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I'm looking to (finally) add a flashlight to my AR and would like some recommendations. I've heard good things about Surefire and I've been looking at the M600 Ultra Scout Light. Anyone have experience with it or what else would you recommend instead if not? Also, do you prefer side mounted on picatinny rails, or 45 degree offset mounted from the top using a canted mount?
Preferably under $300, thanks.
>Pic related is the one I've been looking at.
>>29807781
Get a 1" El cheapo ring attachment then get a maglite ultra.
Works well with my setup, save your cash for ammo son.
>>29807867
I have 5k of every caliber I own (not including my other stock specifically for shooting) so I'm not in need of ammo. I have decent optics/furniture/etc., so all I've left to add is a good light. Thanks for the rec though, I might do that on a basic PSA AR I'm building for my friend.
>>29807781
I have the M300 single cell mini scout on my rifle. For my purposes, the 300 lumen mini scout is plenty light for me, and saves some weight vs the M600 2 cell model.
>>29807781
I'll help a nigga out because I'm getting a light for my ar too.
Apparently, a light from Arisaka defense/head from Malkoff Devices is a good cost effective alternative to surefires. Half the cost but not as durable as surefire but durable enough.
>>29807781
M600u is based
you guys are taking into advantage run time right? most of these lights only have a runtime of a couple hours. great for tactical response shit, but not really utilitarian for SHTF purposes
>>29808051
>most of these lights only have a runtime of a couple hours
Because you don't actually keep a weaponlight on for an hour straight. You tap it for a second then move on somewhere else
>>29808071
i know, i just dont like having to factor in being proactive in battery changes. these high lumen lights dont start to fade when the lithium batteries run out, they just immediately power off if theres no more juice. so after a few months of usage, you have to remember to add fresh batteries if you dont want to get caught by surprise with no light
what do you guys think of streamlight TLR1? i know its a pistol light but it mounts to a rail just fine
>>29808118
>these high lumen lights dont start to fade when the lithium batteries run out, they just immediately power off if theres no more juice.
my x300, x300U and m300, and m300v all fade out.
>>29808118
My surefire weaponlights don't just "turn off." They go to a lower output when battery is low to tell you to replace your CR123s.
>>29808118
i am prepared for this(pic)
>>29807781
wanna buy a m600p for $200, it's uded and has some dings but comes with a pressure switch(no tail cap)
>>29808169
>>29807781
pic is the light i'm selling.
>>29808169
i really like that, what is the little bullet looking thing in the front handguard compartment? oiler? laser boresight?
>>29808206
oil bottle
Got this puppy off the books because Im a poorfag. Bright as fuck and has an IR option.
what about your rubber plate for the buttstock, does that also allow storage in there? i have the same stock, without the rubber
>>29808273
meant for giddy
>>29808240
>>29808287
no, it's just a rubber pad
>>29808133
its definately poorfag status but i like it on mine
>>29808169
whats the orange thing next to the batteries
>>29808514
ear plugs, i use them to keep the battery from rattling and even gave one to someone who forgot their protection.
>>29807781
I've got an M300 on an AUG, an M600V on a 16S, and an M600P Fury on a 17S and they've all been bomb-proof.
Before I started buying SureFires I had one of the WML's. It was a good deal, but the pressure switch did crap out after about a year. It would turn on but it was jittery and something was clearly off about it.
I would like to try one of the Arisaka Defense lights though, I don't know too terribly much about them. A friend also just got Streamlights new rail mounted Scout clone (I think they're about $100) and he says it's fine but I don't know how much abuse it's gotten as he's only had it a week.
>>29807781
>3024x4032
Money no object? Want to be high speed low drag like a delta force operator?? Get a surefire, three hundred dollars for the light plus a few hundred more to effectively attach and use it.
>Preferably under $300
Get a Streamlight ProTac, they make one and two battery versions depending on what you want. Costs a fraction of the Surefire (around 100 shipped), comes with everything you need at under a third of the cost and it is three times brighter, lighter and shorter.
Allegedly the surefire is more water resistant and tougher but are you really going to be using it to insert into a rocky shore from the hull of a submarine at night?
>>29808769
I was watching some Frank Proctor videos on youtube and he mentioned he uses the protac 1L as a weaponlight. It's only ~$40 on amazon. I'm not looking at the same on am I?
>>29808607
Deets on the lower rail lightning cuts?
>>29808790
>protac 1L
that looks like the bare light, Im talking this flavor
http://streamlight.com/static/document/data_sheet/ProTacRailMount1_DataSheet.pdf
I have the two battery version, cost me around 100$ shipped on amazon.
http://streamlight.com/static/document/data_sheet/protacrailmount2_datasheet.pdf
>>29808790
you are. stream lights are inexpensive, effective, and practical. i used a beat up surefire g2x for 3.5 years in iraq and while a lot of dudes shit on it for being old or out of tacticool fashion, it worked well, easy to find parts for if something broke, and it didn't break much at all.
sometimes people put too much value on gucci instead of being a soldier or fighter. same reason i laugh off the guys super pushing keymod or mlok. 1913 rails work great, and idgaf if it's 1lb heavier on my already 14lb carbine, and that extra hassle of using an adapter or whatever isn't worth being nonstandard with everyone else or stuff at the PX. same goes for crazy super slick finishes or hyper expensive muzzle devices.
if you wanna enjoy your money by playing dress up and take pics, go for it, but gtfo that you can even remotely pretend that shit makes you a better fighter.
>>29808796
Parker Mountain Machine does it. You can either buy them outright or send in yours and he refunds you $20. I had him do mine when I sent my barrel in, that's a 14.1" pin to 16" OAL.
http://www.parkermountainmachine.com/store/p103/PMM_SCAR_16%2F17_Lightweight_Lower_1913_Rail_Section.html
>>29808813
Ah, okay. I might get either that or build my own arisaka light when I do go and order an mlok rail for my ar
>>29808852
I was confused as to why a grandmaster shooter/ ex special forces dude was using a $40 light. I always thought streamlights were around the $100 mark. Good to know I don't need to spend surefire money for a decent light. How is the tape switches on streamlights?
>>29807781
Arisaka body/mount + Malkin flashlight head works pretty good.
>>29808790
they're alright but the glass is pretty fragile on them.
>>29808867
Neato. I'm also curious if yours was a blem rifle?
OP, can't ever go wrong with SureFire (unless you buy their mags.)
>>29808899
>I was confused as to why a grandmaster shooter/ ex special forces dude was using a $40 light. I always thought streamlights were around the $100 mark. Good to know I don't need to spend surefire money for a decent light. How is the tape switches on streamlights?
the backing on the one stream light i used was garbage and i just used one of those skateboard tape things to keep it in place. a really goo, if over looked weapon light is the M600 or M951. i used both and i really liked that the 951 (i think...) took AA batteries.
i find more use out of a sub 100 lumen light than the super bright ones, the bright white light washes shit out and reflects too easily while the more yellow light of an incandecent or just a dimmer light worked better at dusk and low light.
>>29808852
Honest question: you were in a war zone and presumably busting into places. You were on the attack and part of a trained team. Do you seriously recommend a weapons light for a civilian in home defense, urban defense, or SHTF? Because the idea of letting the asshole know exactly where I am makes my feet itch.
>>29807781
I use the Surefire X300 Ultra on mine. it's small, sturdy, light weight, clamps down really tight, and it is very bright. You can pick one up for about 200. And because of the size, you could remove it to put it on a handgun if you felt like it.
>>29808938
>I'm also curious if yours was a blem rifle?
It was, I actually have the letter around here somewhere. FN sent a note along with them that says like "We warranty all our guns and this is no exception...except the finish." lol
>>29808950
stop, stop being a retard.
weapon lights or at least a hand held is a must have for hd.
>>29808950
You don't think it's necessary to identify your target at night before you start slapping your trigger? I would like to know if I'm about to shoot Jamal or one of my kids.
>>29808950
more information is better than no information, so yes a light is absolutely recommended. i was 11B prior to 18C (i posted around here a couple times last year, i'm in maritime security now). and door kicking you use violence of action and momentum to keep going and maximize your surprise.
if you're defending turf you're already familiar with, all the light does is give you an option for gathering more information on a target or area where you need more details. otherwise just don't turn it on and navigate normally. you know your house better than some random dude probably.
again, maximize the advantage and dont' deny yourself any options - even if they aren't useful NOW, they might be useful later.
>>29808950
not him, but i think for civilian use it's a bit more important. you are going to be close in home defense ranges, and it's far more important to ID the threat with your light to make sure its not your dumb teenager sneaking back into the house after going out for a party, or a drunk neighbor, landlord, dog, etc. besides it would only take you a split second to ID target after flashing them with a light, by the time they realize whats going on, you are already putting lead into them if they are a badguy. its not like youre going to go around clearing rooms in a HD scenario anyway, unless you are an idiot
I use the Primary Arms Ultimate Weapon Light.
It's big, but it's built like a tank and throws a lot of light a really long way. It also costs a fraction of what a Surefire does.
But I mean, if you hate money, just go ahead and get a Surefire. In the unlikely event SHTF and you fall down a mountain while being pursued by a small army, it will have a 25% greater chance of surviving to its next use, either by you or your enemies.
>>29809028
>>29809023
>>29809022
>>29808982
well, he baited us.
good joj phil
>>29809028
See that's fucking dumb though - i started using glowsticks on all my guns for this VERY reason
all you idiots with your battery powered devices arent going to mean shit because 100% of the time you need those contraptions THEY WILL FAIL
with a glowstick i can smack it if i hear boom boom crash and KNOW IT WILL WORK 1000% of the time without giving away my position. when i need to idenfity a target I can just thorw the stick at them and that also gives me the benefit of surprise because you bet your ass they're going to try and catch it just as a biological response, you can't help it, and when their arms go up you VENTILATE
>>29809049
No, I was being honest. And I'm still not convinced. I'm just mulling it over.
>>29809069
This. Why do you think navy seals and delta use glowticks?
I have one attatched to some 550 cord to throw in a buzzsaw if and when I need to tell 911 that my house is clear from intruders when they get here.
gowticks are the most versatile piece of equipment HANS DOWN
>>29807781
BIG flashlight guy here OP, go with Eagletac G or T25C2 or Armytek Predator Pro XP-L HI and according pressure switches and rail mounts. Better runtimes, better UI. Get good 18650 batteries like Panasonic Protected NCR18650Bs and Xtar Charger and you are GTG.
>>29809087
chemlights dont replace a weaponlight. most of the time i used them to read or as a marker when a strobe was inappropriate.
what i dont get is why people are wondering about having a light at all? there are small inexpensive effective lights for your throw (about 25 meters max inside your home maybe?) so not having one just limits your options. just my 2 cents man. door kicking is pretty different from defending a home. and defending a base isn't anything similar either.
>>29809110
>chemlights dont replace a weaponlight.
They do when you have 20 of them
>>29809084
well, your are clearly retarded.
everyone has been telling you that hd lights are a must have for the longest time
>>29809113
fair enough, but with 20 chemlights, i would be tempted to tape them to my clothes as a chemskeleton and oogabooga at some dude.
and i've have a weaponlight anyway at crotch level.
>>29809123
>i would be tempted to tape them to my clothes as a chemskeleton and oogabooga at some d
I'm joking about the chemlight bullshit but I kek'd at this
>>29809126
>>29809123
you niggers are so stupid delta uses chemlights because THEY WORK
both my guns are kitted out with chemlights yall can keep your surefires because at the end of the day when shtf/wrol/towtawtkiki your shit will fail and i'll be surviving in the green glow of GEAR THAT WORKS
>>29809138
>>29809153
The snap of a chemlight and then another snap from a 5.56 bullet out of nowhere would scare me more than anything in the world
>>29809168
son you don't know the definition of the elemant of surprise until you whip a chemlight through your domecile at some punk trying to jack ur shit
there are things that a flashlight cant do and there are things that they cant do and covering a criminal SCUMBAG in predator jizz before you fill them full a holes is on that lists.
>>29809168
>>29809196
What if we have a gun that shoots chemlights?
>>29809202
https://youtu.be/iRUSQm5ZskQ?t=59s
>>29809196
>>29809224
predator cum actually irritates your skin right?
>>29809153
WTF? Is that a 42 round AUG mag slammed into an AR-15?
>>29809224
GOD DAMNIT JACK!
>>29809153
My dad worked in supply in the marines back in the first gulf war and someone accidentally ordered ~$250,000 in glowsticks or some shit so he took a few boxes for himself. During Hurricane Andrew, our entire house was completely lit up with glowsticks everywhere.
>>29809290
>not building the house out of glowsticks or making fun signs for the rescue helicopters
>>29808133
I liked it enough to put it on my long rifle and also my pistol. They are tried and true.
Surefire makes great stuff. You can't go wrong with the scout. I would just get the m300; you don't really need to spend the extra money on the m600, the 300 offers plenty of runtime and output as is, and you save a little weight.
If you already have a quad rail, don't bother with an extra mount, just slap it on the side.
Just remember, you are paying a premium for the Surefire name; you can usually find a comparable, brighter light for less, but the construction and quality will be negligibly lower.
If you have the cash though, go for the m300
>>29808199
Damn, if you had posted this add next month I'd be on it, but sadly no money right now
>>29807781
Streamlight has worked well for me, and around $100.00 if I remember correctly. Also most cops where I live choose them.
