Glock 19
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Educate me on glock 19 generations please.
Is newer better?
>>29875215
Depends what you want. Gen4 has better grip texture, slightly smaller grip with backstraps, and larger mag release that's also reversible
Gen 2 is best
>>29875251
nope gen 3
>>29875258
Wrong
>>29875251
>>29875258
>>29875264
all wrong
vp9 is best dont listen to them op
>>29875264
n-no you....
>>29875270
>dat shill tho
>>29875270
vp9 a shit
>>29875258
He ain't lying.
>>29875236
Does the gen 4 19 have a flat slide release like the gen 3 does? I've got a gen 3 Glock 19 and a gen 4 Glock 34 (pic related) and the 34 has that little lip on the slide release that makes it a little bit easier to use.
Not a big deal or anything, just curious.
>>29875321
You know you can buy those slide releases, right?
>>29875337
For sure, I was just curious if the gen 4 19s came with them or if they kept the flat slide release the gen 3 has.
Gen 2 - Good, lacks finger grooves and rail which is either good or bad depending on your preference
Gen 3 - Gooder, has rail and finger grooves and a different grip texture which is either good or bad depending on your preference
Gen 4 - has larger magazine release, replaceable back straps and a different grip texture which is either good or bad depending on your preference
>>29875374
ignore that guy, he doesn't actually know the answer to your question.
Yes, gen 4 has typical flat slide release.
>>29875215
Mulder used the gen 3, so it's got that going for it.
>>29875377
Gen - 4 has more potential to catastrophically explode
>>29875400
>This
>>29875400
How so?
>>29875294
implying you wouldn't suck a dick for a modern welrod
>>29875436
havent you seen the pictures and the press releases?
>>29875459
I've been living under a rock.
>>29875471
if you want this to happen to you, get a glock
>>29875471
You're being trolled just fyi.
>>29875494
Those two images are not related.
>>29875510
>>29875500
and now the anti anti glock shills come aboard like always, every thread
>>29875494
What exactly causes them to do this? Is this a fairly common occurrence?
>>29875494
Pulling pics of weapons in distress is easy.
>fag
>>29875516
Those who have run thousands of rounds through their Glocks without issue must just have miracle babies, right?
>>29875525
>>29875494
goes to show glock and h&k are shitty not to be trusted brands. its best if op stuck with something american like ruger, or turkish like canik
>>29875215
Well, I have all my 9mm pistols in gen 3
and all my other calibers in gen 4
it's a matter of preference but I have medium sized hands so slimmer is better in my opinion so I like the new grip texture of gen4, really the only innovation on a gen 4 glock is the dual recoil spring...which is an "advancement" and thus is nice for .45 ACP, .40 S&W, 10mm and etc.
Despite all the talk of +P loads and crap, most people who shoot 9mm use 115 grain fmj for plinking and 124 grain for hollow points or fmj for carry.
Supposedly Gen 3 springs couldn't handle a steady diet of slightly higher powered nato surplus. I don't know about that, however, I do know when gen4 glock 17's and 19's first came out, the dual recoil spring was too strong for 115 grain ammo and needed a break in period of shooting heavier loads to reliably cycle light loads.
So if your just into 9mm then get a gen 3, but anything else, get gen 4
>>29875321
Those welds that extend the release are only on the "Long Barrel" models for both gen3 and gen4
What is in your picture is a G17L or a G34
>>29875565
Oh yeah, and the larger mag release is nice on the gen 4 and some people will say that's worth it alone as behind replacing the sights, most people with gen 3's upgrade the mag release.
>>29875541
Right? I have never taken my upper down to the bare slide for a cleaning on my Gen 1, tens of thousands of rounds of all manner of ammo and casings and all she does is feed, fire and eject, feed, fire and eject, feed, fire and eject.
Early gen 4s had a recoil spring issue too, but they warranty it for free
>>29875215
Gen 4's initially had some hiccups with erratic ejection patterns, (brass to face.)
Gen 3's were widely loved for chewing through and spitting out any ammunition you fed them.
The problem with gen 4's was due to early gen 4 Glock 19's using the old 332 ejector (which had been standard in gen 3's for the past ten years) with a new extractor:
http://glockparts.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=7285&CAT=708
The problem didn't effect everyone, and could be fixed by putting the older extractor in:
http://glockparts.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=7284&CAT=708
Or by putting in the newer ejector https://glockparts.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=123022&CAT=748 as Glock ended up doing in later Gen 4's to correct the issue.
Incidentally, if you choose to purchase a Gen 3 for reliability reasons - ask the gun salesmen to show you which ejector / extractor the pistol has. I recently purchased a newer produced Gen 3, which had the old 332 ejector with the newer extractor, and initially experienced erratic ejection, brass to face, and a double feed. So there are "in between" Gen 3's out there, something a lot of people aren't aware of. Newer Gen 3's can often be identified by having a 4 letter prefix serial # rather than a 3 letter prefix.
I have some of these parts on backorder because I wanted to replace them in my newer Gen 3, but after putting a thousand rounds through the pistol I haven't had any other problems. Funny enough I owned several Gen 4's before this and never had any issues.
>>29875519
Certain Glocks (I believe predominantly ones chambered in .40SW) had what's known as an unsupported chamber, and the long story short is that if you used incorrectly handloaded ammo there was a chance that the part of the cartridge that protruded out over the mouth of the chamber could rupture and blow up your gun. That's the story of the "Glocknade" and it's borderline fuddlore.
Better options may exist in 2016 (probably mostly from an ergonomic standpoint), but the Glock pistol is the gold standard of defensive handguns for a reason. The fact that some of the early models blew up when fed super hot bubba reloads isn't much of an indictment in my book.
>>29875546
>turkish
>to be trusted
>>29875766
Exactly this. Retardloads. Reminds me of a story
>be at indoor range
>hear guy talking about how his revolver blew up
>ask him what happened
>'well my daughter was shooting this s&w snubby .357, here let me show you'
>opens bag and shows me mangled ass frame and cylinder broken in half
>'and it just blew up!'
>holy shit is she ok?
>points at teenage daughter, 'yeah she's fine'
>i tell him i'm glad nobody was hurt
>"by the way, was that factory ammo?"
>guy responds
>'hmm no, they were reloads.'
the way he answered it was almost like he was unaware of the connection. glad his 16 yo daughter didn't lose any fingers or an eye..
>>29875766
>Certain Glocks (I believe predominantly ones chambered in .40SW) had what's known as an unsupported chamber, and the long story short is that if you used incorrectly handloaded ammo there was a chance that the part of the cartridge that protruded out over the mouth of the chamber could rupture and blow up your gun. That's the story of the "Glocknade" and it's borderline fuddlore.
Not "certain Glocks." The first generation (this was back in the 80s), before a recall. Even 1st gen .40 caliber Glocks are fine if they have the new barrel. Stop spreading even more fuddlore while trying to dispel it.
I've owned Gen 3 and Gen 4. I prefer the Gen 4 mainly because of the bigger mag release and the better grip texture. Gen 3 mag releases feel extremely mushy and I just don't like them. The grip texture
The Gen 4 trigger is nicer too. Out of the box, it feels like the Gen 3 trigger feels after about 1000 rounds.
I think that the dual recoil spring might be inherently better, maybe more durable in the long-run, but there are a lot fewer aftermarket recoil spring options for Gen 4 than are available for the Gen 3, so if you like to fiddle with stuff like that, the Gen 4 isn't going to let you.
>>29875851
Oops. I accidentally'd the word "early" between certain and Glocks. I know it was a super long time ago.
>>29875782
What's wrong with caniks? I like mine
>>29875864
strange, i worked a gun shop and i fingerfucked glocks all day for months. i still hang out at gun shops and fingerfuck glocks just because. i prefer the mag release on the gen 4, but the trigger on gen 3s seems objectively superior. gen 4 triggers have creep, gen 3 triggers do not have creep. i like the recoil spring on the gen3 because it is less complicated.
>>29875892
You're right the Gen 4 trigger does have some creep (though even my most broken in Gen 3 has some creep too), but this is one of the few cases where I actually don't mind. Maybe it's just personal preference for me. The creep on this trigger seems to dampen the force felt from the overtravel when the trigger breaks. I tried out a ZEV Fulcrum trigger and sent it back because, while the break was definitely more crisp, the overtravel was less pleasant, and took more work to keep the sights from moving when I broke the trigger.
>>29875967
ya i feel. gen 4 triggers are more than good enough.
>>29875321
It's the slide release for the competition models G34 & G35.
i tried these pistols this year a glock 19, CZ po7, walther p99, and a fns 9, after shooting them a lot the cz and the fn where out, the glock was fine but wasn't comfortable i ended up with the p99 because it felt way better than the glock and looks a lot better too.
>>29875446
>tfw still no modern steilhandgranate
>>29876110
10/10 blog post, I'll smash that like button and subscribe! And re-share it on my Google+ friend circle!
>>29876155
...the fuck?
>thread is about Glocks
>man replies saying his opinion on Glocks
>"hurr durr, stop blogging fuuuuggg"
>>29876225
>op wants to be informed about different generation glock models
>man with IQ of 10 year old states that he has little girl hands and that he thinks a walther is prettier, adding valuable information to the thread
>gets made fun of
ftfy
>>29875766
I make a point to thank people who answer questions with a real answer. So heres to you, bub.
>>29875766
ergonomics ≠ comfortability
>>29875864
no glock guide rod has ever broken or melted in the field, that being said the older model single spring is more simple by design and lighter weight
Walther ppq masterrace reporting
>>29877135
post a picture of it you piece of shit non-contributing fuck face
DID I HEAR GEN4?
>>29875587
What is in his picture, is in fact, a Glock 34, like he said, was in the picture.
Fucking idiot. Why would you even respond with such a fucking useless post?
>>29875494
Maybe using a heat gun to break down the surface of the plastic to melt pot hole texture everywhere makes it rigid when it should be flexible and is thus a bad thing.
>>29877229
Re read his post and then mine.
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he was asking if g19's and other models have the raised slide release as he thought it was a generation wide upgrade for gen 4's
