http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/09/18/3703319/trump-concealed-carry/
Donald Trump imagines a world where regular citizens can buy automatic weapons; where gun owners can hide their weapons in any state; where there are no expanded background checks for gun purchases; and where citizens fight crime with their own assault rifles.
If Trump gets his way, which gun would you hope to get first?
MP5 unmolested here
OP has good taste, MP-5's are fun to shoot.
As for me, I'd like a new production Thompson in the WW2 configuration.
>>29786708
>Donald Trump imagines a world where regular citizens can buy automatic weapons; where gun owners can hide their weapons in any state; where there are no expanded background checks for gun purchases; and where citizens fight crime with their own assault rifles.
So he's going to do things that will actually get him elected?
10/10, no visa, cant vote. Still buying my cousins vote.
>>29786708
>automatic weapons.
I can't actually find anything in that source that suggests it.
Which is a shame because I would have such a boner if it was confirmed.
>>29786708
A Glock 18 would be fun.
I love the Don. His sons are pretty /k/
>>29786708
American-180
But... .22LR would be nothing but a myth.
>>29786766
>tfw thinking about 500 rounds of .22LR in a pan magazine
>>29786708
Trump doesn't actually believe those things. He just knows what to say to get votes. None of these thing will happen if he's elected.
>>29786751
Full-auto is a trigger for liberals, borderline pornography for patriots, should get support among his demographic voters
I'd love to see a modern US full auto market personally
>>29786787
>Hey guys, I said the thing that can be said about anyone running for president.
>Am I smart yet?
>>29786787
Caesar has to give out the grain he promised the plebiscite or his power will evaporate.
>literally nothing I don't already have.
>would lose the better part of a million bucks if he does.
>I'm voting Hillary to protect my cuckstamps.
>>29786787
Thats right! Where my #Cruzmissiles @?
>>29786810
*Takes money from anti-gun groups*
>>29786799
Hi Alex
>>29786787
that is literally every politician
>>29786799
Take one for the team, cuckboy.
>>29786708N
My nipples are rock hard at the thought of a mp5 that isn't $1500, so one of those please.
EIther that or a Valmet,Galil or daewoo k2.
I want a Browning M1917 like my great grandpappy used to kill Germans
>>29786842
oh shit.....
AA-12? I could have a motherfucking AA-12!!!
>>29786850
Honestly there are semi-auto shotguns that achieve a higher ROF than the AA-12
>>29786853
Recoil dampening seems pretty neat though, aesthetics are nice too
Repealing NFA is probably pretty low on his priority list
>>29786708
I don't think I would bother, honestly.
I'd rather he abolishes all the import and shipping fuckery than revoke the hughes amendment
>>29786882
I could see the import bans desu.
>>29786867
The balanced recoil action it uses fascinates me. I'd love to see if it could be applied to other more high-impulse loads using a longer travel system.
>>29786708
>implying 20 years ago he wasn't completely other side of the aisle
he's pandering for votes
that said, I'm voting for him anyway because hopefully he realizes he needs to just stay true to his word on campaign promises to make a point
>>29786882
>>29786894
Most of the import bans have been done via Executive Order so those are just a few pen strokes away from going poof.
The Hughes amendment would require congress to be on board, and I think they might balk at it if it weren't hidden in something bigger.
>>29786901
I don't think he really cared a whole lot 20 years ago. Can you blame a real estate guy from NY for being misinformed about guns? His sons are /k/. At least he isn't taking money from anti gunners like Cruz
>>29786743
>>29786882
hughes amendment
Agreed, fun switches are great and all, but the potential of new imports would be amazing.
>>29786905
Could run an amnesty period
>>29786918
How much does your vote cost?
>>29786926
I guess it depends on how much you're willing to pay.
>>29786935
$5,600. Very specific number but that is my number there fucking Jose.
Thoughts on his SS? https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/726268337735479296
>>29786926
>you could buy my vote for a crossbow Acog
>I'd use said crossbow Acog to shoot an innocent woodland creature right in front of a liberal's house to make them cry and run to their safe space
>>29786943
I guess $5,599.
>MFW my parents told me not to invest my college fund (going to grad school on a stipend now) in a Fleming sear because "If Trump gets in they might just un-ban them
Damn them, first it was santa claus, now it's Trump!
>>29786955
You're voting Trump anyways.
>>29786951
I would pay you $100k to shoot a Liberal. Seriously, we would go all 'Surviving the Game.'
>>29786993
Top kek.
Daddy's going to build a wall.
I hope Trump sticks to his word about 2a in the debates for the general. That way he loses with dignity that he stuck to his guns as the old adage goes.
We all know who the most 2a candidate was though.
>f
>>29786708
AA-12 all the way BB
>>29787001
>that backwards front sight
MP5-SD
>>29787021
I think he does care, especially with his sons probably bringing shit up with him about it, but It's really not his first priority. TbH I'd rather have the wall built first too
>>29786993
As tempting as that is, it's more fun to shoot critters with my fuddy-06 more or less right off his porch, because fuck looking at where the property lines are before dropping your house.
>OMG you just blew that poor raccoon to pieces I hope you feel like a man now
>Hell yea I do, that was pretty cool, wasn't it
>>29787021
BASED RAND
Maybe one day.
>>29787053
He's never gonna get anywhere near the President. He doesn't have the money
>>29786708
how has society changed since the days you could mail order hmg and lmg as well as light artillery with no background check ?
>>29786708
Haven't put much thought into buying something full auto. If that market actually opened up it'd be like Christmas times 100 though.
>>29786708
Unmolested FALs
>>29787014
I would put forward $10m just to see it built.
>>29786708
>>29787021
>mfw his less than 5%
>>29787021
I miss Rand
>>29786787
You dare doubt the WORD of Trump(PBUH)?
>>29787014
>>29786708
Is this really true, or is it likely BULLSHIT?
>>29786708
Glock 18 since they're only like 450 and I can actually afford that. Even if the mp5 became legal I'd need to sell my car to get one
>>29787081
That gets my dick hard knowing some lucky fuck bought a ptrs for $100
>>29787220
For a $2000 gun if the registry was reopened?
>>29787131
>caring about poll numbers
>ignoring the best gun policy we've seen in years because popular opinion
Kill yourself. JUST DO IT.
>>29786708
Thirty round mags and taking my fucking bullet button off. That would make me happy as a clam.
Oh...constitutional carry in all fifty states. Concealed and open. Open for when I'm expecting trouble. Concealed for my Sunday-go-to-meetin's
>>29787260
If I was gonna go crazy:
>Saiga with drum
>SBRs till I was buried in them
>extendo mags so I could shoot for a week and reload on Sunday
>>29787064
That's always so depressing to me.
I'd rather have him than the two authoritarians in running now.
>>29787142
Seriously though. I get the feeling that he would have given America our second Camelot period before the darkness fell. Sure it wouldn't have been perfect but shut man, at least we would have had a politician who was actually trying.
He just spent too much time doing his day jobs (pushing bills, surgeries, shaking the cage on Capitol Hill) and didn't make enough of a fuss at the debates. Though if you watch the footage he constantly had this face on that screamed:
>these dumb divisive motherfuckers are gonna hand it to the Democrats cause they can't stop bickering.
>Fuck these faggots, I got work to do.
Trump owns HK
good taste to be honest family
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW8R5gxuPtk
>>29787244
Yeah I'm still in college and I'm in debt more than I've got in the bank. Not by much though I can't widly spend thousands on a gun with a gun switch even if I really want to.
>>29787309
His loyalty to 2a, and his job in the senate auditing the fed and fighting authoritarianism, robbed him of the presidency but gave back to his constituents.
Anyways, in a Rand Paul presidency the first thing I'd buy is a genuine Colt M16A1.
Then I wouldn't have to role play with my friend's Bushmaster ORC with a sear so worn it's a multi-shot burst (2, 3, sometimes 4 or 5)
>>29787331
Fun switch*
I want some liberal wannabe assassin to attack Trump. I want the secret service to falter for a bit and let the guy through for just a moment.
I want to see what Trump is packin and what he uses to put the assassin down. The sales of that handgun and caliber would probably go through the roof for the rest of the year.
>>29787375
>The sales of that handgun and caliber would probably go through the roof for the next 4 years
FTFY
>>29787031
Doesn't really matter which way it faces. Also, it can't fold when facing the other way because of the handguard
Here's the real thing;
>MBUS on a railed gas block
>>29787276
>ATF HQ burns to the ground
>>29786731
Correction, he's going to _promise_ things that will actually get him elected. Just like almost all others before him.
I'd by a truck loaded with full baka Norinco M14s and do donuts with it in SA's parking lot.
>>29786708
Can Trump get any better? I love this man.
>>29787142
Anyone knows the source of the mangoo?
>>29787469
I feel like the Donald may go all the way. He'd be out first president since the founding that hadn't held political office before taking over the presidency and had no interest in an ongoing political career after leaving office.
>>29786763
His sons are man-crush level /k/.
>long range shooter
>reloads over 100 calibers
https://youtu.be/1IqfRbjcpDY?t=1234 [Embed] @20:35
>>29786708
>Donald Trump imagines a world where regular citizens can buy automatic weapons; where gun owners can hide their weapons in any state; where there are no expanded background checks for gun purchases; and where citizens fight crime with their own assault rifles.
If this were true, I'd be stumping for Trump like you wouldn't believe. I don't think it's actually on the agenda, but he's still better than Hillary, and pisses off all the right people. So.
I'd probably go for a MG3.
Wanted one ever since I saw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTwkM7gpx5E.
>>29786905
Oh baby.
>>29789670
trve
>>29787375
He's already said what he carries. It's like a .38 special s&w magnum or something like that
>>29789769
okay Abu Hajaar
Wow didn't realize /k/ was so ignorant when it came to politics.
Trump? You know the guy has been associated with pyramid schemes and makes shit up as he goes along?
The guy switched every one of his views a year ago cause he knew he could prey on the anti establishment feelings of people that were so shallow they could see past his immense BS.
>>29789769
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights
>GUN AND MAGAZINE BANS. Gun and magazine bans are a total failure. That’s been proven every time it’s been tried. Opponents of gun rights try to come up with scary sounding phrases like “assault weapons”, “military-style weapons” and “high capacity magazines” to confuse people. What they’re really talking about are popular semi-automatic rifles and standard magazines that are owned by tens of millions of Americans.
>Law-abiding people should be allowed to own the firearm of their choice. The government has no business dictating what types of firearms good, honest people are allowed to own.
What is important to take out of his policy statement isn't what he is going to do, but the level of knowledge that he has about the topic. Telling us the correct and practical reasons -why- the 2nd Amendment should be upheld is much more indicative of what he will being doing in office.
>>29789869
Shillarybots are here.
>>29789912
Yeah, I know he's said it, I just don't trust that he's actually going to carry it out if (when?) he gets the presidency. You make a good point, though.
>>29789922
Its the butthurt bernie cucks.
>>29786901
Everyone was pro gun control 20 years ago. There was I bipartisan consensus. They evaporated in the early 2000's when the Republican party took up gun rights and the left shut up about what was seen as a losing issue until Sandy Hook.
>>29789777
one article said that he mentioned he carried an HK
>>29786708
Would he let me kill people?
>>29787469
He is in the Republican party and considering they hold both houses and the party itself is pro-gun a lot of progress is most likely to be made
>>29790012
>and the party itself is pro-gun
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
oh that was a funny one.
>>29789930
He will have to do it because no other candidate in history has been nominated under such pressure for change. Droves of people are coming out and voting for their first time because of the things that he is promising.
That wall will be built or he's going to get dragged out of the White House by force, as with every other sweeping change he is asking for. Even if he has to soften those positions in order for the deal to be workable, the general idea has to make it through. He really doesn't have a choice.
Not that he is planning to renege on the wall; supposedly there are already plans made by his staff to build a rail line on top of or beside it so that it serves double duty as a coast-to-coast mass transport route. He's a real estate guy, so I trust that he knows how to make things pay for themselves.
>>29790104
>That wall will be built or he's going to get dragged out of the White House by force, as with every other sweeping change he is asking for.
Yeah because it's not like every president ever had made outlandish bullshit promises....
>>29790131
The difference is Republicans are hasguns while Democrats are noguns.
Autosears for EVERYTHING
Please god-emperor Trump
>>29787143
When I first saw the thumbnail I thought that was an armored Trump facing a colossal titan version of Hillary.
>>29787276
*pets my saiga with 20rd drum* not that 35rd mag because that shit is rediculously expensive.
>>29787081
>All that firepower
Holy fuck, what year was that from?
You've surprised me, /k/ommandos. Several months ago at the beginning, most of all in threads like these were anti trump and endorsement of a different candidate. What caused the change of plans?
>>29790703
Randlet got bumped and Don Jr reveled his power levels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IqfRbjcpDY
>>29786901
Do you believe the same things now as you did 20 years ago?
>>29790725
He probably hasn't been around for 20 years
>only choices are man who I don't agree entirely with, bald man who wants to take my guns and my money, and bald woman who wants to put on a black robe, yellow glowing contacts, and electrocute her opponents with her mind
whelp, can't stump the trump i guess, at least he doesn't look like he wants to take my guns
>>29790725
Not him, but I do.
But, then, I grew up believing in the Constitution and the concept of individual rights and responsibilities.
>>29790703
They've all drunk the Trump kool-aid. /pol/ is going at it daily with propaganda and they can't see that it is THEM who are being stumped.
Seriously, if you want a true pro-2nd Amendment candidate, you have to go for a true constitutionalist candidate. And like him or not, the only constitutionalist candidate left in the primary is Ted Cruz.
We don't need another massive ego in the White House who'll protect the 2nd Amendment with the power of his swinging dick. Because what happens when he leaves office? The next massive ego may not feel the same way about firearms and go after the 2nd Amendment with his swinging dick. (ala Obama)
Ted Cruz will defend the 2nd Amendment not by the power of his ego or his willpower in coercing government officials. He'll do it by simply reading the Constitution and enforcing it with the powers given to the Executive Branch. It will be a great move in this country towards rebuilding a culture that actually cares for and respects the Constitution.
>>29790953 has it right.
>actually thinking trump gives a single fuck about you let alone guns
>trusting a buisiness person on shit like this
Opportunist at best, fuck off /pol/
>>29791528
There aren't enough delegates left for Cruz to win.
>>29791564
>actually thinking any other candidate gives more of a fuck than Trump about guns
>trusting even more crooked politicians on shit like this
>>29791528
Cruz might be more ideal but he'd never get elected. America is too liberal for him; best we can do is hope Trump-o is as conservative as he claims to be.
>>29791794
Cruz literally can't get enough delegates to win. There aren't enough left for him to get the nomination and the RNC said they'll put Romney up if it comes to a brokered convention. I'm not shilling for Trump but he's the only Republican with enough delegates to mathematically have a chance to win the nomination.
>>29786787
>>29791794
>America is too liberal for him;
The real problem with cruz is that he's an unlikeable reptile in human skin.
>>29786989
I want her
>>29786905
I am wary of the import bans. Lots of gun companies here will go out of business due to cheap china shit.
Don't give me that performance bullshit. Most people buy on price alone. Why buy a $1000 gun when I could by 20 $50 guns? That worries me.
Maybe I am biased because I work for a manufacturer, but I want a measured approach to removing those.
Remove the Hughes amendment, 922r, and that bullshit sporting clause that makes it impossible to get HK guns unmolested.
>>29787247
>chick lean
>EOkek
>not even an OD AUG
low energy/10
>>29791861
I'm afraid this is the case. I plan on voting Trump only so it's another vote against Hitlery. God save us if that demon makes it in. I don't even agree with Trump, but he's our best chance at having a nondystopian America.
>>29786955
Fuck off
>>29792189
I prefer Trump over the other options in this shit show of an election. I just didn't want my preference to be mistaken for bias in the other comment I made.
>>29791528
Ted Cruz will literally say whatever you want about guns or gun control if you pay him enough
No one likes him, almost as much as Trump
>>29786943
i live in a swing state and im an undecided voter buy my vote pls
>>29786708
Glock 18
>>29791528
Ted Cruz is a lying rat bastard. EVERY time I hear him speak, he tells an outright, bald-face lie. EVERY TIME. He cannot be trusted with the presidency.
On top of that, he's a fucking Canacuck, he's not even eligible to be president.
>Imply that anti-gunners are forever, and that just because the 1994 AWB was 22 years ago that he'll be different now
>Vote him into office
>"WTF anons he made a deal with democrats and now I have a federally mandated wait period!"
>>29786850
Or you could drop a sear in a saiga 12, which is a much better gun.
>>29786871
That doesn't matter, if we can keep congress red and get the Don as president we can shove all the pro gun bills through that we want.
>>29792485
if obongo was eligible
then so is rafael
>>29792577
>listens to extremely credible man that cannot be wrong on internet
>votes Hillary instead because any other vote than Trump is for a liberal ticket
>WTF anons my guns are gone, but at least Jamal and Jose have plenty of welfare and illegal weapons.
>>29790725
I wasn't alive 20 year ago.
>>29791528
> 50 cents has been deposited to your account
>>29791528
That's it. Trump has been stumped.
I'm now a #RatMissile.
>>29786796
This is the unfortunate truth. Democracy is a sham. In no other industry do people put up with so much constant bait-and-switch.
The only candidate to even come close to trusting is the one that is for the unregulated private ownership of CBRN weapons. Someone with the balls to say that is likely a hardline ideologue, and ideologues are typically consistent, if nothing else. You won't find that kind of candidate anywhere, though.
>>29789670
>he's a .22lr hoarder
>muh trigger discipline meme
dropped. now stumping for hilary
>>29789912
i bet his two kids wrote that
AKM, probably an underfolder, restored to full fun glory
>>29787469
Donald is not chained by the shackles of ownership by special interest and other high net worth individuals. He will have to work with the bureaucracy, but I feel he will give this a go.
>>29791528
>Cruz
>A literal prostitute
>Constitutionalism
Kek, Canada doesn't even have a constitution but a Charter of Rights.
>>29791564
>Not trusting a guy whose own family has rabid gun collectors
>Not trusting a billionaire who will not yield for having donations held above his head.
>>29793449
Democracy is not a sham
It's the absolute worst form of government, thats all
>>29786708
Browning M2
>>29793722
worst is pushing it, but government as a whole ignores the human equation. that's why minimal gov't interference is the most stable of all
>>29793775
Government is in fact absolutely essential to the longevity & health of the Nation
Universal suffrage democracy will inevitably create a kleptocracy run by incompetents & subversives.
Doesn't help that the dominant modern narrative is essentially treasonous in nature.
>>29786708
Life goal is to shoot an uzi out the window while doing donuts
So an Uzi
>>29786708
multiple m16 lowers
>>29786708
>If Trump gets his way, which gun would you hope to get first?
He won't.
>>29793724
yeah but those are expensive to feed and you have to mount them to a truck or something.
I'd get a SAW or a 240B.
>>29791528
Mexicans don't give a shit about the Constitution and will happily vote it all away if they become a majority. If you want to protect the Constitution, you have to build the wall.
>>29793882
life goal to eat donuts while shooting out windows with Uzi
>>29793935
I'd probably do that too
>>29789457
>>29793571
People believe this every single election. People believe that if only the right person gets elected it will all get better. We've been through this every four years for five decades now.
Trump's espoused policy's, when he does get down to specifics, are the exact opposite of his views ten years ago. He may be a republican candidate but he's been a democrat for most of his life.
The president is under no obligation to fulfill his campaign promises, and even if he was a flawlessly honest president who spent every hour working to unwind terrible laws he's just one person. What ails the United States is not a dozen successive incompetent presidents, it is a system of errors that is much larger and dispersed than any single office.
If you're going to put your hopes in Trump, at least ask yourself: If Trump fails to live up to the hype, at what point am I willing to say that enough is enough? How many presidents after Trump will I have to go through before I stop having faith presidential elections can solve our problems?
>>29794082
>are the exact opposite of his views ten years ago. He may be a republican candidate but he's been a democrat for most of his life.
Why do you lie?
>>29794082
>but he's been a democrat for most of his life.
What are you talking about? He endorsed Mitt Romney in 2012.
>>29794276
Romney is a RINO though.
>>29794194
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/aug/24/jeb-bush/bush-says-trump-was-democrat-longer-republican-las/
http://archive.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/blogs/hilary-sargent/2014/01/22/the-man-responsible-for-donald-trump-never-ending-presidential-campaign/95LunCt63n3xKoq5DyJNFI/blog.html
Trump has regularly said that he has a broad range of political positions. "I identify with some things as a Democrat," he told MSNBC in July. He had told CNN the same thing back in 2004. He’s also expressed interest in running as a third-party candidate.
According to the New York City Board of Elections, Trump has changed his party affiliation five times since registering as a Republican in Manhattan in 1987. A form that year notes he had previously been registered in the Jamaica Estates neighborhood of Queens, where he grew up, but his prior affiliation was not identified.
"I was from an area that was all Democrat," Trump said. "And, frankly, over the years, I have — and especially as I have gotten more and more involved — I have evolved."
>>29794306
>http://www.politifact.com
You chose one of the least reliable and most biased sources possible completely discrediting yourself in your own opening statement. You are a fool and we feel no pity for your ignorance, good day to you.
>>29787081
>how has society changed since the days you could mail order hmg and lmg as well as light artillery with no background check ?
Well violent crime is on a steady decline.
And there's the internet.
>>29794559
>Well violent crime is on a steady decline.
So is the job market.
>>29786751
he says something like "the government has no right to say what kind of guns people can have"
>>29786708
Anti Micky D's rifle
>>29786867
>aesthetics
its a fucking nerf gun
>>29793890
>If
ok
>>29790012
Trump is in the Republican party because he wouldn't get elected in any other party.
I was a Sanders fan, but since he's pretty much guaranteed to lose at this point, Trump is the best for me personally. Hillary would be absolutely fucking horrible, and I like the things Trump is promising a lot more than her. Even the negative aspects of his presidency wont really effect me, and I believed a wall should be built well before he came along.
I don't appreciate that he wants to violate the constitution to block the mudslimes, but it doesn't really effect me.
If he's promising guns, a wall, and action against China, I'm all for it.
>>29794650
so what you're sayin is we need to hire people to commit more violent crime?
>>29794811
>I don't appreciate that he wants to violate the constitution to block the mudslimes, but it doesn't really effect me.
trust me, it won't happen. no matter how much lolbertarians want it to, it's legally impossible
>>29794841
>>29794811
>These dumbshits who think America is constitutionally required to accept shitskin/muslim immigrants
>>29786708
>Goes from supporting the Assault weapon ban to being pro 2A
>right around 2012
>The same time his republican ambitions began
Merely a coincidence
>>29794811
>I don't appreciate that he wants to violate the constitution to block the mudslimes
Did it bother you when Obama did it in 2011?
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/11/hypocrite_obama_ordered_a_6month_pause_in_processing_muslim_refugees_in_2011.html
>>29794823
>so what you're sayin is we need to hire people to commit more violent crime?
>>29794990
I wonder if it bothered him when Jimmy Carter did it as well.
>>29795079
My point was that there is a precedent for it happening before. I appreciate you helping to prove my point and I say that without sarcasm.
>>29790703
What? Trump's been supported by /k/ from the beginning.
>>29790185
>an armored Trump facing a colossal titan version of Hillary
This needs to be a thing.
>>29787014
>Daddys going to build a wall
Milo pls marry me
>>29795444
>>29795444
>>29786810
rat detected - rat detected - rat detected
>>29795586
Is that natalia in the back?
>>29792138
That's why hi-point has market dominance, amirite?
Go peddle bullshit somewhere else
>>29792138
That's why hi-point has market dominance, amirite?
Go peddle bullshit somewhere else
>HURR DURR HITLER WILL SAVE OUR GUNS FOR US WHITE BOYZ
>>>/pol/
>>29795586
Yes!
https://youtu.be/i_T9lmapvDw
>>29786787
Retard.
>>29786773
The biggest magazines I know of have a capacity of 275 though.
Pic related, mine. Sadly I only have one 180-round magazine with two spring boxes for it. It's open bolt though, so converting it to FA would be easy.
>>29786799
SHOULD HAVE INVESTED IN SOMETHING ELSE COCKSUCKER. YOU'RE ON THE SAME LEVEL AS A FUDD. FAGGOT
>>29794082
> the "he's been a democrat for most of his life." meme again
Show me proof.
>>29794841
>legally impossible
>thinks he knows the Constitution
>doesn't know this has happened before
>>29786901
Less than 10 years ago he was a Democrat.
He was also pro salt-weapon ban and pro waiting periods.
He only changed his tune when he decided there was an opportunity in the GOP because of internal strife.
