Is trump the hero we need?
http://conservativetribune.com/trump-plan-2nd-amendment/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=ConservativeTribune&utm_content=2016-05-08&utm_campaign=manualpost
>>29897149
How is Trump supposed to pass legislation as a President? Do people not know how the government functions anymore?
>>29897171
What is an executive order. Obama did it plenty of times
>>29897180
Yeah, there's a limit to that. What you're saying is beyond that limit and it's something that should never have been done in the first place. The work now is to roll that executive order bullshit back.
>>>/pol/? I swear to god, you get stupider every year.
>>29897171
He's got his ways
How do people not get that Trump will say just about anything he thinks will get votes? He doesn't give a shit about guns, he just knows that if he yells shall not be infringed enough times the people who think that politics starts and stops at amendment 2 will vote for him.
>>29897149
He is.
>>29897171
President shouldn't be all that powerful. Veto bills, lead military, represent country, select certain people to fill positions. When Obama goes all presidential power crazy people flip out but they would want Trumpkins to do the same thing.
>>29897203
>t. Benis Zanders
>>29897190
I know I shouldn't expect to be spoon fed but executive orders are essentially meant to only influence how existing laws are enforced, correct? Could one negate law by enforcing other law a certain way? (Like enforcing the 2nd amendment favorably, destroying gun regulations)
>>29897190
cry more
>>29897171
Strictly speaking you are correct however in our two party system the president has large power over what gets put up for a bill. Non starters wont get the votes, and he is the defacto party leader.
Of course, you know this, and are just bitching to bitch. If you didnt...well, im sorry, but please spare yourself and just dont respond.
>>29897211
That's what Obama did with immigration, but the republicans dug themselves in by sayings its unconstitutional, so good luck getting any gun laws removed that way.
Go back to >>>/pol/
Jesus christ you faggots shit up EVERY SINGLE BOARD.
>I go to /biz/
>/pol/ is there telling me about the jewish cuckold conspiracy and how stocks are all a made up jewish lie
>I go on /g/
>I keep hearing about Pajeets and how trump is going to stop outsourcing
>go on /int/
>THE JEWS THE JEWS
>go on /k/
>Clickb8 links to some conservative bs saying trump will fix everything
>go on /fit/
>It's the jews they're doingall these bad things
Jesus christ can you just stay in your containment board?
Please, just leave us alone.
>>29897221
You're right, but at the same time a lot of what Trump has claimed he will do is straight up illegal and WILL get his ass impeached if he does it.
>>29897203
>> New York Billionair bankrolls democrats his entire life
>> Decides tor run for president
>> suddenly supports gun rights, anti abortion, anti corporations
>> Believing any of it
>>29897225
It's literally about a candidate wanting to give us nationwide conceal carry. How is that not /k/ related? You're getting massively butthurt about this. If you don't like it there's 50 other threads you can be a part of
>>29897149
I support Trump just because he makes arrogant Eurotrash scream and make Hitler comparisons
The fact he wants us to stop playing world police and to let yurofags handle their own defense is also a nice touch
>>29897149
TRUMP-DUTERTE 2016
YOU ARE THE YIN, WE ARE THE YANG
>>29897245
Like I said. /pol/ is this retarded.
>>29897225
>/pol/ is everywhere
Kek
everywhere is /pol/
>>29897245
So you voting for Hillary instead?
>>29897235
Alot of what obama claimed too was illegal or a very grey area, its just that trump pushed it to 11.
Par for the course. Spoilers: he wont be able to do half the stuff he promised and he will blame congress, just like obama.
>>29897246
>It's literally about a candidate wanting to give us nationwide conceal carry. How is that not /k/ related?
Yes it is mildly related but politics is more relevant to /pol/.
It's just quite frankly getting a little bit annoying to go on ANY board and there's /pol/ cross-board shitposters calling people "cucks" or posting funnie pictures of jews.
>>29897223
So you're saying there's a chance?
>>29897257
Does your mom know that you browse 4chan?
>>29897225
Sorry you see so much problematic bullshit on 4chan my lefty friend, maybe you should go to reddit where people like you have plenty of boards to post on
>>29897265
Don't be fucking stupid.
>>29897149
yes, he is the hero we need. the alternative (bernie or hillary) pretty much guarantees a new federal assault weapon ban and other everlasting cuck bullshit (supreme court nominations??) basically if trump doesnt get elected, the second amendment dies. this is the most important election of many generations, all you kommandos need to vote and get your little nigger friends to vote as well for pro 2A candidate
>>29897225
Maybe... Just maybe, /pol/ ideas are popular because they are interesting and convincing.
Maybe the Jews really are a problem.
>>29897291
Exactly it's trump or Hillary so you better chose wisely. You might not like trump but if you like your guns you better vote him over Hillary.
>>29897288
>>29897225
today I will remind them
>>29897288
>Sorry you see so much problematic bullshit on 4chan my lefty friend
ah yes the common "u must be a leftist from tumblr if you don't want to keep hearing MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA LE BASED DONALD TRUMP GAS THE KIKES" memes over and over and over.
>>29897281
If she did I'd be grounded from the computer and get no chicken tendies for a week.
Hilarious and original
>>29897171
>>29897149
He would presumably direct congress to pass said laws which if they elected him president would be easy to do.
What excites me is the getting rid of gun and magazine bans becaude he would do so on a federal level....which would pretty much shit on all state and local gun control permanently, and if written loosely enough could effectively allow the NFA and other 'gun' bans to get nuked too. Aka brand new machine guns and even destructive devices with hopefully less paperwork.
Which would be a fucking fatal blow to gun grabbers along with national carry. And then they would lose the culture war once hundreds of millions of americans amass far more potent weaponry like mgs, missile launchers, and un-neutered fully armed tanks and jets to really give the 2nd amendment some teeth, and finally beat yemen and the rest of the world who generally don't enforce their gun laws as effectively and just get illegal weapons of the same caliber.
>>29897304
>> Trump is pro nuclear proliferation
>> let that sink in for a minute
>>29897225
/pol/ shitposters on /k/ are still preferable to yuropoors, liberals and other assorted noguns
>>29897301
>Maybe... Just maybe, /pol/ ideas are popular because they are interesting and convincing.
>Maybe the Jews really are a problem.
Yes, anon. Everything is a Jewish conspiracy and Donald Trump is going to fix everything and restore white america to its roots.
Idk man, there's some extreme hidden irony behind discussing the Jewish conspiracy on an anime imageboard desu.
>>29897307
Y'know when you guys do this bullshit and call everyone marxists, it makes us like you less, right?
>>29897324
Sounds fantastic
>>29897331
/pol/ and tumblr are two sides of the same coin.
Both are echo chambers for retards who have no place in actual life. There's a reason around half of /pol/ is NEET
>>29897323
>What excites me is the getting rid of gun and magazine bans becaude he would do so on a federal level....which would pretty much shit on all state and local gun control permanently, and if written loosely enough could effectively allow the NFA and other 'gun' bans to get nuked too. Aka brand new machine guns and even destructive devices with hopefully less paperwork.
As a californian, this idea excites.
However it's irrelevant because it isn't going to happen.
>>29897225
The red pill is hard to swallow sometimes, but maybe you should cry more faggot
>>29897346
Five bucks says that you don't actually talk to people like that offline.
>>29897346
>The red pill is hard to swallow sometimes, but maybe you should cry more faggot
Which redpill? Just claiming everything is the Jews like a fucking retard and getting BTFO on every single board outside of your echo chamber that you try to post this shit on?
Everytime a /pol/ stormfag comes to /biz/ he gets BTFO.
Everytime a /pol/ stormfag comes to /sci/ he gets BTFO.
Everytime a /pol/ stormfag comes to /his/ he gets BTFO.
It's just getting tiring now
>>29897331
Reality: when something slightly political comes up in /k/ the spergs come out "GO BACK TO POLE YOU STORMFAGGOTS!!!1!!!!"
Look at this thread. You guys derailed it, not the /pol/ fags.
>>29897171
He can end Bush Sr., Clinton and King chimps executive orders meaning chink ak, russian svds and actual aks not that gimped saiga bullshit along with all the evil "armor piercing" ammo and get rid of the 922r bullshit
He cannot repeal a law passed by congress and signed.
So the Hughes and NFA would have to go the legislative route.
>>29897356
Not him but
>I don't know why anonymous websites exist
>>29897366
I agree. Gun politics are very relevant.
Trump shilling is not, /pol/nigger.
>>29897374
>as if that makes him any less of a faggot.
>>29897379
I think this thread is Trump shilling too, but it is about gun laws so it is up for discussion
>>29897203
His sons are bigger gun nuts than most of /k/
Its true though that guns isnt his main issue. He cares way more about trade, immigration and foreign policy.
But I see no reason to think he would restrict our rights further.
>>29897356
i bet you still believe in "if you dont have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"
trump's positions seem promising.
my wishlist is;
>remove the import ban on foreign guns, this would diversify the market and make guns cheaper by saturation
>remove suppressors, sbrs, sbs' off the nfa registry or at least bring down the cost of a tax stamp
>open the MG registry
and my pipe dream is;
>dissolve the nfa/hughes amendment
>>29897235
Obama already kills the families of terrorists. Ever heard of double tap drone strikes?
>>29897385
Donald Trump is writing checks that his ass can't cash.
/discussion.
>>29897366
update
>donald trump is the last future for white america!
>>29897426
i knew /pol/ hadn't showed up yet cause no "muh jews" arguments had popped up.
glad to see you guys are here, now leave
>>29897366
>>29897415
>Reality: when something KEK KEK NIGGER KIKE YOU'RE A MARXIST comes up in /k/ the spergs come out "GO BACK TO POLE YOU STORMFAGGOTS!!!1!!!!"
ftfy
>>29897330
Using computers invented by whites, the internet invented by whites, etc, etc, etc...
>>29897445
What does that have to do with anything?
>>29897389
Bingo
>>29897211
Eos are directives to exceutive branch offices about policy and procedures.
They are not laws. They can direct how an agency will work within a law or framework. For example DoD "allow womyn to join vombat roles", dhs " dont deport mexicans with kids , focus on fellons ", atf "prossicute people who are selling guns as business with out an ffl",
All agencies/departments "only do business wiyh contractors who pay all workers at least $15/hr"
>>29897452
tbqh you could replace /pol/ with literally any other board
>>29897439
>KEK KEK NIGGER KIKE YOU'RE A MARXIST
1. Things that never happened
2. When gun politics was allowed in /k/, we didn't have that level of shitposting.
newfaggot.
>>29897389
Yeah, his sons aren't up for a vote. You had a chance to stand with Rand or put a cruz missile into office. A guy who wrote amicus briefs for the heller decision.
And you fucked it up on a snake oil salesman.
>>29897245
This, I'm just waiting to see which eventual mass shooting he'll use to justify walking back his pro-2A talk. I expect it to go, "I love the second amendment, but we gotta do something about these crazy guys shooting up people"
I know the whole quote from him about republicans is bullshit, but god damn if it's not true.
>Trump is a good candidate, he will fix America and kill all blacks!
>>29897472
>not knowing how ftfy works.
You really shouldn't be calling anyone new.
>>29897324
>Trump accidently makes civilian ownership of nukes legal
>everyone becomes Mother Base with nuclear armed compounds
>world peace out of total fear of armageddon occurs with the exception of unlucky lanza assholes who get utterlly annihilated by everyone else using tactical nukes on the weirdos.
>>29897490
Okay just ignore my entire post and talk about something else. Get the fuck out you moron.
>>29897508
>>29897341
Actually they estimate Trump's odds to be about 30 percent which isn't great but not impossible. And they predict it to go up if there is terror attacks or the economy hits the shitter.
And as a fellow commiefornian I predict riots as well no matter who wins, either in our state with Trump or in the Red States if their demigod Trump gets defeated...in which they'll probably go full civil war and bundy/malheur/waco times a 1000.
So no matter what we get a happening. How fantastic ;_;
>>29897499
>curtis lemay comes down from heaven, smokes a cigar and drinks with trump, and leaves
>>29897490
>format of posting in an underwater animeweaving image board matters lol you fail
good argument, autist
>>29897547
You were calling people newfags when you're clearly new
>>29897514
Do you ever get tired of not just being retarded but aggressively retarded?
>>29897552
Wow let us all bow down to your great honor.
You've been on this shithole for longer than we have, how incredible. Thank you for blessing us with your great presence and expertise at wasting time on this shithole
>>29897384
Fair enough
>>29897552
You're still not refuting my arguments, newfag.
>>29897561
Okay, look dude. I'm going to spoonfeed this to you.
Gun politics is one thing. /pol/ shilling is another. This is the latter, not the former.
god fucking dammit.
I just came here for a nice, civilized-ish thread about how we want gun laws to change if (when) trump is elected.
and we managed to fuck it all up.
goddammit /k/
>>29897628
The "go back to /pol/" crowd ruined it, starting >>29897225
>>29897628
Donald Trump will never be the president of the United States. He's already given Hillary enough material to smear him like Romney got it four years ago and he's done it ten times over.
And if he was president, he could not pull this off.
>>29897646
You know that /k/ is the board that hates you guys more than any other, right?
This is mild compared to how we used to react to you.
>>29897646
fyi, the faggot that always screams gb2/pol/ is a crossdressing faggot. its quite disgusting really.
>>29897654
And yet he just keeps winning. If anyone had the chance to make it happen it would be him
>>29897670
Makes sense why he hates pol so much though
>>29897666
>I speak for the whole board
Seeing how there is a hair-pulling shitfest in this thread, I don't think /k/ unanimously hates /pol/.
>>29897672
He keeps winning primary races in a political system where the two parties of any relevance have been shedding members and can no longer claim even a plurality. Big difference.
>>29897670
Oh, /pol/. You're not fooling anyone.
>>29897689
It's the hundredth hair-pulling shitfest in a long line of hair-pulling shit fests.
>>29897689
>>29897716
Every single board hates /pol/.
It was literally created as a containment board and one of the global rules was "Keep /pol/ in /pol/" until moot just gave up on life and started using drugs
>>29897716
>that one willy .jpg that they always post as evidence
you know, that Bush Putin "/pol/ /k/ Best friends forever" thing was a MeeM too back in the day.
I can't find it anywhere in my folders so there's that.
>>29897740
You cant contain /pol/
I hope so
I used to enjoy /pol/ for news and doompaul memes. I'm a refugee seeking asylum in /k/ and /sp/ until Trump loses.
>>29897740
>Every single board hates /pol/.
For the last time, can you stop speaking out of your ass for once in this thread?
>>29897746
>It says /pol/
>Not /new/
>Not /n/
Yeah, we hated your earlier incarnations too, newfaggot. That's why Der Mod was remembered fondly.
>>29897760
>For the last time, can you stop speaking out of your ass for once in this thread?
I frequent many boards and it's quite clear that the board regulars thoroughly despise /pol/.
>>29897759
>Trump
>Lose
Pick one
>>29897746
>>29897760
Oh, you don't remember the /pol/ocaust? Just the raw rage being poured in from every other board?
Poor baby. You're entitled to your own opinion. Not your own facts.
>>29897768
I experienced the opposite. fite me irl fuccboi
>someone has actually saved all these anti-pol memes
i see this fellow has a serious axe to grind
but why?
>>29897791
They just get in the middle of every sane, reasonable discussion and start spewing some retarded Alex Jones-tier bullshit eachtime
>>29897802
>i see this fellow has a serious axe to grind
>but why?
To respond to these autistic /pol/fags shitting up every board and show them that they aren't welcome.
It is their usual tactic and it's really the only response to their lazy """arguments"""
>>29897779
We need to remake this with Duterte for /pol/
>>29897791
Why would we like you?
>pic related
>>29897804
Look at this thread. Who ruined it and started the shit flinging? Not the stormfaggots, but guys like >>29897225
>>29897835
It's probably because you guys stick out like sore thumbs wherever you go as a consequence of being completely incapable of containing your autism or shilling for your bullshit merchant.
You ruined this thread by posting it here.
>>29897481
Neither of those people were ever going anywhere. Please at least pretend to be rational. You can't win an election or even a nomination without SOMETHING approaching charisma, which paul and cruz both dramatically lack.
Trump is openly very pro 2A. He is the only candidate with a chance in hell who is. I'm sorry that life isn't perfect and you couldn't get your flawless constitutional conservative, but deal with reality as it is.
>>29897855
Who the fuck do you want to win the election? Hillary?
>>29897855
I agree that OP was a pro-Trump shiller but we were actually having a discussion about whether Trump would actually do anything for gun owners.
And then this princess>>29897225 comes out of nowhere and now it's a /k/ vs /pol/ shit which is retarded.
>>29897861
I didn't say that I wouldn't be voting for him. I just said that you're fucking retarded and have probably already given someone your social security number over the phone because they claimed to be from the power company.
>>29897869
Quiet. /pol/
>>29897871
Oh ok so you're just extracting a skoch of narcissistic pride from being the special snowflake who supported candidates with the broad appeal of kosher kale.
>>29897871
You can't talks shit about trump though. He's got a 50/50 at the general and the other is Hillary. We need to reduce the chance of a Hillary win by all means necessary. If that means shill trump then we have to shill trump. It's like you don't want any ar's after 2016
>>29897887
Actually, I'm the guy who never fell for the Bullshit. He's the candidate now and he's not Hillary but he's going to get fucked by steel in the general.
You, on the other hand, had the chance to support the guy who wrote the Amicus Briefs for the Heller decision or Paul 2: Freedom Boogaloo and you fucked it up.
American politics are not about who has charisma. We vote for the people that scare us less.
>>29897900
Not him but no thanks. I've voted in two elections now where I sit in the booth and honestly think my vote matters and I checked McCain and Romney thinking I was doing my part when in reality neither cared about or supported the things I do.
I'll be voting libertarian this year, they're the most pro-gun and pro-freedom party, McAfee is the most /k/ candidate there is.
Its time
We must invade /pol/
>>29897915
I sincerely don't see Hillary as the next president of the United States. You don't get elected with that enormous volume of baggage. Frankly, I think almost any candidate could beat her with even the most basic campaigning strategy.
Now, that said, I don't know if you're using "you" in the specific sense as in just me or if you're using "you" in the broad sense of "the voting public." The voting public do not vote on principles (and really never have), they vote on emotions. Rand Paul is a very principled guy, and he sucks at the emotional part. Cruz is even worse, because he makes most of the voting public feel only disgust. Your beef with our nominee is actually just beef with human nature, and for your own sake, sweetheart, you should get over it.
>>29897936
So what you're saying is that you're voting for Hillary.
>>29897957
A vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary.
>>29897956
Nope. He's the guy who won't go full gun ban. I'll be voting for and supporting him. But I'm not going to eat the bullshit that you have.
>>29897962
Actually, since he's the only one that can stop her, that's not even remotely true.
The LP has one function: Splitting the vote and getting the democrat elected.
>>29897716
Once again, this image is cancer
>>29897964
Someone wasn't around for his populist reform party days.
>>29897964
Did you ignore the entirety of the content of my post? What bullshit have I eaten? I never claimed Trump was a perfect (or even good) candidate, or even vaguely principled to begin with.
>>29897975
To be fair, the green party exists too.
>>29897975
>Implying the man who has the lowest approval rating of any candidate in history has a chance.
nope.
>>29897995
Are you going to kneel to Hillary and suck her cock or actually try and fight?
>>29897985
No you were just the one being a condescending shit.
And the Green Party? They exist but they ran Roseanne Barr. They're now completely marginalized unlike the LP.
The Democrats learned their lesson. We didn't.
>>29897957
No, I'm abstaining from voting for anti-gun candidates and anti-freedom candidates. Trump is an advocate for eminent domain.
Say I own a gun range, and it's in an area that that DC wants to use for any purpose. I like my gun range and I want my clientele to be able to come shoot and enjoy firearms whenever they want. But, the federal government decides that land should be used for something else. Their first plan of action is buying it, but I won't sell it because it's not much but it's mine and my clientele counts on me.
Their second plan of action is going full bureau of land management. Both Hillary and Trump support that.
So no, voting for someone who represents your best interest is not voting for Hillary.
Drop the fear mongering tactic, fix the policies instead.
>>29897995
>approval rating
you have an impressive lack of knowledge of polling
trump has no approval rating since he's not a politician, you're thinking of favorability rating. Trump's is very low, yes. Hillary's is also very low. It's not the be all end all.
>>29898012
I'm being condescending because you keep doing that thing where you say "WELL YOU COULD'VE VOTED FOR PIE IN THE SKY IDEOLOGUE" while ignoring the reality of democratic politics.
You're right about the green party, though I think the lesson the republicans actually need to learn is to stop fielding milquetoast neocons who cause low as fuck turnout. We learned that this time.
>>29898014
This^
>2016
>Not voting libertarian
You niggers are asking to be raped by the establishment
>>29898014
A vote not for trump is one less vote for Hillary to win
>>29897995
I'm also the guy saying that he's going to get slaughtered.
But I'm not going to help, unlike you.
>>29898020
>since he's not a politician
not an elected politician, excuse me
>>29898014
>eminent domain
>thinking people will change a policy that's been in place 100 years
Why not whine about child labor laws while you're at it?
Also you do know eminent domain isn't straight seizure, you get compensated (not like you'd know about owning land beyond your basement though)
>>29898012
>The Democrats learned their lesson. We didn't.
No, the LP remained principled and triggered the republicans who refused to change their ways to recognize the growing discontent with pro-gun pro-freedom anti-war.
But instead of adapting, they just talked shit and marginalized those people the same way they did the blue collar Americans and gun owners that chose Trump over Rubio/Bush/Cruz
>>29897936
Petersen > McAfee
>>29898009
Or I could vote for someone who hasn't been sucking Clinton's clit for 20+ years.
>>29898022
>trump
>the establishment
u absolutely wot
>>29898043
>blue collar Americans and gun owners that chose Trump over Rubio/Bush/Cruz
I gotta say, the funniest shit of this election cycle was watching the GOPe hold its fucking nose and support cruz over trump, they fucking hate both of them so much.
>>29898055
>GOP
>Not the establishment
You are one dense degenerate fag
>>29898062
The party of the establishment, which has been seized by a man who has nothing to do with it. Have you paid ANY attention? You can argue Trump's principles all you like but he's absolutely not establishment.
>>29898020
Rand or Cruz were problematic. But they are far more bankable than Trump. They were not substantially worse than other candidates, unlike Trump who has insulted all of the demographics that need to be peeled away from the Democrats in order to win.
Every criticism you have of them goes double for Trump and this says nothing about his non-sensical, unfulfillable campaign promises.
So why don't you stop acting like such a know-it-all fucking cunt?
>>29898022
>>29898014
So does Hillary and you're effectively voting for her. Oh, and eminent doman has been a thing for forever. It's not going away. What would need to happen is to have the Kelo Decision overturned. What's your point?
When the immigrants vote against gun ownership at 70-80% and the libertarian party wants theses immigrants it shows how completely useless Lib-shit is.
Seriously capitalism, private property etc. It all is going out the window if we become Brazil.
>>29898051
Third party is never going to win and you know that
>>29898024
>A vote not for trump is one less vote for Hillary to win
The RNC should have thought about that before they ignored the growing Liberty movement for 8 fucking years. They had their chance, maybe it's time to reap what they sow.
>inb4 BUT MUH AWB
Lots of Trump voters seem to think he'll get rid of anti-gun laws, why couldn't somebody do the same in 2020?
>Also you do know eminent domain isn't straight seizure, you get compensated (not like you'd know about owning land beyond your basement though)
Confirmed for not reading my post. Their first tactic is money, their second is force.
I work and manage a 3,000 acre ranch on the border I could very well inherit in the next ten years and I don't fucking want some asshole tearing up the place I shot my first deer at and drank my first beer at to "Build a Great Wall, it's gonna be great!"
>>29898079
>he bought into the "we need minority votes!" meme.
You are a moron. Major minorities in this country are ~bought~ by the democrats. Republicans will never win them. And you're especially idiotic because you're unaware that despite this, Trump does better with minorities than ANY OF HIS COMPETITORS DID.
It turns out getting called racist 24/7 does not actually make you a racist, either that or the minorities that vote republican don't give a fuck.
>>29898068
>Trump
>Not a totalitarian
>Not using bureaucracy to fulfill his dream
>Anti-establishment
I can't tell if trolling or density greater than osmium
>>29898082
It may never win, but its going to do what the populist party did in the 1800s. If it does ever win its gonna be a boon for me and the others here in favor for removing the NFA.
>>29898099
Do you even know what the word establishment means you goddamn illiterate? Authoritarian has less than nothing to do with it. Again, that's down to the man's principles, but he's completely unassociated with the actual political class of America. Please learn what words mean.
>>29898043
Green Party.
Getting
Republicans
Elected
Each
November
That was the joke. This is just basic political math. Voting is a tactical act and purity means nothing.
>>29898062
>Muh degeneracy!
Do you guys ever wonder how we can spot you right away?
>>>/pol/
>>29898068
There is a party of the establishment. Its called the democrats.
They're the party of microsoft, apple, Wall Street and the public sector unions. All filth.
>>29898055
>>29898068
>>29898110
Isn't this site 18+?
>>29898101
>populist party
You mean strengthening the majority of the party that they hate more than the one that they're trying to poach votes from?
>>29898110
HAHAHAHAHAAHHA
>>29898085
>Not wanting a free fence to defend yourself from spics
>>29898127
No, cause both parties to adopt their ideals or face extinction.
>>29898130
>Free
>>29898129
The man was a socialite because he was rich as fuck. As a politician he is hated by the grand bulk of republican officeholders, anyone even close to the left, and anyone in the media save for, like, sean hannity and breitbart.
>>29898139
Too bad the LP is a shadow of that.
>>29898151
The fire rises.
>>29898120
>Implying the GOP is not full out establishment
>What is FDA
>What is CIA
>What is IRS
>What is FBI
>What is NSA
>What is the Fed
>What is DoD
>What is DoJ
>What is OMB
>What is ATF
>What is USDA
I can't comprehend your denial and stupidity
>hurr durr em an patriot and liek fredom
>>29898147
You can't accept the fact that this man is one of the crony capitalists that have been steering the establishment can you?
>/k/ has a whole literal drive saved of anti-pol matieral
This board is the fucking odd one out, it's got some odd cognotive dissoance, will scream at russians or "Vatniks" and xenophobic as fuck but then will turn into a pill-popping hippie once anything even semi-related to /pol/ pops up.
>>29898173
Moving the goalposts. He was a relevant establishment influence when he threw money around. Now he's not, and they want to destroy him. Can you see the distinction there? He's stealing the GOP and he terrifies democrats politically. Nobody minds another bag of money, but Trump decided to be something else.
>>29898182
Yes, he decided to become a populist demagogue to stroke his ego and shape the country into him and his investor's favor.
>>29898192
I have absolutely no doubt that ego is one of if not his primary motive here, but he's been kvetching about America's trade policies for literal decades. I think his policy objectives are exactly what he says they are, actually.
>>29898179
Because /pol/tards ruin every single thread that they get involved in here. Every single WW2 thread deteriorates into Nazi masturbation and what if scenarios from stormfags.
>>29898170
And you think the Democrats don't want to expand all of those?
>>29898198
>His trade policiy objectives are exactly what he says they are
>Imma build a wall and make Mexico pay for it
>>29898198
His protectionist tariffs are Hoover tier and will ruin the coal and grain industries almost instantly. Rampant inflation will follow along with increases to the minimum wage.
>>29898179
Because there's no functional difference between you and the bernouts.
I could swap your buzzwords into one of their sentences and it would make perfect sense. You are both disgusting authoritarians like your boy Putin and we hate you all for the same reasons.
>>29898201
>And uou think the Democrats and the GOP don't want to expand all of those?
FTFY
>>29898200
And then you bitch about people posting about soviet shit and take a large loogie over anything russian, don't think you are anything different.
This board is fucking cripe, they'll spend almost a night complaining about /pol/ and shitting up a thread, has happened plenty of times. I think the problem is actually all the whiny asshurt cunts who think it's okay to hijack a thread because they're pissed. Sick and tired of this shit.
The only /pol/ posting which is actually problematic whatsoever is their cuckold shit, now that gets annoying.
>>29898209
>You
>EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS A EXACT REPLICA OF MY ENEMY
jesus christ.
I'm not a goddamned authoritarian, I'm an anarchist who thinks all power should rest in the people, learn that life isn't as simple as red and blue you autist.
>>29898208
Again, moving the goalposts. We can disagree about whether his trade policies are good ideas, I'm only arguing here that they're in the first place explicitly anti-establishment and in the second place he's sincere about them.
>>29897817
>i can't argue so i'll just post maymays
>>29898120
>Voting is a tactical act and purity means nothing.
Well this election very well could be the one that changes that, from the Trump rising in the GOP and the Libertarians abandoning the GOP.
If my local burger joint starts pooping on my bacon cheddar burger I'll no longer eat there.
Trump voters made their move and got a candidate, the LP that doesn't like Trump may as well make theirs and BTFO the Paul Ryan RNC completely.
>>29898130
>not knowing a single fucking thing about the border
Friendo you don't want the Feds on your property. There's a few miles between the southern property line and the Rio Grande, they can fuck off back there. The problem is they want to use your gate, your roads, interview you about illegal activity you may have scene, patrol the land because it's a possible construction site, it scares off all the wildlife.
My uncle agreed to have a pipeline built along the southern property line for a cash payout and we couldn't go within 100 feet to just look and any time we shot within earshot of the pipeline some dickhead from Houston emailed us and threatened to terminate the contract.
If that's how bad the private sector is I don't want to know how bad the federal government is under Trump who tried to bulldoze and pave a parking lot out of an old woman's house in Vegas.
>>29898221
>they're in the first place explicitly anti-establishment as long as they benefit his personnal agenda
FTFY
>>29898259
Right, those things aren't mutually exclusive. My personal agenda is to remove every gun control law ever signed and shoot the individuals responsible, but that's hardly an establishment position. Again, this is moving the goalposts. The question of whether trump is an establishment candidate has been plainly answered in the negative. Not a good point to criticize him from, there are plenty of others.
>>29898094
Trump's numbers are awful with Hispanics and you can't win the white house, epsecaly running republican, without them unless you put together a very broad coalition. The Trump/Clinton map makes it abundantly clear that Hispanic votes will be decisive.
>>29898221
Then you of all people should get that.
Oh, wait. This is you.
>>29898285
Trump's numbers are terrible with hispanics, but other republicans hardly do better. I'd argue that the bigger issue for him is turnout though. If white America turns out in sufficient numbers the hispanic vote won't be as relevant as they typically are (and based on primary turnout, this isn't even unlikely). If we're talking electoral strategy though there're still avenues for appealing to the hispanic vote if just in numbers sufficient to keep them from being the limiting factor on his chances.
>>29898303
what in god's name are you shitposting about?
>>29898285
Trump uses and will continue using the establishment for his personnal benefit like he always did. He once was a dem and now he's running for the gop. He either discards his own convictions for monetary gain or legimitly has a 65 IQ. In both cases he's a fuckwit not to be trusted with "control" of the world's most powerful country
>>29898303
Meant for... >>29898218
>>29898303
Understand exactly what?
Also, I hate antifa violently.
They're just consumer activists.
I'm more of proudhon or stirner, mate.
An actual leftist, not just a feely or bored bastard.
Also funnily enough, I'd vote in people like Marine Le Pen, Nigel Farage, Trump just because they're the better populist alternative, doesn't mean I like them. Just means I know they're not going to scab my money to erect penis statute.
>MFW that's my Glock 29 in OP's pic
>I don't start /pol/ threads outside /pol/
fuck my life
>>29898337
Yeah... Until proven otherwise, you're a milquetoast commie like every other "anarchist" I've ever met.
>>29897359
> ever going to those boards
>>29898348
What are you even trying to say you dumb fuck, I'm not even sure what you are trying to imply, you just seem to scream at people for being polacks and then whine at anarchists, make your fucking mind. Are all /k/ids like this?
>>29898347
>OP confirmed for stormfag shill.
In other news, the sun came up this morning.
Oh, and the next time you go to /pol/?
Stay there.
>>29898347
Too beautiful not to use
>>29897190
>"obama did that plenty of times"
>"HURR DURR GO BACK TO POL U RACIST!"
>>29898600
>>29898600
Learn how to take a fucking hint, nigger.
>>29898626
lolwat
I dont even like /pol/. I was pointing out your logical piece of shit flaw of calling everyone /pol/ for no reason.
>>29898640
>Trump shills
>Not /pol/tards 95% of the time.
pick one.
>>29898671
I dont even like trump. Again, i was just pointing out a flaw of calling people /pol/ for no reason, but if you just want to call me /pol/ over and over again, go ahead.
>>29897389
>His sons are bigger gun nuts than most of /k/
This leads me to belive he will do nothing for us.
His sons likely have TONS of money tied up in full autos and would stand to loose most of it if they were made legal.
Its like how the NRA will never push for it because all of their big doners pay them too much money to keep us peons from having full funs.
>>29897939
pol already is k, has it's own middle east thread
>>29897265
>Instead
>Implying you aren't basically voting for Hillary either way
We got played. This game's been rigged from the start.
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