http://firearms-united.com/2016/05/10/eugunban-finally-victory-libe/#more-561
LIBE is purely consultational in nature, but unless European parliament members decide to sperg, hopefully we're in the clear.
>I hope nobody posted this yes because I was looking for at least a semi relevant picture for twenty minutes.
Seriously? Nothing?
We're having a party over here
You guys fucking suck.
>EU
>gun rights
nobody cares anon
>>29901910
>yuros
>guns
>>29901910
>>29902516
do you even time zone? all the people that care are working.
Congrats Euros, I'm happy for you.
White Pride! World Wide!
>>29902611
Thanks pal!
>>29901910
I'll remain skeptical until Malmström and the others are lying six feet under.
Best of luck from freedom land. Things could get better yet
>>29901910
How come she isn't brown and wearing a muslim hoodie?
>>29903153
>what is eastern europe
and this is coming from a burger
>>29901910
Cool. Good job euros.
American here, What is it? Not reading the link.
>Inplying links
>Giving myself viruses
>Legendary fef
>>29901910
This is good, hopefully people are starting to realize guns aren't the devil and that legal gun ownership shouldn't be punished
>>29903507
>haha /k/ i'm a really dumb American haha, please read the OP's link to me
>god bless burgerstan!
Terrible attempt
>>29901910
Cool. Too bad I'm leaving yuropean yunion in 4month
>>29901910
>>29903551
Yeah, hopefully. Then again it's europe.
It's not like czechs weren't ready to do a mass civil disobedience, anyway. Firearms are a part of our culture, our freedom that German and Russian opressive regimes did not allow us, and we are not to be disarmed again. There would be bodies on both cops and civilian sides.
Congrats EuroAnons.
Don't be lulled into a flase sense of security. This is not over.
The EU has an agenda, one of the things on that agenda is the, eventual, complete disarmament of civilians. They might have been stopped now, but in 5 or 10 years they will try again. They will keep trying until they win, and they will win because they will make the EU more and more dictatorial and authoritarian than it already is. They will make it larger and more powerful and they will stick their fingers in all the pies, they're going to a federal Europe.
Democracy and liberty are not in their nature.
>>29903781
We're not giving up, I can promise you that.
>>29903779
Thanks mate.
>>29901910
>be euro
>this
Now I can start my journey to becoming an has-guns and get some sweet semi autos later on.
>>29903723
Czechoslovakia and Switzerland are the last holdouts for freedom out across the pond.
>The proposal to ban “Category B7” modern sporting firearms (a.k.a. “military-style” guns) was rejected.
>The proposal to severely restrict or even impose licensing and registrations fordeactivated and replica firearms was rejected.
>Collectors are kept out of the scope of the directive.
>The proposal to restrict detachable magazines in capacity, to include them into the list of “essential firearm components” and impose mandatory registration EU-wide was rejected; same goes for silencers and sound suppressors.
>The socialists’ proposal to impose an an additional tax on firearms and ammunitions has been rejected.
>While essential gun parts should be marked, the proposal to impose marking of ammunition was rejected.
>Member States will still be allowed to sell ex-military surplus to civilians and to grant, although under certain conditions, licenses for “Category A” military firearms and light weapons.
>The proposal to impose EU-common mandatory medical standards and tests for the release and the renewal of gun licenses, and the proposal to impose an EU-level standard expiry date for all gun licenses, were both rejected.
>People under the age of 18 will still be allowed to own and operate firearms for hunting and sport shooting, albeit under the supervision of an adult guardian that should also be a licensed gun owner.
>While LIBE asks that the European Directive should refer to “mandatory safe storage” for privately-owned firearms, conditions and standards for said “safe storage” should be left to each individual Member State to establish on its own soil.
>EU Member States should established a common database of licensed gun owners. As “Big Brother-ish” as it may sound, this could open the way for a future gun license reciprocity in the EU.
Neat.
>>29904141
Dear god that is quite the defence Eurobros.
Now, y'all need to go on the offensive and throw some loopholes in these European directives....maybe some that override some national gun control.
That'll be hilariously ironic when the pro-EU Brit block for instance accidently fucks over their own gun laws and can't put up too much of a fight after literally advocating for the European unification of authority.
>>29904141
>>modern sporting firearms
>>a.k.a military style rifles
Why am I living in this shithole?
>>29904083
You're aware that Czechoslovakia hasn't been a thing for over 25 years now, right?
That being said you're correct, but EU wants to force their "laws" upon us
This is awesome news. I worry for you EuroBros.
>>29905898
this, as much as we bicker about you/you about us it's important to our eurobros stay strong
You yuuros have a hell of a conundrum with that Union thing. On one hand, the more power devolved to EU institutions, the more likely you are to suffer some lol-no-guns diktat just because some other country's bureaucrat found it fashionable.
On the other hand, those bureaucrats are the only thing even slightly retarding Bongistan's plunge into Full Orwell, and every once in a while they come up with some good ideas, like maybe all y'all shouldn't ban guns.
That, and most European countries have the GDP of a farmer's market. Hard to imagine what you guys would do without some kind of bureaucracy organizing the trade and currency unions.
>>29904508
Be more specific.
>>29901910
Good for you. Not sure any of us Americans care but good for you anyways!
>>29906439
4Chan is unamerican by majority, darling.
>>29901910
so, basically, a bunch of strict gun control laws were proposed but got rejected. Am I reading that correctly? Any current laws getting going away?
I hope things keep improving. it will take some of the ammo away from gun control advocates here if they saw gun control laws go away and crime rates stay the same.
>>29906533
>4Chan is unamerican by majority
>>29901910
>more evil anti-human legislation wasn't passed
>victory
You also didn't get struck by a car and die today. A small victory?
>>29901910
Jesus... I just read through that list. I mean, I'm glad all those proposals were rejected but I shudder to think what could have happened. Fucking mandatory registration for detachable magazines...magazines! A small piece of sheet metal would have to be serialized and tracked. I can't even imagine what diseased mind thought that up or figured ot would be enforcable.
>>29906557
>it will take some of the ammo away from gun control advocates here if they saw gun control laws go away and crime rates stay the same
The mass immigration from Syria is like Europe decided to invent niggers of their very own. Crime is going to skyrocket, if it hasn't already, and the kind of multikulti that gets rustled by someone saying "nigger" on a tunisian turnpike travelogue would blame it on the firearms liberalization instead of all the poverty and "illiberal values" they imported.
>>29906664
>more evil anti-human legislation wasn't passed
Not true! They're getting a gun registry.
>>29906728
you know it's bad when thats considered a small victory
emasculation complete
>>29906714
so maybe crime rates go up for a while, then euros get some guns, and rates go down.
>just call me pollyanna.
>>29906804
That'd be for the best. I'm skeptical, but still crossing my fingers for the yuuros.
>>29906860
You are dreaming guys. Ultra restrictive gun laws that makes angry some countries being rejected doesn't mean we'll have gun at the national level. It just means we have to wait a bit more until they try, and probably succeed, into cucking us.
>>29906533
Uh, over half the posters on 4chan are American
>>29907082
>>29906623
https://www.similarweb.com/website/4chan.org#overview
>37.66%
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/4chan.org
>37.9%
>>29904184
>the pro-EU Brit block
Pro-EU Brits are 99.9% likely to hate guns, you'd find much more pro-gun people amongst those opposed to EU membership.
Most countries in Europe have better laws than we do, but there's almost no chance of that filtering down to us through the EU. At best something like this might help us block some future domestic gun ban bullshit, but more than likely membership of the EU will only be an added danger to gun owners in the coming decades.
change.org/p/council-of-the-european-union-eu-you-cannot-stop-terrorism-by-restricting-legal-gun-ownership
Just in case any /k/ommandos in European countries haven't signed this yet.
>>29908103
I'd be curious to see it broken down by board
>>29906664
>You also didn't get struck by a car and die today. A small victory?
In socialist Europe? Yes.
>>29903781
How is the EU dictatorial? Burger here. It always seemed like a friendly conglomerate of states to me. Admittedly I don't pay a lot of attention to how the EU works
>>29908406
It's about as far away from direct democracy as you get. There's very little accountability, politicians and bureaucrats can win some small election be sent there and they can disappear into the labyrinth and work in the shadows. It's hard to see what's coming because it's not a transparent or open organization. It sucks up money into who knows where and it's very clear that it's a socialist progressive majority.
Furthermore it wants to, and already does in many cases, supersede law and procedure of an individual nation. People had more power over things, through smaller government, local government and more direct democracy to vote for and implement those things, or not. But the EU is the antithesis of all of that, it's big government of the worst, leftist sort.
And it's not like it's a representation of individual citizens relations with those of another nation. It's all bureaucrat and career positions deciding things from their level and in their world.
tl;dr the EU is a bunch of political elites trying to deceive regular people and turn Europe into a socialist federation of states, not nations, with little autonomy, noguns, and lots and lots of Muslims.
>>29908406
You know how the Supreme Court overruled Illinois' anti-gun laws? Imagine if Canada got to overrule our Supreme Court, took a bunch of money, and then dumped all of San Francisco's hobos in the gym of the high school you used to go to except they filled it with hobos and now the building is condemned, and then lambasted you for not spending enough money on the Coast Guard to save all the Mexicans and Cubans that tried to swim and didn't make it.
The EU is that Canada. Or what >>29908525 said.
>>29905898
>>29905932
Thanks guys!
>>29906079
Wouldn't say "GDP of a farmer's market. Especially the oldest countries in the Union are pretty rich.
>>29906557
That is correct, but it was a big deal. Some manufacturers stopped making guns until this is resolved
>>29906664
In Europe, yeah, it's a victory. This was a big deal for months since last year.
Also we can't even say it wasn't passed yet...
>>29906728
We had gun registrys even before, and even here in Czech Rep. Hell, if it is centralised, I might become a persona non grata in some cucklands, but at least bringing my guns abroad might be easier in the future.
>>29906678
They're retarded and hate guns. Also European Comission is a flawed idea that exists to nitpick and prohibits whatever it can, just to be "active".
>>29906714
Unfortunately this is true, but I feel czech republic won't be afraid to say the truth.
>>29908346
I think Czech Rep has great and efficient gun laws. We have a lower homicide rate than Canada, and by quite a bit (0.8 versus 1,4 I believe). They were even better before the Brusseles nation attacked.
>>29908364
SIGN THIS EU KOMMANDOS AND SIGN IT NOW
>>29908406 Larger EU states force its values and laws related to them on the smaller, because the number of people in the Parliament and such stem directly from the size of the population of these countries. We would benefit a lot from US civics.
>>29908612
Accurate.
>>29906171
Yes
>>29904083
W-what about funland, I think we have pretty decent gun laws.
>>29910218
You can't even carry
>>29901910
good news
>>29901910
Small victory for now. Next we're going to have to get rid of existing restrictions union wide.
When it comes to carry and self-defense laws I think the mass immigration from 3.rd world is going to take care of that once immigrants start terrorize the European middle-class instead of just the poor and powerless natives.
>>29910624
We here in the Czech Republic can carry, but implementation of carry laws is more than necessary for the rest of EU.
>>29910639
Czech Republic is the only EU country I'd really consider moving to for that reason
there are still some idiotic and arbitrary restrictions though
like the FMJ/non-expanding only rule for carry ammo
but hey, I'd still love to carry around a vz. 82 or a 2075 RAMI
>>29910657
Non expading rule is demented, I ignore it.
I'm not gonna have a civilian hurt just because they don't let me use expanding rounds to prevent overpenetration.
>>29909983
the only EU countries with globally relevant economies are Germany, France, and England
>>29910730
Didn't I just say that? "Oldest members of the european union"? There are many more besides, Sweden, Luxembourg, Austria...
>>29910762
Luxembourg may have a very strong economy for it's size and a high GDP per capita, but if Luxembourg dropped off the map tomorrow, the world economy wouldn't blink
>>29910780
It most definitely would. Many international banks have their center there.
>>29910794
a country who's economy is based on being a tax haven is not globally relevant
>>29910802
Its companies are.
Then again if you don't understand basic economics, no use wasting time with you mate.
>>29910780
If Luxembourg would just suddenly disappear it would leave a huge hole in the American and European financial sector and that hole would need to be filled or some very influential bankers are going to be very unhappy.
And who is going to have to fill that hole by using their money? The taxpayers in a form of bail outs of course..
>>29910218
>be a fin
>take a picture of a building
>rentacop doesnt like it
>calls police
>guns taken because lolfucku
>>29911786
Thats what you get from taking pictures Capn, you filthy, filthy NRA member! Literally worse than Hitler.
>>29911786
That's what you get when you extend laws protecting police officers to under educated renacops since you can't employ actual officers that know the law.
You can get your guns or atleast money back if you have 8000€ to pay for a lawyer and patience to wait two to six years for the court to convene. If you win (which you will once you go to court) you can buy new guns with money you get from the security company.
>>29912151
The security company is not required to pay money for guns that cops decide to confiscate. If someone has to pay its the police department or government.
It was not the rentacops decision to take any guns from anyone, he most likely did not even know the guy owned guns. He simply reported suspicious behavior and cops made the decision to act on it.
>>29911786
>He didn't go Molon Labe
Welp
Congratulations, but you guys still have a long way to go. It is much easier to lose your rights when watchfulness wanes than it is to restore them when your vigor returns.
>>29912181
Then you get reparations from the government. Once again if you have the money to employ a lawyer. If your a poor fag who doesn't have a additional 8000-10000€ laying around you're pretty much fucked
>>29912285
There was a case in Finland where a man got his guns confiscated and went to court over them.
Court decided it was wrong to confiscate his guns and ordered the police to hand them back, but they also decided that police department should not be made to pay for the mans legal expenses. He ended up losing around 2000€ to get back stuf rightfully belonging to him.
>>29912236
Vigor is returning. Europeans are starting to feel unsafe in their own countries and the politely smiling police states we've created are crumbling since it has become clear to everybody that they don't have the legal tools nor the resources to fight increasing criminal behavior and religio-political terror that is now facing not just the poor working class areas of Europe but the comfortable middle-class suburbs as well. When formerly gun-grabbing soccermoms are stocking up on bear maces and other pepper sprays you'll know the time of gun-grabbing is over in Europe. This is where we are now. Next up is introducing more relaxed laws on guns since those very same soccermoms that were not even a couple of years ago trying to ban all guns in the whole of Europe are soon going to want to stock up.
The only ones still wanting to ban guns are the political and economical elite especially the unelected European commission and their multinational corporate friends who have armed guards to hide behind and who feel threatened by the very thought of armed populus. Probably for a very good reason.
>>29912348
Sucks to be poor right?
>>29912421
Agreed
>>29912421
You do know that one of the conditions to join the EU is that your country has to have a relatively free market economy right? You rightist dopes will call anything socialist you disagree with
>>29912581
It became a buzzword, really.
When the European comission wants everyone to give up something they own because they don't like it, something is wrong.
>>29912581
>You rightist dopes will call anything socialist you disagree with
EU is the bastard child of Reagan style trickledown economics and crony capitalism and Soviet style police state born in the deepest depths of hell.
It's socialism for the rich and freemarkets and social darwinism for the rest.
>>29908525
everything you say is right, except that about socialism. The EU is about as far from socialism as you can come. They're extreme neo-liberals. Free market is EVERYTHING, and everything is supposed to make people consume more, spend more, and outsource more.
They're so free market, they're willing to turn it into a dictatorship to protect it.
Hooray for boobies.
The fight aint over yet though.
>>29912755
A Vz 58, STG 90, K31, Vz 75, Nagant revolver, Lee Enfield... man this guy has my dream collection.
>>29912755
Almost the perfect euro collection. Needs more Franco-Belgian long guns.
>>29912755
Beautiful collection but that flag. Burn it or better yet use it as a target for all those beauties..
>>29901910
It makes me sad that they tried to ban this perfectly normal things at all.
Its like raving about getting punched in the gut instead of getting kicked in the nuts.
>>29912784
All I'd want to see there is an AG 42 Ljungmann
>>29912776
>>29912796
It's a very old pic. And a EU flag is perfect for annoying people who claim eurotards can't have guns. Collection has grown since then.
>>29912784
Well, the Manurhin MR-73 is obviously french.
I do need more Belgian guns... But it's not really currently scheduled really. My short list atm doesn't contain any more Belgian ones.
>>29912799
Kinda feels like it.
>>29912842
>left handed bolt action in .308?
I don't recognize it.
And the Manurhin is French but it's not a rifle maybe some Axis rifles in there would be nice.
on a totally unrelated note, I saw a French MAC 24/29 on sale not long ago for 1500€. Guess it's not a common gun does anyone know if it's half decent?
>>29912898
>I don't recognize it.
Accuracy International AT .308/7.62x51mm. Got a Steiner M5Xi Military 5-25x56 MSR scope on it, and a Roedale RH50 F T/R bipod.
I've put the thumbhole conversion on it now.
>French MAC 24/29
I'm not familiar with french light machineguns. They've always been pretty quirky in that respect. They rarely wanted to use the more commonly accepted foreign designs.
>>29908103
the largest group is still American you ding dong
