Iraqi gun market.
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I might have posted these pictures here before but for some reason I can't fucking remember.
Anyways here are some pictures of the gun market in Baghdad
>>29791118
>that 74 mag
how much 5.45 shit is on the market in Baghdad?
>>29791126
I'm not sure but a 762x39 steel mag costs 30$
>>29791118
What are the prices like in Baghdad compared to other countries
>>29791148
>selling ammo out of a Pakol.
Muh dik
>>29791166
Prices of what Exactly?
Here's a sterling for 500$
A tokaerv for 1000$
>>29791191
Will I be able to purchasea Valmet for under 1k if I look hard enough
>>29791118
>>29791165
How much are the grenades
>>29791165
A table full of hand grenades, how Quaint.
>>29791148
>762x39 steel mag costs 30$
$30 US?
What a rip off
>>29791203
If you find one, yes.
An RPG launcher for 400$
>>29791205
80$.
This thing for 900$
M4 for 6000$
>>29791235
Are you Kurdish? Also what's the most interesting thing you've seen at these markets?
XDDDDDD
for 3500$
>>29791273
Yes I am.
Probably the German handout G36 rifles.
Peshmarga soldiers are so poor they sold their rifles just to get some money.
>>29791276
Forgot picture
This thing for 200$
Maverick 88 for 700$ unfortunately no picture of it
>>29791387
Is that a legit ppsh?
>>29791477
Yes it is...
>>29791387
I heard those things drums are a pain in the ass to load and have high tendency to jam
>>29791135
How much was that NiB W German P229?
And what were the glocks going for?
>>29791128
are those all Glock 19s?
>>29791235
>>29791262
Why the fuck is it so expensive? I don't think the locals don't have enough money for that M4 combined. How much is ammo?
>>29791511
I don't know about the p229
But glocks go for 2500$ usually
>>29791378
>sold their rifles
How much were they going for? Also are you peshmerga?
Why is the Tokarev 5 times as expensive as the PPSH? I can understand western arms being way more expensive then Eastern surplus due to supply, but it seems like price on handguns is high considering the price of rifles and explosives.
>>29791534
I thought weapons were supposed to be cheap in Iraq
>>29791531
I've no idea but if I had a budget of $6000 for a rifle it def. wouldnt be for an M4.
>>29791262
Is that a Russian M4 clone?
>>29791506
Isn't owning weapons illegal in Iraq? Also, do you own any?
>>29791570
>Isn't owning weapons illegal in Iraq?
not at all, and since the american invasion and all hell breaking out there weapons sell like bread.
>>29791378
>Probably the German handout G36 rifles.
There was a report here in Germany about that, our government actually stopped complaining after the Peshmerga said that it won't happen again and believes the kurds.
Do you have current pictures of G36 being sold?
>>29791584
So we really did free the shit out of Iraq.
>>29791527
Yes, but some are cheap Turkish knockoffs.
>>29791531
It's probably stolen or something idk, but that's what they usually cost.
556 is 80¢ per round
>>29791548
I'm just a dude that's still in highschool.
(No I'm not underage)
And probably for 2500-3500$ or something.
>>29791558
Basically because the demand on pistols is higher.
Like people over here seriously think that a pistol is more dangerous than a rifle.
They say you can suppress it and conceal it and that it's more prestigious to have a pistol
>>29791563
They used to be alot cheaper than now.
Ever since Isis has entered, the prices skyrocketed.
>>29791568
The seller says it's a Colt.
>>29791570
Gun laws in Iraq are ridiculous.
Will explain next post
>>29791593
>free the shit
more like there's an atmosphere of being invaded by the US again
this time they want to be prepared.
>>29791199
how come the TT-33 goes for twice as much as a sterling? They look more expensive or something?
>>29791605
They are preparing for Isis not the USA
>>29791592
The police actually did close the gun market in erbil for that reason.
>>29791605
Are you retarded?
>>29791596
What does Iraqi Kurdistan think about the PKK and YDP?
>>29791625
>The police actually did close the gun market in erbil for that reason.
I thought they were just making the press shut up, ever thought they would change something. Is it still possible to get G36?
>>29791596
Are you talking 80c as in 0.80USD or are you talking 80c of whatever sand currency they use over there?
>>29791534
jebus, what ever happened to AK47 and can of ammo for 2 goats and 3 chickens?
Prolly doesnt help the US went over there and disarmed everyone besides 1 rifle per household.....(per what Travis "butterfly" Haley)
>>29791624
See>>29791596
Ok so about the gun laws.
Owning a weapon is legal as long as
Its not used by the military/semi auto.
Buying/selling/making a gun is illegal.
But getting a license is easy.
So when you go to register your G17 at the police station they don't ask you where you got it from.
That's why there are no real gun stores
>>29791651
most the people dont really abide by absurd gun laws, if they have the opportunity they will buy more.
>>29791646
Freedom currency
>>29791652
So what's stopping me from not bothering and registered it with all the chaos going on in that country I doubt they care.also how do they get box new Glocks and hs2000.I can get how they are able to get tokarevs and teriq pistol.
Is it true pellet guns are entirely illegal than fire arms?
>>29791720
No, they cost 100-200$ and anyone can get them
>>29791693
Absolutely nothing other than maybe your conscience.
And I have no idea how do they get them.
Smuggling probably
Since self defense is a human right, we should be smuggling crates of Glocks into Iraq for sale to the people.
>>29791783
no one is stopping you, but good luck communicating with the local people since you dont know arabic.
>>29791693
Glocks prolly come from cops and Saudi.
The M4 and 92fs are from dead soldiers.
The german guns are from donations and crooked israeli navy.
knockoff glocks are from iran and turkey
old guns from WWII are from that time, or from israel and dead russians from afgan conflicts
bling bling is from saddam's palace.
I wanna say those grenades are russian mini's but its possible they are M67's. Cant tell because they scraped off all the writing. The pineapple is def US from WWII, or old stock donation to iraqi army .
>>29791801
Marhabaan
Ismi joseph, wa ismuka?
Kayfa hal?
That's all I know :(
>>29791803
Your prices are backwards as hell how the hell is a pistol more dangerous than an RPG or hand grenade
>>29791872
Probably just more useful to folks going about their day there.
>>29791881
>he doesn't cc grenades
>>29791872
>>29791881
>Basically because the demand on pistols is higher.
Like people over here seriously think that a pistol is more dangerous than a rifle.
They say you can suppress it and conceal it and that it's more prestigious to have a pistol
>>29791872
im not the tripfag. Im just taking a guess at that guys question.
>>29791955
Is it true they're more scared of pistols over there too? I heard rumors when troops were over there in full and pointed rifles at dudes shouting orders, the dudes were like yeah whatever. But when they aimed pistols at them they took it more serious because something about execution vibes.
>>29791221
I honestly kinda like that....
>>29792008
Officers and Saddam's regime, bruh.
>>29791128
>fat guys selling guns
The more things change I guess
>>29792008
If a bunch of soldiers have to march into a city toting full body armor and machine guns, they're afraid that the populous can fuck them up. If they stroll in with pistols, the populous knows that they think that they can just execute someone and not worry about consequences as hey didn't bring heavy weapons because they're confident that they're in control
>>29792077
Makes good sense in some kind of basic way.
>>29791643
Yes it's still possible.
>>29791642
Kurdistan's government isn't too friendly with the PKK and other.
Mostly because Kurdistan's government likes to suck Turkey's dick
>>29791570
I'm 18, the legal age to own a gun is 19 in Kurdistan and 25 in Iraq.
My father has a hi power though
>>29792450
>hi power
I like his style
>>29791135
>that lack of trigger control
Triggered
>>29791118
Thanks for doing this OP, this kind of content is what makes /k/ great.
>>29792450
>G36
Need, I don't even care if they suck, they're sexy as fuck
>>29792471
Thanks dude.
He got the gun in 1985 for the price of a Volkswagen Passat
>>29792561
Are those cars cheap as hell there or is it that expensive?
do need a permission to own one in iraq?
>>29791531
>Why the fuck is it so expensive?
People really need guns in Iraq. It is not like in North America or Europe where a gun is like a fishing rod.
>>29793039
The gun was as expensive as you can imagine.
Since it was also Saddam's favorite pistol that add alot of value to it.
>>29793070
According to the laws you can bring any gun you like to Iraq and carry it normally as long as you go to a police station to register it first
>>29793105
thank you. and sorry for the horrible spelling.
>>29793105
Interesting. Did Sadam ever try confiscating guns?
>>29793105
great thread OP. Prices around the world are funny things to get a grip on and your thread is very helpful.
>>29793200
Thanks dude.
>>29793154
No he didn't.
Because it would've never worked
Those prices are insane. 80 for one grenade? In Bosnia you can get two dozen for that much.
>>29793292
>In Bosnia
There is no war in Bosnia.
>>29793292
I can't even get within a mile of a live grenade.
>>29793292
Read the thread, the gun market is in full ISIS invasion panic prices mode.
>>29793292
But can you own this thing for 350$
>>29793341
Or this thing for ~4000$
>>29793341
That fucking carry handle. 10/10
>>29793354
where the fuck is the trigger for the M203?
>>29793309
There was and where you were at in the country depends how much you paid for things. Most expensive things were medicine and fresh water. Guns and ammo were everywhere(in the area I'm from) because it was a big partisan strong area during ww2 so we inherited some of their stockpiles.
>>29793317
Sad day :( they are much fun.
>>29793322
I did and I understand but still shits cray
>>29793341
>>29793354
I feel so sorry for them but something is better than nothing, m70s range from 200-500 where I'm from, cheaper if you know the person.
>>29793368
It happened here in in America for less.
>>29791118
Great thread, I always wonder what gun life is in other countries.
>>29791565
If you wanted to spend 6000$ on a gun your options are
1-M4 carbine in good condition
2-PKM machine gun
3-M249
4-A gold and silver 1911/Hi power
>>29793763
are you an iraqi? i don't understand how you took these pictures. Are you involved at all in the war?
>>29793787
Iraqi, kurd, living in erbil, the first few pictures were taken by a friend.
The others I got from Iraqi Facebook gun groups
>>29793763
How much do M240B's go for?
>>29793787
And I'm still in highschool so no I'm not involved
>>29793853
Never seen one of those for sale.
>>29793846
>>29793857
wow man. This is some shit to be grouping up in. I guess it has some good sides for someone who is into /k/ shit but the downside is definitely not worth it.
is erbil a relatively safe place? that citadel think looks cool as fuck. I have a lot of respect for kurds for standing up for themselves. Are you planning to join up if this shit is still going on when you are old enough?
>>29793876
Why is there no cottage industry making handguns?
>>29793913
The city of erbil is completely safe but the surrounding areas are not.
If you want to come to erbil for tourism you can probably see the whole thing in less than 3 days.
And I can't join anything unless shit really starts happening since I'm the only son of the family
>>29793926
Illegal.
Even modifying your own gun is illegal.
So for example I can't remove the magazine safety on my dad's hi power
>>29793987
what kind of guns do you own ?
>>29793973
you should find a wife or fuck your sister if you have one get her pregnant and leave to fight for the /k/ube
>>29793999
No guns fag for now.
>>29794009
>fuck your sister.
YES
stopped reading after that
>>29794024
well i mean that you have access to.
how likely is it that your family will have another son?
would you even want to fight?
do you ever see like really operator dudes on the street?
why are kurds so moderate and based?
>>29794024
What do the kurds think of ameribros over there?
>>29793973
I'm sure the ISIS recruiters wont care if you're an only son
>tfw there will never be backroom machine gun sales men in my home town.
Feels bad man :(
Not illegal, only if you change the FUNCTION of the hand gun, removed the mag disconnect on a few of mine, never plan on selling them, so no issue.
>>29793987
Who the fuck is enforcing the rules?
>>29794024
If he wants someone to fight Isis than why doesn't he do it himself.if you don't wanna go than that's your choice
>>29794221
iraq still has a government and a police force and they use their status to extort money from you if you are breaking the rules.
>>29794274
Why not bribe someone into giving you an 'official license to manufacture' and start a handgun shop?
>>29793876
strange
>>29791165
Counterfeit Glock 19s.
>>29796202
What makes you say that?
>>29794047
I would like to fight if there was an actual military.
I'm not interested in some stupid milita made by some 75 year old guy in a funny hat.
>why are Kurds so moderate
Probably because we are less religious than arabs.
>do you ever see operators
No
>>29794048
Unlike Arabs which think that the Americans invaded Iraq.
Kurds consider it a liberation.
So we actually like you guys and not a single kurd I know wishes death upon americans.
>>29794212
Where are you from?
>>29794221
No one.
I didn't do it because I don't want to do anything illegal even if no one will ever know
>>29794274
The police over here haven't been payed for 4 months.
They don't even care anymore.
>>29796202
Some of the glocks are real Austrian glocks.
Some of them are cheap Turkish pieces of crap that shoot this weird round.
People call it "7mm"
I'll try to get pictures of it
>>29797147
>People call it "7mm"
I bet it's 7x62x25, that would be bad ass to own.
How is day to day life changed by the lack of motivated law enforcement?
>>29797256
I guess it's some sort blank ammo
http://www.trakhes.com/tra/showthread.php?t=54564
Similar to the ones in this website
>>29791118
Any shotguns m8?
>>29797606
Pretty much all of them are cheap Turkish shotguns.
By cheap I mean 100$ semi auto plastic shotgun.
I just wouldn't trust it with my life
any mosin nagants? Just wondering how much they cost compared to the 200$ average in the US.
>>29798154
Believe it or not mosins aren't that popular at all over here.
SMLE Enfields are alot more popular than mosins and they cost 100-200$
>>29791165
Hanger Nades!
>>29793322
>>29793368
Panic Buying 2: ISIS Bugaloo
>>29791118
Wow, you can be sure many of those glocks were donated by Western countries to Iraqi security forces; the people selling them probably used the cash to get to Europe.
>>29798519
Actually no.
What they do is they sell their glocks for 2500$+
And they buy themselves a cheap pistol like the Beretta 1951.
>>29798691
Complete bullshit. They buy and sell surplus all day, every day.
Who the fuck do you think your audience is? Half of us are veterans.
>>29798709
He said the people use the money to go to Europe.
I said that they don't do that but instead just use some of it to get a cheaper gun and they keep the rest.
I didn't comment on where I think the guns came from
>>29791584
It's illegal in the north, been trying to find someone to sell a gun in Erbil and Sulaymaniya. Everyone told me you need to be a resident and also have a special permission.
Wasn't a problem to buy mags, acogs or handguards tho
So it's totally legal in the other parts?
>>29793973
>The city of erbil is completely safe but the surrounding areas are not
That's bullshit m8, the whole fucking north is safe. There's been more incidents and bombings in Turkey in the last years, than in Iraqi-Kurdistan.
People always tell stories about taxi drivers taking them to Mossul to sell them to Da'ish, stuff like that. But it's bullshit, there's Pesh checkpoints like every 20km, and it's impossible for civies to get even close to the frontline.
>>29791646
They use Dinar normally, but everyone's happy if you give them $
>>29791378
>Pesh are poor
Seriously, why are you posting so much bullshit? They're not poor, they get a lot fucking money.
And there's been like 2 or 3 G36 missing since they were delivered by Germany, it's not like eveyones selling them once they get them.
>>29791592
Don't believe that bullshit, it's nothing more than 2 or 3 that have been sold. There's a shitload of Peshmerga soldiers in Kurdistan, and whoever is issued on one of the G36 or G3 is fucking happy and keeps it. Probably just some single cases of people who really needed money and tried to sell theirs. You're not gonna find a picture of one of them on a gun bazar, for that reason.
>>29793973
>The city of erbil is completely safe but the surrounding areas are not.
That's probably what your mum tells you, so you don't leave Erbil to play outside and maybe meet some PKK or something
>>29798862
The gun market in erbil is literally 15 minutes away from my home.
Here's my father's carry licence.
As you can see it clearly says Kurdistan government.
So please stop making shit up
>>29798878
And here we see another person making shit up.
Look dude.
Some areas near erbil are not 100% safe.
If you don't believe why don't you come here and see for yourself.
>>29798917
Source pls?
There is a peshamrga office 30 feet away from my home.
They don't even have pen and paper to write with.
Don't believe me?
That's your problem not mine
>>29798862
Yes, it is totally legal in the gulf region. However, it is illegal to have more than one magazine. You can own full auto but you can't have more than one 30-rd mag.
>>29798932
>If you don't believe why don't you come here and see for yourself.
I've been to fucking Bashur over 5x in the last 2 years, that's why i'm saying that.
>>29798932
Well i've been arguing with people in Erbil over that, i didn't believe the Pesh actually get a lot of money. But they actually do, better paid than most other jobs in Kurdistan.
>>29798936
Please for the love of God stop making shit up.
The Kurdistan gun law says that you can have only 120 rounds for each rifle/pistol
>>29798932
>father's carry license
I said they told me you have to be resident and own a permission, how exactly did i make bullshit up? I guess your father is a resident, and you just posted his carry license
>>29798951
He's not making shit up, he's just mistaking the laws under US occupation with actual Iraqi laws.
One rifle + one mag was what the US allowed the Iraqis under their occupation
>>29798951
We went house-to-house using a one mag SOP. Nothing made up about it, sport. This was down in the Gulf region.
>>29798954
Yeah but you said it's illegal in the North.
I said it wasn't.
>>29798959
>>29798963
I'm not sure if you 2 are aware of this or not.
But it's 2016.
I don't know about 10 year old gun and I don't care about them.
>>29798951
So how easy is it to fight ISIS now as a foreigner?
>>29798970
Dude, i said it's illegal if you're not a resident or don't own a license. And you just proofed me right. Like i said, I've been desperately trying to find out how it works in Kurdistan, because i've been interested in it and thought i might find a fancy gun for a few dinar.
And i'm really interested why you think it's somehow unsafe around Erbil, i've been fucking everywhere there. From sully to duhok, from soran to the border of mossul. also some tours through the mountains in qandil and gare.
It's safe fucking everywhere, not a single problem or even a story about one. In and between the cities the Pesh keep everything safe, and the PKK is keeping watch over the mountains. No problems, anywhere. like i said, it's more unsafe in Turkey. Hell, East Turkey was a fucking mess, those cops and the army are fucking rude lunatics who harrass everyone who's not a resident and also pure Turkish.
>>29798973
If you can afford to plop down the $3 grand for unrestricted airfare then you can join the effort to fight the IS. You don't get paid but you get 3 hots and a cot.
>>29798973
Easy, just join Peshmerga. They have foreigner units, like the "ISIS hunting club". Those are some retarded facebook warrior rednecks, but there's also some serious ones.
>>29798982
It's about 1700 to Erbil. Are foreigners even fighting anymore?
I don't speak Arabic but picked up other languages easy enough.
>>29798984
Not so fast. They stopped accepting Westerners. Now you have to join peripheral forces aligned with them.
>>29798992
Kurds speak Kurdish dude
>>29798995
Really? Well YPG are still taking volunteers
>>29799009
It really says something about the mindset of western men. We crave brilliance, fortitude and bravery. I've never encountered a black man on this venture. Everyone was mostly white.
Just a funny side fact, i also met the British and German soldiers who work as instructors for the Pesh.
They act like really tough guys because they are in Iraq, but actually they just hang their balls in the pool most of the day. They live in 5 star hotels in Erbil, probably one of the safest cities in the middle east. They train the Pesh for like 6 hours a day, the rest of the day they drink booze at the pool or hang around in the sauna.
>>29799021
That was my ranger school impression as well. No blacks.
>>29799022
>do shooty tooty stuff for funz
>hang out in hotels for the rest of the day
sounds like a decent life
>>29799022
You have some weird fetish with Erbil. You mention it in every single fucking post.
Stop being a weirdo.
>>29799021
That's not true, there's actually quite a few blacks in YPG. I know one from NY, also a real puerto rican who grew up in the Bronx. And i've seen several more on photos.
Also, one of the volunteers who got KIA was a black girl from Germany. Pic related.
>>29799039
>You have some weird fetish with Erbil
Maybe because it's slightly related to the topic u fag
>>29799043
Just so you know, you are a weirdo. You're the guy people in public talk about.
>>29799052
you mean they talk about people who post anonymously on a image board, talking about Iraqi-Kurdistan? what's your point
>>29799055
Embrace your ignorance. It seems to make you happy.
>>29799061
>ignorance
wat
>>29799062
Exactly.
>>29792008
I remember reading that they know that the guys with pistols are the big wigs and call the shots. So a dude with a rifle has no authority, but the guy with the pistol tells all those guys what to do and will really fuck up your day.
>>29799039
>>29799052
>>29799061
>>29799073
>you mention a city in iraq in every single post in a thread about iraq, stop being a weirdo
>>29799100
Fine. Forget I said anything.
>>29799134
well it's sunday, would still be interesting to understand your weird logic
>>29799082
Maybe because every idiot can get a rifle in those countries, but only people with some authority carry pistols? So they assume everyone with a pistol is an officer?
>>29799167
Hello, Stretch Armstrong.
>>29799180
How old are you, 50? Had to google that shit
>>29791118
>https://twitter.com/EngKhabbab/status/721619377263624192
>OP is full of shit
>>29799193
45 but close. I'm impressed.
>>29799240
45 and trolling on 4chan? I'm not impressed, just a bit saddened
>>29799230
I don't recall ever saying that I took the pictures myself
>>29799268
how can you know they're totally legal then? maybe that's a part of the market only people with actual licenses can access. you posted before that that's what you need in the area where you live.
>>29799278
How about actually reading the thread you dumb motherfucker.
>>29791652
Selling any weapon is ILLEGAL.
You get the license if you have the weapon.
There is no such thing as a license to buy a weapon
>>29798709
>Half of us are veterans.
LOL, there's like a dozen vets on this entire board. /k/ is 90% fat NEETs that have never left their basement.
>>29799309
This.
>>29799250
Because once you turn 45, your Sundays should consist of Reader's Digest and Jeopardy re-runs.
No. GFY.
>>29799309
This is untrue. I've engaged dozens upon dozens of fellow military joes. There were even people from the Navy.
>>29799331
No, but i think most people around 45 are mature enough to not enjoy pointless shit like trolling on 4chan and would more likely actually post stuff on topic. Seems more like you're the weirdo around here. Besides all the others ofc.
Stay mad, gramps.
>>29799349
When you're my age and a drunken paratrooper to boot, you don't give a fuck what anyone thinks. You have fun.
Don't go away mad, kid. Just go away.
Sher, do you speak Sorani or Kurmanji? Would a Kurmanji speaker be able to understand people in Sulaymaniyah and vice versa?
>>29799344
You were being trolled by fat NEETs that know all the mil terms.
>>29799009
Kinda. Due to the KRG sucking Turkeys dick - to steal from our Kurdish anon here - the boarder from Iraq to Syria is 100% closed. Bunch of YPG Westerners were recently arrested and detained for I can't remember his long, as they tried to make their way home
This happens from time to time apparently and it should open up again soon.
At least I hope so. Organised a group /k/ trip and everything..
>>29799349
>No, but i think most people around 45 are mature enough to not enjoy pointless shit like trolling on 4chan
Welcome to 4chan, newfriend
>>29799385
You feel me, don't you
>>29799384
The border is closed since years, if you read interviews with people who fought for YPG, every single on of them say they're being smuggled over the Tigris at night. It's open for civilian and trade traffic, from time to time tho.
And from time to time, some of the volunteers get caught. Happened last year before the 3 Brits got caught this year, one US citizen, one Canuck, one Spaniard.
One guy said on their way back, they were just brought over the border near Shingal/Sinjar. YPG is allowed to cross the border there, as they are fighting (or have been fighting) there, too.
>>29799009
>Kurds speak Kurdish dude
There is no "Kurdish" language. The differences between Sorani and Kurmanji are vast enough to be considered separate languages according to linguists.
>>29799349
>grrr! Everyone should be serious and fucking boring 100% of the time!
>I hate fun and the people who engage in it!
Naa mate, you're the codger here.
Fuck off my board
>>29799309
>>29799321
>sincerely, people who have been on this board for 2 weeks
>>29799396
True, but this time it's like, super cearel u guys
Check out theLionsOfRojava.com, official page for western volunteers
>>29799400
Even Kurds just call it Kurdî, the ones speaking of Kurmancî or Soranî are mostly foreigners. It's more like different dialects. Kurds from Turkey and Iraq can communicate, with some difficulties maybe, but it's very close to each other.
>>29799406
LOL, I was on /k/ when Donut was straight.
>>29799406
You're new here so I'll explain it to you. There are a lot of veterans on /k/. Most of the time we choose to not participate. That's because many of the topics are video game or fantsy bullshit. Develop a topic with actual military involvement and you will find us.
>>29799421
Are you actually Kurdish and speaking from your own experience?
>It's more like different dialects.
That would be quite a stretch considering that Kurmanji has gender, cases, and split ergativity, whereas Sorani lacks all of them. Calling them both Kurdî has more to do with Kurdish nationalism than linguistics.
>>29799456
Û ez ne kurd im but I'd like to learn it (Kurmanji) one day.
>>29799365
No.
I speak both but for the first few years I was in erbil couldn't understand a single word.
Even the simplest words like water and lunch are different.
>>29799456
>>29799421
Officially speaking both of them are called kurdish.
But the normal person says kurmanji/badini and sorani
>>29799456
No, but i speak some Kurmancî. And have been to Başûr, has never been a problem talking to anyone. Not sure if they just all speak some Kurmancî tho, i've always been sure the two kinds of Kurdish are just very close.
I'm sure there's very, very few differences in grammar, are you sure Soranî doesn't have gender, cases and split ergativity? I had some Soranî lessons in the past, but i'm not 100% sure. Maybe OP could clear up on this.
In the beginning, i always made the differentation between the two when talking, but people always replied there's only one Kurdish language, and referred to it as Kurdî themselves
>>29799477
Water is Av in Kurmancî, what's the word in Soranî? I think it's the same actually
Are you sure it's not just because of the countries where it's spoken? Like, Kurds from Turkey using a lot of loan words in Kurmancî, and Iraqi Kurds using many Arabic ones?
>>29799492
It's "aw" as in pound.
And you're kind of right.
For example Kurds in duhok say "seyare" which means car in Arabic.
But in Diyar bakir they say "erebe" which means car in Turkish.
So even though both are kurmanji.
They are very influenced by Arabic and Turkish
>>29799529
>erebe
Is like the actual Turkish word is pronounced with a strong Kurdish dialect, it's actually Araba. I laughed when i discovered how many "kurmancî" words are actually just Turkish ones pronounced Kurdish. Like "Mutfax", which is actually Mutfak in Turkish.. kitchen. YPG officials are often talking about Taxems in interviews, also just the Turkish word Takem.
>>29799553
Same thing in sorani.
They literally use the same Arabic word but make it sound kurdish.
Believe it or not there are even some English words in the sorani language.
For example "autism" in kurdish is "otîzm"
Which is pronounced "oh-tee-zim"
>>29799553
And 'matbax' come from Arabic.
kitchen in Arabic = مطبخ 'matbakh'
>>29799400
There's linguists who say Bavarian and German are different languages, but it's the same fucking language. Bavarian is even available as a language on Wikipedia, no idea why the fuck they did that. Probably some Bavarian nationalists.
Bavarian is just German how it's spoken by people drunk and without teeth, maybe it's the same with the different Kurdish ones.
>>29799577
What's Kurmancî for "You autistic fuck"?
Bit of a long shot here but I don't suppose you can recommend any phrase books or learning resources can you? Especially with a military/medical leaning? I have a couple of basic pdfs but I never know how to get the proper pronunciations
>>29791872
They're seen as a status symbol on the middle east. The way they see it is that only important people carry pistols while rifles are for any regular grunt.
>>29799349
You should really stop posting
>>29800292
Too bee honestt I don't think there are any books like that.
"Hey barazi autsim"
I don't think there is a word for "autistic" in kurdish.
You just say "you person who had autism fuck"
A guy just posted this for sale for 3200$
Anyone has a clue where he got it from?
>>29801185
Famas.
Stolen from French NATO forces maybe?
>>29801227
>lol i'm le epic memer
fuck off or help that guy identifying that rifle u cunt
>>29801254
>>29801227
It's an HS VHS.
>>29801254
Anon pls
>>29801185
Lebanon might be possible i guess
>>29801185
>>29801264
The original HS VHS is in use by the Iraqi and Syrian army right now, so they probably got it from one of those guys.
>>29801185
>>29801264
That's right, didn't notice. Well it seems to be used by both Iraq and Syria, guess that's your answer
Would you fuck a trap, kurdbro?
>>29794169
Not with that attitude.
>>29791872
Prices aren't based on danger, but rather demand. Nobody wants to CC a hand grenade or OC an RPG in their daily life, but a pistol makes allot of sense.
>>29801385
>Nobody wants to CC a hand grenade
I beg to differ
>>29799040
lol and nothing of value was lost.
Thank you to the soldier that shot this turd.
>>29801486
>>29801510
>soldier
you mean a retard that joined ISIS cuz muh allah
>>29801541
who care he fragged a commie, 1 less scumbag terrorist walking this earth
>>29801554
well that's true
>>29801510
>>29801554
wow, so edgy. stay mad about people who actually did something important in their life, down there in momma's basement.
that girl was worth more than your whole degenerate family, commie or not.
>>29801554
That commie left Europe to fight ISIS in Syria, just stfu you piece of shit. Who cares what her beliefs were.
$30 for an AK mag?
I thought they gave that shit out in kindergarten over there.
>>29801572
tldr desu
>>29801592
beliefs? you mean retardation?
>>29801554
>fragged
you're fat neckbeard scum anyways
>>29801592
spit and shit on that commie's corpse
pile them high
ALLAHU AKBAR!!!
>>29801616
does your mommy know you're using her computer again?
captcha: choose the tricycles
What do Kurdish women think of Americans? Would it be difficult to pickup a Kurdish qt3.14? The Kurds seem more secular to me.
holy shit this thread is fantastic
>>29799230
read
>>29793846
you fucking retarded shit
>>29801335
Yes.
If I could find one that is actually passable.
>>29801775
Kurds are secular yes but it mostly depends on the family of the girl.
Your best bet is to go look for a girl that is from sulaymaniyah.
The people over there are much more open minded and sophisticated than other kurdish cities
>>29803280
>Your best bet is to go look for a girl that is from sulaymaniyah.
Dude what?
If you want a nice Kurdish gf, go to Germany, Belgium or France. There's a shitload of Kurds there, they speak English + the specific country's language, and are probably more open minded than any girl you'd find innadessert.
Problem with girls from muslim countries, even the less traditional ones or the ones who grew up in Europe, is they want to marry you right away after a few dates. They all want to get married and have kids as soon as possible, and once they're slightly in love, they want to chain you up.
>>29791118
Are you using toiletpaper OP? I know they use water and hands in Iraq and Syria
>>29791118
>>29804278
I did research, this man speaks the truth.
Hereby i declare Tripfag OP's name shall be "Poo-poo fingers" from now on.
>>29804278
>>29804347
Depends on what kind of toilet you have.
If you have the one which Is literally a hole in the ground, you use hand+water
If you have a real toilet, you use toilet paper
>>29804365
So do you use your hand or not?
>>29804278
>>29804347
>>29804365
>>29804424
Doesn't matter, poo-poo fingers is a thing now.
But to be fair, i had to try that once in Brazil. A lot of indians do that, even in the cities. And after long discussion and hillarious displaying, i tried it. If you use the right technique, it's actually pretty cool. And not like you get actual shit on your hands. Feels way cleaner afterwards. Also, the human body is made to shit squatting on the ground. Sitting on a toilet, there's always a little amount of feces remaining in your intestine. Squatting brings it all out, and using some water in your hands to clean up afterwards gives you a real good feeling.
Every proctologist can confirm this.
>>29804474
How the fuck does that thing work? Do you like manually rinse your shit down the hole?
>>29804424
Depends on what's available.
But definitely real toilets if they are there.
>>29804559
After you complete shitting you use the bucket or hose to remove what ever shit is remaining there.
After that you clean what's remaining with your hands.
It truly is disgusting
>>29804559
What? No, you just squat and shit. Then you take some tab water, like from the one on the right, and "flush" it down.
Then you take some water in your hand, hold it under your anus, and splash it untill it's clean. Once almost everything is gone, you can also just wash the area. And then you use a shitload of soap to wash your hands, even though you don't actually touched shit. But it helps to get over the dirty caveman feeling the first few times.
If you think this is funny, you should have been there when the Brazilians showed me how to do it.
It's actual usefull to know that, you can basically shit everywhere and feel clean afterwards, all you need is a bottle of water.
The kids in Red Dawn take tons of toiletpaper with them once they go full guerilla, now i know that's 1st world bullshit. You don't need that.
>>29804474
>>29804559
>>29804603
>>29804625
If you think that's a 3rd world thing, those holes in the ground have been common in France and parts of Belgium untill the late 90s. You can still find some today, back then they were obligatory.
Disneyland Paris '97, a trip to hell.
>>29801185
it looks Chinese
>>29791118
Ever see any German WW2 stuff like MP-40, STG's, Lugers?
Whats the typical going prices on these?
>>29804987
I've never seen WW2 German guns.
Even if there were some around I don't think anyone will buy them since ammo is non existent.
And also because there is 0 gun culture here.
Like for example an early prototype STG that may cost 5000$+ in the USA would probably be sold for 100$ over here.
Since no one actually knows the gun's real value
>>29805090
Interesting... Great thread
Thanks for the reply
