Are we any closer to having a single uniform across all services /k/? Or are the Joint Chiefs somehow resisting this change?
>>29986004
>that ranger tab
TRIGGERED
It won't happen anytime soon at least, I can see the marines keeping their current camo for another 10 or so years at least, all other branches are sometimes allowed to use a multicam derivative when working with the army, that's about as close as we'll see for a while.
>>29986004
Muhreens resist the idea of looking like anything like the army since they are a bunch of special snowflakes.
>>29986004
The Air Force and Marines are living evidence that nothing will ever be unified. They are so unnecessary that they needed congress to make sure the Army didn't absorb them.
>>29986004
No and it isn't really necessary.
No, they all want to feel unique cause they're all special snowflakes
>>29986088
Service dress is one thing but besides that navy and af are pretty flexible depending on who they're working with. I believe corpsman wear marpat and af usually wears ocp oconus.
>>29986004
Everyone should wear multicam (scorpion) as default. Woodland Marpat for forest, AOR2 for jungles, desert marpat for deserts, ucp for the moon. Have them (combat gear only not garrison) stockpiled and special issued per deployment.
>>29986043
Word. Forma muhreen. Don't want to like those dweebs.
>>29986110
Wow, what a MASSIVE waste of money that would be. Tell me, why should every soldier have that many uniforms?
>>29986004
heeeeey that's my unit
>>29986581
Soldier here.
We shouldn't.
Honestly we need to adopt the Marine camo patterns and blouse style and go back to BDU-cut pants.
>velcro fucking sucks, for everything. Pockets, rank, insignia, everything.
>ACU material, despite being thinner and lighter than summer-weight BDU's, breathes worse and dries slower, plus rips much more easily
>winter-weight (the 100% cotton non-ripstop ones) were fucking horrible. Seriously, fucking all-cotton uniforms? In a uniform made SPECIFICALLY for cold/wet climates?
>BDU summer-weight patrol cap. Fuck the triple-thick ACU PC, fuck the Marines' weird-ass angle cap
>fuck UCP, fuck the AF's cloud-tiger, fuck AOR, fuck AOR2
>fuck non-rolled sleeves in the summer
1 style of uniform, 2 camo patterns.
By the time I got out I had:
>summer weight BDU
>winter weight BDU
>summer weight 3-color desert
>winter weight 3-color desert (whyyyy?)
>green 1 piece flight suit
>tan 1 piece flight suit
>ACU
>FRACU
>tan 2 piece flight suit
>UCP 2 piece flight suit
>OCP
>OCP 2 piece flight suit
>3 different colors of boots
And I couldn't mix any of them.
>>29986098
>corpsmen wear MARPAT
depends on the role they're serving. If they're stuck at a CASH or onnaship they wear AOR2. If they're innafield with a platoon they wear MARPAT. Pretty fucked up that they have to maintain like 4 different complete sets of uniform (including dress uniform).
>AF usually wears OCP oconus
Only their SOF guys even get it. Standard SP's and any other AF guy that's on the ground is wearing their cloud-tiger. Which, considering 99% of the time they're around soldiers, is kind of a "meh, close enough" deal since it's at least the same color palette to UCP.
Also, Seabees are still wearing 3-color desert BDU's, which makes them very...obvious. Especially when they're somewhere fucking tropical, like Panama.
Also also, my very last deployment our AF TACP (who was assigned at the fucking squadron level and literally never left a 300ft radius around our TOC) got issued fucking Kryptec gear. Only military personnel in the whole fucking area with it. And since TACP's wear sterile uniforms he was with us like 4 months before anyone other than the battle captain even knew he wasn't a contractor.
![tumblr_ly7oen6Gko1r04vbeo1_500[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1l394Wf.jpg "tumblr_ly7oen6Gko1r04vbeo1_500[1].jpg")
>>29986004
Why are they all so ill fitted ?
>>29986792
/fa/ go and stay go.
Marines won't adopt Multicam, but I can imagine everyone else easily making the switch, NSW is already phasing out AOR1/2 for equipment, it's only a matter of time
>>29988179
>old navy
>>29986756
Corpsman attached to Infantry only wear marine marpat. Even when they are at sick bay.
The only time you saw doc in a proper Navy uniform was when he put on his cracker jacks for the Marine Corps Ball.
>>29986681
>winter weight 3-color desert (whyyyy?)
Confirmed never been inna desert during winter
A few years back when I was still inna Muhreens we all really wished for some new camo pattern on our cammies. But yeah, I doubt those in power want the Marines looking anything like the Army. I wouldn't have minded though. Our 8 point covers are different and we roll sleeves, so we'd still be distinguishable.
>>29986004
I think this would probably the most universally praised uniform choice on /k/.
>Garrison
OD Green
>Woodland/Jungle
BDU
>Sandfuckistan
Multicam
>Former Soviet Union Gray States
ACU
>>29986004
Speaking strictly about a utility uniform, it's beyond idiotic why each service has it's own silly camo pattern and uniform. It's nothing but playing dress up. I can't fathom why we let it go on
>>29988395
What!!??!!
Name a Marine that didn't love his Marpat. I'm guessing you're a damn pog concerned about fashion, or a top class troll because you actually pissed me off.
I bet you don't even have salt stains on your faded deserts.
See /k/, this is why we can't have nice things. Teh Murheeens have to act like a bunch of snowflakes
If the Mongolian Air Force and Navy can have the same uniform, so can we.
>>29988403
>ACU
>>29988416
Calm down you fucking sperg.
I was a 52 in a Weapons Company.
We didn't hate our cammies, but a lot of us thought a new pattern other than digital would have been a nice change of pace. I have damn near white deserts with crotch holes, just like I assume you do.
>>29988436
Why won't we use reissue and remake M81 woodland with modern materials liks what the Green Berets wore during their deployments in Afghanistan
>https://youtu.be/JYQtV0zwvJQ
>>29988471
post pictures. I dont believe a 52 has salty cammies
>>29988513
Fuck you, 11 piece of shit. Stay mad that 52s and 31s do your same exact fucking job while also getting to shoot TOWs and M2s.
>>29988471
Just banting. Yeah my deserts are pretty salt dog status.
So salty after a 3 day convoy of eating nothing but MRE's I got kicked out of a chow hall at TQ because i got in line, and a fucking 2 Star was right in front of me. He told me and my buddy "our uniforms were unbecoming and as Marines we needed to dress accordingly". Told us to leave and basically unfuck ourselves.. it was 9:30 tho, no way we'd make it back in time so we waited lurking in the shadows for 2 Star dickbag to leave.
When we went back in all the chow hall ladies who saw that dick kick us out felt super bad for us and hooked us up with extra everything.
That's my blog post for the day.
>>29988534
uhhhh I was an 0311, 0352 and 0317. Please tell me which deployments you went on that you personally shot your missile system and fifty at the enemy, in which you personally patrolled on foot and cleared villages with soggy boots full of wadi poo water.
just give everyone multicam (i know it's not real multicam) and fucking be done with it.
>>29986756
Wrong. Air Force wears ocps during deployments even if you're a fobbit.
>>29988577
>uhhhh I was an 0311, 0352 and 0317
Wow. You're so cool! I was an 0311, 0331, 0352, 0341, 0317, and 0321 while patrolling your mom's pussy canals, faggot.
>>29986004
e-6's are garbage
>>29988694
Pretty much only in Afghanistan though with a few exceptions
>>29988577
>>29988723
>ITT:
>Dead-end faggots that had no direction in their life join the military then try to one up other dead-end faggots after they outlived their usefulness to the gov't
>>29988577
Not him, but I did deploy to Iraq during rainy season.
Shit sucks, but whatever.
>>29986004
why would we have single uniforms across the branches? even if it's just for utility, it would be insanely expensive and difficult to manufacture a BDU/cammies to suit the needs of Navy, Marines, Army and Air Force.
>perhaps you haven't heard of the F-35 joint strike fighter?
^this is exactly what happens when too much is demanded from a single item, the performance will be lackluster at best and will constantly have problems.
hell, even just look at the standard issue assault rifle used by the services. There are dozens of different variants and hundreds of different configurations.
platform specialization is where its at if you want the best tool possible for the job. Cost is pretty irrelevant when you're dealing with a $600 Billion annual operating budget plus god knows how much congress agrees to allocate for procurement (probably atleast another $200 billion)
>>29986792
Because med-reg is the only size.
>>29988905
It's a fucking set of clothes with a special pattern on it, not exactly rocket science.
>>29986043
>its all the muhreens fault
all the other branches are just as retarded for following the example and having their own special uniform. The Army and Air Force could have done something right and adopt the same uniform but no, they adopted the worst pattern ever made by mankind and then realized it was shit a decade later, replaced it with multicam, and then replaced multicam with something thats only slightly different. fokof m8.
>>29988980
>navy needs it to be fire retardant as well as covering up grease/paint stains
>marines needs it to make them invisible on the battlefield
>air force needs it to make them look really, really cool
>army needs it to be able to be mass produced in the millions of units
literally all of these things are difficult as hell on their own. Combining them is retarded.
I dont even know why I posted in this thread, i just came on /k/ to see zimmerman updates and got distracted by military wannabes that probably got denied so instead they buy tons of guns, military surplus and sit on /k/ acting autistic about matters they haven't got the faintest fuckin clue
>>29989307
Marine and army along with af and navy could easily be rolled together for their needs, I think marpat is actually a bit cheaper than acu/ucp to produce.
>>29986004
We were supposed to but the senate took off the "must be done by" date, so instead we have the situation where the military is required to have a unified service uniform implemented by a date that doesn't exist.
>>29986004
>Give the Air Force back to the Army
>Give Marines and Coast Guard to the Navy
>US Woodland for woodland/forest/jungle, Desert MARPAT for desert, Multicam for transitional and light vegetation environments, OD Green for garrison, including navy personnel on ships, Solid white overalls for snow
>>29989382
>Give the Air Force back to the Army
awwwww hell nawh
I love living comfy
>>29986060
having the Air Force not be under the Army was an excellent idea, and only a stupid grunt with no idea of the larger strategic picture or the value of air power would say otherwise.
>>29988723
you shitpost like a child
>>29988745
All of AFSOC can wear OCP's even if they are just finance troops.
Air Force should go to flight suits for everyone but we know the aircrew will flip their shit.
>>29990052
hmm I've seen plenty of ABU's at Cannon and Hurlburt field.
>>29988723
>Hey look FB I look like the guy from Cowa Dooty MW2!
>>29990074
I'm a maintainer but I use a black flight suit as regular coveralls because of the handy pockets
>>29990078
Yes I said can.
Not everyone is in a rush to spend the retarded amount of money on it.
>>29990074
as much as i think flight suits are gay I approve this idea if only just to make aircrew fags butthurt
>but muh special snow flake flight suits
>>29990091
Is there an AFI on stateside OCP wear? 36-2903 doesn't mention it and reporting instructions for deployment locations seem to be the only other thing that mentions OCP wear. Can AFSOC troops buy their own OCP and wear it if they are not issued? I'm at an AMC base so its rare I see it being worn outside of Army.
>>29990094
speaking as officer aircrew, 3/4 of the reason i don't want the rest of you faggots wearing the bags is that you'd figure out ways to gay it up. we'd be wearing the fucking McPeak flightsuit if it was up to Chiefs, and they'd be pressed and starched and i'd have to get new ones just as i've gotten them nice and comfy.
>>29990108
might be an AFSOC supplement. too lazy to check epubs to make a point.
>>29990108
Policy letters, not in an AF AFI.
Although I think Goldfien will probably do something new with the uniforms in attempt to stop the shitstorm that is USAF morale lately.
>>29990083
I was a gunner in the desert you fucking moron.
Of course I'm going to have glasses and a shemagh on my face.
>>29990133
>taking selfies the entire time I'm doing it
And I've been all over the desert, a shemagh is never necessary just adds a few points to the douche factor.
>>29990143
Not a selfie. One of the GIBs took the pic.
>>29990126
>speaking as officer aircrew
> i don't want the rest of you faggots wearing the bags is that you'd figure out ways to gay it up
I really want everyone to wear it now as a standard uniform and i hope the plane you are in crashes
>>29986681
What did you fly on?
>Picklesuit best suit
Just wish I was old enough to have used them.
>>29990132
yeah everybody's important and has a part to play, but goddamn it my day consists of practicing how to fly a fighter aka flinging myself toward the enemy at mach snot in a jet that i'm praying doesn't break because we can't afford upgrades to stay competitive against near-peers like China and Russia.
and i'm taking time out of a standard day to correct a pay issue when my schedule is to rally at 0900 for a 1300 flight that gets back at 1530 and debriefs until 1800... you fuckers at finance can send some people out on evening shifts or something so i can get paid my BAH.
>>29990156
sure as long as you remain at the position of attention while you're addressing me, warrior.
>>29990126
It's not like you fags ever gave a fuck about uniform regs anyways. I cannot count how many times I've jumped on a plane and everyone is just completely fucked up. Wearing half their flightsuit off them and a yankees baseball cap. One time we had a 130 land at BIAP and all of the aircrew cut the pant legs off, zipped down to their belly buttons. Mustaches and aviators. Looked like they were trying to imitate YMCA. Needless to say our MSgt lost his god damn mind on them.
>>29990167
>based dd214 soon
you can suck this cock that is at the position of attention
>>29990167
Are you really complaining about a 0900 to 1800 day when most of the Air Force is working 12's? You think you are the only one that has pay issues?
I also pray to God I don't die on my job. 3 people in my AFSC have been killed on the job in the past 2 years. Pilots are not the only ones with job hazards, long, shitty hours and pay issues. Except at the end of the day the Air Force only gives a fuck about the pilots.
>>29988239
Toys (1992)
>>29990169
>they all look like shit
>have gay porn staches and aviators
sounds like aircrew fags too me
>>29990199
he's a pilot of course he is going to bitch about how sweet his life is
>>29990108
Only SOF dudes and people doing deployment training are supposed to wear it CONUS.
My OCP 2 Piece Flight suits are comfy as fuck. The velcro pockets are bullshit though, atleast they are easy to cut out.
>>29990153
thank you for your service devil dog
>>29990169
i've yet to fly with sunglasses on, but i put on my aviators when we're in dearm all the time while i'm unstrapping from my harness and (sts) pulling out my G-suit. and zipping all the pockets, especially the leg ones, is annoying as shit.
i can't speak to the heavy drivers out there but the only non-AFI modification to my flight suits are cutting the knife pocket.
also get rekt, shitty staches and march go together like your mom and poor life choices.
>>29990199
>implying i'm not working 12+ hours
that's a short debrief. something that actually covers everything we did would last until 2030, plus about an hour or two of queep on either side of that.
flew nights on Monday, days today, nights again tomorrow.
>>29990239
Oorah warfighter.
>>29990094
The purpose of a flight suit is to be flame resistant. It isn't spacial snowflake for the sake of it.
Look at the army flight suits, they're 2 piece and camo to be more like everyone else. But we still can't wear them when we aren't working on/around aircraft. (IE staff duty/cq, and any other bullshit detail).
Shits gay.
>>29990243
>implying i'm not working 12+ hours
>that's a short debrief. something that actually covers everything we did would last until 2030, plus about an hour or two of queep on either side of that.
>flew nights on Monday, days today, nights again tomorrow.
that sounds like the usual schedule for any one working maintenance or security forces bitch nigga
>>29986756
>Seabees still wear tri color
Brb enlisting as a Seabee
>>29990309
you never seen how special snow flake Air crew or pilots in the USAF get with their fucking flight suits
Non stop bitching when they have to wear regular uniforms like the rest of Us
>>29990309
Why aren't flight suits standard issue for maintainers then?
>>29989466
i'm three episodes into inside combat rescue and literally the only rank i've heard some one called is the captain which is the CO of the unit i think. Not even do these fucking e4-e5's refer to the O2-O3 pilots as sir's, it's actually pretty frustrating the entire lack of military discipline and order that occurs in the air force. like they are all dressed as frat boys out of uniform when on duty.
I do admit i'm pretty jelly of all the cool new gear/tech they get but i just couldn't deal with how unmiltary like they are.
>>29990345
no idea
we got issued coveralls, not allowed to wear them outside the flight line or back shop though
>>29988403
>ACU
no
>>29990345
3/4 of the maintainers i walk up to daily have coveralls on.
>>29990347
spec ops is like that no matter where you're at
>>29990310
my job's a bit more difficult than standing at the gate and checking ID's with the barcode scanner.
respect to the maintainers though.
>>29990367
yea I got issued those blue coveralls without nomex but they are crap.
>>29990386
better than wearing my regular shit and getting that all fucked up familia
plus most of the time wore it have up and tied up felt nice with the cool breeze
>>29990415
ok, as long as your not one of those faggots that sew their rank on their coveralls.
>>29990435
>ok, as long as your not one of those faggots that sew their rank on their coveralls.
god no thats is some super gay shit
though it did make it easier to spot douche bags and faggots since those are the only ones that did that faggy shit
>>29989307
You wear coveralls on a ship dingus
>>29990383
not nomex flight suits though. don't know why aircrew would need fire resistant material over maintenance
>>29986004
2018 or 19 is when ar670 says ACU is no longer the uniform. til then it's whichever one you want.
do 2 minutes of googling
>>29986004
As a marine, fuck that shit. A marine is his uniform. It isn't to be shared with the lesser services.
>>29990480
>don't know why aircrew would need fire resistant material over maintenance
Im guessing since air crew is stuck in the plane, while us dudes in the ground can book it
>>29990494
I bet you're an air winger too
>>29990480
because popping the canopy while you've got smoke/fumes/fire in the cockpit is a good recipe for a flash injury. flight gloves are nomex and leather for a reason, and i wear cotton sand shirts when i fly.
>>29990534
what about heavy's? Pretty sure no one is popping the canopy on a C-5
>>29990494
>>lesser services
Aaaahahahahahahaha
>>29990564
then there's no way to get out of the jet other than fighting the loadmaster for a parachute and jumping. so fire in the jet is still a bad thing that you can't get away from quickly.
i imagine it's a big concern on a tanker too.
>>29986041
>>that ranger tab
>TRIGGERED
There's nothing wrong with how the tabs on there, when you open and close your uniform sleeve pocket it doesn't always get centered on real quick you can tell that happened here the velcro isn't lined up.
>>29990580
>>29990511
In any successful hierarchy, Alphas need to be clearly distinguished from the betas.
>>29990383
>spec ops is like that no matter where you're at
must be a habit picked up from exposure to marines, even force recon still exhibits military bearing when appropriate.
>>29990347
also, theres this one episode that rustles my jimmies how the enlisted act like spoiled brats, makes me want to drop kick their ass out of the helo
>call in to pick up afgahn soldier from afgah base
>no coalition forces on scene
>patient was struck by IED in the same field they want the bird to land
>pilots try to radio in to get them to sweep for IEDS since they always are in pairs
>no response
>last weeks intel said that 3 US soldiers were killed by afghan soldiers in green on blue cause taliban is hella infiltrated in the afgahn army
>still no response to radio inquires
>aircraft commanders command decision to land at nearby US held FOB until more intel is gathered
>it isn't
>said FOB sends out a squad to secure that LZ
>takes additional 2 hours
>finally pick up guy after 3+ hours of delay
>enlisted crew members chew out the pilots during the debrief
>what the fuck????
like i get that these enlisted dudes want to go out and safe the world but they really should follow and not disagree with an officers decision even if it is wrong, which it isn't in this case.
The risk of losing the whole bird, 2 pilots, and 3 crew to a taliban trap or careless disregard for high IED risk potential is sooo not worth a single soldier, even if it was an American.
The officer made the correct decision and piece of shit 22 year old mcfuck face is trying to make him second guess himself which can cause the officer to make a bad decision in the future where people will get killed.
>>29990618
>[vietnam medal] "I don't know what happened, When I left WE WERE WINNING"
are nam vets this fucking delusional? or just the marine ones?
>>29986681
I like the velcro, it's much easier than pins. It's annoying you can't mix velcro with sown on because the only part of the uniform I want sown on is the PC insignia instead of pinning it on and you're not suppose to mix velcro and non velcro.
The marine blouse doesn't even have sleeves on it, that's just not professional looking.
I like UCP.
>>29990621
>like i get that these enlisted dudes want to go out and safe the world but they really should follow and not disagree with an officers decision even if it is wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9uXLzZyucI
:^)
>>29990618
HERO
![marine-corps-combat-utility-uniform-002[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0JwWu3l.jpg "marine-corps-combat-utility-uniform-002[1].jpg")
>>29990696
>Marine blouse doesn't even have sleeves
>>29990696
???????
>The marine blouse doesn't even have sleeves on it
???????
>>29990636
We could've technically won if liberals hadn't stopped the "bullet for bullet" policy of supplying south vietnam
>>29990696
>yfw
petty rivalry wont allow it
muhreens need to look like special snowflakes because theyre brainwashed morons. they flipped their shit over the navy using a derivative for christ sake.
>>29990494
wank wank wank who cares. you aren't any cooler than any other branch, its just manufactured pride.
>>29990867
who the fuck is this stolen valor piece of shit?
>>29988507
Because it is absolutely subpar and performs like shit under IR and NIR, the only reason they wore it was to mix in with ANA on patrols
fuck off nostalgia retard
>>29990919
>manufactured pride
It's called history, and honor.
> There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion.
- Gen. William Thornson, U.S. Army
> Hell, these are Marines. Men like them held Guadalcanal and took Iwo Jima. Bagdad ain't shit.
- Marine Major General John F. Kelly
> The safest place in Korea was right behind a platoon of Marines. Lord, how they could fight!
- MGen. Frank E. Lowe, USA; Korea, 26 January 1952
> Why in hell can't the Army do it if the Marines can. They are the same kind of men; why can't they be like Marines.
- Gen. John J. "Black Jack" Pershing, USA; 12 February 1918
> Marines know how to use their bayonets. Army bayonets may as well be paper-weights.
- Navy Times; November 1994
> I have just returned from visiting the Marines at the front, and there is not a finer fighting organization in the world!
- General of the Armies Douglas MacArthur; Korea, 21 September 1950
> I am convinced that there is no smarter, handier, or more adaptable body of troops in the world.
- Prime Minister of Britain, Sir Winston Churchhill
I could fucking go on, but I think the message is clear: you POGs on here need to recognize The Marines as the one true pure military branch. America's own Spartans.
>>29990947
rah
>>29990947
t. Pvt Poolie
>>29990947
>>29989335
Good thing we're not producing UCP.
>>29986756
incorrect, AF in Afghan (and several other OCONUS deployments) wear OCP not matter wht job. My cousin who is AF supply just got back from Afghan and wore OCP.
UCP is the best thing to wear in the Army right now
ACUs fucking suck and feel weird plus OCP has that retarded ass zipper sleeve that everyone hates
>>29990947
is this nigger serious
>>29988799
Iraq rain is no joke, especially in the north.
>>29991256
Traditional ACU are UCP...
>>29990199
>JPEEEEEEEGGGGGGGGGG
>>29990947
top kek
>>29990724
stay butt blasted enlisted friendo
best uniform commin through
>>29990947
holy shit son wtf
>>29989307
You're retarded
>>29990947
> some fucking jarhead has a .txt file full of these on their HD
wew lad
>>29991631
Corporal Butt-Blaster reporting for duty.
>>29991604
Make sure you can navigate your way home first lt.
All this military branch rivalries is such bullshit, but I just treat it like street gangs. Also Airforce is the best since they in charge of the Stargate program and can meet aliens.
>>29992439
It's fun to pretend. That's what I tell my daughter.
>>29989940
t. Chair Force admin clerk
>>29992439
I wish this was real too T_T
>>29989265
They could not get multicam for the price they wanted so they made their own.
>>29986110
Our desert marpat is a canadian rejected variant.
>>29990618
looks like a phony to me
>>29989382
While I think fighter jets and bombers and even transports and logistics can be rolled into WW2 era Army Air Corps, Navy Air Corps and Marine Aircorps.
Missiles and communications sats should still be it's own branch.
Though I don't think it will cut down on the number of pussy chairforcemen who enlist and can say they are military veterans even if they did nothing AirForce related.
Don't USAF nuke guys wear the OCP? Like the missile field SF in Minot, etc?
>>29986004
No. There is no coming back from ACU.
>>29992439
>Also Airforce is the best
>>29990947
This has to be bait
>>29986004
those basecaps look silly
Why are you nearly Russia tier when it comes to uniforms? There are so many... Only good thing is that you don't mix then the same way Russians do.
>>29990330
The army does it too some times, RL1 patches are a thing.
Point is, flight suits are like pajamas and are super comfy. If I could never wear ACUs again, I'd be happy.
Also I can DX old flight suits and get new ones for free.
>>29990345
All maintainers (even back shops) are entitled to 1 set in the army. You just have to go to CIF and ask for it.
>>29990696
You can mix sewn and velcro on the PC, just not on your ACU top. You must be new.
>>29995835
Yes, Missile base SF and AFSOC seem to be the only stateside OCP wear at the moment
>>29996662
This. Had to have sewn on real for PC, uniform was still Velcro though.
>>29998683
You can have sewn name and pin rank on your pc.
>>29990856
PLEASE TELL ME MORE WARLORD
