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>AR-15 Petiton 25.2k signatures Status: Complete, awaiting response from parlament
http://www.e111.ca
>Petition to add property rights to the charter. Cutoff May 13. 4.3k and counting.
https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-124
>Bill C-230 An Act to amend the Criminal Code (firearm — definition of variant) Status: Introduced
http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&billId=8111356
>Bill C-246 Modernizing Animal Protections Act(Hunting - More strict measures against hunters/trappers) Status: Introduced
http://www.parl.gc.ca/legisinfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&billId=8122718
>Bill S-223 An Act to amend the Firearms Act and the Criminal Code Status: Dead after 15 seatings unless someone re-sponsors it. (Seating 6of15 - May 12th)
http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&billId=8177186
>Quebec LGR petition has wrapped up with a reported 58k signatures (42k digital). Bill has been voted in by QC Legislature pending final wording.
muh cobwebs
>A2 upper + 20" gov't barrel for 350$
Jackpot.
>>29927095
If youre looking for ratnik gear drop and email I have a guy that can get it all, pic related
any trigger locks that aren't fucking huge and will actually fit in an average pistol case?
>>29928261
Cable through the magwell or the cheap Canada ammo ones are kinda slim.
>>29928261
zip ties?
or those shitty black ones that every store has.
>>29928261
The mastercock locks from Canadian Tire fit in the Plano case I got at walmart. Presses down the foam a bit,
Don't overthink this shit.
>>29927426
[email protected]. Please do not spam my burner account with millions of dick pics.
And how much would a getup just like that cost? It's the real deal?
>>29928423
For all we know, he could be talking about a pistol case with a moulded plastic interior. In which case, yes, finding a trigger lock can be a bitch.
Then again, if this is what pistolanon was talking about, he should've been a lot more specific.
![1610294_02_hk_usp_45_mark_v_7mm_rem_mag_s_640[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VnvBuLi.jpg "1610294_02_hk_usp_45_mark_v_7mm_rem_mag_s_640[1].jpg")
>>29928423
>>29928497
something like this, what ever comes with the USP 45 I just bought.
I have some of those masterlock ones and I'm almost certain they'll be too big.
>>29928528
You'll be fine m8
>>29928423
Speaking of cases, I bought an SVT from Marstar (bad choice), and Marstar, being the smug bastards they are, gave me a "free" plastic case to go with it, because they want to look like the nice guys.
Too bad the case fits like shit. I actually have to put the rifle in diagonally to make it work. And this is a case we're talking about, so even when you place a rifle diagonally, you still have very little wiggle room. The overall length of the rifle is almost exact, if not greater than the overall length of the case.
I remember another anon saying that he bought something from Marstar too, and that it looked like his rifle was forcefully stuffed into one of their awful cases, and by the time it arrived, the barrel poked through.
Man, I knew that Marstar didn't know how to make a website or run a business, but I didn't know that they couldn't even put rifles into a case that fits.
>>29928528
Step 1: measure the inside depth of your case
Step 2: measure the overall depth of a potential trigger lock
Step 3: if measurements from Step 2 are less than Step 1, it will work
>>29928424
Yea it's all real he might not be able to get all ratnik but can definitely get most, he also knows Natalia.
Does a safe have to bolted down?
>>29928764
No.
>>29928764
Not as far as the CC is concerned. CFO's may have a different take on it but as far as I know the answer is no.
With the exception of locked hard cases in Ontario the CFO wants them bolted to the wall/floor so they can be removed easily.
>>29928647
Natalia? Forgive me, I must be out of the loop.
How much would a getup like that cost? I assume you'd rather discuss payment and such via email.
>>29928840
Defense minister of Crimea
>>29928764
A friend of mine actually went over his storage configurations with the RCMP once. I have repeated this story countless times in previous Canada threads, so I'm sure there are people who are sick of reading it, but I think it's very relevant to your interests.
My friend actually had the RCMP show up at his door, asking about his guns. They asked him to show them how he stored his firearms.
He kept his guns in a $99 Stack-On cabinet in his closet. It wasn't a $3000 safe with thick, fireproof walls and 1" thick bolts to keep it shut. It was essentially a box made of sheet metal that closes itself with a wimpy 1/4" flatbar. It wasn't bolted down to the floor, because it makes no sense to do hundreds of dollars of damage for a $99 cabinet. Also, he was renting the place, so I highly doubt he would've even been allowed to.
So my friend showed the arsy empy his firearm storage setup, and they were content with it. They deemed it acceptable, and soon left him alone.
>>29927426
damn im also curious about price because i wouldn't mind grabbing some of that gear
Does anyone have advice on where to buy body armor in Canada? I know S&J Hardware sells some, but they only have level 4 in 8x10.
>Now that I'm able to apply for the CAF we've left Afghanistan and deployment anywhere else is highly unlikely
>We haven't operated a permanent base outside of Canada in forever
JUST
FUCK
MY
SHIT
UP
>>29929310
I have a relative who is an officer in the RCAF, and she's always bragging about how she's gonna get her "wings" even if she does nothing. I have only been paying a small fraction of attention towards the shit she's said, but she would essentially earn a pilot's salary even if she never flies.
Man, fuck the chair force.
>>29929310
Go Infantry and try for a posting up North, roll around innasnow with the Rangers. If nothing else, you'll learn some cool shit.
>>29929079
I use the same thing. It exists mainly to keep my guns organized and tidy.
>But what if somebody breaks in, Anon?!
I have little social life and I'm heavily armed in my house. If I go on a trip, the guns stay with family.
>>29929310
>>29929349
I just realized you meant Canadian Armed Forces, not the (Royal) Canadian Air Force.
Oops, all that ranting for nothing.
>>29929349
Not going RCAF, going for Armoured Soldier.
>>29929363
I'm from Victoria, so I guess anywhere is a huge change like being posted overseas.
what are some cool guns us canadians can have that USians can't?
>>29929386
cheap svt-40? i mean they can still get em but ours are cheaper
>>29929386
SVT-40
Most Norinco firearms
Another thing that we Canadians can have that American't is shipping to your door. Americans can't just ship firearms directly to the customer/end user, they have to ship them to an authorized Federal Firearms License holder, then the customer/end user picks it up from them.
I remember reading a thread on /adv/ about a guy who actually mailed his gun to a buyer through USPS, and it was basically him freaking out for the entire duration of the thread. Some people even told him to delete his thread before the feds got to him, but it was too late. I bet Bubba helped his pooper stretch to the diameter of a bicycle helmet by now.
>>29929441
i had a mosin shipped to my p.o. box it arrived yesterday and it was good
>>29929386
we can have sbr and sbs w/o any extra paperwork as long as it has a manual action
>>29929386
We can have the Lel-Kek Sub-2000 Gen 2 in RED.
>>29929464
what's a cool manual action sbr?
>>29928895
Ah, ok. Well, send me an email if you really are interested in selling me some gear. I'm legit interested, and will gladly pay.
>>29929617
mare's leg
http://www.cabelas.ca/product/46042/henry-mares-leg-lever-action-rifle
>>29927281
ok, can someone please explain this A2 thing to me
AR doesn't interest me as a platform, so when I keep hearing this A2 stuff, from what I get is something rare and expensive, I wonder what is so special about it?
>does it have major differences from M-forgery functionally/construction?
>does it have better accuracy or reliability?
>does it have some sort of historical significance? (not that it would make sense if you are putting a new one together, but idk)
>>29929617
Oberez.
>>29929588
I will never understand the appeal of those hideous guns.
>>29929386
Norc guns, cheap slavshit. I've been told that a $185 Tok like mine would go in the $1200 range down there. It only slightly soothes the anal pain of being a syrup gun owner.
>>29929672
I'm STILL trying to figure out this country's laws to see if a Canada-legal Obrez is possible, even if it means making it Restricted.
Because if it's legal, I would gladly fill out as much paperwork as needed to make it happen.
>>29929642
Some people like A2s, that's all there is to it. You want to really break your brain? Go to /arg/ and watch and people bicker over creating artistically precise versions of the "XM16E457MK.3-4.Z6 Jungle Carbine" or whatever in between all the shitposts.
>>29929672
And yes, I am aware that it's illegal to Oberez. Do it anyway, Oberez is love, Oberez is life.
>>29929642
Refers to early models of M16 basically M4gery for Vietnam/desert storm era rifles.
>>29927426
that looks cool as fuck, but unless it's at least e-bay, how are we supposed to buy it?
>also, how much would this entire getup cost?
>>29929699
Keep us posted. I'd keep one as a trunk gun.
>>29929725
>Crazy Trunk Gun
What're the chances that the AR-15 will be moved to non-restricted?
>>29929754
Very low.
>>29929699
Get a gunsmith like bits and pieces to do it but before you do call the cfo and tell them your making it restricted length and want to register and get an att to transport it, specificy the gun smith barrel length and over all length.
>>29929748
When I inevitably find a beater Mosin to Oberez, legal or not, that's getting etched on the side and posted here.
>>29929699
>>29929725
Obrez is possible, however you would need a custom made barrel as cutting the barrel would make it prohibited.
>>29929441
>Most Norinco firearms
All Norinco firearms. There was an import ban on all things Norinco. Unless you just mean *most* Norincos are cool.
>>29929766
>When I inevitably find a beater Mosin
So pretty much all of them?
>>29929773
I thought cutting is okay as long as a gunsmith does it? If not, I still wouldn't be opposed to a new barrel anyway, because I'm sure most nugget barrels are pitted/rusted/frosted to hell and back.
>>29929783
Sporting shotguns were given an exemption from the ban.
>>29929793
No. You or you gunsmith can cut to 18"(not 18.5") before its prohibited. Shorter than 18" have to be factory manufactured barrels.
>>29929766
Well, at least this time it would be a much lighter offense than what you normally do.
>>29929795
It says on Wikipedia that it all stopped after 2003, and until then shotguns where allowed. Either way we still get cheap non-corrosive chinaman ammo.
>>29929783
umm, cheap chinkshit
>daily reminder: badmouthing Norc funs is unpatriotic
>>29929894
Its sad most of my collection is nork but im praying real hard the import bans on baikal are revoked before the UN markings comes in.
>>29929937
what popular things does baikal make?
and why would the ban be revoked? is it just Ruski/Ukraine stuff so it's temporary?
>>29929958
Baikal makes Makarov's with Canada kosher extendo barrels.
Yeah the ban is only in place because of the Ukraine conflict.
>>29929894
Someone showed them zergface.
They thought it was legit
It is now nork military doctrine.
>>29929981
They are Chinese.
>>29929937
I'm going to try to avoid allowing my collection to become too full of Norc stuff, but certain guns are a healthy part of any syrup collection. Like the T97, M305, or Norc 1911. Now I need a P762 to go with my chinkshit bullpup.
>>29930066
Yeah im looking at a p762 or 1911 next but may go high end on that.
Already have a Grizzly mag, T97, Socom18, Outlaw and M16A1 style.
I would also jump on one of their 1897 repro's.
so what's the deal with knives now?
some weird import ban or something?
i've got a few folders from amazon.ca over the past few months w/o hassle
>>29930121
CBSA being dicks ignore them. Most likely they are not going to spend time on single orders.
Also amazon.ca is usually inside Canada.
Document about the CBSA seizing legal knives as automatics and getting away with it. http://www.citt.gc.ca/en/node/7447
>>29929642
This is an A2 variant of the M16/AR-15. Notice the 20" barrel, fixed carry handle, round handguard and fixed buttstock.
So first gun will be an AR which I'm currently building. Second gun will be a Garand. I've seen some 7.62 Garand on EE or should I stick to the original 30-06?
>>29928261
>>29928423
>>29928528
>>29928549
well boys, it's finally fucking here. I'm euphoric.
also, you were wrong. those fuck huge mastercock locks don't fit inside the case.
>>29933547
I tip to thee
>>29928558
i was that guy. and yeah, i had to drive home with it with the barrel sticking through the cardboard it was in. i had to tell the slightly panicked girl working the register of the post office that it was fishing equipment.
never again
>>29927095
>Quebec LGR petition has wrapped up with a reported 58k signatures (42k digital). Bill has been voted in by QC Legislature pending final wording.
as a queerbec gun owner how fucked am i. will i have to register it?
e-111 was presented? When will we get a video of it being dismissed to the sound of 25k silent screams and/or sighs?
>>29935190
But anon, think about it! If they make it NR again we don't have to shell out as many shekels on .223 rifles anymore.
>Inb4 it's part of the RCMP's scheme or something.
>>29934958
Not that much. It doesn't have criminal teeth. Just wait for the very last moment if you're afraid of trouble.
>>29933547
Fuckin way she goes. I can fit my Tok with extra mags in this bitch
>>29935362
>I'm holding these NR rifles for my cousin in another province
They can't do shit
Has anyone ever surrendered their guns before or knows the process involved?
Currently living in with family and a relative is mentally ill. I think they are seriously fucked in the head and I'm worried about their wellbeing. I don't think it's safe to have guns in the house anymore. I keep everything locked and under key and somewhat hidden, but i'm just wondering who I would call. I don't want my shit destroyed but... god damn , I don't know. Sorry if this isn't coherent. Lots going on right now.
>>29936103
>surrender
Why don't you sell them or leave them with a friend, you cuck?
>>29936152
Nobody I know local has a PAL
>Cuck
Fuck off.
>>29936103
You can ship them to me. What do you have anything special?
>>29934958
I think there is something like a max $2500 fine for non compliance.
>>29935190
It was at noon today wasn't able to watch the feed because of work but ill find a recording
>>29936152
Lookup gunsmiths in the area see if they'll sell on consignment or sell/trade em off online. Its wasteful to have them destroyed.
>>29935190
>E-111 Reclassification of AR-15 presentation to the senate. First video.
http://www.bobzimmer.ca/multimedia/video-gallery/
>>29936172
>doesn't want to be called a cuck
>wants to hand his guns over to the RCMP to be ruined
make up your mind
why don't you sell your guns instead of giving them to the government for free? hell, give them to me for free, at least I'll make sure they go to good use
>>29936847
Because as a matter of potential life or death situations, I don't particularly care about subsidizing your milsurp collection. It's an expedient situation, not something I have the luxury of checking prices and getting shipment labels to fucking vultures on 4chan. I'll call the office in Miramichi instead.
is there anything WRONG with keeping a firearm under the bed
>>29934911
Honestly, I would complain to Marstar about this. This was shoddy service, and quite possibly illegal, too.
They've failed to package your purchase properly. You put your hard-earned money into this purchase, and they couldn't even package it properly. Doesn't matter if the damage happened mid-transit, they've failed to account for that possibility.
Also, I'm very highly certain that firearms have to be securely and discreetly packaged, as a legal requirement. I'm not absolutely certain on this, but I am highly confident of it. I encourage more research on this topic (I plan on doing so myself after I finish this post), but I'm pretty sure a package containing firearms can't have the following:
>mention that it's a firearm in the description ("Content: Firearm(s)")
>have the contents visible in any way, shape or form
That post office girl was terrified for no reason, and it was Marstar's fault.
Hey BCfags,
Are there any gun clubs that are cheaper than Silvercore?
>>29934911
I remember picking up my marstar order. Old Filipino lady at shoppers casually noted the box was heavy and asked what it was. Told her "Guns" and she was pretty nonplussed about it.
Probably the least resistance I've gotten from anyone who found out I own firearms.
>>29937276
If you're not just trolling and in the the Vancouver area I'm offering to meet you somewhere and take any non-restricteds off your hands. If they are nothing I'm interested in I'll find them a good home for free, or if they are in unshootable condition I'll have them properly disposed.
Just hate seeing good guns needlessly destroyed .
Semi-auto PPSH-41 FRT ISSUED!!!
Restricted. Based on barrel length.
FRT #163407
>>29937325
No, just keep an open safe near by so if the RCMP tries to throw an improper storage charge at you they have absolutely no way to prove it in court
>>29936103
what do you have to surrender ,ship them to one of us.
>>29938116
Filipinos can be pretty pro-gun.
>>29938570
She even told me to "Have fun" while I was leaving. I bet she's someone's fantastic grandmother.
>>29937276
>>29938157
This OP
Post what province you're in, one if us will come get your guns. Well take good care if them
>>29937276
>life or death situation
what the fuck are you on about? you've mentioned no such thing
what's expedient about giving away something that's worth thousands of dollars and will only be worth more in the future? just put the guns up for consignment or throw them in self storage
>>29937325
i think if you have a trigger lock on it you don't need a safe
>>29937325
moisture, maybe
Hey guys, I have problem.
I got a Baur Arms 5/30 mag for my SKS. However I found that the Last bolt hold open function does not work with this mag. Is this normal? Are there other 20-30 round box mags that actually trigger the function?
>>29929349
"getting one's wings" just refers to doing a basic parachutist course. As long as she's not a fat tub of shit, I know a few females that have passed B Para
>>29929386
type 97, type 81 (soon), cheap SVT, Norinco LA K12 puma, m305, etc. Also grenade launchers, mortars, and anything .50BMG and up (yes, up) are considered Non restricted
>>29936172
I'll take em off your hands, pls don't surrender them. I'm Canadian too.
>>29939533
I'm convinced that I have no idea what I'm talking about (which is true), and my sister is just talking out her ass to make herself look better.
>tfw she actually talked shit about the Army & Navy
Everyone takes the piss out of the Navy, but really, shitting on the Army? She'd be eaten alive if were in the US.
>>29939606
I never understood the animosity. I've gotten along with people of many trades in our military and it's always one shit apple who makes the trade look bad. I've known some scummy clerks who suck shit at paperwork but I don't hate all clerks because of that. It's kind of low to talk shit about everyone else and stay convinced your trade is the best
>>29936103
Sell them or store them at a gunshop/storage locker/friends house or something. Dont fuckin surrender them.
>>29936103
No joke if you're in the Edmonton area I'll look into buying them off you or maybe even holding onto it until you get your shit sorted.
I don't want to hear about a guy getting rid of his guns because of someone else putting them in a situation.
>>29938383
YES
GIVE IT
>>29940261
I know right so torn between type81 money and this.
>know people who have been thinking of getting their PALs
>they've said something along the lines of "pffft, I'll just challenge the exam, it'll be easy"
>June 2015 passes
>ask them how their PAL application is going along
>"meh, I haven't even started yet. I'll just challenge the exam later"
>uh yeah, actually, about that....
>me on the right
>>29940462
fuck I know one person who did the fucking course then never bothered to file for the licence.
>>29940484
I know someone who took both the Non-Restricted and Restricted course, and only took the exam for Non-Restricted.
This was back when challenges were still allowed. How is this relevant? This guy had years of hunting experience, and probably would've aced the Non-Restricted no problem.
I just cringe at the thought of all that time and money he wasted.
>>29937325
>keeping a firearm under the bed
>Giving boogeyman your firearms when he comes for you
>Giving boogeyman a gun
>It's 2016
>>29940523
Who is a bigger threat, the boogeyman, or liberal socialist feminist vegan communists?
>>29936103
>I don't want my shit destroyed
You don't hand over guns to the police ever.
Seriously. What city are you in? There are many people on this board that will store then for you until they safe to be home again, or at least help you find a store that can sell them for you.
Another idea: go to a local gun store and ask them if they can store them, for a monthly fee. Explain the situation to them. They'll have room in their safes, and the last thing any gun owner or store in canada wants is one more bad event involving guns.
We are here to help. I'm also in Edmonton.
>>29929381
Armoured Crewmen here. Ask away bro
>>29940564
This. I'm also in Edmonton (how many Edmonton Anons are there, jesus), and would willingly store them for free, or buy them off you, your choice.
>>29940962
Im on base here
>>29940537
>he doesn't think the boogeyman is a real serious threat
>>29941043
Are you this guy?
>>29936103
I have access to CFB edmonton. I can meet in the parking lot across from the JR Ranks.
>>29941043
Stuck in the Qs, or the Shacks?
>>29941073
I'm in shacks right now.
>>29941064
No im not. I wouldn't surrender my funs.
>>29941151
I've got extra trigger locks. Or if you want I can store your bolts for you. Are mil? Either I'm willing to help a /k/ommando out.
Although it is Fucking 125 in morning. What are we all doing up so late?
anybody know how i can get my hands on a toz-123?? pls respond.
>>29941151
Also, you're not supposed to have funs in the shacks. You know, that rule that no one follows.
>>29941169
>>29941176
I'm not storing anything here. just lots of knives. Only mil can live in shacks so ya
and i'm up because there is rye to drink.
>>29941194
Well fgt, I don't care what you decide to do with the funs, as long as it doesn't involve handing them over to the RCMP, MP's, or EPS.
Jus curious, what do you have?
>>29941244
I say again, that wasn't me talking about the crazy senpai and shit. If i had funs here i could get the MPs of numerous buddies to store them for me.
>>29941249
Oh, I see now. When you said "No. I'm not." I thought you were saying you weren't going to meet me, but you were saying you're not that guy.
Well fug.
I blame crazy tok guy.
Would spending $350 on a nugget be too much?
I want to get a Polish m44 but they're hard to find.
Also, where can I find a Budapest m95 styer rifle?
>>29941762
>Would spending $350 on a nugget be too much?
M44 is $400 standard. If you want one, get one.
>>29936172
Cuck.
how long does the RCMP usually take to finish a transfer?
I want my p-09
>>29942299
No set time. I've had transfers that went through in one day, and had ones that took a week or more.
>>29942299
It varies. I had the transfer for my Skorpion done in two hours. But it can take days, or weeks even.
Got my AR Mag adapter for my Vz. 58 this week, and ran a couple hundred rounds with it. It ran pretty much flawless, but I noticed that initially I'd always have to slap my mags to get them to lock in, but it's mostly fine now. Does anybody know if that's just the adapter wearing in, or is it the mags themselves?
>>29941762
I honestly wouldn't buy from someone who describes any firearm as a "truck gun".
It's like buying a car or motorcycle from a seller who says it "goes very fast and you can race with it."
gona range tomorro. cant wait to shoot my m44.
better not fucking rain
>>29942299
As fast as both parties of the transaction are willing to cooperate. In most cases, the hangups are on the buyer's end.
The one thing the seller has to do is initiate the transfer.
The buyer has to submit his/her gun club membership (if it's his/her first time, or if his/her previous membership expired) to the CFO, which can take a week by mail, days by e-mail, or minutes in-person at the CFO's office. Then the buyer has to obtain an ATT from the CFO, which, again, could take another week by mail, days by e-mail, or minutes in-person.
>tfw I used to live ~15 minutes away from my CFO's office so I was able to complete the process a lot faster than most people
>tfw now I live >45 minutes away
>>29941762
i got mine at 400. but the seller sounds bubbaish
>>29942299
Just completed one in ON so far longest time its taken them. It was approved in 10 business days after I confirmed(2.5 weeks)
>>29945170
AR mags in general can be rather finicky.
It's almost ironic, because they're also known as STANAG (Standard Agreement) magazines. As in, the entire purpose of them was to be universal to any firearm that takes them.
But there are AR mags of many different shapes and sizes. Certain shapes just won't work as well on certain firearms. Just take a look at this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC03yl-iHlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjI_3MF_kQc
As for your vz? It could be going through the exact same thing. You might have better results with different-shaped magazines.
>>29941762
I've seen modified nuggets with aftermarket parts being sold for $700+, and they were 91/30s.
Basically what I'm trying to say is, at least you're not Anthony Burch.
Who else /tryingtogetagreencard/ here? Fuck Saskatchewan, fuck the cold, fuck natives, fuck Trudeau, fuck hippies who love Trudeau fuck pinned mags, and fuck restricted gun lists. I'm 18, what career paths have a good chance of getting me sponsored by my employer?
>>29929292
I bought my first from frontier firearms. Irish milsurp, was about 300$. Level 4 plates.
Next will be something from canadaarmour they have huge selection from concealable to riot gear.
>>29929386
Short barrel shotguns
>>29937325
Mosin under bed with bayonet and without bolt. Bolt and ammo in desk. Instant home defense spear and it complies with storage laws.
>>29943290
Mine usually take 3-6 weeks, but I have been arrested many times. I have about 25 restricteds
Looking at buying an SKS whats the difference between the Hardwood stock and the laminate one?
When I hear laminate I think laminate flooring which is poor people shit, so why is more money?
>>29947038
It's like wood chips suspended in some plastic shit. I think the laminate ones are newer and the newer ones tend to have chromed barrels though?
>>29947038
>>29947053
Laminate ones are all refurbished.
The hardwood ones typically will hold value better, but the laminate ones are probably going to be more functional.
Honestly, most of the rare/valuable ones have already been picked clean, so just go with whatever fits your budget.
>>29947038
Less cosmoline.
>>29940569
What's it like, I guess? I've drank the kool-aid from watching the recruiting videos, but I don't actually know what your day-to-day is like. I'd imagine it's mostly vehicle maintenance?
Well Thinking of buying a Marlin 336 as a first fun. Thoughts?
Other idea was building a .308 AR but that
>A) presents problems being a lefty.
>B) seems like a fuck of an investment for a hobby I haven't committed to.
Opinions?
>>29947548
Don't get a Marlin 336 unless you can prove that it was made before 1964. Post-'64 Marlins have quality issues.
>>29947681
I have a marlin 336 made in the 80's never cleaned it never had an issue. 500+ rounds through it. Good gun easy to shoot and aim. Kinda obsolete nowadays and rounds are over 1.$ each here now
>>29947548
Why would being a lefty be a problem for an AR?
Could've sworn the whole point of an AR was to be able to customize the fuck out of it.
>>29938383
Who's importing it, and when will it be available?
>>29947921
No word yet just got FRT late friday, NS was slated to import and TNW was going to make(This was back in 2013 tho). I would hope NS will have some info when they open on Monday
>>29947548
Regular AR's are fine for lefties only thing I would say is get an ambi safety. Which is a cheap part to buy.
>>29948618
There are tonnes of shops near me that use NS, so I'm pumped to hear it's through them.
Not sure where I'll see TI T81s show up. You can bet I'm going to buy both though.
>>29948701
I'm looking forward to the T81s too, I'm hoping for reasonable pricing after the first couple batches.
>>29951147
>first couple batches.
If Tactical Import's words are to be believed, the initial shipment is going to be the only one coming. Of course they could just be lying through their teeth in order to keep the cost up/ensure people panic-buy, but time will tell.
>>29951205
Yeah I don't believe that at all, the type 81's we are getting are new production firearms. Which means China has the tooling to keep making them if necessary. It would be a different situation if they were taking parts from a limited number of surplus rifles.
>>29951205
>New production rifles
>One batch
>Initial price of only $1000
I'd be very surprised. I think it's more of a test batch to gauge Canadian interest. If they don't sell then they won't bother making more, but if they sell quickly then they'll send more.
>>29952331
>>29953496
Hopefully you guys are right. As much as I'd love to own a Type 81, I'd prefer to wait until I hold one myself and see how they preform before jumping on the pre-order bandwagon.
>>29952331
>>29953496
>>29955014
They might have some of the other components (furniture, barrels, etc) in stock already (which would cut their costs).
But yeah. The Chinese are pretty good at making new shit for the Canadian market these days (I "blame" CanAm :D).
>>29955685
Yeah, Chink shit has become pretty popular here, I'm hoping they keep producing civie stuff for us. It would suck short term, but be a huge boon long term if the US opened up their markets. It would guarantee a constant stream of Chinese guns being produced for the foreseeable future.
I'm still on the fence about the Type 81 myself.
>only slightly less expensive than a vz. 58
>uncertain quality (probably will be fine, but at least with the vz, I already know what to expect)
Only real advantages I see are that the magazines are cheaper, and a folding stock is more commonly available.
Also, the US seems to have a hateboner for Chinese guns, so if I ever go through with my plans to move to Arizona, I probably wouldn't be allowed to take a Type 81 with me. Hell, I already feel saddened by the fact I will have to leave my SVT behind if I do move, and that's a Russian gun.
>>29955888
Apparently you can bring Chinese guns into the US but you'll have to have owned it for something like 10 years before importing. Not sure how the system work but ive heard it many times.
>>29955888
You can import them specific ways, but it's a lot of work and money. You should look into it.
>Or just smuggle them.
>>29955921
I paid something like $350 for my SVT, and Tactical Imports is currently selling the Type 81 for $1000. When you say "it's a lot of work and money," I assume it's gonna be way too much.
I don't know if I want to go through that much effort for $1350 in guns. I'd rather just give the SVT to one of my friends, and not buy the Type 81 in the first place. Hell, if I move to the US, I can probably get a real legal AK, instead of having to settle for an AK lookalike.
>this is probably how Americans justify Chinese firearms embargo
>>29955989
>>this is probably how Americans justify Chinese firearms embargo
Pretty much. I would suppose it would depend on emotional attachment. I know I would want to bring over my VZ58 since it was my first rifle and I'm rather attached but in the end it's up to you. Funny that they have such strict importation laws though.
>>29955888
>>29955989
I feel you, man. Plan on moving south in the future, too.
I'll probably just put the guns I most want to keep in my brother or father's locker.
>>29955989
thats how the NRA justifies it. imagine how fast the US firearms market would dilute and devalue if suddenly a new flood of a couple million norinco guns suddenly hit the market. with the production capacity they have, norc could probably collapse the market in 2 years.
we saw how fast the AR market plunged during all the panics, price shot up then immediately dropped due to the massive influx of guns and parts.
So what exactly do gun stores do with the name of your gun club? Do they even check? What if I haven't joined one and not in the process of joining one and I put a gun club name?
>>29959006
It's not the store, it's the RCMP that check. They want you to prove you are using your restricted for target shooting, and clearly if you joined a club then you couldn't possibly use the gun illegally.
>>29959006
It's not so much the gun store that cares, it's the RCMP-mandated Canadian Firearms Program that does.
If it seems like the store cares, they probably just want to help you save as much time as possible.
