Ship of the Line
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We've had some /k/ommando[s?] starting threads like:
>where can i buy a destroyer
>how much does a battleship cost
>what would you do with an aircraft carrier
Well, fuck all those expensive choices; let's go with something much cheaper & far classier:
>a square-rigged, first-rate, sailing ship-of-the-line
>(pic is of a 2nd rate)
Think about it: we can buy one from an owner no longer willing to put the money into costly maritime wood maintenance etc, or, better yet, we buy timbered land and log it all for wood to build a new one; there's a practically limitless pool of skilled & trainable labor available through the miracle of the internet, and we can /k/rew it ourselves....
>itt: /k/ discusses ownership of a big old sailing ship outfitted with like a hundred cannon
>>29816523
could we replace the old cannon with modernized weapons?
A broadside with RPGs in place of cannonballs would be a nice way to greet pirates
>>29817009
40mm BOFORS would be a better replacement I think. Adding an engine would also be a good idea, as the capability to ignore the wind would be quite beneficial.
>>29817009
RPG damaging a ship made from thick as fuck wood kek. I bet you are next gonna say they should turn it into living quarters for syrian refugees.
>>29817009
Keep a few of the old guns.
I just want to give ali ack pirate a face full of grape.
Guys, why don't we just steal the HMS Victory? Nobody will stop us if we dress up like Muslims, we could say it's part of our "cultural heritage."
>>29817032
considering a ship of the line requires a shitton of tar and rope, seems that a few dozen RPGs could do damage to the support structure. Especially if you're doing multiple broadsides in a battle, and can't do extensive repairs often
>>29817095
We can just hang some chainlink above the water line. But what are the odds some retard would take an rpg to sea?
Besides us?
>>29817025
At that point, why don't you iron plate it and fit it with a steam engine?
>>29817312
Ya and we could add turrets on the deck that can maneuver 360 degree, it'd be useful you you cant turn the entire ship!
>>29817095
HEAT warheads are pointless on a ship. It's not about penetrating the hull - cannonballs already did that just fine and with greater effect.
It's about killing crew and penetrating below the water line - something HEAT can't do.
>>29817090
>Nobody will stop us if we dress up like Muslims, we could say it's part of our "cultural heritage."
Thats gotta be the weakest bantz on the anti-muslim bandwagon I have ever read.
>>29816523
Fuck that, I want a handsomely gunned frigate, like the Constitution.
>>29817711
Very well: we'll keep the original ordinance & *augment* it with modern armaments; items like cabinet-stowable RPGs & maybe a mondo-huge railgun running stern-to-prow along the keel-line (with the muzzle the mouth of a menacing figurehead)....
>some asw would be nice too
>>29816523
I'm working on submarines and dirigibles. The Airship is more a mobile lab/home.
Toyed with just making the sub a blimp too.
I've always liked the French approach to frigate design. Very fast and very strong sailors.
>>29818125
I, too, have considered subs & blimps, especially an idea for a catamaran-configuration double-zeppelin with a huge open deck between them; also converting one of the largest decommissioned nuclear submarines in the world into a fuckhuge under-the-arctic heroine-smuggling cargo carrier... but, ultimately, an old sailing frigate, schooner, brigantine, sloop, galleon or clippership would be far less expensive to operate & maintain.
also
>harpoon asm
>vulcans mounted bow & stern
>big enough to fit tomahawk & patroit launchboxes amidships at a weird angle
>>29818256
I'd be willing to crew up for the ship of the line or the dope submarinr if you ever get that together there cap'n
>>29818211
Yes. And very courteous too. They even had the decency to name some ships for the Royal Navy before the Royal Navy took the ships off the Frenchies hands.
What shall we name our glorious vessel /k/omrades?
>Trips decide
>>29818411
There's no bounty or prize money for a sailor of a ship of the line. For the most part, they are dock queens. Now a frigate on patrol duty.... that's a nice sailing life.
>>29818411
Fuck ever being a regular sailor on a ship of the line. That would suck like no man's business.
>>29818433
Giga Cuck
>>29818433
ss sergei mosin
>>29818411
>>29818422
>>29818433
Based sequential dubs
>>29818460
Voting for this
>>29818433
At Least My Parents Raised Me Right
>>29818546
This
>>29818433
4CS Remove Kebab
>>29818433
LCS remover
/knv/ Cheekie Breekie
(/k/ommando Naval Vessel)
>>29818609
This was ment for >>29818433
>>29818422
Pls no bully. French Navy is part of the reason we got our independence from Britain.
>>29818433
Never Speak To Me Or My Son Again
>buying a ship of the line
>not a clipper ship with those newfangled Dahlgren guns
It's like you don't even want to bring the tea in from China as quickly as humanly possible.
>>29818433
The Kommando Ship What The Fuck Did You Just Fucking Say About Me, You Little Bitch? I’ll Have You Know I Graduated Top Of My Class In The Navy Seals, And I’ve Been Involved In Numerous Secret Raids On Al-Quaeda, And I Have Over 300 Confirmed Kills. I Am Trained In Gorilla Warfare And I’m The Top Sniper In The Entire US Armed Forces. You Are Nothing To Me But Just Another Target. I Will Wipe You The Fuck Out With Precision The Likes Of Which Has Never Been Seen Before On This Earth, Mark My Fucking Words. You Think You Can Get Away With Saying That Shit To Me Over The Internet? Think Again, Fucker. As We Speak I Am Contacting My Secret Network Of Spies Across Theusa And Your IP Is Being Traced Right Now So You Better Prepare For The Storm, Maggot. The Storm That Wipes Out The Pathetic Little Thing You Call Your Life. You’re Fucking Dead, Kid. I Can Be Anywhere, Anytime, And I Can Kill You In Over Seven Hundred Ways, And That’s Just With My Bare Hands. Not Only Am I Extensively Trained In Unarmed Combat, But I Have Access To The Entire Arsenal Of The United States Marine Corps And I Will Use It To Its Full Extent To Wipe Your Miserable Ass Off The Face Of The Continent, You Little Shit. If Only You Could Have Known What Unholy Retribution Your Little “Clever” Comment Was About To Bring Down Upon You, Maybe You Would Have Held Your Fucking Tongue. But You Couldn’t, You Didn’t, And Now You’re Paying The Price, You Goddamn Idiot. I Will Shit Fury All Over You And You Will Drown In It. You’re Fucking Dead, Kiddo.
>>29819070
>Tea
>Not moving fucking bricks from the East Indies
Opium or bust, family.
if /k/ ever got a boat we should shoot for something like a fast attack boat/pt boat.
>small
>diesel or gas powered
>easy to move
>easy to take care of
>gottagofast.jpg
>can mount flamethrowers to it and remove commie
>literally it aint me in ship form
we need to buy like 10 pt boats, now.
>>29819122
Ever seen Black Lagoon?
>>29818433
Mosin McNuggetface
>>29819134
>tfw will never move crates of drugs, guns, and hookers across the ocean in old nam PT boats and get paid in fucking insane amounts
why live
>>29818433
The Adolf Hitler Boat of Friendship and Tolerance
>>29819195
We could build the PT boat.(Look up the Elco 80', that's what they use in the show) They're made out of goddamn plywood. Then it's just a matter of getting to Thailand and getting set up.
>>29819094
Yeah, but tea is time sensitive cargo.
This means that the ships that were built for Chinese tea were the fastest commercial sailing vessels ever developed.
>>29817571
I think it's anti-brit bantz m8, not that there's a difference.
>>29817571
It's more anti-british.
>>29818433
Nebula.
>>29818433
Starchild.
>>29819249
It's not a boat, queerface.
>>29818256
>catamaran-configuration double-zeppelin with a huge open deck between them
What purpose?
What is the width of the deck between, in relation to the width of the zeppelins?
Open air or what?
>>29819662
For parties. Duh.
>>29816523
There are only a few extant ships-of-the-line, all of which are paid for for the next century at least, and to build a new one you would need several hectares of 200 to 300 year-old hardwood, and even if you could afford that; the building of large wooden ships was an art that was passed down from one generation to the next until the beginning of the 1800s. The truth is, nobody really knows ho to build one of those things from scratch anymore, it's about all we can do to maintain the ones we have now. So, unless you're a multi-millionare with access to a ridiculous number of 300 year-old oak trees and the cryogenically frozen remains of an entire 18th-century shipyard (cutters, formers, caulkers, sealers, joiners, peggers, painters, riggers, etc.), you won't be getting a tall ship.
>>29819094
ALL WHITE BRICKS
>>29818433
The White Ship
>>29816523
I want to buy an iron late 18th century gun boat and use it to force open trade with north Korea.
>>29818433
>USS Fuckemup
>>29818433
Dolphin Rapehut
>>29818433
Booze Cruze
>>29818433
Registered DD (Dragon Dildo)
>>29818433
>Furry Frigate
>>29820187
L'Hermione >>29818211
is a reproduction of the frigate of the same name that served at Yorktown. She was built to the plans of the original, with the exception of the required diesel engine for safety. The ability to build them is still there even if the original shipyards and hand woodworking knowledge is gone.
>>29819031
And American Navy is why they got their independence from Germany. Twice. Paid in full and then some, I'd say.
>>29818433
Trap Catcher
>>29820187
I've noticed that modern reproductions never seem to get the tumblehome shape of the hull right. Do you think that's because they don't use the same techniques?
>>29820330
The Fucky Mup!
>>29818433
The Aetheress
>>29819488
>>29819538
>implying a difference
>>29818433
USS MOIST NUGGET
>>29818433
/k/SS Atlantic Mudkip
>>29818433
Cold Steel Mora Griptilian
>>29818433
Schicklgruber
>>29819662
Ideally, the deck between the twin zeppelins should be as wide as it is long, or perhaps those dimensions should be in golden ratio; the Hindenberg was just a little over eight hundred feet long....
>>29819682
>this one gets it
...also, well, it could serve as an aircraft carrier for lightweight propeller-driven aircraft.
>>29818433
USS Wage Slavery
Killer /k/rab
>>29819070
If you could get clipper speed out of something the size of a two-mast schooner that would probably be the best option for a sail/k/raft.
In case I get trips: The Moist Nugget
>>29818433
HKS (His /k/ubeness's Ship) Magical Floating Place
>>29818433
USS Benis :D
>>29817090
I see it often. Walk by the HMS Warrior daily. It looks fine.
/K/NV Nex Alea
>>29822898
>898
so close
>>29818433
Aether
![80a7876bd51b3d20ae70b06e3ec23534[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3f4XoV4.jpg "80a7876bd51b3d20ae70b06e3ec23534[1].jpg")
>>29820939
If you want decks, and to stay more lift efficient, that conjoined double blimp/dirigible is likely better. It has all the deck space on top.
>pic related
>>29818433
The Celestial
>>29818433
Mercy
>>29818433
The Cosmic Voyager.
>>29818433
innawood
>>29818433
SS Hitler's Revenge
>>29817145
>But what are the odds some retard would take an rpg to sea?
>>29818433
The /k/raken
You could buy this Navy Minesweeper
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/5566271269.html
>>29818433
The Taker of Virginity
>>29818433
Erika
>>29818433
KSS Spurdo Spadre
>>29818433
"A kraken once tried to swallow me"
>>29818433
Negro Drowner
>>29818433
Boaty McBoatface
>>29818433
The /k/omandette
>>29818433
The Fudd
>>29818433
The Cultural Enrichment
>>29818433
"Common Sense Gun Legislation"
>>29818433
The /pol/ Queen
>>29818433
Niggers Tongue My Anus
>>29818433
The Anal Avenger
>>29818433
Don't Detain Me Bro
>>29818433
KSS Uninfringable
>>29818433
/k/ommando Mc/k/ommandoface
>>29818433
The USS FREEDOM
>>29818433
The floating sausage.
>>29818433
H/k/S Cheekie Breekie
(His /k/ubeness Ship)
>>29816523
this fucking thread made me have the kek of my life
>>29818433
"This Boat Is Trained To Fuck Your Face"
>>29818433
"A Magical Place."
>>29830459
"The leaky Breeki"
>>29830459
>>29830500
Rerolls
>>29818433
Polychrest would fit, seeing as it would be a sorry ship with a crew of landsmen.
>>29817552
Actually cannonballs didn't... They were better at bombarding forts and dealing with merchant ships.
Some of those old warships had a foot think of wood, and wood is flexible enough to give into force and spread the impact over a wide area.
>>29818433
mermaids manhood
>>29818433
Sweedish Superpower
>>29822821
>It looks fine.
Have you noticed how Victory isn't actually in the water though?
>>29820187
the materials are a far bigger problem than the building techniques, older designs than a ship of the line have been reconstructed, at least one greet trimerene, and a 15th century caravel have been built and sailed successfully and both from less information than is available for a 18th or 19th century ship of the line.
in the case of a ship of the line, particularly a british design, plans do exist the british archives do contain plans and often builders models for most major vessels from the mid 18th century onwards, and other records and accounts do exist as well, combine that with the opportunity to examine the surviving examples and it is extremely likely that a accurate picture of how to construct such a ship would be gained, from that the techniques and skills needed can be developed albeit with a little trial and error
"Charms"
>>29832296
cannon balls did penetrate the hulls of warships, sure warships had greater resistance than merchant ships, but actually less than many forts, especially once earthworks started to supplement and replace masonry in fortifications.
the thing is warship guns tended to be fairly heavy, with 32 and 24 pounders being the standard guns for the main battery of most ships of 3rd rate and above, and at close range a 24 pounder WILL penetrate a foot of oak, a 32 pounder also, although the main killing was done not by the cannon balls but by the wood splinters from the impact
>>29832755
Thats right. It used long forgotten anti gravity technologies to glide across the surface of the water.
What many people do not know however, is that this technology was culturally expropriated from Sub Saharan Africans in the late 15th century.
>>29818433
Nova, or Super Nova.
>>29818433
Nart
>>29818433
Apeiron
>>29834111
>>29834111
>>29834111
>Apeiron
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!
>>29817009
strap all of the mosins and sks at the sides and charge and for the figurehead i would suggest a dragondildo
>>29834111
It sounds so cool but. i know its offensive but its accurate.
>>29817009
>not keeping the original guns
>not adding a 32-pound congreave rocket battery
shaking my head family
>>29834155
It is a classical cosmological word meaning infinite or endless, and Abyss.
![2379952359_a9e8fcbccc[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PCpfu54.jpg "2379952359_a9e8fcbccc[1].jpg")
>>29834111
>this is Galaxy to Aperion, what's your status. Over
>>29834111
Well, Apeiron it is. Lets go bananas with this.
![Albany_Tug_boat_Elgin[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xAAxKwR.jpg "Albany_Tug_boat_Elgin[1].jpg")
bump
>>29834111
>>29834135
>>29834202
>>29834306
I present to you all, the KVS Apeiron
>pic related
>A ship from the French L'Ócean class of ironclads.
>Was powered by steam or sail and could reach 20knots
>513mm of combined armor
>4 Barbette's (2 on each side)
>4 guns on the battery deck on each side.
If /k/ could rebuild on of these it would be glorious. We could weld 4 Pantsir-S1 AA systems to the Barbetts, Mount 8 152mm Ml-20s in the battery decks, slap on some ERA, modernized the engines and hoist the colors.
I got $1000 to put towards a brig or schooner. For the size of their crews, $100 per seaman and $1000 per officer might get this thing built.
>>29816523
What could possibly go wrong?!
>>29839203
These are actually pretty expensive, would need to add two 0's to those numbers. 50 crew and 5 officers could get us a million.
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1983/Classic-schooner-2682136/Rockland/ME/United-States#.VyqHXTArI2w
This bad girl comes in at just shy of a million, holds 60, and sleeps 30, so that 55 man crew would be just right with 2 shifts.
IF there are 50 autists with $10,000 and a handful of richfags with actual sailing knowledge.
Not counting the cost of a dozen or so 4 pounders.
>>29839464
1 volunteer in for 10 grand. Reading Aubrey&Maturin and I understand at least half of what is going on.
