Are Glocks the perfect handgun?
>>29833795
No such thing as a perfect handgun
however
So far Glock has come the closest
>Are Glocks a perfectly acceptable handgun?
Fixed that for you. The answer is yes.
No. There's no such thing as a handgun perfect for everything. They are one of the closest to being perfect though; and they just do what they're meant to do.
>>29833795
Not even ambi lmao. They're considered the standard, middle ground, though the price no longer reflects that because of fanbois like you.
Closest would be something from FN or HK's products.
Thats a weird way to spell USP
>>29833795
>Are Glocks the perfect handgun?
Seeing as how you need to replace the sights asap, no.
>>29833795
But that's not a 1911
>>29833795
No. They are fatter than most handguns, which is a tradeoff for their large capacity magazines. However, if you're in a state that limits handguns to 10 rounds, their is no benefit and you're better off with a single stack, which glock doesn't make.
>>29833836
Anon, I...
They're a solid baseline for what a modern handgun should be
>>29833843
Jesus christ it's still fat as fuck. What the fuck, glock?
>>29833836
>They are fatter than most handguns
Do you understand the concept of a staggered magazine?
>>29833858
You sound triggered. Glock dimensions are objectively inferior to every other handgun on the market.
>>29833836
>They are fatter than most handguns
You're so stupid and you're full of shit.
>their is no benefit and you're better off with a single stack, which glock doesn't make.
You're so stupid and you're full of shit.
>>29833833
1911 isn't perfect. However it's adequate for self-defense and range not to even mention the beauty of it's design. I love it simply by its looks but I wouldn't go as far as calling it perfect.
Yes, yes they are.
>>29833795
Very good, but not perfect.
Glocks do a great job of packing a lot of ammo into a very compact, lightweight, and dead reliable package that won't break the bank. That's their main appeal. The drawbacks are that the guns are not fully amidextrous, a lot of the parts will need to be replaced or modified to make them acceptable to most shooters (replacing the sights and probably the slide catch, maybe dremeling a curve into the trigger dingus, replacing the barrel on the 10mm models), and they are easy to limpwrist. I never had a problem with limpwristing a Glock, but I've seen other people do it, and it's a fact that some other handgun designs are a lot less susceptible to this than others. Glocks are probably the easiest guns to limpwrist.
I've owned two Glocks, a 19 and a 20. I put a lot of rounds through the 19, had BTTF issues, replaced the ejector (which solved the issue), but eventually ended up selling it. I now own a USP-C-9 and a Walther PPQ. Both are superior in every way except what I wrote above: the Glock 19 just provides the best compromise between capacity, size and weight. For a 15-round 9mm handgun, you won't find a smaller or lighter option out there.
>>29833868
I'll take that as a "no," then.
>>29833874
Glocks are the fattest of the full sized handguns, and their compacts are the fattest of that segment as well. That's overall width.
Now take into account their contours. While other handgun manufacturers contour the grip with a large thumb indent, glock barely makes a nod to contouring.
Glocks are objectively shit. The only reason to buy one is because you can abuse and neglect it and it will still work.
Sorry your gun is shit. Deal with it.
>>29833890
>"no"
That's what your mom tried to say, but you still happened.
Don't reply. Don't acknowledge. Don't discuss. Don't give any (You)'s.
>>29833795
>10 mm auto
>shoots in semi auto
wew
>>29833795
Perfect? No.
They are well priced, reliable firearms that deliver acceptable results in sporting, self defence and recreational use.
>>29833795
>shit grip angle
>no one asked for finger grooves
>mushy striker-fired trigger
>no front slide serrations
>shit sights (inb4 can be replaced)
>polymer frame is so thin it can be bent by squeezing it, all to save a few ounces of weight
>polygonal barrel rifling shits the bed with cast lead boolits
"Are Glocks the perfect handgun?"
LOLNO
>>29833900
Dubs speak the truth.
Shit threads like this are why /k/ has deteriorated so much. Sage and hide. Don't be part of the problem.
>>29833900
Sir your handgun is ready.
>>29833795
No. They didn't really have competition for a long time and as such have failed to advance as they should have, so now they rely on aftermarket to bring the gun to where it ought to be.
>>29833911
>muh grip angle is a few degrees different from some other handgun
>muh grip has finger grooves that incidentally fit me fine
>muh trigger which is fine isn't a match 1911 trigger
>muh press checks
>muh sights that don't break when I throw the gun at a steel shooting plate, but they're plastic so I guess they would melt in a fire or something
>muh super strong polymer that is designed to flex from recoil to prolong frame life
>muh cutting edge rifling technology doesn't mix with shitty 1000 year old bullet technology
Learn to shoot, faggot.
>>29833926
This is what glock fagits actually believe.
>>29833915
>>29833923
Idiots. I wasn't talking about the thread. I was talking about a single poster in the thread who should have been obvious to anyone.
>>29833938
Like anyone believes you, glockfag.
>>29833911
>the current year
>front slide serrations
>shooting cast lead bullets
>>29833926
>>muh grip angle is a few degrees different from some other handgun
Literally makes all the difference
>>muh grip has finger grooves that incidentally fit me fine
Good for you, faggot
>>muh trigger which is fine isn't a match 1911 trigger
Hence, not "perfection"
>>muh press checks
Not only used for press checks, faggot.
>>muh sights that don't break when I throw the gun at a steel shooting plate, but they're plastic so I guess they would melt in a fire or something
Has nothing to do with plastic, they are shit sights
>>muh super strong polymer that is designed to flex from recoil to prolong frame life
That is the excuse they feed dumbfucks like you.
>>muh cutting edge rifling technology doesn't mix with shitty 1000 year old bullet technology
Struggles with certain bullet types, therefore not "perfection"
Learn into "perfection" faggot.
Saged
>>29833950
>Literally makes all the difference.
If a few degrees difference in the angle of the grip is all it takes to throw you off your ability to put shots on target, then you are SHIT with a handgun. Learn to shoot.
The trigger is fine. If you can't shoot a 2" group at 10 yards, then you have no trigger control. Learn to shoot.
>thinks front slide serrations have any legitimate purpose besides mall ninja faggotry
>"hurrdurr the sights being "shit" are the reason why my groupings are 2 feet wide at 5 yards"
>implying you know more than Gaston Glock
I'm going to break your world view, home boy. You do not know more than Glock.
>>29833795
No. No gun is the perfect gun. They are however, a great choice for a wide variety of uses.
>>29833969
In a panic situation, yes it can. Raise the pistol in a panic, muzzle is pointed at perp's upper chest instead of boiler room. Have to get off a shot in 0.5 seconds or he will kill you. Sail shot into his shoulder, doesn't incapacitate him.
I have shot all types of guns. I could shoot a petrified turd well that someone bored a barrel into and hung a Hi-Point trigger on. Doesn't mean it will serve me well when I am having the adrenaline dump of my lifetime and I have to get one into the boiler room before my attacker kills me.
Go back to your vidya, faggot, where every bad guy stands still while you take a well, aimed shot.
>>29834029
I guarantee that your shooting skills are very limited, like beginner's level.
>>29833911
>cast lead bullets
>>29834038
Wrong, friendo. Been shooting for about 13 years. Thousands and thousands of rounds. I can shoot any pistol well. Some are easier than others. This is a fact.
>>29833795
Is OP ever not going to be a faggot?
>>29833880
Yeah, I know. I'm just fucking with people.
8+1 rounds of .45 super in one of the best ergonomic platforms isn't anything to mess with.
>>29834064
>implying length of time shooting means you are proficient in marksmanship
>>29834050
Met a guy at the range that digs the lead out and casts it for super cheap bullets.
>>29833818
>not even ambi lmao
They are ok for lefties though, I'm a leftie myself. Not perfect, but ok.
Mag release is not a problem, I actually prefer it to be right handed.
I wish the slide stop was ambi though since I need to rack the slide each time and locking it back is more troublesome than it should be, but still doable.
Makarov pistol, best pistol. Hands down.
>>29833795
I think they have the most basic options and services.
You can burn money making it work for you.
I'm not a fan of glocks, feels bad in hands and dont shoot well but these are things that can get over with practice.
Main reason I'm getting a glock is dem mag cap
>>29833795
I hate guns that have "ergonomic" grips
>>29834437
It's definitely better than a glock in every conceivable way, but like the glock, requires all kinds of aftermarket parts like nail polish and keyrings and 2 minutes with a dremel to really be the best pistol ever.
>he doesn't have an AOW cuckstamp
>>29833880
>>29833833
It's not perfect but I admire it's purity. A survivor... unclouded by useless features, gimmicks, ordelusions of tacticoolness.
>>29833884
>dead reliable
Why does this meme persist? I had a glock 19 that stovepiped 6/10 of its first shots. The problem persisted every 100-200 shots or so and no it wasn't the ammo. Sold that hunk of shit and bought an FNS. With all the mishaps they've had (glocknade fiasco) and the fact that they're finicky with light attachments, I don't understand why people still call them reliable.
>>29833818
>FN
never proven, no aftermarket support
>HK
have fun with your shit triggers and goofy mag releases
>>29834064
Wow multiple thousands of rounds! You must be like Bob Vogel or some shit. I wonder what kind of amazing pistol shooter can shoot more than 1000 rounds over 13 fucking years?
Guess what buddy? The number of years you spent shooting tin cans or the number of rounds you jerked low left into a berm mean nothing to me. If you can shoot well you can give some times/scores for some drills, not just bloviate about how much time/money you've wasted being a mediocre shot.
>>29833795
Is the Honda Civic the perfect car?
>>29833969
>Gaston Glock
> arms designer
Pick one and only one.
Besides, the Glock is exactly what you would expect from a cutlery handle designer - absolute shit highly packaged to be sold to morons like you.
COLSEG
>>29835446
He's actually right. Willem Bubits (sp) actually designed the Glock with Gaston applying his name to it. It's how Steyr was able to take the reliable qualities of the Glock and make it ergonomic to boot. If you have never shot one, I suggest it for all Glock owners. I owned a 17, a 19, and a 26 and sold them all when I got my MA1. For $100 less, I couldn't justify putting the cash into my 19 to make the trigger as good and there was nothing to do with the grip either way. If an aftermarket fram with similar ergos was available id do it in a heartbeat.
>>29833911
This, tbqh.
>>29835262
>FN
Literally one of the biggest arms manufacturers in the history of mankind. I'm pretty sure they can make a good pistol at this point.
>HK
A Glock fanboi calling an HK trigger shit? Get real. They may not be the best for DA/SA, but even the worst HK trigger shits on any Glock trigger all day. And don't mention a modified Glock trigger, because a modded DA/SA USP/P30 is literally modded 1911 levels of crispness which no Glock can achieve.
>>29833923
Laughed hard.
>>29833949
>>29833950
>>29834050
>the current year
>not shooting for less than 5c per loaded round
>>29835595
>That fucking unibrow
Jesus Christ, it's almost as thick as his mustache.
>>29833795
it says "glock perfection" for a reason anon.
>>29835602
A manipulative marketing ploy?
>>29833894
>VP9: 1.3" width
>Sig P229: 1.5" width
> S&W M&P: 1.2" width
>Glock 17: 1.1" witdth
>>29835645
Well that is comparitive bullshit. All of the standard frame Glocks have a grip width of 30mm or 1.18 inches. Get with it cholo.
>>29833795
I want this model, big 10mm pistols bring me joy, but I'm really paranoid about the glock safety after firing one. Why is it safe compared to DA/SA? It seems like something brushes the trigger and off it goes.
>>29833923
Fucking hell man, grab a Glock 20, it's like holding on to a table leg.
>>29833903
should it be full auto instead?
https://youtu.be/lYI3diEZhmo
>>29835654
>Glocks are the fattest of the full sized handguns
>Show that they aren't
>Well that is comparitive bullshit
wat
You misspelt it's 1911** and yes it is perfect.
Perfect gun for...
>>29835685
I was making the point that you were giving incorrect values in your assertion that they are thinner. If you make a point using data, you need to give actual values.
The M&P is also exactly 30mm, also those measurements for both guns are from the thinnest parts of the frame for marketing. Let me grab my calipers and snap a pic showing the widest on both, it's over 1.35 if I remember correctly.
>>29835704
Nothing.
I'm not a fan of Glock in general, but I have to admit that that my friend's Glock 19 was the easiest gun to shoot accurately on first use I have ever run across.
>>29833800
I'd never in my life use a glock to defend myself. Poor accuracy and sights, 9mm just doesn't have the power, plastic zetyle... sure it's strong but no. For what your paying for if you want plastic and 9mm but better, Sig all the way, if no plastic and no 9mm get a fucking 1911 and learn to shoot a real pistol
>>29835654
Lmao
>still narrower than all others listed
Kys thanks
>>29833795
>implying mosins aren't the perfect handgun
>implying Hi-Points are not the perfect gun
>>29835786
>Mosin
No.
>Obrez
Yes.
>>29835760
This, but I actually don't mind the sights. I can get it up to your eye and get a good sight picture faster with a glock than with any of my other handguns.
I would trust my life to myCZ but the extra $100 I paid for adjustable competition sights was not worth it.
>>29836458
I can get it up to my eye, rather
P99
>DA/SA trigger worthy of accolades, perfected in the PPQ
>adjustable front and rear sights
>grip contoured to human hands and comes with different sized back straps
>fully ambidextrous
>cocked striker indicator
>same capacity, price and weight as a Glock
>decocker
>isn't rectangles: the gun
>>29835760
>9mm
>not enough power
>.45
>same energy as 9mm
kill yourself plz
>non repairable frame
>too fat for most people without spider hands
>frame is easily damaged and weak to sunlight attacks and common solvents
>terrible ergonomics
>one in da chamba lol no safety
I mean I wouldn't mind a g40 if they had a super thin titanium frame where I could actually reach the slide release and mag release without both hands or hand acrobatics
>>29835599
>his
They're solid pistols, nothing earth-shattering though.
>>29833795
Wouldn't say perfect but there one of the best had guns you can get no doubt about it, I have a glock 19 but my perfect handgun is my ruger security 6 cuz stopping power, especially when it's 125gr.
>>29833894
Hi there baby hands.
>>29835112
>says meme
Just fucking an hero already faggot please
>>29835760
Your not even trying lmao
>>29833894
glock 17 is too slim IMO
prefer sig 226 or beretta 92fs
>>29836383
>>29833795
funny way to spell Beretta OP
>>29840585
I agree, I like the Beretta 92 over the Glock
Took me a long while to get over my bias. Always was a M&P guy (and still am for 9mm). The 13 rounds of 45 in a flush mag is what finally made me mess around with a glock. Started with a Glock 21, had it for a year and really liked it. Sold it for more then I paid for the the second the long slide version was announced. Did a few things to it though, double diamond trigger bar, reduced rate plunger spring, polished factory safety plunger, OEM glock extended slide releases, and of course the Arredondo extended mags (17 rounds of 45 makes me hot). I still think the grip is bulky and the finger grooves are dumb but I like it.
Plan to get a Glock 40 as well and do the same mods to it.
Who makes a good novak 3 dot sight for the glock anyways? I gotta dump these shitty stock ones soon.
Just saw off the muzzle of a mosin.
That's the perfect handgun.
>>29844444
>good novak 3 dot sight
Trijicon.
I have a set of em on my g26 ccw.
>>29844458
I was looking at them before. Might just pull the trigger on em. Been so tired up with other projects lately though
>>29844484
139.60 on ebay
