First the Russians tested one successfully last week and now the chinks have tested one as well. Americans still can't figure this shit out (I blame it on the low IQ of the population but that's another story for another thread).
Anyway, Bill Gertz (who else?) has the goods. Gertz is really tight with Pentagon.
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-successfully-tests-hypersonic-missile/
>>29758895
>tries using shitty memes to deflect the facts
are you 12? this site is for people 18+ if you didn't know. go back to club penguin, kiddo.
>>29758885
I'm just curious why is this even practical?... There's so many better weapons we have in our arsenal compared to this gook shit trash
>>29758993
It's useful to the US for the global strike initiative. basically be want to be able to hit any raghead on earth in an hour
for the chinks its a ballistic missile that can't be intercepted. At least I don't think it can. Maybe at the boost phase.
think guam
>>29758885
I'm pretty sure we have been testing them for the past couple years. Our government is better at keeping a secret and not showing all of our cards to prove we are not a 3rd world shit hole.
>>29758993
Its not.
>>29758885
Already had this thread, and it was better bait.
>>29759070
>Our government is better at keeping a secret and not showing all of our cards to prove we are not a 3rd world shit hole.
Actually your government is the only one doing exactly the opposite.
>>29758885
We don't need hypersonic missiles. Gooks cannot into lasers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmkYcEcSLvA
>hurhuhur we'rr show those lounds eyes
>oul new hypel sanic and anti ship conventionar weapons wirr make a gleat firlst stlike.
>what do you mean thele ale thousands of amelican nukes coming in befole we can fuer up oul nukes?
Anyone know where I can find more info on >>29712396?
Know the project itself probably went dark but there are probably some patents showing up somewhere.
>>29758885
>First the Russians tested one successfully last week and now the chinks have tested one as well.
It's already China's seventh test so far, and the sixth successful one.
I'd say that in terms of development ranking:
China >> Russia (at least one successful) >>>>> USA (none successful)
USAF agreed,
http://www.airforcemag.com/DRArchive/Pages/2016/March%202016/March%2011%202016/Who%E2%80%99s-Ahead-in-Hypersonics.aspx
When shit hits the fan, China would share their tech with the Russians to get their HGV online as well, so that both can double-team against the US imperialists.
>>29758885
Merica (and the rest of the West) is more concerned with having a diverse team of rocket scientists than it is with actually doing rocket science. We will never set foot on another celestial body again, but did you hear the president of NASA is a black woman?! Ohhhh take that white men!!! 2016!
>>29759880
Every nation develops the weapons it can afford, when it needs them, to counter the threats it faces.
The US stuck with the Harpoon AShM for over thirty years, because it took that long for any other Navy to deploy a defense system that required something better than a Harpoon. And as soon as that happened, the US promptly developed a new generation of AShMs to deal counter it.
The Soviets, meanwhile, had to keep upgrading their AShMs to keep up with USN AD. And in the same period the US itself kept innovating and upgrading its AD systems.
Same thing here. There's no reason to think the US cannot into hypersonics. In fact the US has prototyped several such systems over the years. They've just never thrown real money at hypersonics because they haven't yet met an enemy worthy of such a weapon.
Clearly, the Chinese have met such an enemy. And the day the Chinese become such an enemy, it's certain that the US will have the weapons to fight them.
CHINA
CHINA
CHINA
ps: who did chinks steal this tech from? ruskies? they clearly can't do shit on their own.
>>29759880
Umm, if I get this correctly the US tested a self propelled hypersonic vehicle while the others tested only glide vehicles?
What's the advantage of a distinct hypersonic glide vehicle over almost 50 year old MIRV technology?
>>29758993
it renders missile shield useless. that's why.
also, they will be used for AShMs. All of the CSGs are sitting ducks for these thing since they are impossible to stop.
>>29759351
>lasers against Mach 6+ missiles that have thermal coatings...
>>29758885
We've had this thread a million times. It's a bait thread, it's always a bait thread.
>>29760318
Missile shields are already useless against ballistic missiles. Especially the nuclear intercontinental kind. The hypersonic is a worthless replacement as a nuclear weapon but does have some merit as a conventional weapon
>>29760355
Oppenheimer chimed in last time and sometimes there's some decent discussion on hypersonic use and development.
>>29758885
Ill bite. We can defend against stuff like this with large mass drivers such as railguns that can shoot jets out of the sky it's just a manner of cost effectiveness and power consumption.
>>29760332
>Mach 6+
Approximate Speed of Light: Mach 874,030
>thermal coating
Stronger lasers.
Get out, Gook.
China and Russia are years behind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-51
>>29761448
We gots laserz?
USAF Space Command has been working on other avenues of defense. Definitely behind on this- but working on something a bit faster.
>>29760318
anyone have the screencap of that great rant that went along the lines of:
>Everyone always talking about sinking a us carrier
>US has tons of carriers
>US can make tons more carriers
>Sinking a US carrier is symbolic
>Building twenty more is more symbolic
>>29760318
>wonder why the navy was racing towards railguns
>OPpenheimer drops this http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a345781.pdf
>future naval engagements will take in hyperspeed
Glorious.
>>29761476
Here's a simple equation to answer if the US military has something. Can you or a private company own something (lasers, rockets, etc.)? If yes then the US. Military has a far superior version.
>>29758962
Nigger, the US tested hypersonic vehicles fucking years ago. Go hang yourself deep in the woods.
>>29760318
But childishly easy to dodge. It's a glider, so every maneuver it makes costs range and speed.
So do ultra-nationalist chinese have nothing better to do than brag about technology we tested six years ago?
>>29761727
>But childishly easy to dodge
dodging something flying at Mach 6.
AHAHAHAHAH
>>29762336
the ones that disintegrated in mid-flight?
>>29762411
Not so hard considering the distances involved. Consider that even accelerating to mach 6 is going to take a minute or two a carrier could easily turn ninety degrees and push to full throttle before the warhead hits.
Come to think of it, Mach 6 is pretty slow for ICBMs which re-enter the atmosphere at something like mach 23.
>>29760318
>All of the CSGs are sitting ducks
>All
well done
+3.25 Yuan
>>29760277
Russians fucking sucks at this sort of tech themselves. Pic related.
Admit it. Hypersonics are a Chinese staple.
After all, they have the world's largest hypersonic wind-tunnel.
>>29758885
the US got this shit down in 2014 and did a launch, it failed, then went dark.
it's probably almost done by now.
just because they launched doesn't mean anything - it just means it works, doesn't mean it can go all the way.
it's at the spruce goose stage.
cool, it worked.
can it do it again? will it always work?
I doubt it.
go back to eating dogs.
>>29762749
SIX SUCCESSFUL TESTS
WITH
EXTREME (I mean really fucking extreme) MANEUVERS
VS
NONE
America is pretty much BTFO.
>>29762815
so you have what, one weapon system that gives you an advantage over the US, and that is a precarious situation full of heresy?
take your autism elsewhere.
>>29758885
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaurya_%28missile%29
India has had an endo-atmospheric, Hypersonic Missile since 2011, and it is already inducted into service.
What exactly is the big deal about Hypersonics? This seems like old technology.
>>29761037
We can defend against it simply by maneuvering. It's unpowered, so every maneuver it has to make costs speed and altitude that can't be regained.
>>29762944
>This seems like old technology
It really is. Chinks are just retarded and being paid to post, part of the $.50 army. There is nothing impressive about this in the slightest, and as you have shone Hypersonic Missiles are easily doable by any country that really wants them.
Hypersonic is just a missile at Mach +5. More propellant, less payload. Boom.
The X-43 flew more then a decade ago, go die in a fire OP.
>>29763106
>shone
opinion discarded
>>29759430
Terrible engrish. 0/10
You could have not tried and done better than that
>>29763150
>$.50 has been deposited into your account.
>>29760332
>thinking thermal expansion isn't the primary use of lasers
>thinking thermal coating is immune to this
Hey guys, the US cannot hypersonic herp derp
>>29762944
Wait, so India is actually ahead of Russia, China, and US for inducting non-terminal stage Hypersonic missiles?
That can't be right.
>>29760358
Oh but you couldn't be more wrong.
>>29758885
Daly reminder china is beating US as global power
in decade we have more strength then entire combined of NATO
>>29763216
For what purpose do you even?
>>29763216
Better pull it out while they're still paying
>>29762411
>dodging something flying at Mach 6.
Easy. CSG gets notification within 90 secons of launch, turns toward the launch site. It's an unpowered projectile, every maneuver you force it to make costs it velocity that it can't regain. Another way is to launch an interceptor to force it to maneuver. It loses speed every time it turns. That translates into shorter range, higher probability of being intercepted, less chance of hitting the target, and less damage if it does hit.
It's not some silver bullet, it's just another way of making expensive splashes in the ocean. It's the wrong system for countering carriers. It would be better suited to interdicting static targets.
>>29763254
>>29763250
Cannot handle chinese superiority in missile, radar, and military technologies
clearly hanging on to once great american military now full of homosexuals, crossdressers, and drug addict. Led by negro in suit.
>>29762815
>>29762411
>being able to turn at 1.25 miles per second in more than 1 degree intervals
>>29762944
>>29763200
>endo-atmospheric
>Hypersonic
>Literally every single ICBM since V2 rockets
so, Hypersonic flight is super impressive, inside the atmosphere. you leave it and your dealing with ICBM kinda stuff that we have had since the 40s some 70 years ago.
the difference is the fucking atmosphere, try again india
>>29763297
Are you literally saving those on your hard drive?
>>29763332
What do you mean hard drive?
>>29763297
So what's the PLAN plan for getting butt fucked by A,erican nuclear submarines that will assblast Three Gorges, toss tomahawks at rail yards like a Navajo warrior, and start sinking oil tankers?
>>29763343
Ah yes image must strike close to home marine
I am so sorry hahaha
Incompetent military very sad but you cannot choose where you are born
>>29763216
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>>29763386
>selling it with the broken english
>>29763200
More like the US and Russia looked into super sonic gliders during the cold war and figured ICBMs are better and discarded the tech and now the new kids on the block (India and China) think they can get an edge by perfecting tech that the cold war powers rejected.
More dick waving contests but a good chunk of politics is basically that.
>>29763323
>the difference is the fucking atmosphere
You realize that it is endo-atmospheric for its entire flight, right? It doesn't leave the atmosphere at all.
There is nothing remotely impressive about Hypersonic Missiles. Lazers are far more impressive and cutting-edge.
>>29763396
Does he get fen deducted for that slip about NATO?
>That's right
>More powerful than even Holland
>Fear us
>>29763452
Is america not part of NATO now?
America and all of NATO is less of a threat then the Chinese
![Screen+Shot+2012-12-13+at+3.53.21+PM[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/sKzNNYf.png "Screen+Shot+2012-12-13+at+3.53.21+PM[1].png")
>>29763336
This is the real deal, folks.
>>29763297
China is communist. You know how badly communism deals with technological progress.
>>29763399
>broken english
are you upset? must hit too close to home hahaha
you need to accept your nation is falling behind
>>29763513
The proof is in the evidence
>>29763405
But they have ICBMs as well?
The reality is that these sorts of exotic missiles are purely for deterrence, and will never be used outside of MAD.
Railguns and Lazers have actual conventional applications and could even reduce the cost of and radically change conventional warfare.
America has only ever fought poor rice farmers and angry goat herders in the past 70 years. I doubt that is going to change anytime soon.
>>29762944
Is this the part where someone memes about designated shitting streets?
>people not considering scalability
think about it this way. you fire this thing from a ship at low altitude to hit a target a hundred miles away. it reaches max speed instantly due to a railgun launch. now what?
>>29763520
ok
>>29761643
>superior version
>at the lowest price point available
>at the lowest price point available and money under the table
>superior version
>>29763533
Pretty much.
>Hypersonic
Check
>Endo-atmospheric (within the atmosphere)
Check
>Terminal stage hypersonic maneuvers
Check
As far as I can tell it delivers all the 'advanced' features of next-generation Hypersonic missiles, but 5 years ago in 2011.
>>29763297
This from the nation that needs an assembly line to produce a good football team.
How's the world cup factory going comrade?
>>29758885
see: >>29762944
Nothing to see here folks. Just outdated 70s era technology being brought back and overhyped by paid Chink trolls.
>>29763386
You gonna look pretty funny getting ass raped by a transexual marine, Wang.
>>29758885
>Americans still can't figure this shit out
Sorry Chairman Slow; but we figured that shit out in the 1980s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_%28aircraft%29
Honestly we shouldn't allow you Chink government shills on our interwebs.
Honestly
>>29763726
>There is no substantial evidence that it was ever built or flown and it has been termed a myth.
Uhhhhhhhhhhh
>>29763106
>.50 cent army
You talking about G Unit?
>>29758885
> Rocketry enters the world.
> Oh look, the US has god-tier rocketry
> Stealth enters the world
> Oh look, the US has god-tier stealth
> Nuclear power enters the world
> Oh look, the US has god-tier nuclear powered naval vessels
> Hypersonics enter the world
> b-but the US cannot into hypersonics desu senpai
My fucking sides.
>>29763751
The SR-71 was a myth for 30 years dude.
If you're letting out evidence for your top secret aircraft then you're fucking up.
>The Chinese have used spears in every war they've ever been in.
>>29763470
How when China has no power projection?
>>29759880
>It's already China's seventh test so far, and the sixth successful one.
China is probably cheating and exaggerating as usual. They cheat even in foreign countries, imagine inside their own country where media is government controlled.
>>29763175
>made up words and can't speak english
>shone
buy a dictionary and use it
>>29764491
>made up word
>not incorrect word usage
shone1.
[SHōn]
DEFINITION
1.past and past participle of shine
Nice try ricenigger
>only mach 5-10
YAWN. Meanwhile US gliders go mach 20, truly pushing the envelope.
WU-14 is just SM-3 IIA bait. SM-6 bait if it makes it past.
>>29760090
Basically what he's saying is China's defense is shit. So we have no need for that platform. Our tech is so badass they need to waste money on shit like this that will probably never work as advertised as with most chineese shit ever made. America has tested alot of hypersonic vehicles, but we don't need to weapon ie them yet.
>>29763579
> lowest price point meme
Gee bill if can you make this 7 billion dollar weapon for 6 billion and we will take 10.
>>29763520
>The proof is in the evidence
The evidence is actually against China. The Space Shuttle was a super sonic glider during reentry and was under more technical constraints since it had to keep the crew alive.
>>29763530
There is the question of what would happen if the star wars program ever got off the ground. Without nuclear deterrence it's entirely possible that all out warfare between world powers will be a thing again.
>>29763216
And an epidemic of lung cancer. .50 cents probably won't cover the bills for that though
>>29763216
>No longer the manufacturing base for America
>stronger than NATO!
>>29764011
Even South Korea and Vietnam?
>>29762716
>Pic related.
Nice sources you got there.
>>29758885
>secret weapon
>tell everyone
ok
>>29758885
>USA cannot unto hypermissile! Hypermissile is future! Hypermissile is grorious Chinese PLA hammer to crush imperiarists!
>carriers, lasers, MIRVs, railguns, logistics, stealth fighters, democracy, and even fucking NCOs are unimportant, which is why we don't into them!
>only things we say matter!
This is you. Fucking chinky slants.
>>29758885
China steals shit to make things. We know this.
What I can't wait for is when we go full cold war and start intentionally fucking up stuff so they cause massive Chinese failures.
Similar to how the CIA fucked with oil pipeline code to intentionally cause a multi-kiloton explosive failure in a Russian pipeline.
>>29768953
Wait what they don't have NCOs?
>>29764531
>that pic
Fucking chings
I SERIOUSLY HOPE YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THESE THREADS ARE STARTED BY CHINAMEN PAID TO SPREAD PROPAGANDA TO SOCIAL MEDIA AND THAT IF YOU DONT SAGE YOU SHOULD KILLYOURSELF
>>29769021
Not in a western sense.
In US-centric forces like South Korea, Europe, and America, obviously, NCOs are there to execute plans devised by the officers and be the bulwark for the morale of the men under them. They are essentially interpret the orders given to them and accomplish the objective the best way possible with their known resources. That are good at this.
Chinese NCOs are basically yes men for the officer corps. Little more than commissars or political officers. They are the eyes and ears of the officers, there to make sure nobody steps out of line, and to beat them into submission when they do.
The American NCO corps is a relatively new idea, but has proven absolutely key in basically every conflict since WWI, which makes sense as it became the norm to offload some responsibility of officers onto senior enlisted with the mass casualties sustained during the period, with large numbers of, usually difficult to replace noble, officers being killed.
Look at Saudi Arabia, they're fighting fucking Houthis with the same tech America has and are still getting fucking shrekt. They also aren't waging a "limited war" like the US is either. They are legitimately being bogged down by fucking desert hobos. It's because they have no real NCO corps and their officer corps is based on how much royal Saudi blood you have.
Same reason why Iraqis ran from ISIS. Politicians purged a large amount of American trained Iraqi NCOs and never bothered to adopt the model as a whole.
Friendly reminder to you stupid shill-posting .50 center yellow commie fuckbags: google SLAM missile from Project Orion. It's faster, non orbital and elventy million times scarier.
We can just dust off the prototypes and fire up production.
>>29761727
Fuckin told you Gliders were awesome.
>>29761597
>http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a345781.pdf
Dick is rock hard.
>>29771531
Man, sea battles would be incredibly boring, just fire off a slavo of hypersonic rail projectiles at a target you can't even see on the horizon. Hell by the time all this gets on ships it'll probably be part of an automatic missile shield so operators probably won't even need to do anything but maintenance.
Future war is awesome but boring.
