"Of course, if the Korean War or Vietnam War are replayed, then we will have to defend ourselves." The so-called "nine-dash line" that China has drawn over most of the South China Sea —
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/19/china-says-its-ready-if-us-stirs-up-any-conflict-in-south-china-sea.html
China's Fishing Ban Adds an Entanglement for Vietnam in South China Sea
Beijing injected an extra irritant into its long-running dispute with its neighbors with the South China Sea as it announced its annual ban on fishing in the area and vowed to stop vessels that drop a line into the contested waters.
China’s move brought a condemnation from Vietnamese fishermen on Monday, as their representative said the move is illegal and threatens their livelihood.
“They can apply the ban in their water, not in our water because that would violate our law,” said Nguyen Viet Thang, chairman of Vietnamese Fishery Association.
“We have said before that the ban does not have any validity to Vietnamese fishermen,” he told RFA’s Vietnamese Service.
http://www.rfa.org/english/news/vietnam/chinas-fishing-ban-05162016170509.html
>No Chinese
fisherman ships are prohibited from entering in the Yellow Line(China's EEZ) in South China Sea, said China official.
China is going for the shitty neighbor of the decade award.
>>29999756
Do they actually believe the shit they say? That clearly-defined international waters are rightfully theirs?
I don't see how any sane person could believe that the US sailing through international waters is stirring shit up.
>>29999756
>>No Chinese fisherman ships are prohibited from entering in the Yellow Line(China's EEZ) in South China Sea, said China official.
maritime blockade.
Perfect, just perfect. China continues to make an ass of themselves without USA's help. Once China takes over every territory and company in Asia, everyone will come running towards USA.
>>29999999
Checked
>>29999756
South China Sea: 2 Chinese Fighters Conduct 'Unsafe' Intercept of US EP-3 Recon Aircraft
The incident could have violated existing bilateral procedures between the United States and China.
On Tuesday, in international airspace over the South China Sea, two Chinese fighter jets flew dangerously close to a U.S. EP-3 Aries signals reconnaissance aircraft. Lt. Col. Michelle Baldanza, a spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Defense, confirmed on Wednesday to NBC News that “two tactical aircraft from the People’s Republic of China” had attempted a dangerous intercept against the U.S. patrol aircraft, coming with 50 feet.
The two aircraft were reportedly J-11 fighters, some of which have been stationed on Woody Island in the Paracel Islands since November 2015. The incident is being further investigated by U.S. Pacific Command.
Contacts between Chinese and U.S. aerial assets in the South China Sea are common occurrences, with fixed procedures; this incident is notable precisely because the U.S. Defense Department is describing it as unsafe, suggesting that the Chinese pilots involved behaved unprofessionally.
>>29999999
Witnessed.
>>30000000
>>29999999
Epic septs bro.
>>29999999
>>>29999756 (OP)
>>>No Chinese fisherman ships are prohibited from entering in the Yellow Line(China's EEZ) in South China Sea, said China official.
>maritime blockade.
Wow so checked famfam
>>30000097
Moreover, this isn’t the first unsafe intercept by Chinese fighters against U.S. surveillance aircraft. Similar incidents have taken place in August 2014 and September 2015, most recently. The August 2014 incident took place in international airspace off China’s Hainan Island, in the South China Sea, while the less serious September 2015 incident took place in airspace off the Shandong peninsula.
In 2001, a collision occurred between a U.S. EP-3 Aries and a Chinese fighter jet near Hainan Island. That incident resulted in the death of the Chinese pilot involved, damaged both aircraft, grounding the U.S. EP-3 on Hainan, and spiraled into a major diplomatic crisis.
To prevent a repeat of the Hainan incident, as the 2001 episode came to be known, the United States and China, in November 2014, adopted a memorandum to regulate the “safety of air and maritime encounters” between their militaries. In September 2015, the two countries added a supplement to strengthen the provisions of the joint memorandum.
It may turn out that the behavior of the Chinese pilots in Tuesday’s incident violated the procedures set out in the memorandum, potentially setting back trust between the two countries. So far, the Pentagon has outlined the scope of the incident generally, without assigning culpability. Baldanza’s written statement reportedly noted that “Over the past year, DoD has seen improvements in PRC actions, flying in a safe and professional manner.”
>tfw family in Vietnam is fucking livid about this
Burn china
>>29999983
>Do they actually believe the shit they say?
Sort of. There's a lot of doublethink going on in Chinese minds.
>>30000124
In January 2015, the head of the U.S. and Chinese navies, Admiral John Richardson and Admiral Wu Shengli, had expressed their satisfaction with the multilateral Code for Unplanned Encounters at Sea (CUES), a “non-binding, voluntary agreement to follow certain set procedures for communicating with other military forces encountered at sea or in the air,” as my colleague Shannon Tiezzi had explained after CUES was adopted in April 2014, at the Western Pacific Naval Symposium, by the United States, China, and other regional states.
Indeed, despite increased tensions in the South China Sea between the United States and China amid increasingly regular FONOPs, military-to-military communications have generally been good and cordial. Tuesday’s unsafe intercept will cast a pall over that record, raising tensions between the two countries.
The incident comes days after the U.S. Navy’s most recent freedom of navigation operation (FONOP) in the South China Sea and the U.S. Department of Defense released its annual assessment of China’s military capabilities.
Though the report is an annual occurrence, the Chinese government reacted angrily, with the foreign ministry suggesting that the Pentagon had ”deliberately distorted” facts and “severely damaged mutual trust between the two sides.”
The incident also comes as regional states and the United States eagerly await the decision of the Hague-based Permanent Court of Arbitration on the merits of the Philippines’ case against China over its maritime claims in the South China Sea.
>>29999756
>China continues being a shit
>all their neighbors gang up, try to take a shot
>China fires back brutally
>US doesn't like, war with China
>remove fortune cookie, no more cheap "Made In China" bullshit, no more foreign debt owed to China
>>30000097
>>30000124
>>30000165
Chinese jets intercept US spy plane over South China Sea, Pentagon says
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36328464
>>30000128
Fourth Indochina War when
Afghanistan Voices Support on China's Position in South China Sea
http://english.cri.cn/12394/2016/05/19/4081s928117.htm
>>30000379
China praises Mozambique, Burundi, Slovenia for support on South China Sea
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2016-05/19/c_135372702.htm
Source: Xinhua | 2016-05-19 20:35:48 | Editor: huaxia
BEIJING, May 19 (Xinhua) -- China appreciates the support of the governments of Mozambique, Burundi and Slovenia on its stance on the South China Sea issue, Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hong Lei said Thursday.
The three governments back China's efforts to resolve territorial and maritime disputes with directly involved countries through consultation and negotiation, Hong said at a regular news briefing.
"Burundi calls for correct understanding of China's exclusion of compulsory procedures to resolve the disputes, while Slovenia fully supports China's position on international arbitration of the issue," the spokesperson said.
He said the three governments' positions "help safeguard international fairness and justice."
Some 40 countries have expressed support for China's stance as an international tribunal in The Hague is due to announce its decision in May or June for an arbitration case filed by the Philippines against China over maritime disputes.
China has refused to accept or participate in the arbitration. It declared in 2006 it would exclude compulsory arbitration on disputes concerning maritime delimitation, a right guaranteed under Article 298 of the UN Convention of the Law of the Sea.
China advocates a dual-track approach to solving the disputes. The directly concerned states should negotiate in line with international law as China and ASEAN countries work together to maintain regional peace and stability.
>>30000098
What a waste of two good rolls
>>29999999
>>30000432
Wait... Slovenia?
>>29999999
>tfw instead of a cool stronk modern Imperial China we got a shitty faux-communist China
I JUST WANT MY IMPERIAL JAPAN 2.0
IS THAT TOO MUCH TO FUCKING ASK FOR
>>29999999
>>29999999
What
We should send a carrier group to the area immediately and park it in the territory they claim. These slant eyed fucks are NOT going to bully the US.
>>30000505
>>30000575
>the territory they claim
>>China-Arab Cooperation
South China Sea WW3: 22 Arab Countries Support China’s Territorial Claim
Arab countries in support of South China Sea stance
Source: Xinhua | May 16, 2016, Monday | Print Edition
CHINA’S stance on the South China Sea is backed by many Arab countries, which expressed staunch support for Beijing’s efforts to settle the issue peacefully.
In a statement issued at the 7th Ministerial Meeting of China-Arab Cooperation Forum, the participating Arab countries said they supported China’s efforts to resolve territorial and maritime differences through friendly dialogue and negotiation.
They also stressed that the rights of sovereign nations as well as the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea signatories to choose how to solve their disputes should be respected.
http://www.shanghaidaily.com/nation/Arab-countries-in-support-of-South-China-Sea-stance/shdaily.shtml
can someone give me a run-down of WHY china believes all that ocean belongs to them? And not any of the other countries around there?
>>30000810
>believes
Why do you think de jure ownership has anything to do with this? If they have the might to claim it, they can.
>>30000768
Wang Yi Talks about China's Four-Point Consensus on South China Sea Issue with Brunei, Cambodia and Laos
http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/zxxx_662805/t1358478.shtml
>On April 23, 2016, Foreign Minister Wang Yi expressed at inquiry when meeting with journalists in Laos that, during
>my visits to Brunei, Cambodia and Laos, I have exchanged in-depth views with all parties on current situation of
>the South China Sea, and reached important consensus respectively. The consensus can be summarized as follows:
>First, China and the three countries all agree that disputes over some Nansha islands and reefs are not an issue
>between China and the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), and should not affect China-ASEAN relations.
>Second, China and the three countries all agree that the right enjoyed by sovereign states to choose on their own
>ways to solve disputes in line with the international law should be respected, and an imposition of unilateral will on
>others is opposed.
>Third, China and the three countries also agree that disputes over territorial and maritime rights and interests should
>be resolved through dialogues and consultations by parties directly concerned under Article 4 of the Declaration on
>the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (DOC).
>Fourth, China and the three countries believe that China and ASEAN countries are able to jointly maintain peace and
>stability in the South China Sea through cooperation. Countries outside the region should play a constructive role rather
>than the other way round.
Team Great China in South China Sea:
China
S.Korea
N.Korea
Brunei, Cambodia, Laos
Afghanistan >>30000379
Mozambique, Burundi, Slovenia >>30000432
22 Arab Countries >>30000768
>>29999999
DO IT AMERICA
>>29999999
checked
>>29999756
Remove fortune cookie
China's stance on South China Sea issue has widespread support
http://english.cctv.com/2016/05/19/VIDEmLbAHQoaxxa760BZ2oip160519.shtml
China has widespread support in the international community for its stance on the South China Sea issue.
Afghanistan and Cambodia have voiced their support for China in rejecting the arbitration case initiated by the Philippines at The Hague over the South China Sea issue. The countries are the latest outside and inside the region to line up behind China's calls for bilateral talks on the issue.
According to Xinhua News Agency, about 40 countries have expressed support for China's stance on the South China Sea issue, including some 20 member countries of the Arab League and some ASEAN countries .
China's stance on South China Sea issue has widespread support
Chinese FM: China appreciates Togo's stance on South China Sea issue
http://english.cctv.com/2016/05/19/VIDEBbaAKKZfzAZ76jJgoVpU160519.shtml
>>30001070
Fuck off Chang
>>30000842
And we can de facto shit all over thier claims.
>>30001070
>CCTV
kek
Why don't you cite RT or Farsnews while you're at it.
>>29999983
>Do they actually believe the shit they say? That clearly-defined international waters are rightfully theirs?
They do. And the only reason they get away with shit like this is because they know that the countries in the area cannot do a single fucking thing against the might of China and the US is too scared to do anything other than scowl and shout angry threats.
>>30001070
>China's stance on South China Sea issue has widespread support
Yeah, there's almost 1.4 billion people who wouldn't dare dream of not supporting it.
>Afghanistan and Cambodia have voiced their support
Afghanistan? Mentioning them like this only highlights how full of shit you are.
>>30000128
Proxy war with China fighting an America funded Vietnam, it would be epic.
>>30000188
>remove fortune cookie
Hitler dubs of truth.
China angered by Britain's comments on South China Sea
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-southchinasea-china-britain-idUKKCN0XH0QS
China Asks Russia for Help Against Philippines in South China Sea
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/04/20/beijing-looks-team-moscow-south-china-sea-court-battle/
>>30001493
I can't wait for a Sino-American war and American soldiers interrogating Chinese POWs.
>LISTEN HERE YOU FORTUNE COOKIE-EATING DOG-COOKING MOTHERFUCKER
>"does this gwailo think I'm a dog-eating Cantonese? also what the fuck is a fortune cookie?"
>>29999999
Ch-ch-checked
>>30001516
>China Asks Russia for Help Against Philippines in South China Sea
Help, this tiny speck of a country waaaaay away from you are pushing our shit in. Help! Come rescue us!
>>29999999
Make it so.
>>30001070
>>30001516
>China Asks Russia for Help Against Philippines in South China Sea
China says has wide support for stance on South China Sea case
China has widespread support in the international community for its decision not to have anything to do with a legal case lodged by the Philippines against Chinese claims in the South China Sea, a senior diplomat said on Thursday.
China has been stepping up its rhetoric ahead of a ruling expected in a few weeks by the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague on the Philippines case.
China says it is fully within its rights not to participate in what it views as forced arbitration, and says the Philippines is using the case to directly undermine Chinese sovereignty.
In February, the United States and the European Union said China should respect the ruling. The court has no powers of enforcement and its rulings have been ignored before.
Xu Hong, head of the Chinese foreign ministry's Department of Treaties and Law, said the issue was being hyped up by people who lack a proper understanding of international law.
"We can see so many countries coming to the fore hyping this issue up, but it doesn't matter how loud their voices are, they still represent a minority of countries in the world," he told a news briefing.
"If you look at who is talking about international law all the time, it is politicians and non-professionals with ulterior motives. It is them who really need to learn something about international law."
>>30001550
I want them to try an invasion of Commiefornia.
>Destroy San Francisco, libtard central.
>I get to fight chinks in the foothills.
>All that Chinese milsurp to scavenge.
>>30001825
The foreign ministry has in recent weeks been claiming support for its South China Sea position from countries as diverse as Cambodia and Yemen.
Xu said no country would accept compulsory arbitration when core interests were at stake.
"Actually there are a number of voices of reason on this issue from genuine international law experts who have had some serious and objective comments, but all those comments have been neglected or ignored by some people," he said.
"Some people are trying to change the concept stealthily to confound right and wrong and black and white. They may be able to mislead public opinion for some time but eventually lies are lies and even repeated a thousand times will not become truth," Xu said.
China had always been a firm defender and practitioner of international law, he said.
"We don't feel isolated at all."
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-southchinasea-china-idUSKCN0Y30GB
Conclusion;
"We can see so many countries coming to the fore hyping this issue up, but it doesn't matter how loud their voices are, they still represent a minority of countries in the world"
"If you look at who is talking about international law all the time, it is politicians and non-professionals with ulterior motives. It is them who really need to learn something about international law."
>"We(China) don't feel isolated at all !!"
>>30001854
>China bringing in the opinions of literally who countries that literally have zero stake in the SCS and pretending their opinions are actually relevant.
This is literally Russian level damage control.
>>30001070
So unimportant countries that can be bought/intimidated/have an axe to grind with the US support them. Well it must be legit then.
>>30001825
>"We can see so many countries coming to the fore hyping this issue up, but it doesn't matter how loud their voices are, they still represent a minority of countries in the world," he told a news briefing.
lmao
fuggin chinks
>>30001825
>>30001854
Yes, we know the Chinese are producing an endless stream of bullshit, no need to expose us to it.
>>30001374
Ignoring that China gets its panties in a knot every time the US sails a ship by its manufactured islands.
>>30001989
Prease reave
>>30001998
Silly anon, we all know that a REAL chink wouldn't be able to access 4chan...
>>30001469
Because it worked so well last time Anerica tried a proxy war in Nam
>>30002636
You didn't really think that out did you.
>>29999756
yfw China actually does it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULtzgE9mJD8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA_9LTM-uXU
The first victim of China's secret weapon.
The B-52 was the same that flew over China's islands back then.
>>30002930
°_°7
>>30002974
are they saying it was shot down?
>>30002974
They all survived, so I'm guessing that it wasn't shot down. Generally speaking, those planes are so floppy and the airframes are so stressed that if a missile was to hit a B-52 wing, it would just shear right off. Sounds like engine failure during the critical power down landing timeframe.
See this is the kind of shit that gives me hope that China will piss us off enough to warrant early obliteration.
They are possibly doing all this BS while they can before Trump gets in office. I guarantee you the day he gets elected the whole world is going to stand still, shut up, and watch.
>>30002930
Always hated those fucking chinks. Bring it on, slanty boys.
>>30002930
New one:
052D vs Atago-class
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuU2VaLDuns
Muh Scenario confirms the outcome :DDD
>>30003331
Good video depicting China's newest sensor and weapon platforms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUNapJQxgyM
Its smart brinkmanship on their part. They don't think the U.S. cares about the SCS enough to go to war over it,
What they want is to provoke a fight out of a weaker country to test out their fancy new toys.
>>30002930
I heartily laughed
>>30002906
Fine Bay of Pigs
>>29999999
Septs confirm a naval blockade of china by the usn
>30000000
>>30000432
Mozambique, Burundi, and fucking Slovenia. Well if that isn't the next dream team I don't know what is.
i don't think there's gonna be a widespread war
just the america putting like 3 carrier forces in the specific ocean and souf china c
they're gonna do a dick waving contest and one of them is gonna back out,unless some retarded person actually fires a round,even that would be hard to justify as a casus belli
>>30004140
Mozambique is succing china's dingaling for financial help since Yuroop isnt interested in that
Burundi is landlocked and probably supporting china to stake a claim in the South China Sea
Slovenia want some of dat dere chinko tourist coming in and establishing an air link
>>29999999
>>29999756
you cant just make islands in international waters and then say its your water because it has a fake island that you made...it dosnt work like that. wannabe communist idiots.
>>29999999
>>29999999
>>30004260
>you cant just
You're stopping them?
>>30003331
Impressive
Japan technology has always been lacking compared to China technology
>>29999999
I like how other countries get to show their capabilities and not just some American circlejerk and crab mentality of bringing down the capabilities of others
>>29999756
Can't wait for America to slap their shit, shit would be SO cash
>>29999999
>>29999999
dubs undoes your septs
How soon till World War Three, /k/ommandos? Am I gonna get drafted?
>>29999756
>"Of course, if the Korean War or Vietnam War are replayed, then we will have to defend ourselves."
The only thing China would have to do in a Korean or Vietnam war would be not get involved. Neither of those wars were any threat to China itself.
The real question is whether China's neighbors would rather live with Monroe Doctrine or Chairman Mao Doctrine. I'm betting everybody besides Best Korea prefers Monroe Doctrine.
I mean, I understand that China *wishes* it could declare SE Asia off-limits to foreign power, the way the US did with the western hemisphere, but that ship has already sailed.
>tfw your new President is a China lover
Fug
>>29999999
New fag here.
First time seeing that many
Checked
>>30004458
America is.
>>30003321
Yes good gook/goyim, kill the chinks who own lots of our debt for us.
>rubs hands.
>>30005363
Is it that crazy flip? I feel sorry for you island monkeys.
>>30005578
Sounds great to me.
You aren't chinese, are you?
>>30000128
>>30000538
Amazing how things turn around, isn't it.
>>29999756
so, If China gets land of vietnam and philippines...?
kill the chinks, make china a U.S colony, bring the spheres of influences back.
pls amreica, make it happen before its too late
Someone post that comic with "chicom pride crushed"
>>29999756
China
we war you
>>30002930
they have anti-raptor ballistic missiles now too i see
>>30006928
>>29999756
What is different between Yellow line>>29999756 and territorial claims (Nine dash line/China's Red tongue) ?
>>29999756
All the US has to do is park a carrier in the region. China can't and wont do shit to it because it'll mean getting stomped.
>>30007032
>>30000905
1st stage in SCS dispute
China,Laos, cambodia v.s. Vietnam
>>30004492
Yeah anime usually has shit CGI. This isn't much better though.
>>30003349
are they seriously using Arma 2 for their stupid propaganda vids?
>>30004458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guG9cVs3ms4
Kill all chinks scum
>>29999756
hey shitbrain, what are you doing on the other side of globe?
>>30007204
Judging from the dodgy google translation of the description it looks like that one's an unofficial video.
>军武次位面的“次”是“次时代”的意思,其特点是使用了大量游戏、电影电视剧中的画面,使得本来比较专业的军事类视频有着很强的视觉冲击力
so it looks like the guy took footage from games to make his video look cool or something.
>>29999756
>tfw other countries are preparing for the periodic lull in American warmongering that follows a region being overused by our military as a meat/economic farm
>tfw gearing up for more island-hopping
That moment when you realize you're on 'the bad guys' team and you begin to enjoy it.
>>30000188
People who understand foreign debt and diplomatic relations between the indebted country and the rest of humanity would call you retarded.
>>30001825
>>China Asks Russia for Help Against Philippines in South China Sea
Vietnam open to Russian return to Cam Ranh Bay
https://rbth.com/news/2016/05/18/vietnam-open-to-russian-return-to-cam-ranh-bay_594025
If war broke out with china, it wont, but if it did, any hopes of being recruited into the US army as an international for Vietnam 2?
Assuming my nation wouldn't join in
>>29999756
>Biggest game of chicken
>happening
>>30007567
china would be harder than vietnam wouldn't it?
>>30007584
Yeah, but cucking the chinks is a cause worth fighting for
>>30007587
The Vietnam war ended with the US running away and the commies in power.
If you think China is an even harder nut to crack, then expect an even poorer outcome.
China orders US to end surveillance missions after latest South China Sea Incident
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/05/20/china-orders-us-to-end-surveillance-missions-after-latest-south-china-sea-incident.html
China on Thursday ordered the U.S. to end its surveillance patrols around the contested South China Sea region after the Pentagon said Chinese fighter jets “buzzed” a U.S. military reconnaissance plane in an “unsafe manner” earlier this week.
South China Sea: Is China upping the stakes?
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/19/opinions/china-u-s-military-flight-intercept/index.html
Two Chinese J-11 fighter aircraft carried out an "unsafe" intercept of a United States EP-3E "Aires II" reconnaissance aircraft in international airspace over the South China Sea, according to the U.S. Department of Defense.
During the incident, which took place Tuesday, the fighters reportedly came within 50 feet (15 meters) of the Navy plane.
Flying two supersonic fighter jets within 50 feet of a four-engine turboprop aircraft is dangerous, especially when the pilots cannot communicate effectively with each other, nor are the intentions of the intercepting aircraft clear.
One mistake, either in judgment or airmanship, could result in a lethal incident.
This is not theory -- it has happened in this same airspace with almost the identical participants. In April 2001, a Navy EP-3E was intercepted by a Chinese J-8 fighter.
The Chinese pilot misjudged the distance between his fighter and the Navy aircraft. He attempted to do a zoom climb from under the aircraft and pull up immediately in front of the cockpit. He clipped the aircraft, lost control and crashed, resulting in his death.
The EP-3E was severely damaged and was saved only by the skill of the flight crew.
Unfortunately, the crippled plane made an emergency landing at a Chinese air base - thereby compromising the technical capabilities of the aircraft's electronic intelligence gathering capabilities.
>>30002412
I'm assuming you haven't seen the video where a US plane flew near the islands and a Chinese radio operator was veeery passively aggressively telling them to 'PREASE REAVE YOU ARE IN RESTRICTED AIRSPACE'
>>30007603
Yeah, but the US ran away because of civil issues, not because it couldn't beat charlie
The US would fuck china about, and it'd be a much more conventional war, another point in the US's favour
>American Spy Plane goes into Chinese air zone
>routine non aggressive flight
>Flagged down by Chinese planes defending islands
>Tells the world that Chinese planes are harassing the spy plane that is taking pictures of Chinese defense
The act of taking pictures of Chinese defense is of itself a offensive act that China has all the rights to stop. America is a hippocrite.
>>30002412
they can though. all you need to do is buy a pass since google is blocked
>Indonesia considering South China Sea patrols with Malaysia, Philippines: Military chief
General Gatot Nurmantyo says he will soon meet with his Malaysian and Philippine counterparts to discuss details of the patrols in the Sulu and Sulawesi Sea. He may also bring up conducting joint patrols in the South China Sea. http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/indonesia-considering/2799990.html
>SCS exercises, Masood Azhar and NSG on the agenda as President heads to China
http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/south-china-sea-exercises-masood-azhar-and-nsg-on-the-agenda-as-president-heads-to-china-next-week/article8624332.ece
"When there is some trouble in the South China Sea, obviously India gets worried, and when Indian ships participate in maritime exercises in the South China Sea, of course, China will show concern," a Chinese diplomat said.
India has brushed off concerns that naval exercises in the South China Sea and trilateral exercises with Japan and the U.S. would affect the upcoming visit of President Pranab Mukherjee to China from May 24-27.
“Indian ship visits have been happening often, it’s quite a normal thing, it isn’t only happening this time,” said Joint Secretary Pradeep Kumar Rawat when asked about the issue. On Wednesday, four warships of the Indian Navy’s eastern fleet set sail for a series of port calls and exercises in East Asia that will last nearly three months. The ships will conduct exercises in the contentious South China Sea, much of which is claimed by China, as well as ‘Exercise Malabar’ off Okinawa, held with the U.S., and including Japan as a permanent member for the first time.
>>30007622
>International waters are Chinese
>Routine escorts are done by buzzing so close that it causes the aircraft to correct itself or crash
>ELINT aircraft take pictures.
3.28 yuan have been deposited into your account.
>>30007609
>During the incident, which took place Tuesday, the fighters reportedly came within 50 feet (15 meters) of the Navy plane.
Beijing Denies Dangerous Interception of U.S. Spy Plane Over South China Sea
http://www.wsj.com/articles/beijing-denies-dangerous-interception-of-u-s-spy-plane-over-south-china-sea-1463659016
Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said Thursday that the Chinese jets maintained a “safe distance” while intercepting the U.S. aircraft over the South China Sea on Tuesday. Speaking at a routine briefing, Mr. Hong urged Washington to stop such “close-in reconnaissance activities,” saying they pose a security threat to China.
U.S. defense officials earlier said the Pentagon is reviewing initial accounts that two Chinese J-11 fighters made an “unsafe” interception of a U.S. Navy EP-3 spy plane in international airspace. One official said the American pilot had dropped altitude out of concern after one of the Chinese jets closed the distance between the planes to about 50 feet.
>50 feet (15 meters) is “safe distance”
- Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei
>>30007609
>the crippled plane made an emergency landing at a Chinese air base - thereby compromising the technical capabilities of the aircraft's electronic intelligence gathering capabilities.
Well that was fucking stupid of them...
>>30007713
I don't get why these planes don't have better destruction techniques. Those bumblefucks were pouring coffee on things iirc and only managed to destroy around a third of the equipment/intelligence.
Flip here, let's be real
America won't wage war over these islands even if you remove us and Taiwan from the equation
The Korean-Japanese-Chinese sea however is another story
>>30007736
Benigno Aquino Says U.S. Must Act if China Moves on Reef in South China Sea
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/20/world/asia/benigno-aquino-philippines-south-china-sea.html
>>30007723
You would be wrong.
The chinese let the plane sit on the tarmac for 15 minutes after the 26 minute flight after impact. You give a retard an hour with a screwdriver he could hatefuck the inside. The only thing the chinks got was the physical elint recivers on the plane.
>>30007775
The thing I read must have painted a worse picture then, thanks for clearing that up.
>>30007713
Hainan Island incident
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident
On April 1, 2001, the Hainan Island incident occurred when a mid-air collision between a United States Navy EP-3E ARIES II signals intelligence aircraft and a People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) J-8II interceptor fighter jet resulted in an international dispute between the United States of America and the People's Republic of China.
>>30007786
That is part of DOD procedure, but its litterally the first thing you do if you think that you have zero time. It then progresses to more through means of distruction, if that makes sense.
But yeah, they had about 45 mins to fuck everything.
>>30007745
Benigno Aquino will step down in a month and our new President favors bilateral ties with China and told the US ambassador here to piss off
i kinda iffy with china, we could probably take them but the consequences of being on bad terms with them could be dire. look around your house and you'll realize a majority of items in your home were made or assembled in china or have Chinese manufactured components, its not quality shit but it works
>tfw I'm typing on a monitor that was assembled in dongguan
>keyboard made in china
>mouse made in china
>Graphics card has some Chinese components.
I need to buy more American products.
>>30007845
Your twisting it a little bit. First, the bilateral ties would only be a last resort if the arbitration court favors the Philippines but China wouldn't give a fuck which is most likely to happen. Second, the only instance he told the US ambassador to sod off was during that rape joke and last, he was really pissed as to why we lost the Scarborough Shoal so easily.
>>29999756
Lol China. You are going to starve soon. Keep riding Harleys as a sign of wealth and sipping coors light literally sold there as of it were Champaign in a corned bottle. China is like that one trailer trash neighbor that won 100000 bucks in scratch tickets. Making foolish choices with money they have no idea how to use.
>>30007549
What's Russia's stake in this.
Heard they supply Vietnam with ships and submarines, but can they help them develop nukes?
>>30007864
Signalling bilateral ties even before the ruling ends means we are already giving up and are moving on
Everyone and their mother knows that China won't accept the ruling especially if it disfavors them
>>30007908
It's still is a last resort. He'll probably look for other ways, and that includes modernizing the armed forces which is sure to piss China off because apparently, the Philippines is not allowed to upgrade their tech.
>>30007934
>the Philippines is not allowed to upgrade their tech.
U wot m8? We had the fastest and most comprehensive military build-up these past six years
If anything we are only limited by shekels and snail's pace procurement process and even then;
>12 FA-50s, 2 already arrived and the ones that carry some Korean/Lockshill AESA
>100+ M113s from excess Murrica stocks and 20 upgraded Israeli ones
>14 new AW109s
>14 more Hueys (lel)
>2 used, stripped and unarmed USCG cutters
>2 new AW159 Wildcats
>2 new Poo in a Loo light frigates
>2 new Indonesian SSVs
>6 new Korean AAV-7s
>1 excess C-130 from Murrica, 1 more incoming
>3 new C-295s from Spain
>2 more light transport aircraft from Indonesia
>3 landing craft hand me downs from Australia
>1 used Korean corvette
>40,000 new M4s (from Remington lel)
If we were as rich as Thailand or Malaysia we'd certainly get more and not from the milsurp hand me down market
>>30008007
It was sarcasm from him. According to china your not allowed.
>>29999999
>>30002930
>>30003331
>tfw at least I 'm american and I know my country could bomb another country back to the stone age rather than just pretending we can
^_^
>>30008007
i wonder how much more we could have bought if we weren't so corrupt and the funds weren't mismanaged
>>30007549
If Jews are the treacherous people of the financial sector, then surely Russians are the treacherous people of the military sector. They'll sell their weapons to every side.
>>30008007
>rich as Malaysia
fuck m8 we've been hit hard by declining oil prices
and our fucking leader have a money guzzling wife and kids
he's almost as unpopular as Nixon after Watergate
>>30007845
Incoming president said:
“I will ask the Navy to bring me to the nearest point in South China Sea that is tolerable to them and I will ride a jet ski. I will carry a flag and when I reach Spratlys, I will erect the Filipino flag. I will tell them (Chinese), Suntukan (boxing) o barilan (shooting)?”
>>30000810
Odds are they don't believe their own claims, they're doing it out of necessity. The fishing waters that actually belong to China are heavily depleted. If they don't expand their claims of sea territory they'll run out of food and their economy will collapse.
They are the largest importer of food. China has a presence in every African nation that has farmable land. From Zimbabwe to Namibia to Nigeria.
>>30008276
America placed us on arms embargo during Marcos' era and only allowing us to buy shitty stuff like F-5As and F-8 Crusaders instead of 4th gen stuff like the first F-16s and F-15s
When Cory came there was a strong anti-military sentiment and Cory didn't want to arm the already flippant military so she did nothing and was forced to boot the Americans out by Senate vote
Ramos couldn't do anything because we were hit by the 1997 financial crisis and Estrada felt these effects and never finished his term though Ramos brought in those shitty GKN Simbas and those Italian flying coffins
Arroyo was the one who didn't buy anything save for shitty Polish Sokols despite being President for 8 years because like Duterte she favored warm relations with China and just brushed the Spratlys under the rug and just retired our remaining F-5As with practically nothing
Aquino was also friendly with China for even more obvious reasons initially but they took Scarborough Shoal in 2010 and he went on a mad military shopping spree that was badly needed but too late and too few. The military will obviously miss a true /k/ommando like him
Duterte called the FA-50s and AW-109s a waste of money
>>30005092
seconded
>>30007617
HERRO
DIS ISSA CHINEES NAVY
>>29999999
biggest get ive ever seen on 4chan
>>30007603
Mcdonalds in saigon, capitalism won
>>29999999
>>30007905
Yeah dude... Let's put nukes in everyones hands
>>30007876
Champagne*
fuck the UN we should ally with Russia and fuck China up
>Bosnia and Herzegovina voices support for China on South China Sea
BEIJING, May 20 (Xinhua) -- Bosnia and Herzegovina (BiH) on Friday voiced support for China on the South China Sea arbitration and reaffirmed its adherence to the one-China policy.
The remarks were made by Ognjen Tadic, rotating chairman of the House of Peoples of the BiH parliament, in meetings with China's top legislator Zhang Dejiang and top political advisor Yu Zhengsheng in Beijing.
In the meeting with Zhang, chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress (NPC), Tadic said BiH will abide by the one-China policy and hopes to strengthen parliamentary exchanges with China.
Zhang said the NPC, China's top legislative body, is willing to strengthen bilateral exchanges and sharing experience in legislature, supervision and national governance with the BiH parliament to provide better legal assurance for cooperation and people-to-people communication.
In the meeting with Yu, chairman of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC), Tadic said China is BiH's good friend and partner. BiH supports China's stance on the South China Sea arbitration, Tadic added.
Yu said the CPPCC is ready to strengthen exchanges and cooperation with the House of Peoples to serve the two countries' development.
Both Zhang and Yu called on BiH to strengthen cooperation with China on the Belt and Road initiative, especially in areas such as energy and infrastructure construction, and synergize the two countries' development strategies.
Tadic said BiH is willing to play an active role in advancing the Belt and Road initiative.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2016-05/20/c_135375925.htm
China's supporters in South China Sea
*China
*S.Korea
*N.Korea
*Brunei, Cambodia, Laos
*Afghanistan
*Mozambique, Burundi, Slovenia
*22 Arab Countries
*Togo
*Bosnia and Herzegovina
China says more than 40 countries support its stance on South China Sea dispute
China said on Friday more than 40 countries support its position on an international legal case brought by the Philippines over its claims in the South China Sea.
China refuses to recognize the Philippine case and says all disputes should be resolved through bilateral talks.
Beijing has stepped up its rhetoric ahead of an expected ruling by the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague on the Philippines case.
China claims almost all of the energy-rich South China Sea, through which more than $5 trillion of maritime trade passes each year. The Philippines, Brunei, Vietnam, Malaysia and Taiwan have overlapping claims.
"As far as I know, there are more than 40 countries that have made statements or made their positions known through all kinds of means," Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said at a regular briefing.
"More and more countries are expressing themselves and showing their support for China on the South China Sea issue."
She added that any unbiased country would support China.
Countries including Burundi, Slovenia, Niger and Mozambique had pledged their support for China, the Foreign Ministry said this week.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-southchinasea-china-idUSKCN0YB1EO
China's supporters in South China Sea
*China
*S.Korea
*N.Korea
*Brunei, Cambodia, Laos
*Afghanistan
*Mozambique, Burundi, Slovenia
*22 Arab Countries
*Togo
*Bosnia and Herzegovina
*Niger
35 nations are confirmed
>>30011143
>>30011143
Russia, ASEAN Support Accepting Code of Conduct in South China Sea
http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160520/1039972042/russia-asean-south-china.html
Russia and the ASEAN member states backed an idea to accept a code of conduct in the South China Sea.
SOCHI (Sputnik) — Russia and the member states of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) declared their support in accepting a strategy for conduct in the South China Sea, according to the ASEAN Summit declaration released on Friday.
"Support the full and effective implementation of the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (DOC) and early conclusion of an effective Code of Conduct in the South China Sea (COC) on the basis of consensus," the document reads.
>>30011438
>China says
>>30011374
>*S.Korea
>*N.Korea
PERFIDIOUS GOOKS
China, Thailand set to hold joint military exercises
China and Thailand will hold joint exercises beginning this month, China's Ministry of Defence said on Friday, in another sign of improving relations since the Thai military seized power in 2014.
Thailand's military has sought to counterbalance traditionally close ties with the United States by engaging more with China since the May 2014 coup that the United States and other Western countries objected to.
The May 19-June 10 exercises will involve land and sea operations, the ministry said, as well as training in humanitarian relief and maritime transport.
China has rattled nerves in Southeast Asia with its increasingly assertive action in the South China Sea, where it rejects rival claims over parts of the sea by Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia, Taiwan and Brunei.
Thailand does not have claims in those disputed waters.
Thailand's relations with the United States have cooled since the military overthrew an elected government two years ago.
The United States has downgraded its military exercises and training with Thailand saying the programs would be restored after a general election. The military government says an election will be held next year.
China is a major investor in Thailand and among the projects the two countries are involved in is a plan to build a rail link from southern China through Laos to Thailand.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-thailand-idUSKCN0Y417U
Thailand to Buy Battle Tanks from China
http://thediplomat.com/2016/05/thailand-to-buy-battle-tanks-from-china/
Thailand to procure MBT-3000 tanks from China
http://www.janes.com/article/60340/thailand-to-procure-mbt-3000-tanks-from-china
Independent: China set to ban all foreign media from publishing online
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-set-to-ban-all-foreign-media-from-publishing-online-a6883366.html
NYT: New Chinese Rules on Foreign Firms’ Online Content
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/20/business/media/new-chinese-rules-on-foreign-firms-online-content.html
Variety: China Unveils Tough Controls on Foreign Media Activities
http://variety.com/2016/biz/asia/china-controls-foreign-media-activities-1201711580/
Xi Jinping asks for 'absolute loyalty' from Chinese state media
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/19/xi-jinping-tours-chinas-top-state-media-outlets-to-boost-loyalty
I once had a dream where I was visiting an Air Force base. It was probably Guam. But stationed on the base were Army personnel too, including infantry.
In the middle of my tour, the Chinese decided to attack the base. Full blown aerial assault and all that shnaz. Well, the guides asked if any of us knew how to shoot to help defend the base. I said that I did and he handed me a rifle and an old metal helmet.
Well low and behold I wasn't given any ammo. I moved from fighting position to fighting position asking for ammo. Finally someone threw me a box of ammo. I ripped open the box to start loading a mag when I realized that he tossed me .22 mag. I scowled as he was hit by the Chinese weapons. Which happened to be squirt guns that killed people on contact.
Next thing I know, I'm being tackled by a Chinese soldier. In the scuffle and rolling around on the ground, their helmet and mask came off. Turned out to be a Girl. We made out, and then left the island and lived happily ever after.
Part of me wants them to try and take Guam now...
>>30011599
>>*S.Korea>*N.Korea PERFIDIOUS GOOKS
Singapore PM Notes Russia's Importance in Denuclearizing KoreanPeninsula http://sputniknews.com/asia/20160519/1039879126/russia-asean-singapore-korean-peninsula.html
Singapore Prime Minister told Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev that has noted Russia’s important role in the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.
Asean, Russia can do more to build on links, leaders say at summit to mark 20 years of ties
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/asean-russia-can-do-more-to-build-on-links-leaders-say-at-summit-to-mark-20-years-of-ties
PM affirms prioritisation of Russia in diplomatic policy
Viet Nam News
SOCHI – Việt Nam’s Party, state and government continue to regard Russia as a significant strategic priority in its diplomatic policy of multilateralisation and international integration, Prime Minister Nguyễn Xuân Phúc said yesterday.
http://vietnamnews.vn/politics-laws/297050/pm-affirms-prioritisation-of-russia-in-diplomatic-policy.html
ASEAN and Russia should have common vision for APAC region: PM Lee Speaking at the ASEAN-Russia Commemorative Summit in Sochi, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said ASEAN and Russia can deepen cooperation, strengthen their relationship and move towards a strategic partnership.
SOCHI: ASEAN and Russia should have a common vision for the Asia-Pacific region to be open, peaceful and stable, as well as economically integrated and prosperous, Singapore's Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said on Friday (May 20).
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/asean-and-russia-should/2803368.html
US 'rebalancing' is fishing in S. China Sea's troubled waters
Xu Bu For The Straits Times
http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/us-rebalancing-is-fishing-in-s-china-seas-troubled-waters
India deploys stealth warships to South China Sea to boost military ties
The Indian Navy (IN) deployed a flotilla of four warships to the South China Sea and the northwestern Pacific on 18 May for 10 weeks in a bid to boost military ties with countries in the region and enhance interoperability with their navies.
http://www.janes.com/article/60481/india-deploys-stealth-warships-to-south-china-sea-to-boost-military-ties
Indian Navy deployment in South China Sea irks Beijing
Beijing on Thursday conveyed its concerns over Indian Navy warships’ visit to South China Sea, prompting New Delhi to retort that such deployment was not unusual.
“When Indian ships participate in maritime exercises in the South China Sea, of course China will show concern,” a Chinese official was quoted telling journalists in New Delhi. He drew a parallel between India’s concerns over “trouble” in Indian Ocean with China’s concerns over Indian Navy ships’ visit to South China Sea.
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/547564/indian-navy-deployment-south-china.html
China calls for bilateral means to solve South China Sea disputes
BEIJING, May 20 (Xinhua) -- China on Friday called on the Philippines to settle disputes over the South China Sea through bilateral consultation and negotiation.
The Philippines has reportedly claimed arbitration was its last resort after all bilateral means had been exhausted. On the other hand, some people say China and the Philippines have never held negotiations over the Philippines' claims.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2016-05/20/c_135375918.htm
an Important article.
>>29999983
That's how superpowers act.
You think we follow international law? Haha fuck Saddam. Fuck Afghanistan. Fuck Yugoslavia.
China is a wannabe America.
>>30000128
Lmao no fish for you
>>30000810
Why does Britain think the waters around the Falkland Islands are their's?
Because it is their sovereign water.
Problem is, no one knows how to define sovereign water. UNCLOS comes close, but a lot of nations haven't signed it or enforced it.
So China claims a shitload of water near their islands, and then will "negotiate" it down to the UNCLOS 200 mile claim in like a decade.
>>30001899
>literally who countries
>Russia
>>30004185
>he thinks countries support "international law" when it doesn't suit them
>>30004260
>you can't
Says who?
The Flips, Malays, and Viets all made islands before China. It's the main reason this whole Chink building spree started.
>>30005271
>the Korean and Vietnam war were no threat to China
Uhh....
>I bet everybody chooses the Monroe doctrine
Uhh....
>declare off limits
They are asking why America is involved militarily in a far-away region without war. Yet the US government won't admit it is trying to fight China.
I don't see why the world community allows this to happen.
The USA, supported by the SE Asian nations and our allies should just roll up with our Navies and tell the Chinese they do not own that sea.
>>29999999
AWAKEN
Honestly, isn't this the equivalent of us building islands in the Gulf of Mexico? Why should we spend billions or probably trillions to stop China from building 6 rocks in their own backyard? I feel like this is a manufactured crisis so the mil-industrial complex has a new source of income, since Americans have been cucked into loving muslims now.
>>30008042
China never said that. They only get mad at Japan rearming, and for good reason.
>>30012701
>the filipinos
they didn't do shit
>>30012771
I know it's cliche, but it's hard to deny that your average American is so brainwashed that their view of foreign policy has little grounding in reality.
>>30012196
The Chinese dude has a point.
Indians flipped their shit when a Chinese vessel docked in Sri Lanka.
That's because Indians see Sri Lanka like Chinese see Taiwan.
>>30012750
Because the world community gives zero fucks about cat fights between coast guards over reefs
>>30012771
The US wants a weak China. Wouldn't you if you were a superpower?
>>30012784
Uhh yes they did.
>>30012825
Oh, I know why the government wants it, I'm just sick and tired of neocon foreign policy that's continued nonstop since Bush 41. When China is finally capable of patrolling the waters around Hawaii, wake me up.
>>30012771
>>30012794
Hello, Chang.
How is your stay in the US? Good?
>>30012849
Not being an edgy warmongering 15 year old who wouldn't do jack shit in an actual war means I'm a chink? Whatever you say, faggot.
>>30012865
Ching chong nip nong to you too.
>>30007859
Real hostilities with China would probably cause an immediate tanking of the stock market, but there's still manufacturing in the U.S. and if we had to, we could ramp our manufacturing capacity back up. It would mean an overall rise in the cost of consumer goods, but only as much as the market would bear. The main effect would a drastic reduction in profits for many corporations as they couldn't raise prices to much without alienating consumers.
>>30000538
You can thank Imperial Japan for how modern China turned out.
>>30012890
Good job proving you're a fucking retard incapable of any kind of semi-intelligent thought.
>>30012902
You can thank the KMT for being incompetent retards actually.
>>30012924
hokay Mr. Zhuong
So, let's think this through for a moment.
China will be fighting in or near their home turf, and thus have the homefront advantage over us. We can most definitely win a protracted war, but their overwhelming numbers mean that we're going to take casualty figures that may not be acceptable domestically.
If the (hopefully hypothetical) showdown happens between China and the US, we're going to need all the help we can get from the nearby allies. That means flaky assholes like India and Pakistan, pissed off Muslims in the Oceania, and maybe coercing Myanmar into letting us hastily build an airbase or two in their borders. Europe has virtually no significant armed forces to speak of if we don't count *our* troops already stationed there, so at best they can provide some sorties and quick materiel support (thanks NATO).
Iran is going to demand a ton of concessions in exchange for not providing support to China. Turkey is going to have a field day and cuck us to the Red Sea and back like they did with Germany. Sauds and Qatar will try to backstab us like they always do, unless we give them enough to do less of the backstabbin' than usual.
That leaves S.Korea and Japan as the only reliable allies, unless North Korea decides to join in and tie up our forces there.
I mean, fuck. This probably means that if China doesn't stop this shit, we're going to have to start playing nice with Muslims if only to keep South Asia and Middle East from bleeding us dry. This is a really shitty situation for us right now. I hope if (or when) the showdown takes place, we're ready for it. Otherwise we might suffer a Pyrrhic Victory at most from the exchange.
>>30012771
>>30012794
Man, these 50cent posters are getting more sophisticated.
>>30008420
that's fucking awesome
>>30013371
You can still detect them, but yeah, they are getting craftier.
Better grammar for sure.
>>30012771
>>30012794
it's time to watch your leader's movies again
要嫁就嫁習大大這様的人
https://youtu.be/wwNPj8u3XHg
習大大愛着彭麻麻
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz36EnT1jfg
習大大,街頭巷尾都在夸
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlvegtNcJ6c
>>29999999
i'm so grateful /k/ got this.
>>30013442
That asshole's been taking out full-page ads on major American newspapers recently, trying to shill for his stupid country and his policies.
Something *is* going to happen, and it's not the stupid "obongo will take away gunz" meme .
>>30013090
>thanks NATO
Is this just banter or are you actually annoyed at Europe for not having ground forces in Asia?
>>30013090
Our strategy for fighting china is called "AirSea Battle". We won't be invading the mainland, just taking islands and annihilating all Chinese air and naval forces. The goal won't be total take over like in Iraq or Afghanistan but to just grind them down with bombing runs until they surrender.
We don't need foreign help to achieve this but it is possible that France and the UK would provide limited support as they are the only other nations besides US that are blue water capable.
The only real difficulty we would face in a war against China is how we manage the potentially catastrophic economic fallout.
>>29999999
>9
>>30013516
A bit of both, I guess.
NATO is directly responsible for its signatories not having any significant garrison outside of its borders, except the US. In a conventional war against large adversaries with rough technological parity, we might run into a situation where we have materiel to spare but not enough trained personnel to use them effectively.
ALL OF THESE CIRCLEJERK
arm chair warriors actually think we will go to war with china when they have nukes
HAH
warfare will be economic only
>>30002930
oh man those chicks are gold...
That was worth every second of my time.
>>30012771
No, it's the equivalent of the US building an island in the Gulf of Mexico, telling every other country in the area that they can't enter clearly-defined international waters, and threatening a country half way across the world when they want to do freedom of navigation.
Letting China do whatever it wants in the SCS sends a clear message to Japan, Korea, and every other ally in the area that the US won't be there to back them up. Do you really think it's a good idea to drive our two biggest presences in East Asia out of our arms?
>>30011438
>South Korea
TRAITOR!
fuck china
>>30007609
>China
>"Ordering" America to do anything
Ohohoho.
>>30013933
What is their problem? China is South main trade partner, I know, but without US troops in Korea they are fucked.
>>30000992
Kek
>>30003349
>they're using fucking battlefield 4 footage of a tank shooting down american fighters with main cannon
oh I am laffin
How can these guys take themselves seriously? How can ANYONE take them seriously?
theres really three options here: 1 somebody backs down eventually...2 limited mostly naval war...3 full retard conventional war over ownership of the south china sea.
>>30012701
>The Flips, Malays, and Viets all made islands before China
Sticking a outpost on a rock outcrop and turning reefs into airstrips are not comperable in the slightest.
>>30007519
despite the part where china barely owns US debt right? or the part that countries go to war with other countries to get out of paying debts?
>>30007672
>It is ok to fire at you if we are just correcting our calculations to hit you
The fact that American planes are taking pictures for military purposes is enough to shoot the plane down. Be happy that China does not want to embarrass America and only escorts it away.
>>30003349
did they have a clip form transformers in there? like really this is like that one youtube channel that has a budget of a pirated editor but thinks they can remake black hawk down
>>30012834
>China builds a dozen islands around you
>You build one
Hurr You Are Not Allowed to Build Islands!!!
>>30013090
> China will be fighting in or near their home turf, and thus have the homefront advantage over us
Since when are the high seas China's home turf? Since when would China have homefront advantage over the US there?
The best way to defeat the Chinese army is to stay off the Chinese mainland. It's not like they can project force anywhere outside their borders.
can we stop being little bitches and just fucking declare ww3 already?
preferably after trump is sworn in.
>>30001070
wait...Afghanistan has a government?
>>30013533
>potentially catastrophic economic fallout
All of our economic "ties" to china could be done domestically no problem, it's only been greed to exploit cheap labor that there is even any Western business over there. So boo fuckin hoo, companies lose a bit of their +1000% profit margin, the biggest and most affected of them pay fucking negative taxes already anyways.
>>30003321
Ooh rah little debbie dog! Let's show these COMMUNISTS and Obummer what USAUSA can do!
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>>30012834
I see an enlargement of an existing island, not creating an island that never existed before like what China has been doing.
>>30012605
>You think we follow international law? Haha fuck Saddam. Fuck Afghanistan. Fuck Yugoslavia.
All of those had UN approval you moron.
Fucking chinks. I want their country to impose so bad.
I'm about to move to China this August. AMA
>>30000124
See we've already got an A2A kill with a recon plane.
>chinks btfo
>>30003349
Arma, battlefield, transformers, and the cherry on top, fucking SAN ANDREAS at 6:30 (CJ jumps out for some reason). If they really have to make videos then this just confirms that China's military power is indeed hypothetical.
>>30006967
meow
>>30011894
Was it an MSG dream from eating Chinese food? I get those and they're fucked up.
>>30013618
UK and France have decent sized bases outside of Europe. Hell even Britain has some bases in the far east including Singapore and Brunei.
>>30015940
HAHAHA itc no one knows shit about free flight rules, by this idiot's logic we should shoot down every bear that approaches, and we had much more of a reason to shoot down the Russian fighter that bussed a US destroyer.
>>29999999
Well shit
>>30015940
>China
>Embarass America
I'd like to see you try, chink. Fuck with the bull and prepare for the horns.
>>30013464
/k/ also got 30000000
>>29999999
>>30000000
/k/ confirmed as lucky fuckers nao
>>30018774
>/k/
>picture is Cirno
>>30012783
Yes it was just for sarcasm. On a related note, there were rumors that China did try to block FA-50 sales of SK to the PH.
>>30012605
>t. Chomsky weeb
>>30001469
>Proxy war with China fighting an America funded Vietnam, it would be epic.
That would be hilarious for a few minutes but Vietnam would be steamrolled.
Modern China has a 1st rate fighting force with cutting edge technology. Vietnam is using hand-me-down weapons given by other countries out of pity.
The Vietnamese have incredible will to defend their country but a new war with China would not go well. Their navy would be oil slicks and their bases would be demolished by air-strikes before they got anywhere near Chinese soil (except for that reef island but they'd never make it to boots on the sand).
The US broke the bank with the last decade or so of war, they can't afford to face a military that is on more or less equal terms. Fighting China would not be like fighting Afghanistan, it's a war that the US could actually lose.
The US hasn't fought a war that they could potentially lose since WWII and it's not going to happen over some water that has only secondary effects on US influence.
China knows all this which is why they're happy to play hard ball on the issue.
>>30001572
>Help! Come rescue us!
More like:
>Hey Putin, want to troll the USA some more? This is hilarious, the more the merrier.
>>30001899
>China buying the opinions of countries that literally have zero stake in the SCS
Fixed it for you.
>>30018703
Singbro here...just to clarify, the Britbongs have nothing but hotair and fuckall in Singapore these days. They pulled out in the 70s...only thing they still have stationed here is halfarsed local engrish.
>>30003281
>I guarantee you the day he gets elected he will change his tune and start doing whatever the state department tells him is the overall policy for the last several decades.
He doesn't give a shit about pissing off other countries, he says whatever he needs to say to get rednecks and morons to vote for him. Like every other politician.
You are literally retarded if you think any politician will keep their promises. Even the bad ones.
>>30011894
I envy you. Sounds grouse.
>>30018970
I'll give you 33% accuracy regarding Vietnam's capabilities...but you grossly overestimate China. You wanna talk about steamrolled? The US would push their shit in. Indeed, it wouldn't be Desert Storm 2.0, there would be significant casualties, but the absolute havoc the Yanks could unleash if pushed to it would be worthy of Khorne himself. China's smart game is to poke the bear, irritate even, but don't give that bear an excuse to go full-rabies.
>>30005477
>America is.
>America is...
>watching them take over the SCS
>>30006773
>so, If China gets land of vietnam and philippines...?
Then they'll be overextended and in trouble and the insurgent population will be US armed and funded.
But that will never happen, China will take the islands one at a time by colonising empty ones and blockading, starving out the garrison and then recolonising the occupied ones. They're not going to invade mainlands, they'll use economic means there by starting them of trade routes and fishing zones until they sign 'free trade' agreements.
>>30011438
>S.Korea
That's the one name there that matters. Brunei is an interesting inclusion but not that important because they probably don't really care.
S.Korea is breaking ranks with the USA though, they always tread a fine line between USA and China, maybe on this issue they decided to go with China just to out maneuver N.Korea a bit. The USA is probably understanding about their strategy there.
>>30012901
....and China would starve. We trade the food for burgerking toys. Ironic they will starve while looking at millions of little plastic hamburgers that suddenly make absolutely no sense to produce for a foreign country. Better learn to farm water so polluted it's pink, in mountains, all the while pollinating everything by hand like every citizen of China is already required to do. That's right. The whole country for three weeks pollinated trees with q tips because there aren't any pollinators left. Why do you think they are desperate for ocean and aggressive to fisherman? The Japanese pearl harbored us over a lack of oil. What will the paper tiger do when it is out of food?
>>30013090
>S.Korea and Japan as the only reliable allies, unless North Korea decides to join in and tie up our forces there
S.Korea isn't a reliable ally against China. They can't be because they need to be more friendly with China than N.Korea. So they'd sit out that fight.
China could squish them or support N.Korea to invade so they can't oppose China and they sure can't oppose the USA who have so many assets there.
They're stuck between bad choices so they'd just apologise to both sides and crawl under a blanket.
N.Korea would get hammered by USA so they'd provide only some sort of moral support. They can't send ships because they'd be sunk by USA subs they never saw. They can't send air because lol.
They can't send troops because there's no real land war here.
Expect a battalion of N.Korean air defence guards that probably defend a Chinese mess hall somewhere.
Japan might be involved though, they have the tech and the will and these days they've got a real thirst for action because they want to show that a) they've got their mojo back and b) they're cool with it on the international stage
>>30017359
You think we were waiting for it? Lol.
