I never see any memes on striker-fired vs hammer-fired pistols.
Should I be taking a side?
>>29807199
>Should I be taking a side?
You're a fag and should have both.
>>29807210
First post best post
>>29807199
why do you kids say meme all the fucking time to the point it is meaningless?
>>29807199
I prefer hammer-fired guns over striker fired guns. That said, picking a side on such a small issue is stupid, guns are guns no matter how they operate.
That being said, this is 4chan so prepare for side taking and shit flinging.
>>29807199
take the muzzle side and pull the trigger
>>29807225
Judicial application of shitposting techniques yields faster responses, as you can see.
>>29807210
>>29807227
Ok.
>>29807199
not everything has to be a stupid competition, geeze. just get the one you like best and that you train with more. holy cow, people. same with AR/AK, Glock/1911, chevy/ford, whatever. gun forums would be so much more interesting if people didn't confuse options with rivalries. come on.
Well since we're in a shitposting thread
>>29807472
kekked, well done
I like DA/SA because the transition from the first shot to the remainder is fun to me. To most people, they see it as a bad thing because they're not used to it.
Striker has its merits, I'm picking up my Shield tomorrow.
see >>29807210
I love how maturely /k/ handles these things. This is why I like you guys even though we disagree on Muslims, blacks, and women.
>>29807472
I was thoroughly rused.
>>29807521
>I love how maturely /k/ handles these things
This thread kicked off okay, it will only get worse from here on
>>29807472
oh you cheeky fuck
>>29807199
I have some really great info for you on this but your post had "meme" in it so fuck you.
So... what's the difference between hammer vs striker fire?
>>29807569
One has the bullet impact force of a hammer hitting your kneecaps, the other has the force of a soccer player kicking a ball into your testicles.
YMMV
>>29807569
striker fired is for people that aren't dumber than retarded gorillas
>>29807569
ur mum lol
>>29807199
In theory there isn't much point.
In practice hammer fed guns can have their trigger weights adjusted more easily and they don't really make DA/SA striker fired guns with manual safeties.
I'd say if you care about those two things get a hammer fired like a cz or an HK p30, if you don't then get a striker fired because an attacker can't block the hammer.
>>29807569
hammer fired means there is a hammer that whacks the firing pin (or is attached to the hammer), which strikes the primer.
striker fired means the firing pin is driven purely by spring tension into the primer. the trigger acts as a means of releasing that tension.
>>29807610
Oh also should have mentioned.
Roughly all the SA with no manual safety or 1.5 action guns are striker fired so that too.
Basically glock/xd/s&w style vs decocker vs manual safety is the question not striker vs hammer.
>>29807610
>>29807661
Much appreciated.
Look @ that hammer
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>>29807199
I have 2 striker fired. One over a century old, the other a bit over a year old.
Never tried a hammer-fired to be honest.
>>29807472
Bravo
Its just preference and it's good that both exist so you can have whatever you prefer.
Striker gives you consistent trigger pull but usually has no second strike, they also tend to be more cost effective. Hammer gives you DA/SA but they have a higher bore axis. Neither is more reliable because shit can get in your striker or hammer channel. I honestly wouldn't worry about reliability unless you're considering a vp9 or 1911 which are both worst in their class.
>>29807472
FUCK 10/10
That's good shit postin'
>>29808233
>Hammer gives you DA/SA but they have a higher bore axis
shut up
>>29807718
dassexxybby
>>29808233
>muhaxis
This meme needs to die
>>29808565
It's a retard who thinks second strike or high bore axis is a thing. Ignore the retard, he only knows bullshit he skims off around the internet
>>29808233
Nah was thinking about a new Sig, probably a 226 or 250.
>>29807472
>>29807210
/thread
>>29807472
>>29807472
FUCK THE FILENAME TOO
I've been double tricked
>>29807199
>>29808961
That's perfect anon, thank you!
>>29808961
>Trigger pull quality is good
>DA is no
It is for my sig but a nice graph to explain. Maybe instead of 'good', it can be 'light'
>>29807506
I like the sig sauer system the best
the heavy trigger pull of DA mode is like having a safety without that silly shit they put on glocks.
>>29809461
I'm just saddened how they don't have a small enough da/sa 9mm for conceal carry.
>>29808647
After the notorious quality control issues they had with the TSA contract I wouldn't go with the 250. I like the SP2022 and can be had for a good price but only comes with one magazine.
>>29809514
You ever look at the CZ compacts or their variants?
>>29809514
P225, senpai.
>>29809548
Not too much of a fan of cz's but I was looking at those polymer ramis.
>>29809609
>p225
literally the size of a glock 19 and not even 10 rounds. I would of said otherwise if you suggested the p239.
>>29809627
What dont you like about the CZs out of curiosity?
>>29809643
I don't know, I shot a cz75b a long time ago and I wasn't feeling it at all, the grip felt funny. Maybe I'll try one again soon to gauge my reaction once more.
It's either that or an hk p2000sk if I ever do decide to buy a da/sa for conceal carry.
>>29809519
Thanks for the advice. Plastic is certainly tempting at the lower price.
>>29809670
huh, i think they fit me better than any other pistol that i've shot. guess i got funny hands.
>>29809736
>Plastic is certainly tempting at the lower price.
There's really no reason to get the p250 when the p320 is a thing. Then again, you have the occasional retard that tries to say good things about the p250 like anyone cares
>>29809754
Yeah I was looking at the 320 too, I don't know why I got hung up on the 250 instead.
How good is that steyr shit? It looks like sin but I bet it shoots really nice
>>29807210
>fpbp
At least one of each, OP
>>29807472
OOH, A CLEVER LITTLE BITCH
>>29808647
>>29809519
>After the notorious quality control issues they had with the TSA contract I wouldn't go with the 250
Old news. Quality control isn't a concern at all anymore, just depends on whether you want a hammer or striker-fired pistol.
>>29809754
>Then again, you have the occasional retard that tries to say good things about the p250 like anyone cares
Some people prefer hammers, get over it you mall ninja faggot.
>>29807199
But that picture is backwards. You cannot troll me.
>>29807472
all i had to do was look at the responses....
>>29809445
I know what you're saying and I'm actually a big DAO fan and I can shoot some DAO pistols as well as or better than anything else, but to the average gun owner, a trigger that's light, has a short travel and crisp break is preferable and easier to shoot than a trigger that's long and heavy.
I made that image to explain a Glock firing system to gun newbies, or to 1911 users who think every gun needs a manual safety.
>>29809627
>literally the size of a glock 19
The original West German P225 was a little thinner and a little shorter in height. It's also quite a bit lighter than the P239, aka the brick on a stick.
>>29813897
Well aren't you a smart cookie Mr. Tripfag
>>29808233
Second strike?
>>29809461
what is a sig p239
also, i own a p6/p225 and love it
>>29808233
Handguns are more diverse than you believe.
>Striker gives you consistent trigger pull but usually has no second strike
The Walther P99 shatters this misconception.
>they also tend to be more cost effective.
I have no idea why you think that. There's nothing inherently more costly about building a hammer-fired handgun.
>Hammer gives you DA/SA but they have a higher bore axis.
Again, there are exceptions. The Sig P320 is a striker-fired pistol with a much higher bore axis than hammer-fired Sig P938.
>Neither is more reliable because shit can get in your striker or hammer channel.
Actually, the hammer-fired guns do tend to be more reliable in muddy conditions, mostly because goop tends to get into the firing pin channel, clogging it up and killing the gun with no ability to clear it out by further pulling the trigger. With a hammer-fired pistol, the hammer is able to keep striking the firing pin until the channel is clear of debris.
>I honestly wouldn't worry about reliability unless you're considering a vp9 or 1911 which are both worst in their class.
You just went full retard.
>>29814210
Why doesn't your gun have a hammer? Deactivated?
>>29814268
or it's a DAO gun. double action only, spur of the hammer is chopped off.
>>29812769
>The Man Who Trolled The World
>>29814281
>DAO
>P225
I see you don't know anything about Sigs.
>>29807472
Haven't posted on /v/ in years and I hadn't seen this trick in awhile. I got got, dammit.
>>29814268
>>29814281
It has a hammer, just pulled back, i just cleared it for the photo and didnt decock it.
p6's from germany have a strange spurred hammer, but american 225's have a normal. Then there is the 225a1 which is new production
My sig P6 was police issue, and only cost me 400 bucks after FFL and extra mags tax and whatnot
>>29814505
Did you ever convert it to the lighter P225 hammer spring?
>>29814526
Nope, I was thinking of it, but the DA trigger pull really isnt TERIRIBLE, i mean its... not great either.
They sell a spring pack, and you can go to the range and try each spring out, to see if it will function reliably with whatever ammo you choose. i think it even goes down to like 16#... but a lot of people don't know thats the psring tension, that doesnt translate to actual trigger pull. IF I'm using my engineering right, then it'll be like a 9# or 8# DA trigger
>>29807199
striker fired are objectively better
>>29814724
My main problem with it isn't that it's bad - it's actually a very smooth DA trigger pull - but that it's different from every other Sig. If I pick up a Sig, I'm going to start staging the DA pull as if it were a 10 pound pull. That the P6 has a 12 pound pull screws me up.
>>29814740
Thats still like... you're opinion man
it all comes odwn to shooters choice in the end. What trigger do you like, what design is comfortable, what do you like to carry, where do you want to carry.
The gold rule is "go to a gun shop and finger fuck everything, and shoot something" always stands
>>29814756
Always makes me think like "oh shit this is heavy" every time I go to fire it and gives me that little few millisecond to know what im hitting.
...and i wont shoot myself in the leg because i dont have a safety and a 2# pull
>>29808233
>cz75
>high bore axis
Shiggy
All these comments about no second strike capabilities... Why does it matter?
You have two situations: 1) You're in combat, and you're not going to fuck around trying to double-strike or remember if it was just not loaded, or some other issue. You're going to rack the slide, or you're going to die. 2) You're not in danger. You can take the time to re-insert the cartridge into your mag after you rack the slide.
Am I missing something?
>>29814250
kimberfag detected
>muh 1911
>muh reliability
worst fighting pistol in modern times famalambobettybam
Trigger rankings
1) LEM
2) DAK
3) SAO
4) striker
5) Da/sa
6) DAO
>>29817537
>Am I missing something?
Retards trying to grab at things that hold no weight in an argument. I'm a huge fag for hammer fired guns but fuck this "double strike" marketing meme. It's stupid as shit, if my gun doesn't go off when I pull the trigger, I'm stripping that round the fuck out.
Hammers are tactile, strikers are not. Developing cadence shooting is much more intuitive with a hammer fired gun. I feel much more comfortable carrying a hammer fired gun. I prefer a consistent smooth trigger pull. Hence hk45c vTGS LEM
>>29818517
So you're saying striker triggers are too instantaneous?
>>29807230
That sounded better in your head didn't it?
>>29807199
Not exactly on topic: I never understand the appeal of the single action only pistols.
Why would I want to inhibit my rate of fire so much?
>>29818432
Exactly!
>>29807472
Not even mad
>>29807472
>>29807472
1KB. lol. and that file name, I ain't opening that shit up
>>29807485
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>>29808481
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>>29808872
>>29812769
>>29813897
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>>29819945
HAHAHAHA newfags
>>29809514
They make plenty in 9mm....makarov
>>29818404
>kimberfag detected
What the hell...? Why would you even think that?
>>29817537
>All these comments about no second strike capabilities... Why does it matter?
The normal protocol when you get a misfire is to rack the slide of your handgun, but if your off-hand is busy with other things (fighting off Trayvon Martin, bleeding all over the place, masturbating furiously, etc.), then the second strike capability does offer you the ability to try the dead round a second time without manipulating the slide. It's a rare, but real possibility.
>>29808872
This, I feel raped
I liked it
>>29820573
But anon what if....what if we were all in on it? What if we were waiting for someone like you to make a post like this? Maybe you are the one who has fallen for our collective ruse.
>>29818430
>Trigger rankings
>1) LEM
>2) DAK
>3) SAO
>4) striker
>5) Da/sa
>6) DAO
Does it look like I'm about to disagree with you, motherfucker?
>>29818517
>Hammers are tactile, strikers are not. Developing cadence shooting is much more intuitive with a hammer fired gun. I feel much more comfortable carrying a hammer fired gun. I prefer a consistent smooth trigger pull. Hence hk45c vTGS LEM
I have NO FUCKING IDEA what you're trying to say here. Hammers are tactile... right, so you can touch hammers, but you can't touch strikers. What the fuck does that have to do with shooting handguns, though? Or are you one of those people who reaches up and thumbs the hammer back on his DA/SA pistol to get an easier pull?
What the fuck does "cadence shooting" mean? Or rather, what do you THINK it means? Shooting guns is not dancing. The split time in between shots is not a "cadence," and since trigger behavior overlaps between striker-fired pistols and hammer-fired pistols, the fact that one would be more "intuitive" to this is ridiculous.
>>2981965
It's not that you don't understand the appeal of SAO pistols. You simply don't understand SAO pistols whatsoever. Do you actually think that you have to thumb the hammer back on a 1911 in between every shot?
>>29807199
Most quality DA/SA have very nice single action triggers. I like my berettas single action better than my glocks "safe action"
>>29821265
You mean what if you were all just [pretending to be retarded? I don't dislike newfags, I was one once. I just enjoy pointing at you and laughing when you fall for one of the old trolls and this was a very gentle but old troll.
Successful ruse man was very successful. 10/10
>>29807472
I've never been shitposted on this hard before in my entire life
>>29818517
>you touch the hammer to shoot it
>>29809461
>the sig sauer System
Jesus Christ
>>29818430
This.
