Arsenal SAM7SF. Did I do gud?
>>29790239
Its good. Expect envious poorfags to tell you their WASR 10 is just as good.
>>29790239
noice
Why now an SLR-107? Why are so many people opting for this milled abortion "game changer"?
>>29790251not OP but what makes you say it's good?
>>29790258
>more accurate
>more durable
Git gud poorfag
>>29790239
Do you want a pat on the back?
I was reading reviews of different AKs because I decided I wanted to get into the AK game, and it seemed like this one was the best. I looked at Polish milled guns and VZ-58 and some definitive arms and stuff, looked at WASR's and everything too. I got this one because I decided I wanted something new, not parts kit mil surp, and quality, so I went with this one.
>>29790270
Oh, because they're ignorant tools. Thanks for answering my question.
>>29790277
Sorry didn't realize we couldn't talk about guns and gun purchases on here
>>29790280
Implying a thicker receiver isn't stronger than a thinner one and doesn't do a better job of keeping the barrel in place
>>29790289
>goes through with purchase
>then asks /k/ if he dun did gud
You might as well be an attention whore
>>29790280
How are they ignorant for wanting milled receiver vs stamped? Stamped receivers are just more abundant and therefore more people have them. They are more abundant because they are cheaper and faster to produce. The milled receivers, and particularly the SAM7SF's milled and forged receiver, are much higher quality.
>>29790270
>milled receiver
>more durable
Pick one
The Russians only made the initial AK-47s out of milled steel because they couldn't into stamping yet. Stamping is better in every way except adding weight and cost.
As for accuracy, your assertion is the first one I've ever seen made either way.
>>29790239
yes, probably.
>>29790239
If you can afford it, it's good, it's ridiculously well built. There isn't anything really 'special' about it, beyond being a very high quality AK rifle, but that's a good enough reason to get one if you want it.
>>29790258
>gamechanger
Just because it was vastly overblown by marketing doesn't mean it's not good.
>>29790280
If he wants a high quality AK, it's his choice, why do people want a Polytech Legend?
>>29790331
>implying modern Bulgarian AKs are made to the standards of old Russian AKs
You know the history of the old AK, but you don't know the Arsenal.
http://www.totalmateria.com/page.aspx?ID=CheckArticle&site=kts&NM=277
The receiver is hot-die hammer forged, at particularly high temperatures, the barrel is cold-hammer forged.
It's durable as hell, but also has good inherent accuracy.
>>29790331
And yes, milled receivers ARE more durable than stamped receivers, when it comes to AKs.
The thing is that stamped receivers are lighter and cheaper, while still being plenty durable.
However, with modern manufacturing, milled/forged receivers can be made VERY strong, and lighter than they used to be.
>>29790270
>more accurate
>more durable
>>29790305
>stronger than a thinner one
>do a better job of keeping the barrel in place
>>29790317
>The milled receivers, and particularly the SAM7SF's milled and forged receiver, are much higher quality.
Daily reminder to you inbred troglodytes that a milled AK receiver does nothing more than add a pound of weight and restrict your aftermarket margins to a laughable degree, and does not in any way equate to "muh quality". I don't know what's made the collective IQ of the AK crowd here drop 20 points in the past few months, but it's really, really sad.
>>29790239
you obviously don't value money seeing as though you wasted a bunch
>>29791304
>milled receivers ARE more durable than stamped receivers, when it comes to AKs.
You're right, the milled receivers will last to about 200k rounds instead of paltry 100k rounds of the the stamped receivers.
It's a total non-fucking issue because every other part partaking in the firing operation of the rifle will have been swapped out at least three times over (particularly the barrel) at the end of a fucking stamped receiver's life. So, really, unless you plan on pouring at least $25,000 worth of cheap, shitty Tulammo in your stamped AK, it means absolute shit.
>>29791319
The barrel, not the receiver, is what gives it better inherent accuracy.
>>29791322
I don't see the problem with getting something nice if you want it.
>>29791339
I'm not saying it makes it superior, all I'm saying is that what makes it different.
I wouldn't recommend it to most people, but if someone is willing to spend money on it, it's not a bad rifle.
Also it features a safety selector you can work with your thumb, which I'd argue is a good selling-point for someone who wants it.
The stock is pretty good in my opinion, so many would keep it I imagine.
>>29790239
>milled receiver
>>29790239
>right side snowflake folder
>milled
>7.62
>highest pricetag on production AK
I don't know how arsenal managed to take every bad design change to the AK and put it all in one gun. After all of that they didn't even bother to actually use the higher quality caliber that AK's come in (5.45 being literally better than 7.62 at everything except brush deflection).
I don't even know how anyone could ever rationalize the purchase of this gun using facts outside of abstract feelings of """"quality""""
>>29791339
Just want to add real quick that those lifespans are for sustained, full-auto fire.
A semi-auto stamped AK receiver being put under regular use (or hell, even more extreme use like combat conditions) will likely last longer than 100000 rounds.
So yeah, a milled receiver is stronger than a stamped one. But a stamped receiver is the most durable part of an AK anyway so it's a moot fucking point.
You just got a heavier gun for no reason based on fuddlore, OP. Congrats.
>Wanting something "quality."
>Not buying and SR-15
Newfag detected.
>>29790239
ya did gud OP. Ignore all the weak babbyback bitches that will attempt to sham your new King of AK47's with their excuse of "its a whole pound heavier"
considering the retard prices wasr10s go for these days, i think youd have to be an idiot to not just flat out buy an arsenal instead. if this was 2007, id say just get a $300 wasr and call it good. but today wasrs run fro $800, so you might as well spring the extra 200 bucks and get an arsenal
>>29793004
>1k of muzzle devices
terrifying
>>29793013
The issue is not that it's a pound heavier.
The issue is that it's a pound heavier for no tangible benefit to the end-user.
That pound is most of an extra mag you could be carrying instead
>>29793031
>today wasrs run fro $800
Try $650. You can nearly get two WASRs for the cost of an Arsenal and Hoppes won't take the fucking finish off a WASR.
>>29793004
This, but don't get the original SR-15 E3. URX that comes with it, the model with the integrated front sight, pisses me off so much because I run a light at 12'' on my other rifles and put the iron's behind it. You cannot do this with the SR-15 E3. Get the Mod 2.
>>29790239
>nearly $300 more than Arsenal SLR107FR-31
>$200 more than Definitive Arms DAKM-4150
You fell for the milled maymay, didn't you?
>>29790331
>Stamping is better in every way except adding weight and cost
Isn't it literally the exact opposite since milled weigh more and cost more.
you might have mixed it up lad
>>29793013
My AK is in the double digits of weight in terms of optics, lasers, light, etc.. It doesn't help that AKM's are already heavier than AR-15's to start off with. The issue is that milled AK's are several pounds heavier than an AR-15 without being able to do anything better.
>mfw people defending the milled receiver scam ITT
>mfw if they really believed in "muh sturdier receiver," they could buy Veprs for $500 less than the SAM7
>>29793131
>Not liking the URX 2
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
You can mount on the front sight itself and put another sight behind it just like any other rail. Kinda comfy desu as you can use the flip up sight mount to change batteries w/o removing the secondary front sight.
I'd definitely go for the mod 2 now. The gas system is absolutely superb and makes an already great gun better.
>>29793163
Not him but
>stamping is better in every way EXEPT for adding weight and adding cost
If we apply our thinking brains to this sentence we find that the alternative (milled) surpasses stamped receivers only in the departments of adding weight and cost to the rifle.
>>29793212
damn you're right i misread
>>29793198
I sold my Mod 1's URX 2 and replaced it with a KMR for a profit.
>>29793066
>The issue is that it's a pound heavier for no tangible benefit to the end-user.
you keep saying this even after you yourself have said the receiver will outlast stamped ones 2x.
also,
>heavier rifle will have less recoil impulse
>7.62 mag weighs little more than a pount
lol wut? Are you talking about carrying an extra empty magazine, or are you just fuckin retarded?
>>29793192
Shit, son, Century sells M70AB2 kit guns for less than WASRs is receiver strength is really such a concern...
>>29792915
Nothing wrong with right side folder. Can still fold with side mounted optics, can be folded/unfolded when sling across chest with ease. Depends on specific design, but must don't prevent firing when folded.
>>29793307
dont argue with that babbyback weakass bitch. He literally cannot get it in his head that that 1lb of difference does make an actual difference. He simply cannot fathom how these extra features will outweigh that 1lb of difference vs stamped. It is literally autism that has been carved into his simple mind since he was a child reading about the AK47 and its progression to the AKM.
>>29793295
>you keep saying this even after you yourself have said the receiver will outlast stamped ones 2x.
Before a stamped receiver fails, you will have jad to replace every other component on that gun 3-5 times, and will have put $25,000 on the low end down the pipe in ammunition alone. Nevermind the cost of completely rebuilding the gun several times. It's not an AR, son.
So yeah, unless you're running the gun full-auto all day every day this argument is dumb and pretty much theoretical.
>heavier rifle will have less recoil impulse
Won't argue there except to say recoil is pretty negligible anyway
>7.62 mag weighs little more than a pount
>lol wut? Are you talking about carrying an extra empty magazine, or are you just fuckin retarded?
Just threw a steel Hungarian mag loaded with 30 rounds of 124gr FMJ Barnaul onto my bathroom scale. Roughly 1.75lbs.
>>29793485
>So yeah, unless you're running the gun full-auto all day every day this argument is dumb and pretty much theoretical.
And if you're gonna do this, might as well get a gun purpose-built for it, like an RPK. Which, what do you know, have reinforced trunnions and receivers
>>29793485
>you will have jad to replace every other component on that gun 3-5 times
hammers and triggers and BCG's will last for a longggg fuckin time.
Now if you talkin about springs, yes, you gotta change them every 5-10k. That is the same on both rifles.
However, you do NOT ever need to replace the front trunnion on a milled rifle, simply because there isnt one to replace. On stamped rifles, trunnions will only last 30-50k before guaranteed shitting the bed. The longest one has lasted was ~70k before having to be replaced. This is fact.
Meanwhile, the Milled AK will last basically ad infinum, with the only thing needing to be changed besides parts breaking and springs, is the gas tube, after fuckin 200k rounds.
So while you claim that "Dey the same thing with no difference beside weight" even you yourself have acknowledged there ARE actual benefits of milled AKs.
>pretty much theoretical.
are you fuckin retarded or just delusional? I guess it doesnt matter how many times I explain this to you, you are simply 'stuck on stupid'
>my bathroom scale.
isnt accurate for weighing things less than 80lbs.
>Roughly 1.75lbs.
>That pound is most of an extra mag you could be carrying instead
>empty steel mag weight: 0.95lbs
So did you fail math, or do you always round incorrectly into your favor?
>>29793577
what do you think of the DDI milled AK mr. milled man?
https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/ddi-ak47-milled-detail.html?Itemid=0
>>29793590
jebus fuckin..... you are the dumbfuck DDI lover who always recommends them to newfags in /akg/ over a proven WASR......
Why did I expect someone different?
>>29790239
You should have spent the extra money on a Krebbs or Rifle Dynamics AK. That being said, you bought a good gun.
>>29793590
get a stamped DDI.
>>29790307
This.
>>29790289
You know full well what you bought, and if you came here looking for others to validate your purchase you can kindly fuck off.
>>29790317
>The milled receivers, and particularly the SAM7SF's milled and forged receiver, are much higher quality.
They aren't though- milled was only done before USSR figured out stamping. Once they got Schmeisser to explain the process, presumably with lots of colorful pictures, they dropped milled receivers and never looked back.
Most places that continued to mill AK receivers were those that weren't able to get Russian tooling. They're serviceable, but not really any better.
>>29793106
Wasr barrels are junk and melt after 200 rounds.
>>29793577
Empty steel mags weigh 11.5 ounces.
Also notice you completely overlook the need to replace the barrel of both, which are equally durable. Which means new GB and FSB, headspacing, ect. Hardly a minor procedure.
And, again, nobody except the one full-auto magdump range in Vegas we're both getting our numbers from, even worried about this shit.
You're never gonna shoot out the barrel on your AK, much less wear out the receiver.
And if you can afford to, and are spending that kind of money on guns, you have more than one AK.
It's literally retarded to buy a gun based on the last part you're gonna need to worry about or replace anyway. Especially when a lighter, cheaper version exists.
>>29793106
but WASRs are just park'd
Arsenals are parked and painted
a WASR would not hold up any better to solvent than an Arsenal
>>29793658
THats a funny way to spell PAP/OPAP/NPAP
>>29793658
Pic is an SLR-107FR, not a WASR.
>>29793348
> 1lb of difference does make an actual difference
t. someone who has never fired a gun outside of a range
>>29793640
They never looked back because it was a new cheaper way to churn them out
>>29790239
You did fine OP. Good choice
My SLR107F.
>>29794056
I'm really liking the bakelite furniture. How hard is it to swap out the plastic and put those on? I saw some bakelite mags and furniture for sale online and thought about picking it up.
>AK+Vehicle
>post it ad nauseam
>Can't stop me
>>29790239
No you didn't.
>pencil thin barrel in 7.62x39
>ugly as fuck because of the stock, gas block, and that milled receiver
>milled receiver meme that isn't a classic Type II/III or a Chinese milled gun
Really not that great. Personally I do like the thumb safety and grip though and I wish they came out with that on the SLR rifles instead of that milled abortion.
>>29794114
The Grip and mags are Bakelite but the for grip is Bulgarian wood that has been refinished. That said it is an easy swap to change it out.
>>29794114
That handguard is wood, the pistol grip is bakelite, and it's super easy.
>>29794207
This is truly the AK experience
>>29794240
So bitter
>>29794558
>bitter
Why am I bitter? That I didn't spent a bunch of cash on a meme rifle.
>>29794587
I don't know why you're so bitter, I don't know your life.
>>29794604
Does this look like bitterness to you?
>>29794633
Snip-snap, how will anon possibly counter?
>>29794633
Got it, so its not what you have so its terrible
>>29794710
Apparently with a real fizzler of a retort...
>>29793679
>clearly rust under the paint on the gas block
>>29794307
I miss my cj-5.
>>29790239
Yes. You did good. Pat yourself on the back with audible distinction.
>>29790239
Nice, if you go slav, go classy slav. Love the plum color, adds slav character.
>am considering getting this or "krink" version
>>29790239
It reminds me of an AMD-65
>>29794307
when did drum mags start spawning again?
>>29798505
No sharp edges, better barrel, and better ergos.
But the AMD can be made pretty decent with replaced furniture and a bit of sand-paper.
>>29790258
Hope I'm not late to the party.
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262351
>>29798756
When did they stop?
>>29798788
Not bad at all.
>>29798819
>>29798870
Well done. I like it.
Love mine. Out of the 3 aks I own, this one will never be sold.
>>29791319
I mean, milled reduces felt recoil, so I guess there's that. But yeah, I agree with you.
>>29790239
Is your paint bubbling off of the rust yet?
