So I'm broke as fuck but I want a 5.56 AR what's the cheapest shittest AR there is for me to get
>>29860467
S&W sport, hue we don't need no dustcover or forward assist
>>29860473
How much they usually go for?
>>29860467
Buy a PSA stripped lower and a rifle kit. If you get a good daily deal you will be out less than $450.
>>29860497
Gun broker got it or do I got to go to cabelas or some shit
>>29860467
My area surplus LE Colts are going for $625
>>29860518
I'm in AZ where you at
>>29860516
Palmettostatearmory.com
>>29860497
http://palmettostatearmory.com/review/product/list/id/15199/
Is this what your talking about
>>29860602
Yup. It's all you need to finish a stripped milspec lower. You can get a solid aluminum one for $45 in the right place.
>>29860619
To milspec so I got to the fucker milled or but a lower that's already milled
>>29860632
Already milled. A lot of gunshops carry one from Anderson Manufacturing that's pretty decent.
>>29860467
Don't buy a cheap AR.
It won't be 100% reliable and you won't be able to consider it a "fighting rifle" so it will collect dust most of the time.
If you don't have another rifle to fill that role, you should save your money and buy a damn good AR-15 instead.
Psa is your best bet.
Ptac line is cheapest, will run you $450, will be absolutely a piece of shit (unlined barrel, out of spec parts)
Psa classic/freedom is pretty good. Lotta melonite or stainless steel barrels. $550
Premium is where it's at. Its at least milspec, good FN barrels and great bcg. $650
>>29860706
I don't want it for fighting I want it because I want one damn it and if hillary gets elected I would rather have something than nothing
>>29860722
Buy a Spike's Tactical, Knights Armament Corp (KAC), Bravo Company Machine (BCM), Danield Defense, Noveske, Stag, Colt, or at the very least a higher end DPMS offering.
Do not get the DPMS Oracle.
>>29860746
Aren't they all like 600-1000 dollars though
>>29860806
do it and not regret it
>>29860806
Oh and I think Bushmaster rifles are pretty good these days too.
>>29860815
I make 500 bucks every two weeks man lol can't really afford it lol buy it for me
>it's another poorfag wants to scrape at the bottom of the barrel because of 'panic' thread
Trump voters are literally white trash lower class scum and this thread further reenforces it.
>>29860978
Actually I'm not for ethier I don't vote I just like my second amendment
>>29860978
there goes the nevertrumpets
one thing is for sure, you nevertrumpers have made your hatred of your poorer fellow country men known. Do you think people will get behind your message if you take cheap shots at people who can't even defend themselves?
>>29861049
This. This is great you my good sir are the true MVP
>>29860746
Dpms
Dumb
People
Making
Shit
>>29860903
buy a psa kit and a cheap lower from a lgs
>>29860467
Just go on an aggregator website and pick something.
Example for $540:
http://www.ky(removethis)gunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=101177#.Vy0utWlOmSy
>>29860467
> I have no money
> I Want X luxury right now!
You enlisted at 18, drank away 50k in potential savings, got out and realized you dont know shit about real life right?
Dont spend money you dont have its so simple, save for a good AR or maybe stop being broke and save more
>>29860722
If you're getting it to avoid a future ban, then just buy a few stripped lowers. You can finish them off and sell them later.
Inb4 illegal because everything will be illegal anyway once hilldog rolls her fat white ass in
>>29861306
Ahahaha yeah man that's great advice for him stop being broke it's his second amendment dick and he's not looking for luxury he's looking for a cheap piece of shit as he said
>>29861327
I'm getting it for me basically not lookign to sell any thing just to have a 5.56
>>29861306
Nawww I got kicked out at 16 dropped out of high school got 2 jobs got married bought a house and now having my first child and with two jobs 500 bucks is my average of free money I have left after my pay checks and I want guns before my child's here so it can know how to operate one properly and safely
>>29860467
get a complete lower.
wait until you arent broke, buy better shit.
i can never understand the dept of retardedness that comes across this board.
>>29860497
I disagree
Call around and find an Anderson arms lower at an lgs somewhere. Max price:
>$59 max
Go to PSA, watch a few days, order cheapest build kit. Currently
>$389
The difference is you don't have to mess with a transfer and transfer fee
>>29861418
I kinda like that idea so I don't have to do all that shit with FFLs and everything
>>29861416
>i can never understand the dept of retardedness that comes across this board.
Majority of /k/ are 18 year old collegeboys with disposable income for the first time in their lives.
So they're bound to be the impulsive retards that they are and give into instant gratification because they're American and WANT IT NOW. NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW.
>>29861454
>I wasn't smart enough to live with my parents and go to community college for 2 years and have disposable income so now I shit talk 18 year old kids with better shit than me
NOW NOW NOW talk shit old fucker
>>29861454
Sounds like a complete college kid to me
>awww I got kicked out at 16 dropped out of high school got 2 jobs got married bought a house and now having my first child and with two jobs 500 bucks is my average of free money I have left after my pay checks and I want guns before my child's here so it can know how to operate one properly and safely
>>29860467
This is the cheapest I've seen, $523 before shipping:
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/dpms-oracle-semi-auto-rifle-223-rem-556-nato-16-lightweight-barrel-barrel-30-rounds-polymer-hand-guard-6-position-collapsible-polymer-stock-matte-black-finish-60531-884451002383.do
Del Ton and DPMS both make cheap as fuck ARs. Can't speak as to quality. I've never shot one, don't own one, and I don't know anyone that does.
>>29861487
U can get PSA prem for like 359 for the complete upper and pay 160 for a lower with 100000% better quality
>>29861502
I am liking that price and it's not to bad from the reviews I've been reading
>>29861526
best rifle for the price
you pay with your time but is it worth it
>>29860722
Not like this shit is getting any cheaper man. I'd put in the extra $150 now for a good PSA instead of ptac mystery meat unlined barrel bullshit. That's two days Pay, even for minimum wage jobs.
>>29860806
Those are all $700-$2000. He can make do on PSA, but PSA classic/freedom/premium, not otac, and just fucking nothing dpms. Fuck those guys.
Also, try the used market. Ar15 resale during non panic seasons pretty reasonable
I got pic related for $800 not bad for a bcm free floated with a pws rail and with a spikes lower.
>>29861587
Fron what I'm reading it kinda is
>>29860746
lol he is broke and wants an ar-15 and you link expensive as fuck companys
>>29860518
Where would that be?
>>29861633
Lol exactly
>>29860467
Radical firearms usually has complete rifles for around 500. I've had good luck with my upper so far. It's bare bones, but worth the money imo.
>>29861776
Post link
>>29860978
You'll get yours.
>>29861371
I got my GED at 16 myself, but money is too easy- Save 100 more. Hell, 50 more. Ask then if you NEED the AR. If yes, buy a nicer AR than you could before. If no, save a little more and repeat.
If you have a kid on the way I guarantee youre gonna be missing that money real quick. Your choice but id say start saving for your child.
>>29861331
yes, as he said hes broke and has a kid on the way. 500 dollars to be spent on an AR is a luxury in this context.
Just buy the lower, then buy parts as you save for em. No need to buy all of it at once.
>>29861801
https://www.slickguns.com/product/radical-firearms-ar-15-16-556-m4-17-complete-rifle-12-fgs-round-rail-52999?mobile=true
https://www.classicfirearms.com/radical-firearms-ar-15-fr16-556sp-15fgs-rifle
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/radical-firearms-ar15-5-56-rifle-detail.html?Itemid=0
Guess they're out of stock right now. They say they expect more though. If you're looking for a rifle now, almost every gunstore I've seen has m&p sport 2s. They're more expensive but don't have the ffl fee or shipping cost, and from what I've heard are really solid rifles.
Mid length PTAC rifle kit $379 + stripped lower $75
The end
http://defenderoutdoors.com/del-ton-dt-sport-lite-ar-15-semi-automatic-rifle-556-nato-16-lightweight-barrel-30-rounds-collapsible-stock
>$470
>decent bargain basement rifle
>lightweight
https://www.classicfirearms.com/eagle-arms-m15-ar15-rifle-by-armalite-223-wylde
>$520
>chambered in .223 wylde
>eagle arms is apparently a division of armalite, you know pretty much the original fucking AR-15 guys
>has the standard shit except rear sight/carry handle
>nothing but good reviews
Fucking get the armalite eagle god damnit and start loving freedom. Just remember that you'll have an AR15 and the vast majority of gun owners aren't gucci niggers that need a colt or daniel defense to sleep well at night. They'll be happy you have an AR15 that doesn't have one of those shitty railed gas blocks and you'll be able to get decent groupings according to how tight your pants are. Good luck OP
>>29862011
That was the plan
>>29862119
fuck midlength on a 16" barrel is fucking retarded and I hope a gang of niggers rape you to death
>>29862152
Literally zero malfunctions in 2500 rounds, what's the problem?
>>29860978
Eat a dick mudnigger.
>>29860473
http://palmettostatearmory.com/ptac-16-1-7-m4-rifle-kit.html
And then add a $40 lower
>>29862152
>fuck midlength on a 16" barrel is fucking retarded and I hope a gang of niggers rape you to death
It's literally THE optimal gas length
Carbine is for faggots
>>29860467
Why go for cheap/shitty when you can actually get really good AR-15 models for under $600? The three models featured on https://armalite.com/product-category/complete-firearms/eagle-arms/ are decent for the price and I've heard a lot of people love the high-end model which has an MSRP of $649.99 if you can believe it. IF I were to get an AR-15 I'd get that one and swap the trigger for the Echo-Trigger and then begin to tinker with new parts, etc. from there.
>>29860467
Buy and AK instead and you don't have to deal with these snowflake faggots.
>>29861487
I have Del-Tons. Their finish isn't as nice as more expensive ones, but I've had one of their base models fire 2k+ shots without a single problem. Only real difference I see is that tolerances are kinda weird in non-important areas. i.e. The charging handle is slightly wobbly (not sure if this is normal) and delta ring is TIGHT as fuck.
>>29862537
del-ton owner here again, I think slightly wobbly charging handles and tight rings are mostly normal, just never had to strip another AR before
>>29862472
how can you claim its not cheap/shitty when the barrel is plain chrome moly steel?
https://armalite.com/shop/eagle-15-mission-first-tactical/
no chromelining not even a halfassed melonite just a normal steel barrel
>>29862537
delta rings are usually hard to push down unless you mean the barrel nut
And charging handles can rattle, hence why they have a retaining lever
>>29862591
you can clearly see the barrel has a finish on it
>>29862512
AK is 7.62x39 not a fan of the round
>>29862591
>reading through FAQ to see what they use as a finish
>find this
>Shooting tracer or armor piercing ammunition, or shooting the rifle as fast as the trigger can be pulled can ruin the barrel in just a few hundred rounds.
Armalite confirmed for staffed by retards
>>29862648
its nothing
compare that description with the higher end model
https://armalite.com/shop/m-15-light-tactical-carbine/
>>29862687
>descriptions mean everything
4140 is not black, nigger
>>29862694
for fucks sake how hard is it to understand that "Barrel 16" chrome moly" and "Barrel
16" Chrome Lined / Chrome Moly, Threaded 1/2-28 Carbine gas system" are different?
nobody cares about the color
>>29862726
>nobody cares about the color
You are such a fucking idiot
What is making it black, dumbfuck?
>>29862753
why does it being black or not matter?
everyone knows a chrome moly barrel is the lowest tier of ar barrels its as basic bitch as it gets
>>29862790
>why does it being black or not matter?
Because it is a clear indicator of a finish you uneducated, misinformed, dumb motherfucker
Are ATI's any good?
>>29862859
when the hell did i claim that theres no finish?
it said its a chrome moly barrel without chrome lining
>>29860710
no OP, but would you evaluate my potential parts list? or anyone for that matter? i am still poking around at parts and whatnot.
PSA 16" Mid-length 5.56 NATO 1:7 Premium Upper - Without BCG or Charging Handle - 28087
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-mid-length-cmv-cl-stripped-upper-without-bcg-or-charging-handle.html
$300
Palmetto State Armory 5.56 Full Auto Nickel Boron BCG - 35479
http://palmettostatearmory.com/palmetto-state-armory-5-56-full-auto-nickel-boron-bcg.html
$130
PSA AR15/M16 7075 T6 Forged Mil-Spec Charging Handle - 24080
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar15-m16-7075-t6-forged-mil-spec-charging-handle-24080.html
$20
PSA AR-15 Complete Lower Magpul MOE Edition - Olive Drab Green, No Magazine - 46463
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar-15-complete-lower-magpul-moe-edition-olive-drab-green-no-magazine.html
$180
DANIEL DEFENSE - AR-15/M16 FIXED BACKUP REAR SIGHT
http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/sights/rear-sights/a1-5-rear-sight-sku100004457-27483-53793.aspx
$70
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after I throw it together, I will put a OD green MOE hand guard on the front to make it matching
>>29862899
right here, nigger
>>29862591
>plain
>inb4 backpedaling
>>29862902
Get a bolt from AIM
Cheaper
Cheaper charging handle on AIM
Why are you buying a complete lower
>>29862902
Ya I've been looking at them
>>29862902
>buying a complete upper to swap parts on
Are you retarded?
>>29862909
yes plain implying that its not chromelined, melonited,nitrided, stainless steel or any of the other usual barrel options
just a bog standard chrome moly barrel
would you prefer if i had said vanilla?
>>29862960
What's the finish then?
Because it can't be plain if it has a finish
>>29860467
Bravo Company upper + Palmetto or Anderson arms lower for 750 or Palmetto upper and palmetto lower for 600 lads
OP here
So I've been looking around and I think I'm gunna buy the kit and than get a lower for 60-100 dollars than build up from there
>>29862970
if you think you're trolling you should commit suicide, that anon was implying it was plain in the sense it wasn't chrome lined, he even went on as far to say no chromelining not even a halfassed melonite. you're a fucking sperg.
>>29862946
thanks for the tip, as far as the complete lower, i don't own an AR, and find it easier to take a gun apart and figure out how it is put together than have a pile of springs and shit that i have to figure out. don't mind spending a little more.
my question to you as an AR noob would be, other than price is there an advantage to buying a stripped lower and assembling myself?
>>29862959
>Are you retarded?
possibly. but swapping out a $30 hand guard at some point in the future is the only plan for that upper to be modified. doesn't seem that big a deal?
>>29863004
Why pay for BCM when you have cheaper better options?
>>29863022
who else does a good 14.5 pinned to 16.1 upper?
>>29863019
>samefagging
>say no chromelining not even a halfassed melonite
>halfassed melonite
>inb4 you post an edited picture
If you're going to samefag, use different words
>>29862970
god your a fucking idiot focusing on the finish doesnt change the fact that its not a good ar
like every complete factory gun at the 500-600 range its a basic bitch entry level gun which is cheap and shitty compared with higher priced offerings
if i had to guess its probably parkerized since thats the default or painted black
>>29863039
>acting like a retard
>thinking its good bait/trolling
>claiming same fag
>own 0 guns
Isn't a little late?
>>29863020
>figure out how it is put together than have a pile of springs and shit that i have to figure out
You will learn infinitely more using trial and error in building a gun
That and there's 9001 videos and how tos on the internet on doing it
>my question to you as an AR noob would be, other than price is there an advantage to buying a stripped lower and assembling myself?
You get what you want instead of paying for say a milspec trigger if you want something better, or a different stock or grip
Other than that it's price and what I stated above
>doesn't seem that big a deal?
I'm guessing he's saying that it's cheaper to put it together with the original part first instead of paying for parts you don't need
Building will always be cheaper than buying
>well not really
>PSA has screaming deals on kits
>>29860473
um, M&P Sports have both of those now. and have for awhile.
>>29860706
The M&P Sport is just fine. I personally don't have one. But i do know several people that do, and they work just fine.
>>29863033
1. who cares about 14.5? It gives no benefit in any category except to your autism and prevents you from ever being able to change brakes should you want to
2. carbine gas is trash
3. why buy a complete upper
>>29863077 can confirm this i own a bushmaster but have seen many people with m&p's and there's absolutely nothing wrong w/ them
>>29863087
I just need a rifle that I can use for home defense hike with without size and weight being a problem and that can easily fit in a small car
;_; pls no bully
>>29863055
>god your a fucking idiot focusing on the finish doesnt change the fact that its not a good ar
>good AR
>which is cheap and shitty compared with higher priced offerings
Yeah, you're right
My $1600 billet AR with PWS barrel is a hell of a lot better than some trash PSA or Armalite
That still has no bearing on the fact that you're wrong, can't back up your claims, and are generally shitposting about something you have no information on
Feel free to call them or find information stating what it IS finished with and call me a faggot when you do
>>29863108
The difference is 1.5"
it will be completely unnoticeable
Get a 16" midlength
Less recoil, less stress on the gun, arguably cleaner, doesn't leave a ton of barrel exposed for pointless reasons
If you want a small light gun, build a pistol or SBR
>>29863102
the m&p sports i've seen, have ran as great as my Adams Arm's through dirt and mud
>>29863070
>I'm guessing he's saying that it's cheaper to put it together with the original part first instead of paying for parts you don't need
i didn't see any options for buying a barreled upper with no hand guard, and i have no interest in putting the barrel on myself.
am i being stupid? is putting on the barrel easier than i think?
>>29860467
499 on a delton ar on classic firearms
i selected all the food items for this response dickhead
>>29863170
>>29860467
http://www.classicfirearms.com/dlt-dt-sport-ar-15-223-556-fde
get it now nig
>>29863133
I see
what are some good brands that you would recommend
>>29863113
fuck it im out no amount of arguing will fix your idiocy
all ive claimed is its not chrome lined which is true and that it is a cheap ar which is also true considering its msrp is 650 dollars
you seem to be fixated on the finish which doesnt fucking matter at all
it could parked duracoated or gold plated but wont change the fact its a cheap ar and not "really good"
any ar with a chrome moly barrel and no chromelining or higher equivalent isnt a "good" ar its just there
>>29863254
Calmn down bro
Dpms oracle on impactguns is 499
>>29863267
Still cheaper to buy the kit than buy the lower DPMS is shit get kit and build it much better than a orcal. However good price for it just shit gun DPMS is the hi points of rifles
>>29863161
>i didn't see any options for buying a barreled upper with no hand guard
pretty sure Aero or Brownells is selling exactly that right now
>I have no interest in putting the barrel on myself.
Faggot
>is putting on the barrel easier than i think?
Vice, receiver block, Barrel nut wrench, torque wrench
>insert block into upper
>insert upper in outer block
>insert block in vice
>Put thin layer of grease (dielectric is recommended, petroleum jelly works fine) on barrel extension
>slide into receiver
>slide barrel nut over barrel
>hand tighten
>put receiver wrench on
>torque to 30 lbs
>crank until it lines up with a hole, but don't exceed 90 lbs
Gas block is a different story
If you're a homosexual who likes A2 sights with flat top rails (god help your suffering soul) you'll have to have a gunsmith pin on the front sight or use a clamp on, but those aren't exactly secure when the front sight likes to act like a door hook.
If you want low pro gas block, it's just set screws
Brake is just a wrench and crush washer or spacers
handguard is however your special snowflake handguard installs
It's more satisfying to build it yourself and you can always sell the tools when you're done
>>29863324
oh and I should add, they make upper assembly tools that go into the back of the upper that are fucking slick as shit
if you're careful you don't even need a vice, but it takes fucking with to get done
>>29860467
Del-ton ARs pop up in the lower $400 occasionally.
>>29860903
>>29860806
>$500 biweekly
If you don't have $1000 to spend, then don't buy a rifle. If you don't have $400 to spend, then shouldn't buy a gun. With that said, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
>I'm not really into guns but I need jamal/habeeb is after me and I have no money
Hi Point .380 or 9mm and 50+ rounds of good defense ammo. NOTE: MOST 380 HOLLOWPOINTS SUCK HUGE ASS. 380 defense ammo generally costs more than 9mm.
gr = grain, an old unit of measurement roughly equivalent to 15.4 grams. Firearms are arguably the earliest widespread base for the scientific method, so ancient systems of measurement are commonplace.
for 380,
corbon 90gr JHP
federal premium hydra-shok 90gr JHP
fiocchi extrema 90gr XTP JHP
hornady custom 90gr XTP JHP
for 9mm,
124gr, 124gr +P, or 147gr +P
cor-bon, federal HST, federal hydra-shok, or speer gold dot
for 40sw/357sig,
get fucked do your own research
but pretty much any hst/hydrashok/gold dot should work fine
Poorfag threads suck to think about because it's essentially spreadsheets online.
sd9ve, tp9, hi points, cz 83, eaa sar, eaa witness, zastava m88, etc.
>>29863055
Stay mad, I bet you bought a 6920 too. Virtually *all* ARs in the $800 to $1400 range perform no better. You really need to get above $2k with good money in noveske/pws/etc barrels, a nice bolt carrier, a good 1-7 or preferred optic, etc. to have a "better" shooter.
A $500 AR will do pretty much everything a $2000 AR will do. Rifleman, not the rifle.
>>29863658
a grain is 1/7000th of an ounce
Nobody cares about euro measurments
>>29863324
>torque wrench
Barrel nut torque range is higher than the lower bound.
If you don't know what 30 to 80 lbs/ft feels like then you have bigger problems.
>>29863681
>Nobody cares about euro measurments
Wow. You could have put that nicer, like: there's a system used by most of the world, and there's a system used by people who have walked on the moon.
>>29863658
>A $500 AR will do pretty much everything a $2000 AR will do.
except longevity but most buyers of budget guns wont shoot enough ammo to notice
>>29863658
>Stay mad, I bet you bought a 6920 too. Virtually *all* ARs in the $800 to $1400 range perform no better.
Depends heavily on the barrel maker
see>>29863113
retail it's a $1600 gun, but I only paid about $1300 and that has a $300 upper and $200 handguard
So in reality if I put a $40 Anderson upper and $50 quad rail, I'd have a sub $900 gun that shoots sub .75 MOA
>>29860467
Used to be able to find good deals on Cuckbook. Those were the days.
>>29863710
>You could have put that nicer
I was going to call you out for being thin skinned and called you a newfag
I'm glad I read the rest of the post
>>29863714
entirely unfounded
>>29863324
thanks for the info, i capped it for future reference.
my goal for my first AR is not handbuilding (clearly) but getting good with iron sights on an AR platform. maybe my next one?
>>29863658
>Rifleman, not the rifle.
>my $75 no name barrel will shoot like a $300 PWS
Noguns: The Post, everyone
>>29863758
reddit.com/r/gundeals
bookmark it
>hurr plebbit
yep
there's no competition
>>29863769
>my $75 no name barrel will shoot like a $300 PWS
That's a weird thing to say since no one, myself included, in the entire thread said or implied anything of the sort.
>>29863758
>i capped it for future reference.
There's a guy around here who swears by seasoning your threads by tightening and loosening, but my gun shoots under 1 MOA and I torqued it straight down
It makes no practical difference on anodized 7071
>maybe my next one?
I personally think fixed front sights are gay and pointless when you can get flip ups that don't obscure your optic
With flip ups you can practice your iron sights and throw an optic on later and not have the sight in the way
It's entirely up to you, but just remember I'll always call you a fag for a fixed front sight with an optic
>>29863294
He specifically said shittest ar15
>>29860467
Daytona tactical sells whole kits for around 400 minus a lower. Then you just slap it all together.
>>29863796
>A $500 AR will do pretty much everything a $2000 AR will do. Rifleman, not the rifle.
yeah you did
$2000 ARs tend to come with better parts, noguns
Obviously BCM, Daniel Defense, and Larue are a fucking joke and entirely overpriced, but if you're too dumb to realize you're only paying for a name, you're the kind of idiot they pander to.
>inb4 a Larue fag defends his purchase
You could have build the same gun with a custom Krieger barrel and outshot it for half what you're dumbass paid
>>29863822
>shittiest AR-15
Oh, I got this one:
ATI Omni Hybrid
>>29863843
Is it the cheapest though
>>29863758
listen to >>29863817 and don't buy a fixed a2, My first ar-15 was a colt 6920 and I hated that FSB with a passion, it makes any upgrades you want to do a pain in the fucking ass
I ended up selling my colt (for what I paid for it btw, that is one plus to colt) and bought a rifle with all the goodies
>>29863842
>yeah you did
only if you ignore the second to last sentence which specifically mentions a good barrel?
Find a rope and string yourself up ASAP.
>>29863858
It's not only the cheapest, it's one of the only 0/10 unredeemably BAD ARs on the market today.
>>29863877
That's what am looking for
>>29863862
>>29863817
thanks for all the advice, srsly.
i kind of want to built a basic-bitch AR with iron only and then assemble another later with better shit, free-float, and optics. once i get good with irons. but i have to think about it more now.
>>29863877
>a nice bolt carrier, a good 1-7 or preferred optic, etc. to have a "better" shooter.
None of this is relevant
And my AR is 1:8 and shoots just fine and has a $90 AIM bolt carrier
Barrel and trigger are the only parts of an AR that actually have to be good
>>29863903
You can always swap parts on the one you have, just remember that if you build kind of what you want now with irons, you can always adapt later
Just trying to save you money, senpai
I'd go with an M&P 15 tbrqfhwyf they're like $650 tho
>>29863923
appreciate it. i want a couple eventually. i want to get the first soon, prior to any price...fluctuations. then when i am earning more cash later, build a much nicer rifle for optics and accuracy.
>>29863843
I got two buddies that have these and they paid 750 for them how are they cheap
>>29863907
>>my $75 no name barrel will shoot like a $300 PWS
So now we admit I said the barrel makes a difference? k den
>>29863936
https://www.slickguns.com/product/sw-mp-15-sport-ii-sa-556-16-301-6-pos-499991299-shipping-49999
>>29863953
>ati omni hybrid
>I got two buddies that have these and they paid 750
ahahahahahaha
>how are they cheap
because your buddies bought what is literally the worst factory AR on the market in 2016, and got ripped off by a gun store to the tune of $300 over retail to boot. Here are two random ones I found without even trying to find the cheapest:
http://grabagun.com/american-tactical-imports-omni-hybrid-maxx-limited-black-5-56-223-16-inch-30rd.html
https://www.classicfirearms.com/ati-omni-ar-15-hybrid-maxx-rifle-5-56-optic-ready
>>29863952
Iook up a video on how to remove the FSB, I think it will change your mind
>>29863953
Quality control aside, their parts are also cheap
750 maybe in a ban scare I hope...... that's insane
>>29864018
They got them like 6 months ago they bought them togather
>>29864080
You need to tell your friends to never ever go back to whomever ripped them off. Any LGS that knowingly sells shit products like that should be avoided like the plague, nevermind at actual cancer-tier prices. They're probably looking at 100% markup over dealer prices.
>>29863996
>Rifleman, not the rifle.
You cannot defend this statement
>>29864124
The dude was cool as shit gave them a free mag a sling with it.
>>29864152
40 bucks does not offset a 300 dollar ripoff lol
>>29864175
Ya I know I just sent them the link to it time to see how pissed they are
>>29864188
That gun store owner probably bought them straight from Classic and marked them up, bud
>>29864506
Lololol that's why I do my research lol
>>29860710
chf is fucking awesome
