheap gun look like pic related makes it worth $$$$ lol
Patience will pay off, trust me on that.
>>30050932
You have to know the right people.
Knew a guy who had a full autism Sten, good deal. Just didn't want to handle it.
>>30057637
I will try to haggle a little bit, people include an extra clip yet charge an extra $100.
>>30059486
Is it full auto?
>>30060356
>clip
>>30050932
build your own or buy private party
armslist.com
>>30052010
The only way to make that AR more perfect would be to add a more durable optic, like an ACOG.
Good taste.
>>30060447
Gonna try to buy private party.
>>30060443
Yea?
>>30060509
I have to admit that it is very nice.
>>30050932
No, but it will make for an interesting headline.
>HOME INVADER KILLED BY HOMEOWNER WITH A FLINTLOCK PISTOL
>>30060520
use the "private party" search tag on armslist, makes it dead simple :^)
>>30060531
I want to collect old guns also, they are pretty cheap. So if someone comes in I can go out with both guns in my hands and shoot with the flintlock first.
>>30060550
Where it at?
>>30060641
search on fb senpai
>>30050932
antique firearm for self defense
>melanin enriched gentleman tries to accost me
>pull out walker dragoon 44 cal
>>30060509
>>30060523
Thanks dudes.
>>30060655
Ok thanks.
>>30060675
I would love to collect old firearms.
>>30060766
No problem dude, How much did they all cost you? I need to start one now.
>>30060811
AR $700
M14 $80
Marlin 336 $300
Savage Mkii $120
Maverick 88 $320
Springfield 1911 850
Ruger Mk I $130 + Chick-Fil-A for 2 LGS employees
S&W 5906 $350
S&W Model 19 $220
S&W M&P $420
Sig Sauer P238 $475
S&W 442 $400
Thats including tax or transfer fees if I paid them, and things like optics, grips, and refinishing. So somewhere around $4400 out of pocket.
>>30050932
Black powder revolvers are still very dangerous and effective weapons.
>>30062324
Yup, if you get hit they will open a huge hole in you.
>>30061932
I have like $600 that I am willing to spend. I can get a few nice pieces.
Some of those guns were acquired for very cheap, and look very nice.
>>30062353
Yeah my LGS has given me some incredible deals, i.e. the model 19 and the ruger. What do you have so far?
>>30062543
I have no guns yet man, planning on getting some
OP here.
Is something like this worth it?
>>30051828
"mines" nigger detected.
>>30063072
Nope
>>30063061
No, thats overpriced. Look for an AR and remember most people will come down on price if you ask.
>>30063109
ARs are very expensive
This one looks good.
>>30063248
ARs are cheap on armslist, i see them up there all day around $600
>>30063734
Which?
>>30064009
http://www.armslist.com/posts/5515762/tampa-rifles-for-sale--bushmaster-carbon-15
Literally 2nd page and comes with $200 in mags and ammo and you could probably haggle him down some more.
>>30064184
I saw this already, it is a good deal. I am from Miami, if I lived close to this dude I would buy it from him. That looks like a fine weapon
>>30063331
Guys is this worth it? I am interested in getting it, the price looks cheap.
>>30064709
Well go look through Miami armslist then man find something, and buy it. Check prices with slickguns.com
>>30064743
if the bore is good it's an ok price, duckbill mags are notoriously unreliable so you'll want to get a fixed mag, and pick up a wood stock at some point.
>>30065815
>>30065941
Thanks. Still looking for a good gun. Maybe I should just get a good crossbow haha. Ill take my patience, might find something good in the coming weeks.
