WWII-era AA
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How did shipboard anti-aircraft weapons move around to track airplanes? Were they motorized? Or just really well lubricated and balanced and man-powered?
I'm thinking about something like pic related. How would you move the thing to take out a 300 mph diving kamikaze plane?
>>29904895
Wait there were black sailors?
>>29904901
i dunno, probably not. it looks like these guys were testing it after installing it or something.
>>29904895
Smaller ones were man-operated, anything above 20mm was usually motorized/hand cranked.
>>29904901
Yes.
>>29904914
>i dunno, probably not
Are you fucking blind?
Can you not use Google?
Jesus the amount of fuck ups in this lack of intellect is amazing.
>>29904964
wtf man I thought black people couldn't swim.
>>29904971
plz no bully
the ships were segregated and all-black ships were an absolute rarity and likely didn't contribute much
therefore a reply of "i dunno, probably not" is okay
>>29904982
Well...they'd best hope they don't fall overboard.
>>29904988
>all-black ships were an absolute rarity
They didn't exist.
Jesus Fuck do you just make shit up as you go along and somehow trick yourself into thinking it's fact.
>>29904988
When you think "I don't know" that's the point where you shut the fuck up.
>>29905049
http://www.jodavidsmeyer.com/combat/bookstore/ussmason.html
you seem upset friend
>>29904988
>the ships were segregated
No they weren't.
>and all-black ships were an absolute rarity and likely didn't contribute much
This didn't exist, at all.
>therefore a reply of "i dunno, probably not" is okay
No, you're still being a fucking retard.
>>29905062
unless you don't completely know but have some background information and a degree of understanding that allows you to make an estimate or a reasonable, nuanced response
if you asked me when general grant died and i said, i don't know, probably the late 1800s, is that a horrible response?
>>29905081
Not an all black segregated ship. Try again or fuck off.
>>29905101
>but have some background information and a degree of understanding that allows you to make an estimate or a reasonable, nuanced response
Key point that you lack.
>Five steward's mates stand at their battle stations, as a gun crew aboard a Coast Guard-manned frigate in the southwest
>>29905116
you are a rude and more uninformed than i am
ships were segregated in world war 2 blacks were primarily cooks
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/02/19/us/black-crew-of-world-war-ii-navy-ship-recognized-for-heroism.html
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The Mason was the only vessel in the segregated, World War II Navy in which blacks were something other than cooks and waiters. The officers on the ship were white.
this is the NYT so blow it out your ass and kill yourself
my dad was on a destroyer escort in ww2. the only blacks on his ship were stewards.
>>29904901
Generally they were cooks or mechanics or non combat personnel.
There were exception. At Pearl Harbor a black cook manned an MG and shot down a couple fighters and I think shot a torpedo that was heading for the boat or something, anyways he got a medal for it and recognized and all that jazz. Ended up being killed 2 years later when a Jap sub torpedo'd the ship he was on. Blacks did exist in the US military in WW2, but almost exclusively as non combat personnel away from the front lines. Construction, logistical, and maintenance soldiers primarily.
>>29904901
Up until Woodrow Wilson, the USN was totally integrated. Then Wilson segregated them because reasons.
>>29904901
there were black sailors yeah..remember the pearl harbor movie? cuba gooding juniors character was based on a real guy..a cook that manned a aa gun. he ended up winning the metal of honor...he was declared MIA and subsequently KIA in 1943 during a naval battle..cant recall what one.
>>29906650
well shit...what he said.
>>29905183
>NYT
>Relevant, honest, journalism
You get to pick one.
Only one
Choose wisely, anon.
>>29904895
I used to have a copy of the Manual for that sight. It was a pretty cool piece of equipment that was supposed to help with leads and that sort of thing.
Smaller single Bofors mounts had a hand crank for elevation and one for rotation and a foot pedal trigger mechanism. They also through the magic of gears could spin really easily with minimal human effort.
thread is off to a good start, boys.
most of the time, for the bigger ones (read anything above a M2) had a gear system and crank wheels, and the gunner was kinda along for the ride.
but yeah, grease and keeping them balanced was retarded important
>>29907678
Before or after he played Birth of a Nation in the White House?
What a fucking turd.
>>29904895
Well i got to fuck around with a oerlikon 20mm on LST 325 once and you pretty much just swivel it around yourself. All the bigger stuff had cranks.
>>29907732
>not checking the date of the article
Step it up, senpai
>>29905087
You're wrong and your self righteous anger just makes it funnier
Being offended doesn't afford you magical expertise boy
>>29904901
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Chicago_disaster
Pretty big ordnance fuck up killed some 300 people mostly blacks
So they were definitely working dockside atleast
>>29904895
you crank that, soldier boy
>>29904895
Bofors 40mm mounts were electrically powered but could be adjusted by a crank in the event the power failed.
20mm AA mounts were turned by hand on a counterbalanced pedestal that would let you train a weapon easily.
.50 were generally on a pintile mount.
