What's your opinion on the Remington 700
>no bayonet lug
>tiny capacity
It's shit.
>>30041293
I like your style
>poly stock
>rust
>terrible out of box
>>30041286
I wish mine was chambered in a less fudd round
>>30041286
Wood A1 stock or bust.
>>30041286
I want one in .300 blackout so I can suppress it and shoot stuff very quietly.
I have one from like 1976 in a safe, wood stock and all.
>>30041293
>bayonet lug on a sniper's rifle
>implying you'll have time to use a whole magazine during any of the operations you'd use this on.
>>30041293
Bayonet...what?
You guys are all retarded and have never been in the service before.
Bayonets are only used for ceremonies now
>>30041366
>>30041398
Get a load of these plebs
>>30041293
But anon, you don't need a bayonet when you can stab them with bullets from really far away. I mean at least, like, 10 feet, at least.
Worst extractor out there.
Soldered-on bolt lugs and handle.
Terrible QC and inconsistent tolerances.
I've had two and sold both. I's rather spruce up a mauser action then take a free remington 700.
>>30041318
That would be a model 7, anon
And Remingtons are shit post 2000
>>30041480
The bolt lugs are not soldered on you retard
>>30041366
>>30041398
Get a load of these massive dick gargling faggots
get a Tikka instead.
I like mine.
>>30041766
svds arent really snipers, more dmrs if anything.
>>30041286
They get a lot of hate on /k/ because of some QC issues, but they're fine for 99% of people and LEO. I've had an older one for a long time now, but it's a fuddgun .243. I've never had any real issues with it.
If I were in the market for a new bolt gun I'd go for a Savage, or Tikka if you want to spend more.
>>30041286
Yes and no
Yes-It has a huge aftermarket, but you might as well just buy a bare action and save yourself some time and money.
No-You probably want something that you can put a decent optic on and touch things at longer distances. Buy a Savage. They come better optioned from the factory and have better triggers for cheaper than Remington. Avoid the Axis line and get a 10 or 110 with an accutrigger and accustock.
>>30042935
That's not a real distinction to make, considering "designated marksman" is the term that people use so they won't feel icky wicky when they say "sniper"
>>30041286
I like em, Tho it's a bit expensive to get a good one.
>>30041306
Less than 1 MOA out of box = terrible, huh?
Go hang yourself with concertina wire.
>>30043035
Snipers are trained to work in pairs to stalk and kill specific targets. A designated marksman is embedded with regular infantry to provide precise long range firepower. Th
>>30043019
This guy is a smart fellow.
Build your own R700, it is easy as crap.
Get a heavy barrel is my only advice.
>>30041286
>a faulty trigger mechanism that is extremely dangerous and unreliable in terms of safety and a high chance a round will go off if chambered and left there with the safety on
>Remington still denies this claim but takes in the rifles the customerd are bitching about the rifle and just add more glue and call it fixed then sends it back
Fuck Remington
>>30041286
I like mine in .243 win (took that because of laws some years ago here) it does the job. Aftermarket parts are plentiful so you can make it what you want.
Why do all the militaries use the rem 700 at the exclusion of others?
>>30043341
>Why do all the militaries use the rem 700
they don't.
>>30043341
The M40 is a different animal from the retail R700. Made in a different factory as well.
short action or regular?
>>30043047
You must be that redditor who was bragging about 1 moa at 25 yards
>>30043087
And you're saying that SVD would be used by one and not by the other?
Now let the grownups talk.
>>30043087
That might be the American doctrine. But it's not universal. Germany in particular send snipers into the field and inna tree solo. Are they not snipers or designated marksmen?
>>30043574
What do other nato nations use?
>>30043634
Why is this allowed?
>>30041286
Too expencive for the cheap ass parts it is built with. Some say its accurate out of the box, but cmon at this price EVERY rifle is as accurate. Its only (maybe) advantage is the amount of aftermarket pieces but again not worth replacing a KIAs engine with a Ferrari one right?
If you are from us i dont know what to suggest better but in europe you have a ton of better choices.
>>30042914
sexy desu
>>30043800
Every nation has a variety. US still uses m14s and the m82a1
France uses a mas36 still.
>>30043723
That would be more of a sniper role as they would be acting independently. Designated marksmen are regular infantry using full-sized rifles (i.e. not assault rifles) deal with situations in which an assault rifle won't cut it. They won't be out in the bush acting on their own.
>>30042935
What the fuck do you think "SVD" stands for?
>>30042914
parts list?
>>30043681
You must be that guy who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
Leave the gun talk to people who know about guns.
>>30041476
> He hasn't heard about the 21-foot-rule.
>>30044417
What I learned from a few years of dabbling in jiu jitsu is that if you're ready and prepared and trained, 21 feet is the rule. If you're some shlub off the street, it can become the 30 foot rule.
>>30044318
>Remington 700 Long Action, Std. bolt face.
>Pacnor 1-10 twist polygon rifling SS barrel #4 mag contour, blueprinted and chambered in 30-06.
>Flute and skeltonize bolt w/ SS tac knob
>Timney 510 Trigger (I worked on the trigger, grinned the shoe down to a comfortable size, sandblasted, heat treated, and set the weight to 3 lbs.)
>Black Cerakote the action and barrel, leaving the bolt bead blasted
>HS Precision Pro Sporter Stock, Winter Grassland Camo, Glassbedded
>Leopold dovetail one piece base w/ 1" medium rings
>Zeiss Conquest 6.5-20x50 Mildot scope with caps
>>30043681
You must be that guy who doesn't realize that 1 MOA at 25 yards is the same as 1 MOA at 100 yards, or 1 MOA at 1000 yards.
>>30044297
Serious Venereal Disease
>>30044604
It's not.
>>30041286
It used to be the gold standard in bolt action rifles. Now I wouldn't touch anything made by Remington with a ten-foot cattle prod.
>>30044698
The 870's are still nice. Mine is rather new production and feels way more solid than any mossberg I've held.
>>30044687
1" and 1 MOA are two different things, faggot.
>>30044017
Caliber and weather it's select fire or not doesn't factor into being a sniper rifle or not.
>>30044687
In a sense, yes it is. While the exact measures would change, as long as you stayed in the appropriate size (8" at 800 yards) you could say your gun is capable of 1 MOA at 800y etc. I'm not sure if that's what the other guy is getting at though.
>>30043706
The Russian "sniper" plays an American DMR role. That doesn't mean they don't have traditional snipers, I'm sure they do(I've been meaning to read up on this). But Russian snipers are basically DMRs in American standards.
>>30043800
US is currently using some maximum-over-tacticool development a few generations after R700
>>30044737
And? That was implied or stated. A 1" group at 25 yards doesn't translate past 100 yards anyway. I sense you're using the Ar15s 25/300 zero/poa as some sort of golden standard despite it fluctuating wildly between designs
>>30044687
>didn't even want to do a cursory internet search before digging himself deeper into the stupidpit
>>30044583
Also what the rifle is capable at 100 yards.
>>30044687
1 MOA at 25 yards is a .25" group
1 MOA at 100 yards is a 1" group
1 MOA at 1000 yards is a 10" group
The group I just posted is close to 1/4" MOA
>>30044801
Nobody said 1" at any point, honkey.
You're either actually retarded, in which case I'm sorry, or your reading comprehension is at kindergarten level, in which case kill yourself because you're an illiterate adult.
>>30044813
Whoops forgot the picture.
>>30044801
>That wasn't*
>>30044801
1 MOA = 1.047" at 100 yards, faggot.
And no, I wouldn't use a retarded ass zero like that. 200 yard zero or go home.
>>30044827
>$5 buck lunch
>five dollars buck lunch
>>30044604
>>30044687
>>30044737
>>30044752
This argument comes up a lot. 1 MOA is a unit of angle. It's 1/60th of a degree. So when I say 1 MOA I don't need to specify a distance. But here's the thing. Rifle bullets get gradually less stable the farther they go. So if my rifle can shoot a 1" group at 100 yards, that doesn't necessarily mean that it can shoot a 10" group at 1000 yards. The bullets might begin to experience a bit of precession, or wobbling on their axis, depending on the twist rate, ballistic coefficient, whatever. So when we're talking about how accurate a real world rifle is, it is important to say at what distance the accuracy was measured.
They are great rifles and are extremely accurate. Just dont point the muzzle at anyone because they fire by themselves.
>>30044827
See
>>30044737
>1" and 1 MOA are two different things, f
Some implied formula works well on paper only. Using that as an example my 1911 must be a 1 moa at 800 yards then
>>30043800
various, e.g. AW and TRG
>>30041286
Alright rifle. Not great out of the box. But more can be done with it afterwards compared to a savage or something. If you're willing to do a bit to it. Go for that. If not, savage model 10. Toss the cash you save into optics or soemthing of the like
>A tricked out 700 is just as good and just as expensive as a nice expensive european/custom american rifle
>A stock tikka T3 or savage model 10 is head over heels better than a stock 700 of the factory floor today
source: im an ausfag so I own all three, boltguns 4 lyfe.
>>30043035
Sniper =/= designated marksman
Fucking idiot.
>>30041398
And machine guns are obsolete for jets now, right?
>>30041293
>no bayonet lug
>implying your fat ass will ever charge anyone with a bayonet
>>30044796
360 NO SCOPE
It's literally an MSR.
>>30044870
Wait i'm confused,
Your arguing that , on paper, one moa is one moa through out a given range.
I.e a 1 moa gun at 7 yards will be 1 moa at 500 yards? and hence the outlandish 1911 comment ... or I am Just engrishing wrong?
>>30044297
You are now aware that the term sniper means different things for different nations.
>>30044583
Why'd you go with poly? From what I understand it reduces barrel life compared to 5r and such.
>>30045683
>From what I understand it reduces barrel life compared to 5r and such.
lolwut where'd you get that from?
>>30045752
If I recall correct there were a couple threads in Sniper'shide and some other site, I was thinking about getting a Pacnor Barrel and saw that as an option and dug around for a bit.
Got any info on em I couldn't find much but then again I might be blind.
>>30043800
Accuracy internationals are common for commonwealth countries
>>30044813
yes, but the implication that
>It's just as easy to get a 1" group at 100 yards as it is to get a 5" group at 500 yards
is false.
>>30045348
You're totally right, faggot. Please show us the Russian military doctrine that says that "Designated Marksman" carry SVDs and "Snipers" use something else.
>>30044687
Really mate.
1MOA is a ratio, it means your hit circle diameter is 1" @ 100yards, so 1MOA at 25 yards is all rounds in a .25" circle, which would be less than the diameter of most rounds you'd fire out of a 700.
>>30043035
Wot, Designated Marksmen are integrated into a regular squad to extend the effective range.
Snipers are usually a platoon leveraged asset.
>>30045901
>>30045984
>>30045944
Step 1: Follow thread
Step 2: Learn context
Step 3: Stop looking like a dumbass
>>30044796
>US is currently using
As far as I know the shit was to be adopted in 300 mag but not sure if they are actually issuing these since the obongo cuts came down.
>>30044768
contradiction the post.
>>30041286
It's not a Howa or Savage
>>30045645
The argument was, If 1 moa at 25 yards is .25" circle and somehow it automatically means you're an amazing shot at 500 yards because moa terminology and paper formulas without actually shooting said moa at 500y than my 1911 must be a sniper rifle.
>>30046135
Elaborate, because you seem to not know what you are talking about.
>>30045790
At the time, my business' best barrel was Pacnor, and all we had was a poly left in 30 cal. Since then we have become a distributor for Bartlein and Proof so... eh. For $200 I really can't complain about the barrel. Plus I don't shoot it often, it's my hunting rifle.
No opinion, I've never shot past 100 yards =(
>>30043634
What is the closest thing someone can get to an m40?
What are the build specs, I don't think I can just drive up to Carolina, present my military ID and just order one.
>>30046740
don't bother.
>>30046740
What
>>30046756
said. If you really want to get into it... well be prepared for spending a bit.
http://www.gaprecision.net/mil-spec-rifles/m40a5.html
I'm looking to build an Ultimate Fudd Rifle for deer and blackbear hunting, but I'm unsure what to get as I don't want a Remington as they're shit and I don't want a Winchester because they're made by the same people who created Brazil.
Anyone have any opinions on Montana Rifle Company?
>>30046847
Why not a Browing BAR?
The fudd bar, not pic related.
>>30046864
IIRC Browning rifles all have detachable magazines and the bolt doesn't lock when in the safe position, both of which I hate for a hunting rifle (otherwise I would get a Savage).
Not interested in an autoloader as I already have a 300 Blackout AR for that category of firearms.
>>30046775
Do usmc armorors sell there services/ moonlight to civilians?
What's thier mos, I go in august to boot as a reservist. If I can't buy thier services why not learn the trade?
>>30046902
The browning A/X bolt series don't have detachable mags. I don't remember if the bolt locks closed when safe.
>tfw my a bolt was made in japan and i secretly want to dress her up in an Arisaka stock
>>30046920
Why would you want to? They're parts swappers.
>1911 is a sniper.
If you did your part, and lobbed that bullet perfectly, then yes. If it was truly a 1 moa gun, then mechanically the spread is 1 moa as long as the bullet remains stabilized. Period.
However, you wont do that. Because you arent that good of a shot, and couldnt call the wind to lob it properly every time, especially since a .45 is sub sonic would walk in the wind harshly.
If the gun is truly 1 moa capable, then it is 1 moa capable.
The problem is, most people test their rifles capabilities at 100 yards, which is actually pretty close for a rifle's true range. 100 yards does not show the ammunitions capabilities well. I.e. a SD of 50 may not print any differently.
At 100 yards you will be fooled into thinking the load is sub moa, but when moved out to 400 that prints a 4 moa spread.
This is likely what he was talking about. But if you were to have an SD that is single digits, with a 1 moa gun.. it will print 1 moa. Period. Because the 1 moa is the mechanical limitation of spread.
Tldr just because you print a .4" group once at 100 does not mean you have a .4 MOA system. If you have a high SD you will find that number to be wildly different at range.
>>30046920
The army doesn't actually manufacture guns. They buy them from contractors. Armorers are tasked with maintaining the weapons.
>>30043634
Holy shit, where do they make the M40 series?
