you ready for it boys ?
>abcnews.go.com/US/connecticut-state-legislature-passes-gun-control-bill-aimed/story?id=38846693
For those that dont want to click
Hes coming for your guns if you beat your wife.
>Under the legislation, suspects would have 24 hours after being accused to surrender all firearms.
>The bill, which was approved last week in the House, would require court hearings within seven days and if judges decide against extending the orders, weapons would be returned within five days later. Currently, court hearings are held 14 days later.
>no mention about same sex domestic violence
ugh
> punishment after accusation, not conviction
Isn't that like, unconstitutional or something?
>>29834553
its not a punishment, its a safety precaution since wife beaters have mental issues
>>29834563
No, it's a punishment. You're having your property confiscated under threat of more punishment, without having been convicted of anything, only accused.
>>29834563
So do their women.
>>29834563
>I suspect you of beating your wife
>gibe guns nao plz
> oh, you didn't beat your wife?
>Sorry for stealing from you anon, it was a saftey measure
> let me just catalog all these and marr the finish and I'll get them back to you lickity split!
>>29834576
> accused of murder
> allowed to stay out of prison while awaiting trial
thats not how checks and balances work anon.
>>29834563
Inoccent until proven guilty, gaylord.
What's to stop me from saying I saw you beating your husband and tell them to come take your guns?
American Justice is supposed to work on DUE PROCESS
>>29834543
Fake and gay
>>29834643
>What's to stop me from saying I saw you beating your husband and tell them to come take your guns?
them showing up to the front door and him saying you're a lying faggot. then you get sent to jail and ass raped for intent to file a false police report. they dont just show up and take your guns. they need reasonable doubt
>>29834681
No they don't. That's not how it works.
Have you never heard of Swatting?
>>29834563
Yes. Wife beaters DO have mental issues. Convicted wife beaters. People who have gone through a trial and have been found guilty of domestic abuse have mental problems.
A person who is merely accused of something might be totally innocent.
>b-but you'll get them right back!!
If I accused you of drunk driving and cops showed up and without giving you any tests or providing any evidence forced you to turn in your car would you be happy? What if they wanted ALL your cars? What if you just so happened to have a Lamborghini or McLaren and you had to store them at some shit backlot until you were proven innocent?
Under this law you would have to surrender all firearms, on an ACCUSATION of guilt. What if you had thirty firearms? What if you had a radically rare firearm?
Also, such a law would set a bad precedent. Its brilliant because police don't need to come into your house and seize your property sidestepping that pesky 4th amendment. You have to turn them in willingly. Accused of 1337 hacking or child porn? Please turn in all electronic devices for a week or two. Accused of money laundering? Let us hold onto your jewelry for a couple weeks.
>>29834681
You have no idea what how abused the legal system is, do you?
False charges are used very frequently to fuck people over because of the amount of damage that can be done before charges are cleared
>>29834543
Jesus you can play nogunz bingo in the first page.
> sandy hook
> muh fragile wimminz
> commonsense
> Democratic legislature
> FREE SPACE!
It really bothers me that people are comfortable with revoking rights based on suspicion, especially considering how most domestic violence models are heavily biased toward arresting men.
>>29834701
wanna post some proof. everyone is so quick to jump to worst case fantasy scenario as what will happen 100% of the time. treat your women right and this wont even be an issue
>>29834762
>Treat your women right and this won't even be an issue
So, I take it you've never dated a crazy bitch.
>>29834592
> he doesnt know how bail works
The State needs a compelling reason to remand you to custody without the opportunity for bail.
Also that's not even what the fuck checks and balances are.
>>29834777
>sticking your dick in crazy
This isn't even a meme, you just do not fucking interact with nutso people if you can avoid it and its not hard to figure out who is crazy in this day and age.
Though you are right, the system is abused.
>>29834592
>Checks and balances
>>29834802
There are plenty of 'closet crazy' chicks out there. I was dating this blonde for about a year and she was fairly bubbly, but never struck me as being a nutso. Not only was she cheating on me, but she threatened to tell the police I was beating her if I broke up with her over it. Luckily I was smart enough to record a few of our conversations, and she fucked off without any further drama.
Thats just a very broad summary of the crazy shit she pulled, but I would never have seen it coming.
>>29834792
you trade in money to be set free. in this case you trade in your guns to be set free
Can't people just get an habeas corpus against this confiscating?
Dont worry guys, women will never abuse this law, women are by nature delicate little flowers who only have the best intentions.
even if she did lie to get your guns taken away its probably because her womens intuition told her you were a danger, men dont know their own feelings and need a woman to tell them.
maybe you werent paying enough attention to her either?
>>29834900
/pol/ plz go
>>29834592
They also need probable cause, unlike with domestic abuse, where in the case of males, it's always assumed the cause is probable by default.
>>29834543
>flies in the face of presumptive innocence
I hope you have some based judges ready to nuke this thing
>Beating someone, even wives, is a felony.
>Felons can't own guns
>wife beaters lose funs when they become felons
Why does this need a special bill
>>29834919
>if you dont place women a mile high golden pedestal you are an antisemetic racist sexist nazi!
top kek enjoy losing your guns, job, money, freedom, and anal virginity when your wife gets her kids to say you hit them.
In a just world this faggot would be swinging from a tree branch
>>29834802
Crazy can be some of the most fun and sweet things to put your dick in, you just gotta figure out what kind of crazy.
>>29834931
Actually, with domestic abuse, you don't even need a conviction, you just need to be arrested for it to have your rights taken.
>>29834919
Try to come up with an argument, child
>>29834681
>domestic abuse calls
>reasonable doubt
Lets just not all jump to the worst conclusion and shoot this down before it has a chance. Every new idea has its downsides and they only survive if the upsides outweigh them. As of to date this law has not been abused so it has a perfect record. Im sure lying bitches will be punished for their scheming ways if found guilty of wasting the courts time and its partially the guys fault for hooking up with one to begin with. Dont put all the blame on the crazy bitch for being crazy
>>29834762
>treat your women right and this wont even be an issue
Nigger, people have been charged with domestic abuse for defending themselves against their spouse, or even taking their car keys so they don't get behind the wheel when drunk.
It's a radically abusable law.
>>29835081
>Every new idea has its downsides and they only survive if the upsides outweigh them
You don't know shit on US law, lots of really bad laws are older than your grandpa.
>Im sure lying bitches will be punished for their scheming ways if found guilty of wasting the courts time and its partially the guys fault for hooking up with one to begin with.
>implying courts don't habitually side with the woman in most cases
Have you ever been in a court case? Have you seen, or even read any?
>>29834592
>doesnt know what bail is
>>29835081
Look up how women never get charged after false rape allegations even when they are proven to be liars, the judges say they don't want to discourage other women from coming forward and that is exactly how this will work.
See the matters girl case in Colombia or any other, even after the girl is proven to be lying about it the man is still believed to be a rapist and their lives are destroyed before they have a chance to defend themselves, which is what will happen now. The mattress girls thesis was based on her dealing with the after affects of a rape she made up and nothing will be done about it, nothing will be done about this law being abused because that would be sexist
Open your eyes
>>29835123
>Have you ever been in a court case? Have you seen, or even read any?
Not that fag but I did see a false rape case where the judge let the woman walk without any repercussions, even after lying to the jury. So, yes I'm inclined to believe the "justice" system is biased and custody awards show that.
>>29835196
that 1 case ruined you to the justice system? Not OJ getting away with murder because shitty prosecution
>>29835183
you're cherry picking though with an extremely minute amount of instances. Every law out there can be abused. Worst case scenario here is that you dont have your gun for a week while you find out your girlfriend doesnt wanna be with you.
You're asking me to open my eyes to a brown grain of sand on a pristine white beach that runs for miles
> cars can explode
> air bags can fail
> breaks can fail
all these things happen yet you still jump into a car. This law has not been abused to date yet you wanna go against it based on something that COULD happen. Literally nothing changes as far as false rape allegations and the damages it does to the guy other then he doesnt have a gun for a short while. This doesnt make the damage done to the guy any worse so your point is almost moot but i argue its spirit
>>29834549
Thank God I'm still safe then
>sorry, I lost them in a tragic boating accident right before I beat my wife
>>29834762
my ex wife filed a protective order against me when she found out I was dating someone new, and then dragged it out in court as long as she could just to be a bitch. false accusations happen all. the. time.
>>29834543
Why don't they just send the wifebeaters to prison/jail?
>>29835449
>women
>>29835331
Not something that COULD happen, it's something that has happened a lot, woman gets angry and tries to get back at man my pressing false charges. That shit happens constantly
>>29834762
A girl I know had a 3some with 2 guys at a Halloween party at uni and later regretted it, so she filed a rape claim. 6 months later charges were cleared as even the girl's own friends turned on her calling her out on her bullshit. Didn't alleviate the fact that both guys were expelled from university while she got 20 hours of community service for filing a false police report.
Neighbor got suspicious of his wife so he hired a private eye who discovered she was cheating on him. He immediately dumps her ass to the curb and the court grants him full custody. She was miffed to say the least, and after a heated argument she went to her vehicle, beat herself up, and then filed a police report for assault. If she was smart enough to take off her own jewellery before doing it it might have stuck
When one of the co-owners bought out the company I work for from the previous owner, his wife immediately filed for divorce, with the intention of taking his half of the company. She attempted to get domestic abuse and harassment charges pressed but nothing worked because all of her "evidence" was self-fabricated (ie. Sending threatening letters to herself, buying a used phone off of Facebook and then using to to make threatening calls to herself, etc). She got reamed in divorce court over her shenanigans at least
>>29834856
>Turn in X amount of money to be free
>Or don't turn in money and don't be free
Compared to
>Turn in ALL guns to be free (And likely never see them again)
>Or don't turn in guns to not be free and lose guns anyways
>>29834543
California is currently attempting to expand this shit to the point where the accuser doesn't even need to know more than your name and that you're a gun owner in order to get your weapon confiscated.
>medical professionals
>coworkers and colleagues
>education professionals
>friends
>family
etc. I'm probably forgetting something. But they just knock on your door and take your shit without the semblance of due process. You have to go to court, probably incur legal expenses in order to ensure an anti-gun judge doesn't just fuck you because he can, and be completely defenseless in the mean while.
Just waiting for someone to be forcibly disarmed based on an unfounded accusation and then attacked by dindus once they know the accused can't fight back. I'd love to see the state defend that in a massive lawsuit.
>>29835183
>Look up how women never get charged after false rape allegations even when they are proven to be liars
Actually, I've begun to see cases where women filing false rape accusations get charged and jailed for it, one from Britain even, so I hope it starts setting some precedent.
>>29834681
>the state still has to prove that you intentionally filed a false police report
>the state has no interest in doing this because it will not only expose how truly frail and wrong this bill is, but it will also "discourage" other people from filing reports
>>29834762
Are you retarded? You want to know why the police have a hard time believing police reports regarding domestic violence and sexual assault/rape? Because they're often demonstrably false claims that are originally used as weapons by spiteful women who know that no one is going to come after them for the false police report.
>mfw reading this thread and we have retards like
>>29834563
>>29834592
and finally >>29834698
You guys have no idea how the legal system works and I am convinced you're underage.
>>29834802
>thinks that crazy is something that you always see immediately
>thinks crafty crazy bitches are incapable of concealing their power levels
>is unaware that said crafty crazy bitches like to wait until they've successfully integrated themselves into your life and would be difficult to remove before they go batshit
Want to know how we can tell that you don't know what you're talking about?
>>29834837
>>29835721
Great, now I'm paranoid that I can't dodge the stealth crazies.
>>29835759
Just train your ass and hip muscles a lot and convince yourself that you can powerfuck the crazy out of her.
It's better for your peace of mind.
>>29834543
>after being accused
>guilty until proven innocent
It begins
>>29835331
There are countless indecents of false rape claims going unpunished, its very hard for a someone's reputation to recover from the allegation because its always guilty until proven innocent then you are still guilty but you got away with it
>>29834576
You can pull out a temporary restraining order on almost anyone at any time. Just need a police report and then you can cry about possible gun related violence from the other party.
Cops will them show up at the guys front door and take his guns/ammo.
This is extremely common and is not just limited to domestic disputes or violence. I have seen it happen quite a few times and it is extremely difficult for the person to get their guns back from the city/county/state short of a judge's order to have the guns returned.
>>29835662
Sauce? It should also be obvious we are focusing on the US right now
>>29834563
>>29834592
>>29834681
You have to be 18 to post on 4chan
>>29834802
A few weeks ago, I woke up to a woman who was sweet and funny the night before, cutting my arms and wrists with a box cutter and giggling. No warning, no signs, straight up Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde. (I should get a medal for not crushing her eyesocket with my forearm, but you don't get credit for not doing something that is the wrong thing to do.) She sprinted out the door while I was calling the cops.
Thank fucking balls she didn't look through my nightstand drawer. I would definitely be dead.
>>29834543
Is there no penalty for false accusation or requirement to make one? Because if not, fetch me a phone book, Connecticut is about to become the first gun-free state.
>>29836163
I recall the case he's mentioning. She only wound up getting charged because the guy exonerated himself with video evidence proving he was on the other side of the country at the time and because she had already done this multiple times to multiple men.
>>29835081
>and its partially the guys fault for hooking up with one to begin with.
>The man should have know, some of the blame is on them.
Stop Posting.
>>29837283
You didn't demand another blowie?
>>29834553
Martial laws is near Connecticucks
>>29838400
Her blowjob technique was kissing the tip and just downstrokes with her hand. Thinking back, that should have been a clear sign of bad things to come. You shouldn't have to explain to someone blowski theory.
>The point isn't to try to get me off now. Drown my dick in your saliva for lubricating purposes. No, I don't mean just spit on it. Go down on it further so you start producing the preferable thicker saliva from the back of your mouth.
>>29838732
>Her blowjob technique was kissing the tip and just downstrokes with her hand.
Holy shit, you should have dumped her for that alone.
>>29834762
OK, here it goes, all you guys piss yourselves over this stuff and scream feminism and Jews and whatever else, but did you ever since think that maybe YOU should hold yourself to a higher standard? I'm not even talking about abuse, I'm saying no cheating, no fucking around with your partner, and most importantly- only engaging in relationships with women who aren't pieces of shit. Seems like all the arguments go back to "my friend had a crazy gf that sent him to jail on fake rape claims". So maybe don't go near shit people.
Or, alternatively, don't date at all. If there is really some gay Jewish feminism conspiracy, then just don't engage in relationships. Jerk off, buy guns, work, repeat. Don't give into the conspiracy and keep your mouth shut in public unless you have a legitimate reason to open it. Then there's no reason for anyone to cry rape or abuse. You keep on trucking while the rest of the world goes into martial law and planet nbiru decimates all of us.
>>29834589
>looks like they were lost somehow
>here is check for current value assessed by our departmental cpa
>enjoy your $200 sonny
>>29835331
You're a statist little cuck boy, aren't you?
>>29834837
>record a few of our conversations
Yes. If you are having trouble with your SO, use the recording app on your smartphone.
>>29835331
It certainly isn't as common as redpill assholes want it to be, however it isn't entirely unheard of for bitter exes and SOs to file false charges as petty revenge.
It is also true that the courts corruptly favor women.
>>29835759
you cant. thats the point. just dont make any life decisions based on a girl and dont ever put yourself in a position where you cant remove a female from your life
>>29838766
>tfw this is in many ways prudent advice but also likely to breed out the love of freedom in not too many generations
I dunno lad
>>29839403
it would be be good advice if it wasnt running on the assumption that people intentionally get into relationships with shit people or that these things cant happen from just sleeping with a female.
>>29834543
> live in house with crazy bitch
> bitch attacks you
> call cops to remove crazy bitch
> cops take your guns because they're in the same house with the crazy bitch
Goddamn, I am glad I live in Texas. Holy shit.
>>29838745
Whoever was the victim of her first blowjob must have been a timid faggot who didn't want to correct her out of fear. I made sure to cut her off as soon as I realized that that was all she was going to do. Proper blowjob technique lessons would have started the next day, but obviously never got around to that.
Now I gotta wear long sleeve shirts for a month because I look like a cutter. God damn you, Allison.
So where's the class-action lawsuit? All I hear is impotent indignant bullshit.
>>29834543
This law is akin to the "for the children" antigun meme. "If you're against this law, you're IN FAVOR of domestic violence." Debaters, is that what they call a forced choice or false equivalence?
>>29838766
That's what I do.
I only dated girls who were doing good in college, had a stable lifestyle, and shared my lack of familiarity with relationships, I avoided unnecessary kissing and sex, and when my wife and I started getting serious I made sure to be completely open, not hide anything etc.
I'm doing pretty good too.
>>29838766
There is truth here.
I fucked up and married a Californian bitch the first time because I got her pregnant. I could go into the details of what happened for the next decade, but if you don't already get that shit then there really is no explaining it to you. Suffice it to say, shit was awful.
We divorced, I retained my sanity by the barest of fucking threads and I remarried to a wonderful woman. Six years on, everything is great. The difference?
I MARRIED A SANE WOMAN WHO I LOVE BECAUSE SHE IS GOOD TO ME AND WE ARE A GOOD COUPLE.
So, I developed some rules for you young gents just now. Rules that, if you value your freedom and sanity, you will follow.
> 1: Thall shalt not stick thine cock unprotected into a woman you do not intend to marry nor shalt you trust a woman's birth control, for bitches be trapping men.
> 2: Thall shalt not marry the first piece of ass you score, no matter how hot.
> 3: Thall shalt not marry a woman from nor live in a gungrabber state, not for money nor pussy nor anything else.
> 4: Thall shalt not marry a woman from nor live in an urbanized area.
> 5: Thall shalt not marry a woman who hails from liberal roots, for the fruit does not fall far from the tree to begin with and occasionally rolls uphill to the stump.
> 6: Thall shall not marry a woman who neither fishes nor hunts. For those who do not are secret liberals even though they know it not.
> 7: Thall shalt not strike a woman, not out of anger or self defense, for the forces of equality will never see a woman as equal to a man.
> 8: Thall shalt raise good children whom thou shall taketh innawoods fishing and hunting and shooting in a safe and enjoyable manner.
> 9: Thall shalt respect thine family unless they become liberal antifun cocksuckers, at which point thall shalt quietly disown them.
> 10: Thall shalt not suffer the Feminist. Not her presence nor her word shall be tolerated for the woman who needs an ethos to explain her worth is of no worth at all.
>>29834543
And this is why I'm unmarried and spill my seed in the belly of whores.
Thanks government for forcing me to brek christian values.
>>29834777
This is why homosexuality is on the rise.
Hell, I'm almost considering going gay after Tobuscus, Mathew Santiro and others are being roasted on Drama Alert by angry ex girlfriends.
>>29839727
> be me, in college
> have been friends with girl literally since age 3
> said girl is no shit model-tier hot
> no, really.... she did some modeling
> have loved her for 18 years
> finally we hook up, I lose my virginity to her and I think we're going to take it farther
> two months later....... "Oh, Anon. You're my best friend but I'm moving to Austin to go to college. This won't work out"
> spend an entire week drunk in a darkened room with a couple cartons of cigarettes and a shotgun
> eventually recover, get my shit together and go about my life
> she never calls me, I never call her and it's over
> one day a year ago I get this phone call.... it's Her
> mind you, I'm 40 years old married to a woman much younger and better looking than Her
> the first words out of this bitch's mouth are "Where did we go wrong?"
> We? We? WE didn't go wrong. I would have laid down in front of a tank for you. I would have suffered for you. WE didn't go wrong. YOU went wrong. And now here you are, 250 lbs and divorced and crazier than ever crawling back to ME? Here. I'm adding you to my FB account. I'm going to let you browse my page for exactly24 hours so you can see how great my life is before I block you back to oblivion where you belong, you fucking psychopath.
>>29834802
Hey, I married a chick who never told me she had mental problems because she kept it in check with pills but stopped taking them litteraly after the wedding.
SoI divorced her for lying to me and making my life hell with her slit personalities, and to top it off the court gave custody of our daughter to her, but she even complains that her mom is crazy and wats to stay with me, but the judge wont hear it because she's a feminazi.
>>29834592
>being this underaged
>>29834681
>/k/ommandos shoot up BLM
>everyone says was self defense
>BLM says was self defense
>/k/ommandos turn themselves in
>are thrown in jail and charged even though there is no evidence to support the charges
>still no trials 6 months later while they sit in jail
You don't unnastan
>>29834681
>/k/ommandos shoot up BLM
>everyone says was self defense
>BLM says was self defense
>/k/ommandos turn themselves in
>are thrown in jail and charged even though there is no evidence to support the charges
>still no trials 6 months later while they sit in jail
You don't unnastan
>>29840053
all these years later and you're still mad as fuck
>>29834553
Dude look up "civil" cases compared to "criminal" cases. In Philadelphia there is a scandal where the city can take your house from you if you're accused of dealing drugs. Even if not guilty "criminally" then can still take it under "civil" action. Google it.
>>29840141
this
should've spent more time drinking and burned that bridge for all time like I did with my highschool sweetheart. Only time I think about her now is when I'm jacking to the old nudes.
>>29834923
Indeed. Fuck the Duluth Model..
It's flawed, and it's almost impossible to fix it due to pressure from women's groups. The same ones that pushed VAWA, which financially incentivizes, with taxpayer money, the prosecution of men for "domestic abuse".
>>29835101
>>29834543
>>29840141
I'm not mad about what happened. That shit is gone and gone. And really, I am way better off as things stand.
I'm pissed that she came back talking about how "we" fucked up. Like, she is simply not sufficiently self aware to understand and accept her full role in events. And that's about 85% of women I know.
>>29834592
Checks and balances she says! The legal system and the federal government are the same thing; who would've known?
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