several months ago
>be casually shopping for a particular model of gun
>find a nice one, but don't have the money for it atm
>sells for $450, another one sells for $500, another one sells for $480
>$450-500 seems to be their standard selling price
recently
>have $500 on hand, still shopping for the same model of gun
>seller has a few of them
>last week, half a dozen in excellent condition sold for $480-500
>find another nice one, place a bid
>get outbid
>somewhat pissed, keep placing bids out of sheer curiosity
>final bid is over $700
>gun isn't worth nearly that much, don't want to overpay anyway
>also don't want to set a precedent for these guns to make other auctions go that high
>lose auction, gun gets away
Why is it always some little shit with zero fucking feedback who bids the price up to the fucking Moon? So fucking pissed right now.
Can I get a general Gunbroker rage stories thread?
>Win Auction on Gunbroker
>Give him FFL information all that good shit for it to ship
>Gets to ffl
>"Sorry but we don't take transfers from a non-ffl"
>Spend a week trying to sort it out
>my FFL finally gives in and lets it through
Now I have to pay an extra $30 in shipping it seems if I get something on Gunbroker
>tired of the memories attached to my gun
>decide to use gun broker to auction it off
>take 7 hours to write out the perfect ad
>just waiting for it to go live
>finally the time comes
>"Sorry, but the item you have requested is no longer in the system."
>>29924604
Talking about Zim Zam's PF9? What the fuck happened to that?
>>29924453
>little shit with no feedback bidding up an auction
That was either someone the seller knows or the seller's own burner account driving up the price. Just like eBay.
>>29924628
I don't get that. Why does everyone do that on auction sites?
>>29924628
I've dealt with this seller before and I actually don't think that they do that. I don't want to say the exact seller or type of gun because last time I name-dropped on a forum, prices went up by about $100 on all their guns for like a month, but they have such a large amount of turnover, and it's so consistent to see nice-looking guns of this model going for $450-500 that I don't think they'd do that to this particular gun only.
>looking for a PS90
>all sites have them at $1299
>see gunbroker
>used ones going for $1300 with "upgrades"
>check new ones
>nice, buy it now prices reasonable $1100
>see ones on bids start $900
>decide to bid
>bid ends well over $1300
>mfw
Ended up buying one with free shipping, not bad.
>>29924453
>new seller with no ratings selling 1954 Tula SKS
>18 hrs left in the auction, no one had bid on it for 14 straights days
>place a $450 bid
>18 hrs later
>win the auction
Went better than expected.
>>29924453
Why the fuck don't you say what gun you were bidding on?
>>29924716
I might be bidding on other guns in their inventory in the coming days and don't want any of you faggots bidding against me, obviously.
>>29924666
Maybe you were just unlucky and a real customer was actually bidding against you. Using fake accounts to bid up a price against real customers is a tactic that some sellers use, though. If one of their fake accounts "wins" the auction they simply re-list it for the original price and try again.
>>29924751
If so, I will definitely keep an eye out for if it pops up again.
>>29924666
oh yeah. you bid on a USP from hkspecialist. i remember you.
>>29924828
Swing and a miss.
Speaking of gunbroker, does anybody have any tips for how to place bids there? The "15 minute rule" is faggotry at its finest, and I find that most people will just bid at the last minute anyway and prolong the ending time.
I see all these auctions ending at asking price with only one bid, but when I try to bid on something that seems to be priced about at what it should sell for, it always gets bid up and I lose the auction. This happens whether I place the first bid early on, or if I wait until the 16th to last minute to place the first bid. People will always swoop in and bid the auction up.
>>29924879
Some people set a maximum bid so until you bid higher than their maximum bid, it will auto out bid you.
>>29924879
I just set a price that I'd be willing to pay for the gun and stop bidding if it exceeds that. Also I only bid at the 15 min mark.
>>29924543
My last FFL said that. After they had transferred guns from non-FFLs for me several times before. Thankfully Gunbroker has a FFL listing.
>>29924921
Yo, still at $425.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=555935001
>>29924921
>>29924543
It's because too many faggot sellers on Gunbroker break the law when they are shipping their guns, and the FFL doesn't want to be either a) complicit in not reporting the crime, or b) the one who reports them, potentially ruining the person's life. When your livelihood depends on following a large number of illogical, obscure, and ever-increasing laws to the letter, the smart businessman learns to err on the side of caution.
>>29924453
>Why is it always some little shit with zero fucking feedback who bids the price up to the fucking Moon?
Because it's the seller, or a friend of his, running up the price. Don't you know how internet auctions work?
>>29924969
Still 2 days away man.
I don't wanna sound like an asshole, I do genuinely hope you get it for a good price. But odds are it's gonna shoot up in price.
>>29924981
It's happened before, though, and sometimes the faggot has some feedback.
>>29924453
Stop being poor.
>>29924996
Nah, you misunderstand, I'm not bidding. I'm pointing out that oddball c96s move for lower than $1500, and it's not even that rare.
>>29924666
Whatever you say Satan.
>>29924453
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-auction-gun-killed-trayvon-martin-article-1.2634153
I'll just leave this here.
>>29925058
Summary, don't give those faggots clicks
>>29925058
His auction has already been taken down.
>>29924652
They're hoping someone in OP's shoes would have jumped anyways and they make ~$200.
Good on you OP, unless you REALLY wanted that particular gun and/or that gun is going out of production or limited numbers, there's no reason to give those dickmunches such a profit.
>>29925079
It's been re-listed on another auction site.
>>29924979
This. Literally every time I have gotten a gun shipped to my FFL from an individual, there has been some manner of impropriety on the seller's part, even if the FFL I'm using didn't really mind.
Usually it's either,
>no driver's license copy included
or something like
>it's a handgun and they shipped it via UPS Ground; the carrier obviously was not notified
I've sold a few guns on Gunbroker, and there is really no incentive to ship guns yourself except to save a little bit of time on your part. There's one local guy near me with an FFL at his home that I sometimes use who will ship guns for $15 plus postage, and there's still another local guy who has an FFL at his home - the second guy will do FFL transfers in to you for $10, and FFL transfers out from you for $0 as long as you add the postage yourself (the second guy has a $25 "club fee," though). Meanwhile, if I go to UPS or FedEx and ship a handgun next day air (only legal way for an individual to ship handguns), it's going to be $60 minimum, and that's if I pack it up really small with almost no extra weight in the package.
>>29924652
Are you dumb? Thats what scammers do in auctions, they drive up the bid on their own shit. If they quit before its too late, they make a big ass profit. If they accidentally win their own auction they're out nothing but a bit of wasted time.
>>29925071
Fucking really? Just look at the url.
>>29925127
Which one? Did he say why it got taken down?
>>29925017
There's always gotta be this Alex C faggot weighing in.
Just kill yourself already. Everyone hates you.
>>29924628
>>29924652
>>29925094
OP again. It's a possibility, but I really just don't think that this seller does that kind of thing. Like I said, I've bought from this seller before, and there was nothing fishy before. Both other times the gun sold for only $20-50 over the starting bid amount.
>>29925134
I ship handguns through my FFL because it's cheaper, but I'll usually ship rifles myself.
Not only do I email a photocopy of my license, I print it out and package it with the firearm along with a copy of the FFL's FFL.
>>29925026
The only number that matters is what the auction closes at.
>>29925235
Yep. I saw your post so I figured I'd keep you updated like you asked.
oh boy a gunbroker rage thread, finally I can post this image
figure this belongs here
>>29925781
I fucking hate this sort of thing and wish these people would be banned.
Some fucker wanted 35 to ship the gun withen state lines. Fuck that. I just spent 500 bucks and you can't knock a few off shipping?
>>29925781
This is somewhat related to the story of how I got my Savage 1917.
>looking for cool, old .32's on Gunbroker
>Savage 1907/1915/1917 caught my eye in the past couple weeks
>find one with a $275 BIN price + $25 shipping - seems doable
>pics are just blurry enough to hide minor surface details - not terrible, but not pro quality
>description mentions a cracked and repaired grip panel, but it looks pretty good, so don't worry about that
>ask the seller specifically if the bluing was totally intact or if there was any surface rust, pitting or patina anywhere, whatsoever, on the gun
>"No"
>say, fuck it, and buy the gun
>$300 later, the right side of the slide has several areas of light pitting, and a pretty large area toward the front of the slide is covered in dark patina that wasn't visible in the photos
>pissed, but chalk it up to my ignorance and count it as overpaying for what's still a cool gun
>auction said gun was sold "as is," so don't attempt to return it
>5 weeks later, the seller sends me an email asking me why I haven't left him feedback
>explain why
>clearly say that I was planning on not leaving any feedback, but if he insisted on me leaving feedback "it won't be A+"
>he gets flustered, offers to either return/refund the gun, or issue a $100 partial refund
>kind of feel bad about it, but take the $100 partial refund
And that's how I got a $200 Savage 1917 (and how an underperforming seller got an A+ feedback rating from me).
>>29924979
This, also some sellers insist on charging tax no matter what state you are buying from and also insist on charging 3-5% extra for using a credit/debit card to pay even if both are illegal to do in their home state.
Don't even get me started on overcharging for shipping.
>>29926631
Love those old Savages
>>29924666
CDIsales?
>>29924686
I ended up getting one with the original preban grey trigger pack for 1000 in 2009.
>>29924979
Erring on the side of caution also exposes yourself to liability in other ways.
Especially with guns, the guys who are collecting sales tax and remitting it improperly or over-charging for shipping and handling are exposing themselves to more problems then they think they are fixing.
Stuff that makes me rage:
* Unrealistic starting bids
* Unrealistic Reserves
* Unrealistic "Buy it Now" prices
* No reserve/penny auctions that go for weeks
* Crappy photos
* Sellers who state "No C&Rs" even for C&R guns
* Sellers who won't accept electronic FFL copies
* 3 lines about the item, 300 about their pawnshop
* Sellers who insist on USPS money orders
* 3% markup for using credit cards
* Sellers who ship using Priority Mail boxes with little to no packing
* Sellers who ship loaded guns (true story)
>>29926685
No, but close.
>>29924614
It's being sold on a different site. I forget the name but Google knows.
>>29926782
>* Sellers who state "No C&Rs" even for C&R guns
This is because the process of verifying a normal FFL takes about 10 seconds online, but to verify a Type 03, you need to call the ATF on the phone and they are frequently busy, with 15-30 minute hold times. Ask me how I know.
>>29926806
How u know dis?
>>29926824
I dun it myself.
>>29926806
>he thinks gonna ask
>trying to buy milsurp
>gun starts out reasonable, place bid
>"reserve not met"
>wtf, what the hell is the reserve?
>every fucking time, 3x what the gun is worth
OR
>gun starts at reasonable price
>go to place bid
>ridiculously high bid increments, for example $140 increments on a gun worth ~$400 that started at $300
I don't know how anybody actually sells anything on that site.
>>29926842
>>ridiculously high bid increments, for example $140 increments on a gun worth ~$400 that started at $300
What? I've never heard of this and I have set up about a dozen auctions on the website for my own guns.
>>29926806
Blame C&R Holders. They used to be able to use EZ Check but then they bitched about "muh privacy"
>>29926838
Is the atf a cool place to call? Whats the hold music like? I have nothing to do with my afternoon i wonder if they would mind me calling them with some very imperative questions
>>29926867
It employs people like this, so....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2sWiZ8BizI
>>29926858
I've run into it on antiques and C&R stuff.
Most recently when trying to get an original, pre-1898 Lyman #2 receiver sight.
>opening bid of $180, which is pretty reasonable
>item is worth ~$350-400
>bid increment of $200
Fuck you. You literally have to *call* Gunbroker CS to get that shit changed that radically from default (which is, I think, $20).
>mfw i'm one of these low feedback buyers who buy guns at inflated prices
I'm just willing to pay a premium if I see something in very good condition and the seller's feedback is spotless.
I just don't want to get involved with a dispute if something goes wrong so I'm willing to pay more to minimize the risk.
>>29926867
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g4dkBF5anU
>>29926867
FFL retail jockey here.
ATF are assholes and will literally answer the phone with "Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, *munch munch crunch* Firearms, and *FRRRRT* Explosives, [obviously fake name] speaking, *humongous belch* what the fuck do you want? *click*"
Literally getting the illiterate negresses that work the NICS call center is more pleasant.
>>29926900
OP here. With the gun in question (if you were the person bidding against me) you could have literally waited 2 days for another auction to be posted for the same type of gun, in the same condition, and it would have sold for $200 less than what this moron bid it up to. The seller only posts like 5 auctions of a particular model of gun at one time, so idiot newbies think there is an artificial scarcity or the supply is about to run out...TODAY.
>>29924453
>be wanting to build a FAL for a long time now
>curiously search GB for FAL kits
>some guy listing Rhodie kits for 500 a pop starting bid
>"OH FUCK YES"
>bid
>no bids for 6 days
>last hour of auction
>some autist starts bidding and the price jacks up to 1k
>win anyways but now have 500 less to spend on a FAL receiver.
I got a Rhodie FAL finally, but if it weren't for some jackoff it would have been reasonably cheap.
>>29926956
Starting bid doesn't matter, though. What do these kits regularly sell for?
>>29926961
700-1500
>>29926900
I too am lazy and prefer to pay more for increased convenience.
>>29926703
I just traded a slr-107 for a ps90 with a auto sear trigger pack
>>29927424
>with a auto sear trigger pack
Neat!
>>29924453
FUCKING
GREY
BLANKET
>>29927460
It's ok mister ATF man, so long as I never mod the disconnector it'll only fire semiauto.
>>29927590
Thanks for volunteering the information, anyway!
>>29926804
It's apparently been kicked off again. Do they think selling a gun that's been used in self defense is illegal or some shit?
>>29927622
Controversy and public backlash and all that crap. BLM cucks getting their way again
>>29927660
Actually I just looked into it and the second site that hosted the auction, united gun group, didn't take it down...their site crashed. Apparently someone was feeling leegun today and needed to show the racist murderer what's what.
>>29927590
We all know you're going to mod it.
Ok. Maybe I'm not in the right thread for this. But I've got a glock 34 that I've had for about a year and a half now. I've only ever shot it once . I've got absolutely no experience selling guns.
What's the best way to sell it and how much should I expect to get for it
>>29924628
I had a NR bidder out bid and win the auction. I watched the end and tried to contact him.
he closed his account within 5 min. of winning the auction. never heard a word from him.
>>29925035
there's a lot of that tonight
>>29924879
What I do is wait until the last minute and bid up the lowest increment, I'll keep adding $5 every 14 minutes and extend the auction all night if I have to.
>>29925145
Gunbroker said they don't want the publicity
>reserve auctions
>>29927697
Only if the hughes amendment gets overturned.
>>29925885
gunbroker rarely bans. the only person I know they banned was a guy that called them a bunch of jews.
>>29927804
And that's been successful for you?
>>29926661
this.
>>29927832
Yeah the other guy eventually goes to bed and I win. I do it sometimes on things I don't even want. I have 2 burner accounts there that I use for shill bidding on my auctions and I will bid against myself sometimes just to extend it and ruin cheap auctions.
>>29927827
>do nothing about sellers who are regularly defrauding consumers
>vindictively ban someone who calls them mean names
This does not surprise me one bit.
>>29926937
that pretty much it.
>>29927679
racist murder. day/k/are?
>>29927854
Do you ever look at yourself and wonder if you're a good person?
>>29927892
Capitalism, friend. The last auction of mine, I shill bidded myself into $300 extra dollars. People get emotionally invested and will bid way too much.
>>29927812
but they left it up and closed the auction 1min before the start.
>>29927856
yeah, I've heard some horror story's and have met some real scumbags but for the most part its been a success.
Here are my auctions if anyone wants to take a look.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/BI.aspx?IncludeSellers=618902
>>29928014
Why are you posting this in the Gunbroker rage stories thread?
>>29928014
Fellow Blount Countian
>>29928014
You better not be a faggot and use an alt to jack the auctions up.
bought a c&r pistol from a GB seller (it was a pawn shop). a week later it arrives via USPS...
>>29927717
Armslist is more what you're looking for. As a comp sci major, the GUI on gun broker is complete garbage. Just use armslist, it's pretty good.
>>29930286
*downvote*
>>29930286
>armslist
>suggesting people use the craigslist of guns
>>29925141
>are you dumb?
Was this question even necessary? He's obviously a dullard.
>>29930395
Is gunbroker THAT much better? I mean, I want all the guns in my area local. I don't want a to bid on some gun half way across the US and have come in at shit quality. If armslist is the craiglist of guns, gun broker is the fucked eBay version.
>>29930486
The whole premise of recommending someone use Armslist over Gunbroker due to the GUI is laughable. The two websites are completely different. Armslist can only be local to how far you can drive. Gunbroker's marketplace is so much bigger. It's not even a comparison. For common guns where everyone agrees on the use value, Armslist is adequate. For many guns, though, the only way to find a person willing to pay what the gun is actually worth is to sell it on Gunbroker.
>>29926782
>3% markup for using credit/debit cards Ive never understood this. The damn jew is getting his money why would he demand more if he is getting it earlyer/quicker? seems ass backwards to me. and it only bugs me more that i have to pay more to ship the damn payment.
>no paypal
This one has always bothered me as to why? because it places hold on your money for a month before releasing it? or because the autist cant relabel a gun as a Military artifact as description for payment so the California based company cant do shit.
>>29927827
"rarely bans" phhht I was banned for over 5 months because an asshole seller wined about not getting his payment fast enough because my bank found his wire transfer to be shady and GB sided with him *this was all in the stretch of maybe 4-5 days*
>>29930395
In the one transaction I did with Armslist I had a pretty decent time, It was a pawnshop/FFL, contacted my FFL after I gave them the info, offered layaway, and accepted payment without issue.
>>29927804
i dont get why anybody would bid early on an item. its like they want to pay more money for it.
>>29925141
Lauritz, one of the biggest online auction houses in Denmark do this time and time again. even with the two same accounts. I even saw them do it on Egun.de
>>29924979
There is NO FEDERAL LAW regarding shipment of firearms other than that ammo must not be loaded. None.
Every rule out there is corporate policy of private businesses like UPS, Fedex and USPS. All of them.
As long as you are shipping TO an FFL in any state, no law has been broken. Some states also require the shipper to be an FFL.
>>29925781
I'm sorry but I don't quite follow whats with this image
>>29931142
You can't use Paypal to pay for guns because it's against their ToS. Credit cards charge the merchant about 3%, so when they take this out of the total, technically, they're only recouping fees that are charged to them.
>>29931336
>There is NO FEDERAL LAW regarding shipment of firearms other than that ammo must not be loaded. None.
You're wrong, buddy. I can quote federal law that...
>a) forbids the shipment of handguns through USPS, which is a government entity;
and
>b) requires that all carriers be notified that the shipment contains a firearm.
The second law effectively gives force of law to corporate policies. People like you are the kinds of people who ship guns improperly, causing FFLs to refuse shipments from individuals, thus ruining it for the rest of us!!
>>29931355
To start, that gun has more like 10% bluing. Claiming that the gun in that picture has "95% bluing" remaining it is an outright lie. Next, if you look at the search results, you can see that he obviously has his reserve set way too high, since the auction is ending with max bids as high as $600 without selling the gun. The blue book of guns values the gun in the picture at about $300 in Good condition. The gun in that picture is a wartime model that is perhaps in Fair condition, so it would only be worth $300 max to the right buyer. The seller likely seems to think it's worth $1000 or more.
>>29933465
It's usually in the CC's TOS that the merchant can't pass the 3% surcharge onto you, though.
>>29933581
>It's usually in the CC's TOS that the merchant can't pass the 3% surcharge onto you, though.
I think they get around that by stating that "all prices reflect a 3% cash discount."
Does anyone else hate fucking sellers setting reserves so they can list a gun at a low price? Just set the damn starting bid at what you'll take for it.
>>29933679
It would be one thing if sellers ever sold their guns for below their reserve - as a last-resort measure, like if they were desperate to sell. But they never do. Yes, it pisses ALL of us off.
>>29933679
>tfw just filter reserve auctions
Fuck it, I don't have time for that shit. Usually way over anything logical the seller thinks he can trick people into paying for.
>>29930286
Gunbroker is designed for old fuckers who are still using aol and still think the internet is in 1995. It doesn't take a compsci major (lmao not even a real programmer just some student doing bitch work) to know the site looks like ass.
>>29933753
Well, sometimes I can get a good deal on something that started as a penny auction but had a low enough reserve that I'd buy it.
>>29933867
Better than armslist making it look sleeker and getting rid of a decent chunk of usability. Look at this shit, you need to MANUALLY type in the fucking power search because they got rid of that link by the search bar. What the fuck, man.
>>29933611
Bingo.
>>29933893
Hey man, I'm fine with gunbroker's UI. I was just pointing out how retarded the guy who claims to be an expert on UI because he's a compsci major.
Everyone knows gunbroker looks shitty, but it does the job well.
Guys, a lot of people don't know about auction scams.
Please educate them about the auctioneers bidding on their own items.
Ignorance is neither a sin nor stupidity.
>>29924453
>decide I want a SVT-40
>find reasonable condition arsenal refurb listed sub $1000
>place bid on day auction ends
>no other bids
>hassle-free payment and shipping
>gorgeous rifle that shoots great
>Candabros mocking me the entire time
Haven't had any major issues on GB. Except reserve auctions. Fuck reserve auctions.
>>29933938
>>29933893
>>29933867
The UI isn't even the website's main problem.
The big thing that annoys me is that the auctions looks so fucking ugly. First, there is no way to post images large enough to even remotely show details in the finish or stock of a firearm. The exception is when the seller has a macro lens and knows how to use it with a tripod, but this happens almost none of the time, and even then, the images are resampled before uploading, which tends to kill detail. Next, you have all the text and garbage that Gunbroker adds to every auction by default. That needs to go at the bottom of the page, or they need to make it more clear that it's not something that the seller added themselves. Finally, you have the fact that sellers need to know how to use html code in order to format their item description. About half have no idea how to <p></p>, and it ends up as one big, gigantic paragraph, and the other half of sellers know TOO MUCH html for their own good, and will add in 5000 lines about their own pawn shop in big, colorful text with different color backgrounds and only write like 1 sentence of item description.
A lot of the rest of the site's drawbacks have to do with other companies' policies and aren't really GB's fault, but they could probably have a more modern way to sign up for the site, and they could definitely streamline the checkout process a little better.
>>29934276
Eh, most of what I'm buying on GB isn't exactly NIB though most sellers are cool just emailing you non fucked pics
>>29934303
>most sellers are cool just emailing you non fucked pics
Many times, that is the case. In my experience, though, a lot of the times I ask for better pics, they will either ignore the request, or it will just be another blurry cellphone picture, except this time they shoved the lens 2" away from the gun.
Kind of my fault but:
>be looking for a beretta 84. Type beretta 84 into search bar. Start looking
>wife bitching at me. Now I'm distracted
>see one in good shape, price $300. Wife still bitching, bid on gun. Go finish the dishes so she'll stop bitching
>later that night pull up my bids to see if anyone else has bid on it. Cool I'm winning. Wait... That gun looks... Odd
>pull up auction for closer look
>"beretta 92, 84% condition
>fuck, how do I cancel bid?
>GB: "only the seller can retract a bid. Buyer isfucked"
>ok. Send polite email to seller and apologize. Politely ask to cancel bid, explain that I suck dicks and apologize for incovienence.
>"after auction ends, you can send a 30% restocking fee and we will remove negative feedback from your account"
>but you're not restocking anything. It's not leaving the shelf"
>"you should have been more careful reading description"
>laughing Jew.jpeg
>set up two burner accounts. Bid gun up to $830
>never paid
Fuck you, Shylock.
>>29934368
Also won a k31 but after multiple calls and email, couldn't get ahold of seller to arrange payment. I think he died or something.
>>29934332
Can't really do anything if the original photos are trash. Besides, the ones that ignore the requests are uaually cunts anyway.
>>29933507
The USPS is no longer a government entity. I question the validity of the rest of your post. Care to post proof of your claims?
>>29934588
>The USPS is no longer a government entity.
*Citation needed. You are WAY off in left field.
>Care to post proof of your claims?
https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/unlicensed-persons
Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.
[18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A); 27 CFR 478.31]
A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm....and requires obtaining written acknowledgement of receipt.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a)(5), 922(e) and (f); 27 CFR 478.30 and 478.31]
>>29934628
>U.S.C.
>CFR
Nice try bub, but I'm a free confederant under the four articles of inhabitation
>>29931218
German bro here,
eGun.de is literally just as shit as gunbroker
>>29934802
AM. I. BEING. DETAINED.
>>29934184
>Candabros mocking me the entire time
They can suck my unpinned dick
Fucking wish we had knock off 7.62 Tok Sigs though.
>>29934184
I got my Finn Capture SVT with a matching bolt for sub 1000 on GunBroker. I was shocked.
