Can we have a WW2 naval thread?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFQsK48uEgY
haha time to post Kongou
Feel like dumping, pick a nation and ship class.
Kongou-class
>>29839512
Bismarck class, Germany
>>29839512
>>29839537
Also anything on the Scharnhorst
Kongou
>dess
Kongou
>dess
>>29839548
more gifs like this plz
>>29839537
Name a more /k/ incident
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orze%C5%82_incident
>>29839569
didnt even know poland had subs in wwii
>>29839537
>>29839549
And that's all I've got on the Bismark and Scharnhorst classes.
What's next?
>>29839707
English battleships
>>29839707
Britain, King George V class
>>29839560
only one I got sorry.
It is pretty awesome though
>>29839640
They borrowed a lot of British ships and subs.
>>29839712
no such thing.
>>29839712
>>29839717
let's just combine these, I have quite a few but only around 3 of the King George V
>>29839734
>(you)
>>29839560
HMS Barham magazine exploding after she was torpedoed by a German sub
>>29839769
From a Luftwaffe perspective a few months later, after most of the home fleet went to Scapa Flow, they were looking for HMS Hood in the same river, dropped the first bombs on the UK mainland.
>>29839548
interestingly enough that is not the Iowa, rather it is the
>>29839819
>darn auto upload
it is actually the New Jersey shelling off the coast of Korea during the Korean War
>>29839512
>>29839707
Yamato, Japan
>>29839836
I will once I am done with dumping the British battleships
>>29839819
>>29839835
Good to know, thanks
>>29839891
no problem
HMS Formidable after a kamikaze attack, armoured flight deck took the blow,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsinkable_Sam
>>29839836
all I have are these three pictures sadly
>>29840206
North Carolina class please.
>>29840212
here you are
>>29839836
>>29840227
>Here lies Hotel Yamato
>she never scored.
>>29840260
lel
Comfy bread
>>29840227
top bantz
>>29839562
Nice battleship you have there fritz, be a shame if something happened to it
>>29839888
>>29839900
>Hood
>battleship
>>29840448
it would be considered a fast battleship
>>29840457
It was a battlecruiser.
>>29840467
I know, but it's easy to call it a battleship or a fast battleship
>>29840448
>>29840457
I would consider it a battlecruiser, but I accidentally listed it as a battleship
>>29840464
FUCK that puts things in perspective
>>29840502
not really, they're all tiny little manlet nips
>>29840517
good god BBs are fat ships.
>>29840517
sister ship
>>29840526
pls no bully
>>29840526
Only the IJN ones.
USN ships all had to fit through the panama canal
>>29840521
wow it's really cool how the secondary batteries can fire forward, I didn't know they could.
>>29840625
I like how those turrets look
>>29840652
lol this one looks goofy
>>29840212
I love me some USS Washington.
Thanks for the new images to all those who posted stuff I didn't have yet.
Any more requests?
Lots of the little belligerents had submarines.
>>29841455
Well yeah just look at this.
But this makes me question what constitutes as a submarine.
Finnish submarine Vesikko.
Daily reminder that despite anglo shitposting, the Bismarck was the best battleship in the time of its service.
Dutch submarine O19; the first sub in the world equipped with a snorkel device.
>>29841527
lol the king george V would have fucked it up
>>29841742
Nice meme. KGV was shit. Bismarck was the best ship in the Atlantic, by far. Hence by the Brits were so scared of it.
>>29841753
Like many thing about Germany during the war: Having the best quality means nothing if you cannot support it with quantity.
And the two engagements Bismarck was in she took damage that was fairly crippling. In the Denmark Strait the Prince of Wales put one through Bismarck's bow causing flooding and fuel leaks. And during her final battle, Bismarck very quickly lost her fire control centers, main batteries, and had suffered a penetration to the Admiral's Bridge that killed many officers.
>>29841810
The eternal anglo never fails to shitpost.
In Denmark Straight, the PoW took serious damage and fled, scoring only a minor hit on the Bismarck. The PoW took a 15" shell that didn't explode - if it did, the PoW would have sunk.
The KGV was supported by multiple ships, including other BBs, vs a lone and crippled Bismarck.
The Bismarck had better displacement, better armor protection, better guns, better gunnery. Oh, and KGV was slower. Worse armor, worse guns, worse gunnery, worse speed, worse displacement, lmao. Not to mention jamming guns and cramped turrets.
If the KGV class was so strong, the Bismarck wouldn't have terrified the Royal Navy.
>>29841870
Oh god you're back.
Bismarck was subpar and germany lost the war, get over it.
Don't make me call the RAF on you.
>>29841753
>>29841810
the british was afraid of the bismarck going out into the open sea and messing up the Atlantic shipping.
With a top speed of 30 knots, the bismarck was capable of outrunning KGV and most of the older dreadnought in the Royal Navy. It was also capable of winning against most of the older battlecruiser as well.
Keeping Bismarck in the north sea was the easiest way of catching bismarck instead trying to hunt it down in the Atlantic.
Even if Bismarck managed to reach one of the french port, eventually it would have been hunted down by a battlecruiser pack, land based figther, british carrier, or even the USN at the end.
>>29841905
Couldn't outrun or outgun Swordfish though.
lol, get fucked /pol/e-smoker
>fighting a POW with shipyard personal STILL ON BOARD with NO SHAKEDOWN and 50% output
LOL
>>29839512
Yorktown-Class.
>>29841905
>>29841917
/k/ is such a fucking shit board. If you say something historically accurate, even if it's "pro" German, suddenly it's a /pol/ boogeyman.
Fucking dumbasses.
Bismarck > KGV, objectively
Get fucked dumb fucks
>>29841967
>bismark sent running for its life by a non-operational KGV
keep dreaming
>>29841967
No. When you use shit memes that are exclusive to /pol/, you betray yourself regardless of whatever factual base your argument has.
The only engagement between a KGV class and Bismarck class of ships ended up with the unfinished POW causing more damage to the Bismarck. In a battle where Bismarck had the advantage and the support of Prinz Eugen. You claim Germany gunnery was superior but they didn't even arm the shell they were firing or used defective ammo (>>29841870)
KEK I can already hear the fucking germanboos furiousy typing out how the bismark was ordered to turn tail
YEAH idiot ordered for it's own sake after failing to damage a non-commissioned KGV
>>29840554
What a pretty ship.
>>29839512
UK, Flower class
>>29842002
Tell me what "meme" I used, you stupid fucking anglo faggot. The KGV is an objectively bad battleship class, easily outclassed by the Bismarck.
I actually feel sorry for your dumb ass.
>>29842124
Hint:
Everybody notices your anglo jihad.
Go make some scat porn, Hans.
Admiral Donitz did nothing wrong.
>>29841967
>get fucked dumb fuck
>>29842124
>stupid anglo faggot
lmao i cannot comprehend how much of a sperg you look like, a /pol/cuck autist at that
>>29839512
US, Alaska class
Here are some pics my grandpa and his best friend took while aboard the USS Cowpens (CVL 25)
>>29842980
Sorry for bad quality. Just took a picture of the pictures
>>29842991
>>29839569
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_E11
I think this can compete, but it is WW1. It is still very interesting.
>>29843146
>on the night of 20 August, E11's first officer, Lieutenant Guy D'Oyly-Hughes, swam ashore and blew up a section of the Constantinople–Baghdad railway line
truly a /k/ommando
>>29841870
>The Bismarck had better displacement, better armor protection, better guns, better gunnery.
What does it even mean to have "better" displacement?
Bismarck's armor protection was not better than the KGV, neither in quantity nor in quality. Bismarck's belt = 320 mm, KGV belt = 370 mm. Bismarck's deck = 100-120mm, KGV deck = 127-150mm. The only place where the Bismarck had a quantity advantage was turret armor, but its turret armor scheme was notoriously shit as evidence by how quickly it got a turret knocked out.
Bismarck had 8 x 15 inch guns. KGV had 10 x 14 inch guns. Not much of a difference.
Speed difference of a couple of knots, which is meaningless other than in some hypothetical 1 v 1 fight Bismarck would be able avoid engagement.
>If the KGV class was so strong, the Bismarck wouldn't have terrified the Royal Navy.
Royal Navy was not terrified of the Bismarck. There is a wide gap between being completely unconcerned and terrified. The RN was somewhere in the middle.
>>29841962
Sadly I am lacking in WWII carrier pictures.
>>29842094
While I do know the Flower class, I do not have any pictures of it.
>>29842658
Only have two. One pictured with the USS Missouri and the other is the USS Guam.
>>29839408
Will naval warfare ever again look this magnificent?
>>29845468
No.
>>29845486
The world has moved on.
>>29845328
>Only have two. One pictured with the USS Missouri and the other is the USS Guam.
What do you mean, "only"? Alaska and Guam were the only ones that were ever commissioned.
>>29845468
Nope naval warfare is obsolete :*(
>>29845962
I meant I only have two pictures of either of those two ships.
>>29845332
>>29845372
>>29845441
>>29845461
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>>29845475
Thank you for these! Now I have a few more pictures!
>>29839931
>nelsol
why didn't all-front main battery battleships get more popular?
Nelson was an attempt at doing it, Dunkerque and Richelieu did it seriously but other than that no other battleship-building nation tried this out.
I mean we know that Nelson had its problems because of it, but French didn't have them. Then you have British using main battery setup that screams WW1 on Vanguard.
So what was the problem with all-front main battery?
>>29848235
Because treaty limitations really. The Washington naval treaty really influenced ship design. The thinking was basically 'well if we're going forward towards the enemy, we're a smaller target and we can also broadside just fine; and if they're running away and we're chasing we can bring all our guns to bear on them!'
The obvious problem is that you occasionally need to shoot behind you.
>>29848235
Because battleships were fucking dead by then?
>>29848305
After Nelson and Dunkerque were made, the following classes were designed and built:
>North Carolina
>Richelieu
>Iowa
>King George V
>Bismarck
>Littoro
>Yamato
>Vanguard
Only one of them followed the idea.
Meanwhile there were also:
>Montana
>H39
>Lion
and probably something Japanese which I don't remember.
That were designed(at least up to some point) but not built. None of them used the setup.
That's plenty of different battleships(I'm not counting Soviets because I know little about their development).
Was firing behind you such a big deal as >>29848278 says?
>>29848375
>Was firing behind you such a big deal as >>29848278 says?
Yes, because you aren't just sailing in a straight line all the time.
>>29848235
Because its entire purpose was a weight saving measure to keep in accordance with the Washington Naval Treaty. With all of the guns forward, you can make the ship shorter. It also allows you to make a smaller armored box (citadel) because instead of extending from turret #1 all the way back to turret #4, it just has to cover the turrets in the front and the machinery spaces directly behind them.
>>29848375
The All forward armament layout was purely a work around for the Washington treaty
Nelson was meant to be a 2 fore 2 aft pre-treaty
all of those others you list where in violation of the treaty once open war was declared,
Bismark's tonnage was lied about to hide it until hostilities started
The Japs Built their cruisers with triple smal turrets, but made them replacable with twin 8 inch turrets once for when the treaty was broken, those triple turrets where used as secondaries for the Yamato.
As for if it's a thing to shoot behind you, Consider: Could the Bismark have escaped if it was an all fore design? or by the time they Unmasked the turrets would Hood have closed the gap?
>>29848375
Just to provide info, the Japanese had the A-150 design (Super Yamato) in the works for whatever that amounts to.