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Why don't we just conquer Canada? I know it looks big
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Why don't we just conquer Canada?

I know it looks big but most of it is just empty land. And air power and logistics are kind of our thing anyway.

The vast majority of their population and infrastructure and tax base is just a short hop across the border. We could roll in there and occupy it all in like, 12 hours flat. There's nothing they could do about it.

Discuss this hypothetical American/Canadian war. The tactics, important strategic objectives, best weaponry for the job.

Canadians, what would you do about it in a guerilla resistance scenario? What does your Red Dawn plan involve? Protip: hiding in the frozen woods forever is not a plan.
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>>29841143
Why the fuck would you want to own canada?
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>>29841143
Why would you want to invade Canada? Their the toasty comfy hat that keeps America warm from the cold north.
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>>29841143
canada is already a u.s. territory. we just dont let them vote.
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>>29841143
I prefer benefiting from them economically without letting them vote.
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The maplemen are a polite and orderly people. I think when we take over they will bend the knee in short order.

I estimate that within a single generation the conquered territories could be fully integrated into the American empire. Maybe two at most before we grant them voting rights in Federal elections.

Except Quebec. They will speak American or they will burn.
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>>29841143
This late into the game, you don't fight countries that close to your own

Think of our history almost like a match of Sid meiers civ, but much more complex, and infinite options
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>>29841143
Fire one shot and Trudeau would surrender because it's current year and defending ones homeland is cultural appropriation to the invaders
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>>29841143
where do you lads come up with this shit?
if you decide to invade bring a fire extinguisher along please..you'll need it.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-wildfire-fortmcmurray-idUSKCN0XU2D8
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Canadian here from the Western Provinces.

I embrace our American overlords as opposed to our current Liberal Prime Minister who said pic related.
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>>29841143
>Implying the average Canadian would even resist
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>>29841281

And the Front de Liberation Quebecoise rises again...

Enjoy fighting guerrilla warfare against separatist assholes forever.
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>wanting to involuntarily adopt more angry alcoholic natives
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>>29841326
>>29841335
Honestly I would imagine a non effective peaceful 'weed lmao' protest instead of an insurgency. I would imagine the average Canadian would completely give up their hertage and assimilate to being American on one generation.
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>>29841368
>Canadian
>Heritage
mysides.gif
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>>29841143
Because our government is only slightly better than the liberal shithole that is the canadian political system.

We can't even work shit out at home.

Also canada is based, the only reason to invade would be to liberate them from their opressive gun laws. Otherwise they deserve full autonomy.

Largest unprotected border in the world m8o
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>>29841281
You know back in the late 70's early 80's there was talk of Quebec seceding and joining the U.S. to become Louisiana part deux.
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>>29841282
Found the turtling science/culture victory player.

Us conquest players have a different mindset. At this point in the game I'm usually consolidating, absorbing the minor civs still left on my continent and focusing on science and production to build up for the end game war.
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>>29841368
The way I see it, the majority of Canadians who actually have the gall and weaponry to resist would likely just accept American rule, as they tend to be right leaning gun advocates anyway. I would gladly take any American overlord over le weed man.
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>>29841454
This. I'm split between fuckit lets fight and this is beneficial to my causes.
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>>29841143
We'll take Alberta and BC, the rest can fuck right off.
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>>29841454
Honestly, most people around the world already confuse Canadians with being American. The non shit their Canadians should succeed and join the US and leave the weed Canadians in cuck world.
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>>29841143
>Why don't we just conquer Canada?

We do. Just gotta wait a few more years.
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>>29841216
This. Do you know how much of Canada above Edmonton is livable?

Nunavut
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>>29841454

>they tend to be right leaning gun advocates anyway. I would gladly take any American overlord over le weed man.

Confirmed for knowing nothing about Canadian politics. Our most left leaning party has is strongest base in working class and rural areas because of their pro-Union tendencies. The conservatives are mostly Western oil niggers and suburban WASP soccer moms. The liberals are mostly crippled transgender Syrian refugee otherkin that live in downtown Toronto. Conservatives just push loose gun laws because they want to try to split the NDP (socialist) base.
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>>29841485
what's left after it burns,m8t
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>>29841454
If America just like, invited you guys in, what would happen?

Like we do a constitutional convention or something and formally offer you statehood. Five new States or whatever, details can be negotiated you know what I mean.

Do you think there would be support for this? Would based Canadians want to be Americans? Would faggot Canadians throw molotovs?

Is Canadian nationalism even a thing? Would you be insulted or flattered?
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I'll grab some bullets and conquer them
BRB
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>>29841517
Goddamnit Carlos.
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>>29841143
Please do. What do we do with the antigun faggot provinces?
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>>29841281
Nah, Canadians would be innawoods, doing hit and runs in no time.

It would basically play out like it did in the Fallout series.
>US needs more resources/energy
>So does China...
>Canada has oil, uranium, energy to spare.
>US invades Canada to get resources, and to control territory against China
>Canadians are surprisingly resistant. Insurgency everywhere.
>Canadian rebels often found and executed, but more always crop up.
>US press gets hands on images/video of US troops executing Canadians.
>PR nightmare. People in the US are upset about poor treatment of neighbors, US troops in Canada demoralized by being forced to fight Canadians
>desertions
>protests
>bad times

But then war breaks out with China and mostly it seems like Canadians and US pull together briefly before world ends in nuclear fire.
My speculation on the working together is mainly based on all the american weapons drifting around the fallout games that have canadian insignias on them, or a certain unique rifle with an Ontario armoury stamp on it.

I for one would fight against US incursion. Probably go innawoods, maybe stay in the city and use my knowledge of it to go all saboteur on the invaders.
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>>29841539

It would be an unequivocal no. Canadian nationalism is a thing, and like 75% of it is based in not being American.
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>>29841143
THE ANNEXATION OF CANADA

Two days into assuming office, President Trump overhears a tour guide telling some kids that during the War of 1812 British soldiers primarily from Canada sacked the White House. Enraged at the fact that "Canada is laughing at us" he immediately declares war on Canada. In a matter of days, the whole of the 82nd is mobilized and airdropped in the major cities along the border as the main invasion force is prepared. The CN Tower is bombed just for the fuck of it.

In response to this blatant act of aggression, Justin Trudeau orders the CDF to completely stand down to avoid the unspeakable bloodshed and defeat of open conventional war with the US. Instead, the Prime Minister implements an innovative strategy for battling the American invaders: creating the hashtag #FreeCanada and getting it to trend on Twitter. #FreeCanada lasts roughly three days before getting shitposted to death. The former Prime Minister defiantly insists that this was the true way to win wars in CURRENT YEAR, all the way up to his death from exhaustion while being part of the prison labor building the Great America-Mexico Wall.

The initial attempts to start an insurgency are hobbled when former soldiers of the CDF discover that they get much nicer treatment when they're absorbed into the American military, and likewise the gun owners of Canada discover that most of the restrictions on their funz is now lifted. As a consequence, the majority of the the insurgent factions consist of college students primarily from the Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal areas.
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>>29841539
>Is Canadian nationalism even a thing?

No, until they're criticized by America. Most Canadians don't think of Americans as that different from themselves individually, but when they think of "AMERICA!" as a concept, they're pretty firmly against it.

So it's not so much pro-Canada nationalism as it is Pro "We're-not-the-US-please-stop-lumping-us-together" nationalism.
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>>29841577

If we invaded Canada, I'd work against my own government. Canada is our bro.
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>>29841539
Canada's entire political culture is based on not being America.

>decline to sign Declaration of Independence,

>Population swells from loyalists fleeing the US

>Write their constitution during US Civil War
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>>29841577
>Ontario armoury stamp on it.

It refers to Ontario California, not Canada.
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>>29841433
Ain't there some serious support for Québec secession nowadays too? They want to be their own country or just less federal interference? Do they want to join the Greatest Country on Earth or no?
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>>29841551
Welp I made it this far. So far I have come up on little resistance.
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>>29841580

Tbh for all the Trudeau jokes he's actually ramped up our commitment in Syria and Iraq, we just stopped flying combat missions. We still have special forces, advisers, reconnaissance aircraft, and logistics units there.

Also I can't find a source for all the "if you kill your enemies they win shit" aside from Fox News tier meme websites.
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>>29841619

Separatism comes in peaks and valleys. It got really bad in the 90s and early 2000s and now it's recently calmed down. It will probably flare up again but currently it's kinda seen as an old person thing in Quebec. Separatists today are like old Nazis in Germany in the 60s.
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>>29841580

The Canadian insurgents first attempt to drive out the American's by creating the hashtags #CanadianLiveMatter. It is shitposted to death after 6 hours. Further hashtag campaigns such as #Justice4Canada, #OccupationSoWhite, #CheckYourPrivlegeAmerica also meet with similar results. Impatient insurgent begin to splinter off and attempt more violent means such as throwing beer bottles at American convoys and pulling fire alarms at college speaking events with American guests.

The war and the occupation reaches its most violent point when a video is leaked showing an American soldier describing Tim Hortons as "Starbucks but for faggots." The ensuring riots kill 200 soldiers, 3,000 civilians, and temporarily overthrows the interim government in Calgary. The riots stop after the soldier on the tape apologizes and says "poutine's pretty cool I guess."
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>>29841580
Yesh.

Tell me more.

I need to know about the Kent State tier purging of these libtard insurgents.
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>>29841624
I need to stop in here and ask for directions. This is much easier than I thought.
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>>29841143
>I know it looks big but most of it is just empty

> tfw
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>>29841651
Canadians are weird. Not sure what's going on here but someone deserves to placed in Guantanamo.
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>this kills the American
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>>29841615
"Long Branch Arsenal, Toronto, Ontario"
You should probably do your research before posting.
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>>29841143
Probably because other nations and unions wont want to deal with us and want to wage war with us. have you not played any CIV games?
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Wonder how much Yankee scalps sell for?
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You could probably take the government down without major issues, but you'd be looking at Iraq 2.0 regarding the citizenry. There is very much a culture of pride at not being American. The Liberals were stomped into barely being considered an official party anymore back in 2011 because their candidate was considered too American, as he lived there. An act of war by the US would give all these people who own guns for hunting and pride themselves on not being Americans a reason to fight. You'd have people shooting your soldiers in the back every step of the way.
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>>29841671
Ran into some indigenous peoples. They didn't seem to be bothering anyone so I let them live.
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>>29841692

>playing as glorious Poland
>major rivals with my Dutch neighbours to the North
>filthy Mongol, Indian, and French scum to the South
>Dutch are the only power that can take me on
>fill all my border cities with nukes, cram waterways with aircraft carriers and missile cruisers
>invade my southern neighbours
>conquer southern part of the continent
>cross the ocean and invade the Shoshone and Russians on the continent to my south
>faggot Dutch bitch about me in UN
>bring in sanctions, no more trade, cut off from world
>adopt glorious Communism, start getting major happiness bonuses
>by this point my cities are so numerous that I can have half of them producing wealth to make up for total lack of trade
>still have enough industrial power to out-produce anybody else
>mfw no limp-wristed Dutch Capitalist pig dog can stop the glorious Polish Communist pain train
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>>29841697

>yfw Natives will stop being lazy for an opportunity to legally kill white people
>yfw they blanda up with the rest of Canada to create a modern warrior nation that rides around the Middle East taking ISIS scalps and eating their hearts
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>>29841578
two of the women that i work with are Canadian and the company has less than 50 employees so it would seem to me that with simple logic Canadians do like being American.
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>>29841584
So basically, Canadian nationalism is just contrarian hillbilly nonsense that could be subverted mutated and overridden with proper application propaganda, psyops and memetic warfare.

You'll self identify as Americans in 3 months flat after the invasion.
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>>29841812

>there are Canadians in America
>therefore Canadians like being American

American education.

>>29841859

Didnt America basically say the same thing about Vietnam, and Iraq, and Afghanistan?

>They want American freedom! This will be easy! They will totally see us as liberators guys!
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Please invade us and bring freedom. Kill Justin "Cuckmaster" Trudeau and liberate us. I want to own an AK
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>>29841645
Keked. This is beautiful anon.
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>America invades Canada
>Goes straight to fort McMurray for oil
>find nothing because nobody told them fort McMurray burned down yesterday
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>>29841143
Too much work for not enough reward. We'd have access to their natural resources, but we'd constantly be defending against Canadian insurgent attacks. In the end the cost of the war would outweigh the benefits.

Easier to just have a friendly relationship with them and have decent trade deals.
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>>29841645
Capped for posterity
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>>29842001
But one of the only things that America isn't #1 at yet is land area.

I know this sounds stupid but if you don't think Americans will take it seriously you don't know Americans. We're pretty easy going most of the time but when we get something stuck in our head we can get a little carried away sometimes.

I mean just look at what we did after 9/11. We spent trillions, invaded more than one country, some of which weren't even related to 9/11 at all. It didn't matter.

Manifest Destiny wasn't a fluke. It could happen again. Maybe some of us want it to.
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>>29841444
> end game war

US was clearly going for the economic victory option but that's starting to look a little shaky. Especially since CEO Nwabudike Obama Morgan's term ends this fall and it looks like Chairman Donald Yang may replace him (having just beaten Brother Ted Godwinson in the primaries).
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>>29842103
God I miss Alpha Centauri. Wish someone would make a modern version with the same mechanics. Spent 100s of hours on it.
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>>29842156
I know it's not the same cup of tea but for sci fi strategy, Stellaris looks fucking awesome.
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>>29841577
But the reason that it won't play out like fallout is that the Canadians are happy to sell the US as much oil, uranium, and moose parts as it wants. Their defense strategy is also integrated with the US's, so there is no motive to annex it to achieve more defensible borders.
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Nothing of worth is up there, and I don't want to integrate disgusting Canadians in our country.
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>>29841904
The difference is we had leftists and weak ass anti-imperialists running the country who were pussies as fuck.

If we did it right and fucking annexed and colonized them, they'd all be toast once their so called resistance movements are straight up mostly genocided until the survivors bend the knee and turn into American puppets.

Worked in the Phillipines.
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>>29842001
>but we'd constantly be defending against Canadian insurgent attacks.

No we wouldn't.

We know and even partially control the vast majority of their arms depots and we have a population of millions ready to begin colonization. Any canuck loyalists would quickly be outnumbered by angry American immigrant militias ala Ulster Defense Force and Maple would get removed quick.

And the rest would integrate rather quickly thanks to being mostly similiar and connected to American culture, in which case Canada becomes a productive 51st state.
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There would be 0 resistance. Really one armed American can take down Canada. The fuck those cucks gonna do?
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>>29842700
What is that pic supposed to be
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A
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>>29842882
A logging road in Canada.
R8 my car.
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FUCKING
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>>29842882
Looks like an '80's chevy pickup. Your welcome.
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>>29842939
DESIGNATED
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>>29841577


I see what you did there.
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Sometimes I wonder if our founding fathers' decision to rebel against the crown is really necessary. I mean, even if we didn't rebel, they would give us independence sooner or later, and they would laid a proper foundation for legislature and other political/socioeconomic frameworks instead of us trying to reinvent the wheel for about 100 years (and one civil war).

Bonus that integration with tree niggers and actual niggers (or rather, black) would be smoother, because instead of imported niggers from africa, the blacks came from either the caribbean or already a 3rd generation black and are more cultured, conservative and can actually read (which is a significant shit 300 years ago).
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>>29842939
LEAF
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>>29842977
Try hard
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>>29842633
Didn't the Americans hand over administration to the people who were running the rebellion in the Philippines?
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>>29841143
As a Canadian what would I do? I'd march side by side with my American brothers into parliament and hang that little shit Trudeau off of the peace tower
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>>29843019
Look at Commonwealth gun laws. Look at US gun laws.
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>>29842156
I didn't think I've played another game that had a BASIC enemy nearly as horrible as mind worms.
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>>29843019
Congratulations. This is singlehandedly the most ignorant post I have ever read on /k/
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>>29841143
tl;dr why would you want to own canadas problems

desu we're not worth conquering, because we already sell everything to the USA to more than a fair deal.

theres 0 reason to risk an insurgency and the political spending needed to bring canada to compliance
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>>29841717
Fuck off
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>>29841689
Long Beach Arsenal Ontario California.
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>>29843019
So anon, I know people have been throwing around pic related willy nilly as of lately. But I really think you deserve it. You da real mvp.
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>>29843046
Do you realize that this is literally unthinkable for Americans? Marching on Washington DC is literally a wet dream for many of us, but marching on behalf of another country? We literally can't even conceive of it. It's not even part of our vocabulary or mental space at all.

This I think, more than anything is what sets us apart. Even the most self hating commie gigantic faggots among us wouldn't even consider being ruled by another country. Hate and mistrust of the federals is traditional and patriotic. But traitors get the rope. No exceptions.

I like the Maplemen. I wouldn't mind if they joined us, adding a few more States.

But there is obviously a cultural problem here. If Canadians are so eager to roll over for foreign occupation, even one as awesome as USA, who else will they go belly up for? Are Canadacucks just millions of Benedict Arnolds? Will our Canadian subjects sabotage us? Can we trust them at all?
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>>29843019
Wow, you are dumb.
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they have MAPLE SYRUP CARTELS in canada
actually maybe they could take on the drug cartels
maybe they'd combine and you'd have high power heroine syrup
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>>29841143
As long as all the new states are bigger than Texas but smaller than Alaska ill be okay with this.
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>>29843219
Canada wasn't even fully independent until the 1960s and they've had one disastrous PM after another since then. I think they're just eager for the embrace of a stable republic. Hell, if the provinces told Ottawa to pound sand and applied for annexation as individual territories we'd welcome them with open arms.
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>>29841366

Pfffft.

Trail of Tears 2.0.

Enjoy the long walk to new mexico
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See the problem is the world loves us, and has a distaste of Americans

>US invades
>Entire world nopes
>US is literally bottlefucked by world
>US becomes part of Canada
>World economy enjoys amazing growth as impolite Americans are dragged to the nearest Tim Hortons for retraining
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>>29843251
>this is what syrupniggers actually believe
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>>29841143
>>29841143
>>29841143
nukes have pretty much nullified the age of imperialism anon. and culturally speaking, america already owns canada.
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>>29841143
couldn't we just annex them?
all the oilfield guys (read; those who keep canada from imploding) would gladly let us take over if we just killed trudeau and his cronies
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>>29842103
If God hadn't turned off culture victories we'd have won already.
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>>29843271
IIRC during the 90s we would have annexed all of the Canadian provinces except the Maritimes were a bunch of worthless welfare leeches so the deal fell apart.
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>>29843241
What the fuck was Canada doing before 1960? Was anything of importance whatsoever at all? Did nobody live there until colonization by American draft dodgers? Is Canada even a real thing?
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>>29843301
>What the fuck was Canada doing before 1960?
They were still technically a British colony.
>Was anything of importance whatsoever at all?
They did get into WWI before the US did so you had some crazy motherfuckers ride up north to join up. They regretted that decision nearly to a man.
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>>29843244
>gib natives gibmedats
>jk gbmedats is a forced relocation to a reservation
>tell them it's a casino reservation
>it's not a casino reservation
>iceniggers shipped off to the ass end of northern canada
>no one complains
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>>29843244
>Enjoy the long walk to new mexico
please don't make it worse here.
send them to texas or something.
fuck, the florida keys would be kinda neat.
or a sandbar.
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>>29843241
entered both world wars years before the amaricunts. constantly is ask to lead American troops into battle cus their hamplanet asses quiver when a force opposes them
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>>29843296
>Maritimes were a bunch of worthless welfare leeches
Nothing has changed.
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>>29841613
this is why we should annex them. Revenge for cucking out of the revolution, burning washington(after we burned toronto to the ground), and generally being "not americans" for the entirety of their boring history barring being bredy gud at killing in WWI and WWII. Also a final black eye to the Britbongs as canada disavows the rule of the queen.
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>>29843363
Nuh uh
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>>29841326
What if Hillary will win(I hope not)?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onGWF8mz1Zw
>I will never storm the Canadian capital alongside a cavalry of horsemen and bikers armed with US guns and pseudo-medieval weaponry, siege the parliament, brutalize Justin Trudeau, and hang his remains for all to see.
>And I don't even know him...
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>>29841577
>Canada has oil, uranium, energy to spare.
And is open for economic penetration from the US, dunno how it looks like for the Chinese.
That's why nobody ever seriously thought of invading it.
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>go inawoods for a bit
>dig some tunnels
>set some traps
>tap some trees for dat sap
>wait a few seasons building up large vats of maple syrup
>smother my self in said maple syrup to hide my self from thermal imaging and shit
>start shooting occupation forces from the forest with my crossbow
>when I'm finally cornered I'll play my bagpipes for the last time as I set off my self destruct perimeter defenses
>tfw I've become a maple syrup god
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Listen canadians are great and all.

Love them as neighbors, but i wouldnt want to live with them.

A. Aboot. Molson beer.

The border exists for a reason.
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>>29843258
>Don't interfere with my fantasy!
Oil kike, please
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>>29841978
KEK
but shit went south real fast in the last 48 hours
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>>29843383
pls prove wrong you cuck
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>>29843477
>canada
>militarily relevant
leave
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>>29843412
It's "eh" you mongrel. And here in good ol' Sask we say about just like you guys. I went down to Texas and stayed in a gated community outside of Austin, and they sounded exactly like me, except they said "y'all" once every so often.
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>>29843477
No.
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Canada would be more left wing than california
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>>29843385
Trump is going to bury her. Have no fear
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>>29843495
>amaricunts
>combat effective
KEK
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>invade Canada
>Canada's entire 73 CF18 fighter jet force gets hosed down in two days
>Canada's entire fleet of 33 boats gets sunk in a few hours
>22800 active troops.... 13700 reserves
>years of arresting drug addicts could not have trained the RCMP for this so they trip over themselves and ask for more funding
>gun owners are 95% durr hunting fudds who would rather hide and camp innawoods than shoot something that shoots back at them
>US takes over Canada faster than you can say Iraqi Freedom
>make Canada 51st state
>federal government shifts left
>less guns, more gibmedats
>higher taxes, lower USD value
>housing rises 1,000,000% due to the yellow jew
>summer hits, Canada is on fire again and requires more funding for dem programs
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All you faggots are going about this wrong.
>Dismantle both the Canadian and U.S. Federal governments.
>Form a loose confederacy between the provinces and states named "The Atlantian Federation". >Dominate the world.
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>>29841619
>less federal interference
>join the U.S. Government

Pick one.
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Americans say they could take Canada. Can't even take a single fucking province of mud huts in Afghanistan. Get fucked merica.
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>>29841613
That's only applies to Ontario and BC though, for some reason both those provinces love to spew NOT AMERICAN all the time.
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>>29841281
>They will speak American
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>>29844641
Confirmed for not understanding why the middle east is so resistant to being taken control of.
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>>29841619
It died down the moment it was revealed they wanted to be independent but also retain;

>Canadian currency
>Military bases + equipment + the soldiers
>all federal government property + employee's
>access to the Ontario power grid

They essentially wanted to move out from home, but still have mommy & daddy pay for everything.
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>>29844018
Only if we work together to destroy Commiefornia for the greater good.
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>>29844742
Why the fuck did we need access to any other powergrid than our own?

Our hydroelectric systems is basically the only non-shit thing in this province
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>>29844830
Selling the power. As for the soldiers, I doubt the Van Doos would magically want to go live in English Ontario after a victory of the "Yes". I think they would actually try to take the country for themselves, especially if the government is a bunch of leftist (think QS) fags.
As for the planes and ships, France's erection would pierce steel cause they'd have a potential client for the Rafale and their ships.
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>>29845417
The Van Drunks wouldn't have any equipment considering the CF would take it all back. And just where would Quebec even base their fleet? Hudson bay?
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>>29843401
>That's why nobody ever seriously thought of invading it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red
Well, not recently anyways.
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>>29842633

The French and Japanese had literally just been thrown out of Vietnam after trying to do exactly that. What makes you so sure you'd be able to do it?
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>>29843219

Idk where these Yankees are pulling shit out of their ass, but we would certainly not just role over. Most of our national identity is based on not being Americans. Most of Ireland's national identity is based on not being English, and look how hard they fought.
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>>29843241

Actually we were fully independent with the statute of Westminster in 1931, our constitution was ratified in 1982, I have no idea where the fuck you are getting the 60s from.
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>>29844739

Confirmed for understanding that insurgencies are basically unbeatable. If insurgents in Yugoslavia could drive the fucking Nazis out of their country, and Afghans can take on both superpowers and still win, I'm pretty sure Canada can handle a bunch of hamplanet Americans who can't go ten feet without stopping to eat.
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>>29845437
Sept-ÃŽles would make a great dockyard.
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Tbh fighting back against American occupation would be incredibly easy. Canadians look like Americans, sound like Americans, but vehemently don't want to be Americans. A Canadian to have fake US documents, enter the US, and move around freely without suspicion blowing shit up, going on shooting rampages, etc.
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>>29842087
>>29842087
Preach, brother.

There's 39,000 sq miles of farmland in Iraq that is on par with Iowa yields without any special management.

Apply industrial applications and you could triple the area of tillable soil beyond just around the Tigris and Euphrates. With proper land management, we could reclaim the deserts into pre Mongol invasion greenlands.

Am I the only one that wants to rename the BIA to the bureau of Islamic affairs, and put these fuckers on reservations instead of giving them the freedom to continually make war against us?

Kurdistan can have the fucking oil, Amerikistan will feed southwest Asia and Eastern Africa, while defending Europe from barbarism.

We need another frontier to develop.
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>>29841326
Lispy fucking faggot. We can't let Hillary win the election or the faggotry of our two nations might combine in to European levels.
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>>29845652
>Tbh fighting back against American occupation would be incredibly easy

Delusion: the post
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>>29844757
They wouldn't need that much effort.

Buncha no guns with relatively large police forces, assuming active feds or military stay out.

Arizona could probably solo California.
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>>29845652
But you have no identity to rally around.

Plus since you are a socialist western power we would just sieze all of your canadian id databases which we ALREADY have access to because Crime,

and then we just lock any former canadian into reeducation camps and take away their children to be raised American without any knowledge of their Maple parentage.

Boom done, looks like being a buncha leftists almost-noguns backfired huh.
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>>29841143
Come and try fuckers, we'll be waiting in the hills.
If you guys thought trying to sift through civvies versus combatants in Vietnam and the Sandbox was hard, just wait until you're doing it with fellow whites.
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>>29845707

>But you have no identity to rally around.

M8 entire nations have sprung up overnight with apparently no identity to rally around. Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine. These countries were created overnight by decolonization with no previous national identity and almost immediately built one out of nothing. We've been building ours for over a hundred years now, and a big part of it is based on not being American. If you think that we don't at least perceive ourselves as separate then you don't know very much about us.
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>>29845707
Most Canadians sense of identity comes from a smug sense of superiority over Americans. Its fucking pitiful, but its true. Not sure how many people would actively resist occupation, but exceedingly few people would be okay with it.
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>>29845844
>hiding in the hills
How bad you want some JDAM rammed up your ass? If you're not hiding in with civilians or in infrastructure you can go ahead and relocate your limbs to the corners of your room now.
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>>29845880

A lot of it is social engineering. Just look at the bullshit PSA's and shit the CBC put out.
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>>29841143
Because there's no point.
Let them keep being Canada and keeping our head warm.
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>>29841143
Because why the fuck would we? Even if there was a valid reason it would still just be a dick move that would piss off the rest of the world and cause a bunch of issues.

It would be like if in a family of 6 one brother just decided it would be fun to beat the ever living shit out of that younger brother who is chill and just does his own thing. All your brothers and sisters would be like wtf anon, mom would be pissed, dad would be pissed, that brother would never speak to you again, family gatherings would be awkward as hell and uncles and cousins and grandparents all whisper about the incident where you just went nuts and beat the fuck out of poor canada.

Like seriously and for what? Bragging rights? Like no shit we could do it, why do you think canada is so close to us geographically and culturally. They want to be our buddy guy.
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>>29845881
spending 25K+ for one guy...
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>>29845669
Bend over for muhammed. :^)
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>>29844757
Sadly I was born a Commiefornian. And like General Lee, I may not agree with their policies but I would stick with my home.
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>>29846184
Hell, army will spend twice that on a patch of trees that they took indirect fire from.
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>>>/pol/
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>>29841335
Pls liberate us I want good fun laws and freedom save us burgerbro.
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>>29846609
Move to US. Vote with us, help make guns the norm again.
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>>29841454
>4
amerifat delusion
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>>29846642
>>29846609

Or he could stay here and vote for good fun laws and also not have to do with Ameriburgers asking if they are being detained.
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>>29843181
Only if you watch. POAST MOAR!
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>>29841143

>Calgary and Vancouver not labeled on the map
>Fucking Iqaluit though
Th-thanks.
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>>29846945
It's labeling capitals you nerd
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>>29841551
>>29841624
>>29841651
>>29841671
>>29841717
Thank you
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>>29846673
your country is on fire
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>>29841551
>>29841624
>>29841651
>>29841671
>>29841717

I never knew that you live so close to the Canadian border.
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>implying the invasion/occupation force wouldn't be raped by snowmobile/dogsled guerilla warfare when winter hits

We own guns too, you know, and most of us like not being part of America.
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>>29847086

It's just Alberta. Nothing of value will be lost, once they're all dead we can take their oil and not have to worry about the Torries getting elected ever again.
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Fucking try it retard, remember a year ago and they was light snow on the east coast and all the school were shut down? Imagine 10ft high snow drifts, and thats in April. Fucking amerifags fuck off.
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>>29841393
yeah, can't forget your fur trapper french arcadian ancestors
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>>29841471
This. As much as I would enjoy the freedoms that would come with being American, I am just too damn happy with being Canadian to be an American. I mean, I don't know why, but I love this country

>tfw I've beaten Jehova's witnesses for comments they made about Canadian veterans, and the way they disregard remembrance day

You'll be left to rot between the maple trees, m8.
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>>29841471
yo you can just help the americans and be a traitor to the maple leaf
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>>29847129

Which also means our guns will be confiscated within the next decade or two. Going back to the original point, we need to be liberated.
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>>29847226

Chill out there Ezra Levant, nobody besides that crazy senator is proposing any gun grabbing, and nobody takes that bitch seriously.
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>>29847250

Yet.
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>>29841629
that's from that mouthbreathing faggot guy who says mean things to people and thinks it's clever.
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>>29843205
You're fucking dense, I hope you know it
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>>29847250

Obviously you don't go from 0 to 100 in the blink of an eye. But you're deluded if you don't think Trudeau, let alone the NDP and the increasingly popular Greens, aspire to total confiscation.
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>>29847259

The guy who joked about the deaths of Canadian soldiers or something?
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>>29847258

There isn't any political will do tighten our laws though. Mass shootings are exceedingly rare, gun crime rates are extremely low, etc. There is just no justification for it, guns are basically a non issue in Canada and everybody appears happy with the status quo.
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>>29847097
>>29847067
>>29846807
Fuck off same fag no one likes you or your trump gun.
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>>29847293

Ever take a peek at newspapers? Even just their websites? Have you ever actually listened to the discussions on bills even remotely related to firearms?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0KYnpeZVnQ
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>>29847283

That doesn't make any sense m8, there is literally no reason to tighten our current gun laws and the liberals haven't really expressed any interest in doing so. Not to mention that it would actually hurt them politically since plenty of rural went liberal, mine included. They would lose much of that support if they were to start changing our laws for no apparent reason.
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>>29845582
Didn't Ireland literally just vote to remain a part of the UK?
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>>29845634
that's because there is nothing to invade in afghanistan. it's fucking mountains. you can take kabul, and keep it, but how the fuck do you take Waziristan? you don't. there's nothing to take. it's like occupying Nunavut. what are you invading exactly? We could invade toronto or vancouver or montreal but then what?
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>>29843495
>What is JTF-2
>What is CSOR
>What is Presidential Unit Citation
>What is Bush chose JTF2 over ST6 and CAG

You're a nigger and should be ashamed
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>>29847320

Remember your words when the CFAC is transformed into a political organ, and we lose paperless ATTs.
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>>29847320
>and the liberals haven't really expressed any interest in doing so.

READ THEIR FUCKING PARTY PLATFORM. THE SHIT THEY ACTUALLY GOT ELECTED WITH.

They don't fucking care about your status quo.. You know how much more difficult it is to remove those draconian laws than it is to enact them? They can go roughshod over us and half the country will clap.
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>>29847332

A) The Republic of Ireland has been an independent country since the 20s

B) Northern Ireland wasn't pacified until about 30 years of bloodshed had run their course and many of the IRA's demands were actually met.
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>>29845679
>What is Vietnam
>What is Iraq
>What is Afghanistan

Please tell me more
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>>29847347

M8 most of their platform has to do with firearm dealers and police programs to get illegal guns off the streets. The only one that actually affects average gun owners is the part about bringing back permits to move restricted and prohibited guns.
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>>29847363
Proxy wars where the guerrillas were funded and trained by a superpower.
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>>29847389
>Iraq
>Afghanistan
>Proxy wars

5/10 made me reply
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>>29847389

And do you really think that Russia and China wouldn't be all over a chance to piss off and hinder the U.S. in any way possible?
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>>29841143
With Mr. Limpwrist in office, I for one, welcome our new eagle overlords! No resistance plan, just service to the North American Empire!
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>>29847429

>calls Trudeau a cuck
>literally roles over in submission to a foreign invasion
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>>29847377
>Increase costs of ownership
>Increase paperwork
>Backdoor registration

And the prohibition of all handguns and all semi-auto's has been part of the LPC's talking points for ages.

I don't fucking trust them and you're a fool if you do.
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>>29841393
I always though Canada and America were relatively the same in heritage, and it's why we are similar countries today
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>>29847451

M8 semi auto's aren't even on that list. Semi auto long guns are non-restricted, which are completely overlooked by this platform.
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>>29841676
>This kills the American
FTFY
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>>29847449
please stop, I'LL GIVE YOU MY FAMILY IF YOU STOP!
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>>29845437
Gaspé bay
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>>29847128
Why
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>>29846945
>>29847001
>St. John's done in black
>Edmonton done in white
What fucking retard did that? If I didn't know where Edmonton was I'd never have guessed that's what it was.
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>>29847342
>to include representatives from Women's Groups
Fucking why? Do all women have insight into guns that men can't gain?
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Annex Western Canada. Nuke the East. Manitoba will be the buffer zone for the nuclear blast.

Everyone wins.
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>>29847832

So that the government use domestic violence as a lever for a total salt weapons ban.

>>29847857

>Manitoba will be the buffer zone for the nuclear blast.
All of the fallout will drift east towards Europe, so no need.
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>annex Canada
>millions of new lefty voters mean a permanent Democrat supermajority in government.

No thank you.
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>>29843543
>wants to discredit American military
>posts a war that we won

I thought Canada had a good educational system.
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>>29847890
This. It would be like annexing 10 new Californias.
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>>29847957

The total population is roughly 1 California, though it wouldn't entirely be democrat votes.
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I live in: Iles de la madelaine, Québec


Come get memuthafucka :(
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>>29848023
Still too many. And not all of CA is democrat either
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>>29848064

Holy shit dude.
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>>29841326
Western canuck here. I hate trudeau as much as the average retard, but this is a serious reduction of something he said. Basically he was talking about not wanting to war with isis because war is what isis wants, that's the whole point of inspiring terror.

Guy's dumb enough as it is, we don't need to lie to show it. Also please annex me burgerfriends, just don't kick down my door without shouting "FREEDOM" first so I know not to shoot you.
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>>29845881
>Implying the US cares about collateral damage
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>>29848157
he's right about that though. ISIS is an invention by the CIA and Mossad to keep the world in a perpetual state of fear and continue to grow funding for military contracts.
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>>29848023
you're right, there'd be socialists too.
And each state carved out would get 2 senators eventually.
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>>29848064
Pire place en ville
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>>29847311
Nobody likes your .22
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>>29843078
>implying
Commonwealth fag here from PR. You just wait, we'll get our firearm laws back into Federal Minimum once we deal with our corrupt bullshit government
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>>29841326
I'm lmao'ing at your life
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>>29842700
>The fuck those cucks gonna do?

Bring out the hockey sticks. I expect the US to surrender unconditionally within he day.
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>>29841645
>Two days later Canadians realise that they forgot that yankees are just about the only group of people that might be as insufferable as the Quebeqois. The ensuing mass riots and revolt comes to be remembered by the US Armed Forces as worse than Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq together and make a shambles of any future attempts at integration.
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>>29845870
>>29845880
Well thats actually my point, that your national identity and 'smugness' is just a way of making yourselves happier or more proud which is fine.

But if you are suddenly displaced and SHOT by angry pro-American colonists who are forming paramilitary units to specifically target said 'proud canadians' then the benefits of being more smug then an occupation force would drop dramatically vs surviving and trying to fit in the new status quo and not getting purged or reeducated.

And unfortunately for most, Canadians don't have an easily defined racial base to form natural ethno-nationalist enclaves like successful insurgencies that normally do base their core continengencies off particularly large ethnic groups with regional priorities.
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>>29849156

Letting the Israelis annex them would probably be in the best interests of Palestinians. Acquiescing to American rule and allowing democracy to take shape almost certainly would have benefitted the Iraqis more than resistance. How did that turn out? Palestine is actually a good example, before about the 1960s there wasn't really a Palestinian national identity, but only 50 years later it's extremely strong. With Canada we already see ourselves as firmly distinct from Americans, even if we aren't actually all that different. Nationalism isn't rational m8, it isn't based on facts and logic, quite the opposite actually. It's based on raw feelings and myths, and it's generally strengthened through conflict. Canadians have enough national mythology and "heroic past" from hacking a nation out of the wilderness, 1812, the taming of the West, the World Wars, etc to rally nationalist sentiment and convince people to resist.
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>>29849270
>>29849156

TLDR: How different we actually are is completely beside the point. However Canadians see themselves as different, and because of that they won't allow themselves to be occupied by a power they see as foreign.
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>>29848425
That's the second time you posted that picture thinking its me lol.
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>>29848567
Just for you faggot. Stop making all alaskans seem like cancer.

Pic related my glorious head of hair.
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>>29841281
I am Canadian and sadly I do think that a lot of the people in the position to fight would not choose to. Canada, at least federally, is pretty much anti-violence and independence now.
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>>29841308
yea pretty much
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>>29841326

Canadian here from the eastern provinces.

I agree. I hope to one day get American citizenship one day, but if we could just cut the shit and assimilate into America, that would be pretty cool boi.
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>>29849612

So you're telling me that you want worse government corruption, more corporate control of government, worse crime rates, worse quality of life, lower levels of happiness, more expensive healthcare (or none), and worse education just because you don't like our current meme spouting PM?
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>>29841454
this
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>>29849289
>>29849270
Actually if Palestinians and Iraqis did embrace Israel or democracy instead of sticking with their tribal-region alliances they'd probably be waaaay better off.

Because while your examples clearly shows that nationalism is irrational, they also inavertenly show the cost of sticking with said natioanlism, which in the case of Iraq is a fragmented and self destructing 3rd world nation that's reduced itself to a puppet of foreign powers and has lost millions of its people to war and hundreds of billions if not trillions of resources exploited from its land in the last decades, while the Palestinians have lost everything barring Gaza and are literally getting encroached on by Israeli settlements designed to do what western powers no longer have the balls to do, gradually encircle and crush the Palestinian land to expand their own loyalist base.

It isn't a matter of what the Canadians will 'allow' to happen to them, its a matter of how far America wants to push or settle for. IE if they simply wish to pillage your lands for endless resources while marginalizing any resistance, or if they straight up want to Manifest Destiny 2.0 straight up to the Arctic Circle and extinguish all Canadian culture and holdhouts with near-genocidal intolerance to set up the next American Empire and the home for hundreds of millions of future American colonists. Either way millions of Canadians are killed if they and America wins

Of course this is all moot because America likes Canada and we aren't gonna invade duh.
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>>29841143
> "we"

I don't think serbia has the military capability friend. Though it would be fun.
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>>29841143
Most Canadians I know wouldn't really be bothered being merged with the US, I mean the main reason it wasn't really offered yet is that Canada is still under the Queen, at least formally. Only issue would be Quebec, because they just wanna be Quebec.

Question is, why would you want to? Alaska already covers all the main areas of economic and strategic significance. Of course if it was about looting, that would be different, (and Quebec would just go merde and wave white flags) but considering how many people see their Canadian counterparts as bros, this would probably lead to revolts and fuck up the US more than Canada. That and the rest of the world would sever cooperation with the US.
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>>29841143
what is ww1.
what is the canadian forces becoming allied shock troops.

>assuming america wouldnt get BTFO if the canucks were fighting on their home territory
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>>29850222
CCCCHECKEM
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>>29849993

Well you just said it m8, this applies to any country. You can either go full 19th century Belgian Congo brutality or you can lose, because an insurgency can't be beaten unless you are willing to go to extreme lengths.

It doesn't matter what country you are dealing with, unless they actively want to be annexed like Austria in WW2, and Canadians definitely don't want that.
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Canuck here

I wouldnt care if america annexed us. Thing is, why would they WANT to? Yeah, it strengthens their claim on the north west passage and any resources that are discovered, but realistically they get first dibs on it anyway, and since canada is an open market, american firms will have just as much right to bid on any projects as canadian ones... Sure, you miss out on the taxed income from the projects, but you also dodge the TRILLIONS of legacy costs from angry ornery incompetent indians who will never stop being parasites on the nation.

Canada is like a little mom and pop company thats next to some giant mega corporation... Yeah, its profitable and its super lucky it got the location it did, but its not pulling near enough cash to warrant the mega corporation to see it as worth doing a takeover... Especially when like 10% of its profits are dedicated to taking care of that one meth head who refuses to actually work(and keeps burning down his own house)
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>>29850590
That's one of the most brilliant descriptions of Canada I've ever read.
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>>29850590
>pop
You mean soda right?
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>>29850222
Actually this...
I was gonna post about Canadians not having the numbers to fight back, but this guy's trips got me thinking...
1) Canadians are pretty docile, but historically they go apeshit when roused. See both world wars, JTF2, the CCIS incedents, and every Canadian riot.
2) if it turned into an insurgency, fighting americans would give them HUGE advantages. If they restricted Canadian access to guns, it would add to their numbers from all the Canadian gun owners, and if we granted access to guns as an integration tactic, we would be literally supplying them with the means to fight.
3) also in case of insurgency, ISIS was bad enough, imagine if the insurgents looked like us, acted like us, spoke (mostly) like us, and shared a COLLOSSAL undefendable border with us. It would be a NIGHTMARE identifying threats, and they could get in soooo damn easily.

It could be pretty bad... really depends on how riled up they get. If we time it during a stretch where they are unhappy with their leaders, like now, it would probably go well, but timed wrong, it has the potential to be a disaster.
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>>29841454
>>29841471
>a few canadians with shitty 5 round capacity weapons fight back by going innawoods
>American forces prepare ambushes at all Tim Hortons after the rest if the country folds overnight
>innawoods rebels get hungry, tired, cold, and bored when they realize the American forces don't care about them
>succumb to weakness and go to Tim Hortons for some delicious iced coffee and donuts
>get shrekt by the Americans
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>>29850590
>Thing is, why would they WANT to?
To annex the Unibroue brewery.

>>29850680
>in case of insurgency, ISIS was bad enough, imagine if the insurgents looked like us, acted like us, spoke (mostly) like us, and shared a COLLOSSAL undefendable border with us. It would be a NIGHTMARE identifying threats, and they could get in soooo damn easily
So would civil unrest in Burgerland, and for the same reasons.
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>>29850720

We can get high capacity mags m80 they're just pinned to 5 with a single rivet that you could pull out with a pair of pliers.
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I'd actually prefer to be American desu
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>>29841143
Because their our boo, pose no threat, and what would be the point?

Gain maple syrup?
Gain thousands of miles of land covered in ice?

bruh have you been to alaska?
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