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>never die.
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>never die
lol

P.S. FAL is shit g3 ftw
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>>29948502

Rhodesia: Historical and News Videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSM_02Uc6IUc1ad0MrcRaydJGsjZZf1CW
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>Rhodesians never die
>Zimbabwe is currently starving to death
>rhodie zombies coming soon
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>>29948502
Too late by about 40 years or so
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>>29948527
>HK shill

>doesn't know Rhodies used G3's too
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>>29948527
Mugabe pls
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>>29948710
FAL is still shit
>liking ass breaking recoil
>muh stamp steel
>ugly af stock
kill yourself.
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>>29948502
Italy is still around, anon.
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>>29948782
>b8ing this hard
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>>29948782
>thinking it has back breaking recoil

weak manlet detected
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>>29948502
What is dead may never die?
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>muh white supremacy meme country
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>>29951928
mugabe detected
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>>29951928
>muh b8

Current situation shows they were superior in every way.
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/pol/-tier apartheid state

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/2nmc4j/was_rhodesia_as_racist_as_south_africa/

they had fun times with FALs, and mugabe a shit, but you can't really blame native Africans for resisting a racist minority government (Ireland, anyone?). it's too bad Zimbabwe Rhodesia or another gentler transitional government didn't work out.
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>>29951160
I.. I don't get it
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>>29948502
I can't fuckin see this flag without remembering that story of /k/ vs ISIS.....
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>>29952138
Pretty much this

Rhodesia is a dead nation, and its dead for a reason, it was racist and it was a minority government, supporting it means either you're just a memer with no concept of history/just willfully ignorant to it or youre an actual skinhead from /pol/

get cucked
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>>29952155
such a shame for all those resources and that arable land to go to waste in the poor management of Africans.

Not to mention the Africans there now are literally starving living under their Socialist African leader.

No matter what you think of Rhodesia, it was certainly better than the Communist Socialist terrorists trying to steal it from them.

I feel a tinge of shame America did not aid the Rhodesians.
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>>29952166

Theres nothing wrong with socialism or communism, stop listening to the muh 32 gorillion propaganda rethuglicans shit out.
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>>29952166
>I feel a tinge of shame America did not aid the Rhodesians

Bit odd to back apartheid just after passing Brown v Board.
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>>29952170

Venezuela, North Korea, the Soviet Union, the former Yugoslavia, the DDR, the Baltic states, and Poland would all like a word with you.

Especially Poland. Try getting a Polish person to say one good thing about socialism.
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>>29952170
>Theres nothing wrong with socialism or communism,

Oh, so you're delusional or literally retarded.
I will just ignore you then.

>>29952172
It was a Soviet backed group of terrorists trying to conquer the current government to create a Soviet satellite state. To not resist that is moronic, though considering how it panned out I doubt there was ever anything useful to be gained by creating a black governed African Communist Socialist state.

For the people who lived there, every western effort should have been made to prevent the Communist forces from taking the nation.
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>>29952166
fucking idiot

Nobody said Zimbabwe's current state of affairs was good, or even better than Rhodesia in any way shape or form. Rhodesia may have had better living conditions (especially and particularly for whites) but at least the majority of the population doesnt have to live under literally racist laws from a ruling elite. Thats like saying the current state of jews running a good portion of the american congress is a good thing. Minority governments never work, and neither do communist socialists ones. Both are bad.

Id expect more logic even out of a cuck
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>>29952180

Nice argument retard, shows the mental capacity of you right wing dipshits.
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>>29952183
You are a fucking moron, and this guy is too: >>29952184


Essentially the options presented at the time, and this is relatively indisputable fact:
>rayciss white led government with decent living conditions
>communist socialist USSR backed state

The delusion of you fucking cockroaches is astounding.
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>>29952184
>complaining about right wing
>on /k/
>in a /pol/ topic

wew
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>>29952180

There are many dimension to every conflict. For the US, the domestic repercussions to taking Rhodesia's side in the Bush War would've been prohibitive. Also, apartheid's actually a shitty, unstable, racist system that prevents black progress.

Not saying communism or socialism's any better. They certainly went from bad to worse, but that's just how life is. The US could've ended up with another shitty monarchy after the Revolution, but we lucked out with G-dubs.
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>>29952190
>>29952192

Better dead than serving a fat capitalist pig, oink oink shit in my mouth more boss.
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>>29952194
>taking Rhodesia's side in the Bush War would've been prohibitive

Only to the public perception of a few hippies which could be fixed by rightly framing as it as what it was, a Soviet invasion.

Sure the Rhodesian government wasn't perfect, but making it a Soviet satellite state is worse.
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>>29952184
>>29952183
>>29952170

Hey, it's

>>29952138

here. Could you please uninstall 4chan? You're the worst kind of poster, and you're distracting folks from the grown-up conversation.
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>>29952201

>uninstall 4chan

Right winger education, top kek.
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>>29952190
>>rayciss white led government with decent living conditions
Decent only for whites living in the big cities, which were majority white

the rest of the nation was living in mud huts and you could only move up the social ladder into big cities if you had proper education

meaning education from the big cities

meaning that you were white

the only delusion here is that youre defending a meme country because /skinheads/ (or /pol/)and /k/ told you it was good based on nothing.

Read a book, hick
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>>29952196
I understand you are too delusional to have a working knowledge of efficiency and motivation, but to spew decades old discredited rhetoric like diarrhea is just plain out of fashion.
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>>29952206
Also has no working understanding of a joke, it seems.

I don't believe this person is a regular user of the board of chans number 4. Mayhaps the Russian nation's internet propaganda has hired a bunch of old people to attempt to shitpost?
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>>29952196
>complaining about capitalism
>while on a college campus/in your parents house
>on a computer paid for by your father's capitalist job
>invented by capitalist companies
>on a website financed by capitalist corporations

wew
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>>29952166

they're now printing fake US dollars in an attempt to stabilize the economy, lol

>>29952170

stop
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>>29952212

stay class cucked

>shit in my mouth more boss i gotta feed my family XD
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>>29952210
so they traded poor conditions for worse conditions? It was a soviet invasion, their opinion on the matter should not matter to the American government one damn bit.
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>>29952212
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>>29952219

All this slave butthurt top kkkek, mugabe did nothing wrong and saved rhodesia now fuck off.
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>>29952197

> making it a Soviet satellite state is worse

Not for the US :^)

Honestly, with Rhodesia's location and economic development status, we probably wouldn't have cared if they went Nazi.

> a few hippies

There were a lot of black people and anti-racist white folks in the US at that time.

At any rate, we were fighting another bush war for most of that period in Southeast Asia...

It's fun to play alternate history. Eventually, though, you gotta change some of the historical facts for a scenario like "US helps Rhodesia" to make sense.
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>>29952226

he's literally starving his population to death, Zimbabwe today is post-WW1 Germany tier where you need a wheelbarrow full of dollars to buy a loaf of bread due to inflation

would you rather deal with oppressive white minority rule, or starve to death?
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>>29952221
Except the reality is that under Socialism I would not be able to feed my family at all, because there is no system based on merit to gain more money.

There is a reason the USSR failed.

I would be happy to explain the beauty of Capitalism to you, but I fear you are too inbred or indoctrinated to actually consider the truth.

Though I do have one handy statistic available--one showing how global capitalism has lifted the entire planet out of extreme poverty.

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/global-povertys-defeat-capitalisms-triumph

I will die before I ever see Socialism turn my nation into poor starving and retarded peasants.
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>>29952224
>so they traded poor conditions for worse conditions?
This is Harare with a majority black people and government now.

Its not better than it was with rhodesia, but it isnt mud huts anymore.

fuck off.
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>>29952245
pic
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>>29952226
>>29952221
>>29952210
>>29952206

Hey, it's

>>29952201

again.

At the risk of feeding the troll and/or getting trolled, I'll point out that I'm a college-educated semiautomatic-owning liberal (by American standards) who still finds your shit-slinging are-you-false-flagging-my-argument posting obnoxious.

Please go back to your hugbox (but stay off my interesting subreddits).
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>>29952245
>wow we have a building and a half-assed airport!

see! the poor black people starving and murdering each other are far better off now!

retard
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>>29952255
I'm sure they're just eternally butthurt that capitalism actually does the things Socialist/Soviet propaganda claimed Socialism would. I mean, to fail so fucking hard on a global level is downright embarrassing and pathetic.
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>>29952255
???
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>>29952245

Dude, I was all ready to lay down some cold, hard Rhodesia facts on the usual /k/rowd. Maybe I'd have won some hearts and minds, gotten folks off the Rhodesia meme-train; maybe not. But here you are with the name-calling and identity politics, provoking violent reactions and hardening opposing viewpoints.

Exactly like Zimbabwe, another great chance has been wasted by nig'rish behavior.
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>>29952183
Holy shit dude you throw around "rayciss" like a fucking non-white. Do you know that word came from trotsky? Nobody likes black people.
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>>29952196
Capitalism isn't fucking right wing you dipstick
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>>29952272
This isn't Plebbit, you can say niggerish.
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>>29952272
>waaah you hurt my feelings and called me names i dont like your argument

So Im right but im not right simply because you got ass hurt?

and yet this is the exact same shit you complain about liberals doing?

Go suck a dick.
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>>29952183
The irony of it is, once non-whites came to power via mugabe, they immediately started acting insanely "racist" towards whites and started killing them more often and stealing their land
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>>29948502
>see rhodesia thread and expect mindless memeing
>rhodies get called the fuck out
>do nothing but bitch and moan with no legit arguments back

what a great way to start the morning.
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>>29952291
NiggerGabe actually kicked out every last white person in Zimbabwe not too long ago.

Nearly immediately afterward began begging for food aid because they kicked out the last of their white farmers and the niggers that replaced them don't have the skillset to farm the fields they stole.
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>>29952286

I don't think you comprehend the nature of this Gambian crop-dusting message board. I happen to 1) be a liberal dude who 2) agrees that Rhodesia was a pretty messed up country for black people. I have asserted also that you are a subhuman shitposter who dilutes the quality of this discussion, will never change a single other person's mind, and could be more effective as a human being by jacking off into a wastebasket.

In any case, you're a great example for why the reins of political power should never be handed to just anybody. Too bad nobody thought of that in 1979.
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>>29952314
>I have asserted also that you are a subhuman
stopped reading there

why should your opinion matter to me then?

Go play in traffic.
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>>29952281

For white man to use that word, is nigger behavior :^)
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>>29948527

>FAL
>Battle Riffle
>Decently sized for a gun
>Not too heavy

>G3
>Paddle Riffle
>Big enough to get you going 10 kn on flat water
>Heavy enough to use as an anchor.
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>>29952295
I think you're delusional, my friend.
There was nothing here but socialists BLOWN THE FUCK OUT, and some reminiscing of the impracticalities of the USA helping the Rhodesian government at the time.

Though it was generally agreed Rhodesia was better than a Soviet satellite state.
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>>29952323
Whatever nigger.
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>>29952322

When you roll into a thread and start shitposting, you will get shitposted back.

For anyone else who ends up reading this, here's a neat / unrelated photo of roof Korean in a Malcolm X shirt.
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>>29952138
>>29952155
>>29952183
>>29952184
>>29952210
>>29952272
>What is Zimbabwe-Rhodesia
You're all dumbasses. By the time Ian Smith transferred his power, the citizens of Rhodesia made both black and white, had casted their vote with Abel Muzorewa. Not to mention that their military was already integrated including serveral SOF (for example, the Zealous Scouts). The tribes already had automatic representation in congress before and during Ian's rule and their chiefs had automatic seats in parliament. Not to mention that they also had access
to UNsegregated cities and education, let alone, the fact that there were already having the African upperclass as doctors and lawyers before Rhodesia-Zimbabwe formed. Let alone that the Brits still prefer the commie Mugabe, who is to have his citizenship revole along with the fighting political terrorist organizations of ZANU and ANC. Rhodesia was already full on integrated in the end with reformations to be set in the future only for ZANU and the ANC to bitch to the Bongs and them terrorize the local populations to vote for them. You also seem to forget that ZANU and ANC were responsible for terrorizing civilians and preventing Blacks in the tural territories from getting an education (Think of the Taliban except its everyone instead of girls and with commies), whom have killed blacks and white noncombatants on purpose. The so called "white minority rule" moral high ground you have does not exist. Let alone, that Mugabe is an even larger racist, responsible for forcibly removing every single white off the country and commiting acts of genocide against his owner people specifically the Gukuharundi (Something that Ian or the Rhodesian governments will never do). Don't forget that Mugabe has also assualted political rivals from gainjng power and doesn't allow free speech resulting in death and being seen as an enemy of the state. 1/2

>>29952196
>>29952170
Commies detected
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>>29952382
2/2
The fact that you support Soviet backed communists who have destabilized the region, killed more of its own people, and let alone a hypocrite of racism shows your ignorance. Apartheid isn't something that lasts forever unlike a dictatorship that would result in an unstable shift of power; Zimbabwe Rhodesia, the US, and South Africa proved that due to having the same rights as others even do you have to overcome difficulty, can be gained support while stabilizing easily over time. I'd rather live in an apartheid society were I'm guranteed earning my rights back unlike a dictatorship where my rights are permanently taken and expressing them results in death along with massive disarmament of the people.
Welcome to /k/, now git out.

>>29952351
I don't see what you're trying to express here, he's clearly defending himself from Black racial violence, ignorance and law breaking.
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>>29952382
>>29952413
They were already blown the fuck out by the simple fact that the terrorists were backed by the USSR, but this is a good read.

Appreciated.
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>>29951928
Hyperinflation pls
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>>29952413
>defending himself from Black racial violence, ignorance and law breaking

Yes, that was the point. The other poster(s) in this thread who don't 100% love old Rhodesia seemed of a "black people can't be racist" type, so I thought it was appropriate. Also, dat shirt

For the record, I am

>>29952138
>>29952179
>>29952194
>>29952201
>>29952228
>>29952255
>>29952272
>>29952314
>>29952323
>>29952351

I guess I should use a tripcode or something before voicing more than one opinion. It got a little muddled in here.
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>>29952243
But private ownership of capital and denial of its use to others barring coerced unequal and exploitative "agreements" has literally nothing to do with merit. You have segments of the population spared from the need to self-justify to survive by mere virtue of what they can refuse to others
Though markets often work well, give or take.

>There is a reason the USSR failed.
Yeah, the whole centralized bureaucratic authoritarian state-capitalism thing Stalin used to break the revolution's back and create a permanent caste of ruling elites. I'm surprised that ponzi scheme of a nation-state lasted within firing distance of a century.
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>>29952196
>complaining about capitalism
>in fucking 2016
>after it's been proven the only working option over and over
wew have a (You) lad
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>>29952464
Heheh, a name would be alright, it sure did. Zimbabwe-Rhodesia would have worked out if the international community and the bongs weren't a bunch of mouth breathers. I put the fault on the Brits for failing to recognize a fairly elected transitioned government and for knighting and supporting a communist
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>>29952495
But how you can motivate workers in a socialist system without highly centralized state sponsored brutality?
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>>29952351
based chink
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>>29952507

Yeah. I'd love to know more about why the Brits supported (or at least stood aside for) ZANU. Maybe popular sentiment didn't make room for the alternative?

Interesting to note that around 1979 there were at least 2 different groups calling themselves ZANU, one of which actually participated in the democratically-elected government of Zimbabwe-Rhodesia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwe_African_National_Union
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>>29952138
>unironically linking Reddit

You should get permabanned for that you stupid worthless cunt.
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>>29952590

Did you know that reddit, like 4chan or 2channel, is a massive site with many distinct sub-communities? By way of analogy, a link to 4chan is not always a link to /b/ or /guro/ (if anyone remembers the o-/g/).
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Bumping /serious rhodesia discussion/ with tight cockpits and tighter shorts.
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>>29952464
>>29952495

Get a tripcode so I can block your worthless commie, reddit ass.
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>>29952581
Welp, at least one managed to show its peaceful than the other, either way, they're shit
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>>29952516
Pride, recognition/fame/renown, cultural factors that expect individuals to reach towards their potential, etc. Much all the same factors besides "I will starve otherwise" and related loss of personal property which motivate you. Though generally this assumes your society has a certain level of "whiteness" and/or cultural maturity.

The question is malformed in any case, as when you start brutalizing people and rejecting their rights to autonomy you are no longer a worthy socialist.

>>29952605
can confirm, r/darkenlightenment is pretty good. The site isn't entirely a lefty cuckbox

>>29952641
>blocking dissent instead of debating
OK Anita
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>>29952680
>pride
>recognition/fame

don't make me fucking laugh, no one is going to work harder for those things

I think the system fall apart too quickly without the brutality part. Now go to gulag.
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>>29952680
>r/darkenlightenment

>visit r/darkenlightenment

jesus christ how horrifying

at least they put a tsarist eagle up there to let us know
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>inb4 muh p-pol
Nice argument you cunts.

>>29952581
>Yeah. I'd love to know more about why the Brits supported (or at least stood aside for) ZANU. Maybe popular sentiment didn't make room for the alternative?

Protip: Rhodesia and South African were destroyed not because they were "racist" but the existence of those two countries threatened the power balance of the world at the time.

Remember kiddies, at the end South Africa had nuclear weapons, a large arms industry, and actual economic power. I am not saying South Africa would be on the same level as Russia or the USA but I am saying a strong South Africa would of made things interesting.

>>29952605
Do you know that /r/historians are filled with pretentious, political correct, and ivory tower dickheads who's opinions are worthless?

>is a massive site with many distinct sub-communities?

How about you stay there and fuck off from 4chan for ever? There is no redeeming section of reddit as the entire website is moderated by literal feminazis and other cancers of the world.

You posting something from reddit is the same as posting from something from Stormfront; politically biased, has an agenda, and the content is of dubious quality. The irony is that Stormfront is more ethnical then reddit because at least they are open with their aims and there is no illusion of what you are getting into.

Fuck off you stupid cunt.
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>>29952641

Those countries I shat on earlier had one thing in common, and it wasn't capitalism.

I am not the first of us two to trip up :*)
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>>29952721

People like you are why Orwell wanted people like me to have guns. I'll see you in Catalonia.
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>>29952680
>blocking dissent instead of debating
>s-stop c-calling me names ;_;

There is no debating with a fuckstick such as yourself as rational and logical thought is not found in your little brain of yours.

>can confirm, r/darkenlightenment is pretty good. The site isn't entirely a lefty cuckbox

Everyone knew you were a cuck and now you confirmed it. Good job you retard.
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>>29952738
>People like you are why Orwell wanted people like me to have guns.
>he disagrees with me!
>that must mean he wants to disarm me and takeaway my rights!
>he must be a fascist because he is calling me a stupid cunt like I am!
>MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

I fucking hate you millennial fucks. The only reason why you brought up Orwell is because you read it in Grade 12 language arts class a month ago.

>I'll see you in Catalonia.
Oh you mean where the anarchists did the exact same shit as the communists/socialists where they implemented red terror?

Go read a book nigger.
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>>29952749
>rational and logical thought is not found
yeah uhu >>29952495 isn't rational u gaiz
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if rhodesia was such a good country

how come they lost the war?
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>>29952814
if nazi germany was such a good country

how come they lost the war?

if the confederacy was such a good country

how come they lost the war?

if USSR was such a good country

how come they lost the war?

that a good fucking question. idiots with long but selective memories.
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