Hey /k/ we got in a argument over the legitimacy of duel welding in the old days.
As you can see there is solid proof that duel welding took place and even developed it's own martial arts. But the autists in /got/ disagree.
I was hoping you could educate them.
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>>29933142
>wanting a bunch autists who know nothing about weapons to raid a bunch of autists who know nothing about weapons
>and take time out of our own shitposting
>>29933142
It was more talked about and discussed an a dueling practice. It's not something you'd see on a battle field but more of a "You've insulted my honor, choose your weapon." type duel. The treatises speak normally about what to do if your faced with a fight were your opponent picks two side swords or rapiers as opposed to the traditional sword and buckler/gauche/cape/fucking anything else than another fucking sword.
Tl;dr: not really its own art, most of these images took up a few plates and a few pages of discriptions in a book that otherwise sumed up how to fight.
Kali, which originated from Indenesia, uses two swords, one long one short. Filipinos learned the art and used it but under Spanish rule it was illegal to carry weapons if your a slave so Filipinos made do with sticks. It is funny they try to make a sport but its useless.
>>29933150
He used a katana and a wakizashi. One long and one short weapon was common in europe as well, like rapier and dagger. Using two long weapons however did sometimes happen but only as a way to show off during performances for an audience basically. Not in real combat.
>>29933142
> duel wielding
> duel
Dual
>>29933142
Dual wielding swords is discussed by many italian authors of the 16th century and others, Marozzo, Manciolino, Agrippa (pic related), Di Grassi, all talks about it, however, it seems to be mainly a show of prowess than a practical regular fighting style.
Some contests were done in Italy, with two masters dual-wielding swords, but they weren't proper duels, more like exhibition matches that were agreed upon and advertised to show the valor and skill of both masters.
Apart from that, it's obvious that dual wielding shorter weapons or two weapons of different length is very common. It was done all around Europe for centuries, in Japan and south asia for centuries as well, in Africa, same thing...
It existed, it was done, but it was mainly anecdotical.
>>29933142
Based Piermarco Terminiello about this:
http://hroarr.com/florentines-doing-florentine-combat-with-two-swords-according-to-altoni-and-docciolini/
A sword isn't going to help you to block missiles very much so you'd want to carry a shield rather than another sword on a battlefield. On the other hand as civilian self-defense weapons two swords aren't very pragmatic to carry around all the time.
In duels two swords might have been overall equal to sword and dagger, sword and buckler, who knows maybe even sword and medium-sized shield. But most who engaged in duels proparly would have rather used what they had already learned for self-defense or battlefield rather than learn a specific dueling style that along with the advantages also had obvious disadvantages compared to other options.
>>29933142
Rapier and dagger was one of the most common forms of fighting in the renaissance.
>>29933425
This.
Rapier and dagger (or buckler) was one of the preferred methods of using the tool. though it's also not uncommon by any means to see it with just the sword.
